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Re: EFL Cup Semi-Final: Chelsea vs Arsenal (0 - 0) On 10th January 2018 by Nobody: 12:47am On Jan 11, 2018
alobright17:
pumped how much , you kept shouting pumped money pumped money without any figure the money he pumped no get figures .
Pumped how much? It was as far back as 1912, over hundred years ago. You can't compare figures of 100 years ago with what is obtainable now. And sorry, I can't help you with the specific amount he pumped into Arsenal, that information is not readily available online. But what I do know is that Arsenal were already in voluntary liquidation before Sir Henry bought the club. He salvaged Arsenal from dying, built you a stadium (built a _fucking stadium for your club) in Highbury and was monumental part of the reason why the club is what it is today.


But that is not the point of debate, the point of debate is, just like Chelsea did Arsenal have a rich business owner pump money into the club which culminated into the club's success? Yes or no?
Re: EFL Cup Semi-Final: Chelsea vs Arsenal (0 - 0) On 10th January 2018 by alobright17(m): 12:54am On Jan 11, 2018
Hozier:
Google Sir Henry Norris.

The politician and businessman who pumped money into Arsenal and through corrupt means ensured Arsenal were promoted from the 2nd division despite coming 5th.




So this is the man that pumped money into Arsenal like Mancity, PSG , Chelsea owners e.t.c.

Henry Norris refused to allow Herbert Chapman to spend too much money to strengthen his team and in the 1926-27 season Arsenal finished in 11th position. However, they did enjoy a good run in the FA Cup. They beat Port Vale (0-1), Liverpool (2-0), Wolverhampton Wanderers (1-0) and Southampton (2-1) to reach the final at Wembley against Cardiff City.

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Re: EFL Cup Semi-Final: Chelsea vs Arsenal (0 - 0) On 10th January 2018 by Nobody: 1:05am On Jan 11, 2018
alobright17:




So this is the man that pumped money into Arsenal like Mancity, PSG , Chelsea owners e.t.c.

Henry Norris refused to allow Herbert Chapman to spend too much money to strengthen his team and in the 1926-27 season Arsenal finished in 11th position. However, they did enjoy a good run in the FA Cup. They beat Port Vale (0-1), Liverpool (2-0), Wolverhampton Wanderers (1-0) and Southampton (2-1) to reach the final at Wembley against Cardiff City.
He built Highbury for Arsenal with his own money. A _fucking whole stadium.

He bought all Arsenal's liabilities when Arsenal's were doomed for liquidation. Unlike Chelsea that had already qualified for the champions league before Abrahamovich bought them, Arsenal was struggling with relegation.

He bribed the officials to ensure Arsenal were promoted from the 2nd division to the premier league despite finishing 5th on the table, guess what, at the expense of Tottenham!

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Re: EFL Cup Semi-Final: Chelsea vs Arsenal (0 - 0) On 10th January 2018 by alobright17(m): 1:06am On Jan 11, 2018
Hozier:
Pumped how much? It was as far back as 1912, over hundred years ago. You can't compare figures of 100 years ago with what is obtainable now. And sorry, I can't help you with the specific amount he pumped into Arsenal, that information is not readily available online. But what I do know is that Arsenal were already in voluntary liquidation before Sir Henry bought the club. He salvaged Arsenal from dying, built you a stadium (built a _fucking stadium for your club) in Highbury and was monumental part of the reason why the club is what it is today.


But that is not the point of debate, the point of debate is, just like Chelsea did Arsenal have a rich business owner pump money into the club which culminated into the club's success? Yes or no?
Bring whatever figures he bought the club as it is shown on the figure Abramovich paid to rescue Chelsea.

I put it to you that the man was Arsenal chairman who used his own money to build a stadium as an investment and expected his returns.

It cost Henry Norris £80,000 to build Highbury Stadium. Norris desperately needed Arsenal to get back into the First Division if he was to get a profit out of his investment. However, in the 1913-14 season Arsenal finished in 3rd place and failed to go up because of a worse goal average than Bradford Park Avenue.

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Re: EFL Cup Semi-Final: Chelsea vs Arsenal (0 - 0) On 10th January 2018 by alobright17(m): 1:16am On Jan 11, 2018
Hozier:
He built Highbury for Arsenal with his own money. A _fucking whole stadium.

He bought all Arsenal's liabilities when Arsenal's were doomed for liquidation. Unlike Chelsea that had already qualified for the champions league before Abrahamovich bought them, Arsenal was struggling with relegation.

He bribed the officials to ensure Arsenal were promoted from the 2nd division to the premier league despite finishing 5th on the table, guess what, at the expense of Tottenham!
Hahahahahaha So he came and bought Arsenal like the Russian fraudster did and then became the owner of arsenal , is that what you're saying?

Henry Norris, was the chairman of Arsenal at this time. it is on record that he was the chairman not the owner like the Russian.

