Welcome, Guest: Register On Nairaland / LOGIN! / Trending / Recent / NewStats: 3,195,572 members, 7,958,768 topics. Date: Wednesday, 25 September 2024 at 11:14 PM |
Nairaland Forum / Nairaland / General / Religion / Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges (34400 Views)
I Wish God Would Do To Atheists As He Did To Egypt! / David Kingleo Elijah: Going To China To 'Destroy Coronavirus' – Nigerian Prophet / Global Study: Atheists In Massive Decline, Only 1.8% Of World Population By 2020 (2) (3) (4)
(1) (2) (3) ... (16) (17) (18) (19) (20) (21) (Reply) (Go Down)
Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by hakeem4(m): 10:46pm On Dec 30, 2017 |
sonofthunder:moral :— standards of behaviour; principles of right and wrong. "the corruption of public morals" synonyms: moral code, code of ethics, moral standards, moral values, principles, principles of right and wrong, rules of conduct, standards/principles of behaviour, standards, morality, sense of morality, scruples, ideals "he has no morals and cannot be trusted" |
Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by ScienceWatch: 10:49pm On Dec 30, 2017 |
hakeem4:I am not surprised at all after all the secrets you have revealed to the world about Atheism. It has became very clear thanks to you that Atheists have "beliefs." Dawkins of course, is far from the only advocate of evolution to be a victim of this ironic hypocrisy, and he may not even be the most prominent. The recently released American film Religulous, hosted by comedian Bill Maher, features an ‘ambush’ interview of Senator Mark Pryor of Arkansas, in which Pryor states that the scientific community is divided over whether evolution is true. |
Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by ScienceWatch: 10:56pm On Dec 30, 2017 |
hakeem4:Please Hakeem4, dont read the Holy scripture below, this is not posted for you. I posted it to block millions of genuine truth seekers from the trap you laid here. You play a great game, but I am one up for you. Have you ever wondered why many people have a hard time honoring Jesus? Here Jesus explains this problem very clearly. John 6:65 And Jesus said, I have said to you, that no one can come to me and believe the WORKS I am doing, except if the true God sends them to me. |
Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by Nobody: 10:56pm On Dec 30, 2017 |
ScienceWatch: I AM NOT AN ATHEIST. |
Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by ScienceWatch: 11:02pm On Dec 30, 2017 |
hakeem4:These Homo animals you know of, do the female animals use 1.5metre plastic penisses/Dongles on there sexual partners ? Do the males orgasm in each other. The correct answer is no. |
Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by sonofthunder: 11:02pm On Dec 30, 2017 |
hakeem4:thank you for the definition. |
Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by butterflyl1on: 11:25pm On Dec 30, 2017 |
hakeem4: The earthquakes that happen on other planets how do they affect you? Are you having empathy towards empty planets or the dust particles on them that feel the effect of those earth quakes? Regarding number 2 you said we are intelligent "animals". Please tell me how we arrived at our own very serious level of Intelligence and left other "animals" behind after all we are all "animals" according to you. How come no other animal has gotten even a fraction of the intelligence we possess? So you feel intelligence is the reason why we pursue after those things I listed? Isn't intelligence then itself purpose? Hakeem4 what did you study in school or what are you studying in school and why? 1 Like |
Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by Nobody: 5:05pm On Jan 02, 2018 |
butterflyl1on: This is actually a very Christian thing to do. |
Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by Nobody: 6:20pm On Jan 02, 2018 |
KingEbukasBlog: I don't think anyone can provide irrefutable evidence for that....but how exactly do you explain the existence of a creator or his role in the creation of the universe? The fact that science can not and might never be able to provide a concrete answer doesn't make the existence of a creator any more credible than the big bang theory |
Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by Nobody: 6:40pm On Jan 02, 2018 |
sonofthunder: The govt will never legalise armed robbery and rape because these actually really hurt people directly. I can't see how "willful" marriage could be a crime. I have no idea how deep you think it is...But if you can't understand that it's possible for two men or 2 women to actually love eachother just as much as a man can love a woman or vice versa, then you probably have a very small mind that's not ready for expansion. The world is growing up. Who says it's wrong for 2 men or 2 women to get married? The Bible? God? Your point is that it's bad because women will cause serious damage to themselves with those gadgets. Are they stupid? Will a sane farmer intentionally cut himself with his cutlass? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by Nobody: 6:46pm On Jan 02, 2018 |
sonofthunder: Those gadgets are not illegal at the moment. I hope you are aware of that. I think the govt should worry about making knives and other sharp objects illegal. Maybe condoms too...the fact that they are legal only promotes rape. About what your friend said.. the word is "bullied". That's the problem. Having my female boss has me is as big a problem as having my male boss harass me. Religion is "working tirelessly and selflessly" to establish morality, equity and justice . WHICH religion is doing this exactly? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by KingEbukasBlog(m): 6:07pm On Jan 03, 2018 |
3nim: Something cannot come from nothing or Nothing produces Nothing (Ex nihilo nihil fit ) Something has to be eternal The universe cannot be eternal due to philosophical and scientific reasons And since all evidence points to a finite universe (one that has a beginning ) Then the universe was caused to exist , the agent behind its existence is itself uncaused . The agent= God The great Thomas Aquinas and Leibniz presented it in a better way though ..lol Then Kalam's Cosmological Argument for God's existence presents this in a syllogistic form 1. Whatever begins to exist must have a cause 2. The universe began to exist 3. Therefore , the universe has a cause The cause of the universe is beginless , uncaused , non-physical , immutable etc . The fact that science can not and might never be able to provide a concrete answer doesn't make the existence of a creator any more credible than the big bang theory The Big Bang was a procedure used to bring the universe into being sort of . The Big Bang is not an agent . 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by 4kings: 7:22am On Jan 04, 2018 |
KingEbukasBlog:This "something cannot come from nothing argument" is old, weak and not so clear now when observing the quantum world. I'm not saying i believe the universe comes from nothing but the current weirdness and inadequate understanding of quantum fields opens a possibility. And why can't a universe be eternal due to your "scientific" reasons?(I sincerely want to know this and please if it's the misunderstanding of Hawking's lecture you wanna bring as argument then don't bother.) Also i might be interested in learning the philosophical points too. |
Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by adepeter2027(m): 8:46pm On Jan 04, 2018 |
Àtimes, you are ridiculously funny. You just choose whatever point of theism that suites ya arguments to debate forgetting other aspects. I believe you're a theist and pantheism is a type or form of theism (I'm free/open to correction tho). More also, god is relative. According to pantheism, god is the Universe. Now if god is the universe, do you mean to say god is not eternal as well or am I quoting out of context? CC hopefulLandlord, dalaman and co KingEbukasBlog:But God can be eternal due to religious and "kingebukological" reasons àbí? 1 Like
|
Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:38pm On Jan 04, 2018 |
adepeter2027: The God I'm talking about is the separate conscious entity that transcends the universe. Pantheism doesn't posit that the universe is eternal . There are pantheists who believe the universe has a beginning. Deifying an entity does not make the entity eternal . "pan" in pantheism means everything. A pantheist can believe that everything including the creator of the universe is God . 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:57pm On Jan 04, 2018 |
4kings: Quantum mechanics does not prove the universe came from nothing neither does it prove the universe is eternal . I'm not talking of redefined "nothing" in science ignorant atheists use to confuse people . I'm talking about utter nothingness - physically , meta-physically and even to the quantum level . Even Sean Carroll admitted that utter nothingness existed prior to the "quantum world' . A universe as a whole from utter nothingness is pure stupidity - the idea is being entertained because of atheists who are "scientists" are uncomfortable with the fact that a universe which has a beginning must have a transcendent cause . And why can't a universe be eternal due to your "scientific" reasons?(I sincerely want to know this and please if it's the misunderstanding of Hawking's lecture you wanna bring as argument then don't bother.) Not my fault you can't understand it . Also i might be interested in learning the philosophical points too. There cant be an infinite number of past events and infinite number of causes . The beginning of the universe has to be the first temporal event that has ever occurred. For a universe with a beginning, we have myriads of reasons in science with actual evidence. The Borde-Vilenkin-Guth theorem is popularly used as evidence to support a finite universe . 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by KingEbukasBlog(m): 11:08pm On Jan 04, 2018 |
4kings: Who did and where was it refuted? I don't know if this challenge is still on, it would have been fun to debate number 1 with you, but it might just end up in a stalemate. Wow . I'm really busy now . Maybe next week . But seriously, what argument could you possibly bring that hasn't been refuted. If there was any , atheists would have been singing it like it were an anthem. I knew from the very start that NO ONE could produce anything because there is actually NO tenable argument or reason to say there is God (separate conscious entity that transcends the universe ) . And i support budaatum request of a judge though.No 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by KingEbukasBlog(m): 11:13pm On Jan 04, 2018 |
3nim Hello dear , I'm so sorry . I saw those questions you asked and I did respond to them but my post never went through. It was a long and the thought of retyping it irked me . So , can we have a discussion next week . I'll respond to all your questions I promise. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by adepeter2027(m): 11:42pm On Jan 04, 2018 |
KingEbukasBlog: @bold just proved my point. You just pick any definition of god you like to proof a point.
I don't know if you really understand the colored TEXTS Truth eh, you're good but this ya twisting and untwisting of terms and arguments is tiring. [s]OP |
Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by KingEbukasBlog(m): 12:37am On Jan 05, 2018 |
adepeter2027: ok |
Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by budaatum: 5:59am On Jan 05, 2018 |
Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by ScienceWatch: 2:04pm On Jan 05, 2018 |
KingEbukasBlog:Kingebukasblog Sir, could it be that these problems of Atheists arise in their minds because they have consciously or unconsciously begun to set up the existence of matter as an entity by itself. They have in very fact imagined the materiality of the world through taking it for granted, and are consequently the victims of what they have themselves created. For God has planted them in a universe of thoughts/spirit, whereas Atheists have taken it to be a universe of matter. Corrupt scientists has encouraged in Atheists the bad habit of looking outward through the five senses alone, of taking matter to be a real entity instead of taking it to be a thought, of misunderstanding his own experience and being finally incredulous of the fact that it is only a form of consciousness. It is the irony of human ignorance that those who loudly accuse the mentalist/spiritualist to be deluded are themselves steeped in delusion for the essence of their error consists in believing that when the spiritualist/mentalist denies the existence of matter he also denies the existence of things and people or else turns them into mere ghosts of their former selves. Atheists are victims of a corrupt scientific fraud. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by ScienceWatch: 2:14pm On Jan 05, 2018 |
KingEbukasBlog:Kingebukasblog, your sincere work to help humanity raise themselves, to higher vibrations of power is indeed hard. Atheists have been conned by corrupt scientists who's mission it is to lead humanity away from the mind-blowing personal power of the spiritual/esoteric/mind. They ignore much of the depth of their own findings that point to an awesome intelligent creator. Honest scientist have proved that all material matter at its very core is made up of light, from the chair to the atom, from the molecule to a single cell. It is written, "In the beginning God said, LET THERE BE LIGHT." 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by Nobody: 2:20pm On Jan 05, 2018 |
This thread is very funny. All these theists here why didn't you guyz go for the James Randi challenge am sure with ur "God - given" wisdom u would have destroyed their "nonsense" logic ,scattered the panel with superfluous evidence and brought home the one million dollars,just saying 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by ScienceWatch: 2:41pm On Jan 05, 2018 |
darkchild64:Darkchild64, dont you know how to discern the spirits of humans? If you did you would easily know that James Randi is a Satanic Atheist/God hater. I will leave it at that for now. Theists/Christians/Muslims are too wise. They wont waste their time with mockers of verifiable truth. Darkchild, you shy away from telling us why Atheists world-wide has FAILED so miserably at the simple challenge the esteemed Kingebukasblog generously offered to Atheist plus a huge cash reward. Atheists could have brought home the money and contributed to the spaceship that will take them to planet Mars, just saying. I am still waiting for your answers. Why did Hitler have to first become Atheist before he could kill millions of Jews? 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by ScienceWatch: 4:12pm On Jan 05, 2018 |
hakeem4:Now what do Atheists offer a suffering humanity? |
Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by ScienceWatch: 4:14pm On Jan 05, 2018 |
hakeem4:Atheists failed morally and ethically to bring home the prize that Kingebukasblog offer them. Now, what do Atheists offer a suffering humanity? |
Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by Nobody: 4:24pm On Jan 05, 2018 |
ScienceWatch: I don't know if Hitler was an atheist but let me agree he was one,now this might seem like am doing u a favour but u will soon find out its not the case Hitler killed millions of Jews(not technically) simply because he didn't like them The Christian god if we go by what the bible said would send an unimaginable number of people to hell simply because they didn't believe in him,and this of course would include those who never even heard of him. I think compared to the latter the former is a saint |
Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by ScienceWatch: 4:38pm On Jan 05, 2018 |
darkchild64:Please Abeg, dont do me any favours. Just tell it like it is. Call A spade a spade. What would you like the world to know about Hitler? |
Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by Nobody: 4:50pm On Jan 05, 2018 |
ScienceWatch: I don't know if Hitler was an atheist but let's assume he was Hitler killed millions of people(though not technically) simply because he didn't like them The Christian god if we go by the bible would send an unimaginable number of people to eternal damnation,simply because they didn't believe in him,including those who never even heard of him Compared to the latter, I think the former is a saint. Now to the question the op asked,for me I don't believe in Jehova,Allah and the rest because I don't see any evidence of their existence, its as simple as that,just the same way I don't believe in Santa claus because I don't have any evidence of his existence,I don't have anything to prove to anybody,neither am I interested in converting anyone,a person's religious convictions is the person's business,no one should despise another because they have different beliefs |
Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by budaatum: 4:51pm On Jan 05, 2018 |
darkchild64:James Randi's standards would be too onerous for them. This is a man who agreed to be in another town so he can't be said to affect the results of the tests. These lot want to be the accused, the judge and the juror! |
Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by ScienceWatch: 5:09pm On Jan 05, 2018 |
darkchild64:There are tons of scientifically verifiable evidence of Allah and Jehova, it is all around you but you must ignore the evidence to please your peers. Stay where you are, you really need them. |
(1) (2) (3) ... (16) (17) (18) (19) (20) (21) (Reply)
Father Chiedozie Modestus Chilaka Raises Dead Man In Owerrri - TrezzyHelm / TB Joshua Donates To 258 Libya Deportees, Gives Them N7million And Bags Of Rice / Adeboye Wearing Convocation Gown In UNN (Photos)
(Go Up)
Sections: politics (1) business autos (1) jobs (1) career education (1) romance computers phones travel sports fashion health religion celebs tv-movies music-radio literature webmasters programming techmarket Links: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10) Nairaland - Copyright © 2005 - 2024 Oluwaseun Osewa. All rights reserved. See How To Advertise. 82 |