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Re: EFL Cup Semi-Final: Chelsea vs Arsenal (0 - 0) On 10th January 2018 by Nobody: 1:22am On Jan 11, 2018
alobright17:
Hahahahahaha So he came and bought Arsenal like the Russian fraudster did and then became the owner of arsenal , is that what you're saying?

Henry Norris, was the chairman of Arsenal at this time. it is on record that he was the chairman not the owner like the Russian.
He was also the majority shareholder at Arsenal then, just the same way Abrahamovich is the majority shareholder at Chelsea now.
alobright17:
Bring whatever figures he bought the club as it is shown on the figure Abramovich paid to rescue Chelsea.

I put it to you that the man was Arsenal chairman who used his own money to build a stadium as an investment and expected his returns.

It cost Henry Norris £80,000 to build Highbury Stadium. Norris desperately needed Arsenal to get back into the First Division if he was to get a profit out of his investment. However, in the 1913-14 season Arsenal finished in 3rd place and failed to go up because of a worse goal average than Bradford Park Avenue.

£80,000 pounds in 1912 is worth millions of pounds now. Inflation bro, inflation.

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Re: EFL Cup Semi-Final: Chelsea vs Arsenal (0 - 0) On 10th January 2018 by Nobody: 1:24am On Jan 11, 2018
cstr1001:

You see why Arsenal is shitt nowadays. You hang on irrelevant history, while your betters zoom past you.
In the next 20 years, your history will no longer be remembered among the footballers of the future because they never saw arsenal succeed in heir life-time.
The only common denominator among Arsenal fans everywhere is their hatred for new money because it cemented your perpetual mediocrity.

Chelsea no longer receives funding from Abramovcih for years now, it is now a self-funding entity, a top 6 earner in global club football, higher than Arsenal. It is now too big to fail.
Our commercial power is now a global Juggernaut and growing, and we have the best youth set-up in the country. We are set to build one of the biggest stadiums in Europe by 2020. It is too late to fail.

Even Mancity is now too big to fail. So your woes continue.


As for your financial doping, you can read about an arsenal chairman in the 20th century named Henry Norris, he was a real estate guru that pumped his own funds into Arsenal.

http://spartacus-educational.com/Farsenal.htm

Arsenal is the 3rd richest club or so. How can you say Chelsea earns more. Oga No dey lie like efe wey talk say he get 100 tracks.

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Re: EFL Cup Semi-Final: Chelsea vs Arsenal (0 - 0) On 10th January 2018 by cstr1001: 1:25am On Jan 11, 2018
alobright17:


Is either you read and never understood the article you read , Tell me how much the dude pumped into Arsenal , and I'll tell you amount Abramovic paid to rescue Chelsea from going into administration and then bought expensive players , that is what is called pumping money into a club or business.
It seems you have a problem with comprehension. Or your probably didn't read the article which is not my business.

The dude injected funds personal funds into arsenal commensurate with the amount required to make Arsenal a behemoth in the 20th century.
The level of competition was low, and Henry Norris didn't need to spend like an Abramovich, Just like Abrahamovich didn't need to spend as much as sheik mansour or the Qatar government for mancity and PSG respectively.

As the level of competition increases, financial doping becomes more expensive.
But financial doping is financial doping as long as the money being spent did not come from the club earnings.

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Re: EFL Cup Semi-Final: Chelsea vs Arsenal (0 - 0) On 10th January 2018 by cstr1001: 1:27am On Jan 11, 2018
alobright17:
Hahahahahaha So he came and bought Arsenal like the Russian fraudster did and then became the owner of arsenal , is that what you're saying?

Henry Norris, was the chairman of Arsenal at this time. it is on record that he was the chairman not the owner like the Russian.
He was a chairman that injected personal real estate funds into arsenal.



Real madrid was funded by the spanish Royalty using spanish wealth. I am sure you think Arsenal is a better club than Real madrid. cheesy
Re: EFL Cup Semi-Final: Chelsea vs Arsenal (0 - 0) On 10th January 2018 by cstr1001: 1:30am On Jan 11, 2018
There is no difference between Real madrid and PSG in real terms.

Both of them were financially doped by national Governments. Infact, Real madrid is still being funded by spain.

But ofcourse, an average arsenal fan will believe Real madrid is good and real, while PSG is bad and fake because Real madrid financial doping happened before he was born.

Such crass ignorance.

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Re: EFL Cup Semi-Final: Chelsea vs Arsenal (0 - 0) On 10th January 2018 by alobright17(m): 1:34am On Jan 11, 2018
cstr1001:

It seems you have a problem with comprehension. Or your probably didn't read the article which is not my business.

The dude injected funds personal funds into arsenal commensurate with the amount required to make Arsenal a behemoth in the 20th century.
The level of competition was low, and Henry Norris didn't need to spend like an Abramovich, Just like Abrahamovich didn't need to spend as much as sheik mansour or the Qatar government for mancity and PSG respectively.

As the level of competition increases, financial doping becomes more expensive.
But financial doping is financial doping as long as the money being spent did not come from the club earnings.

You're the one talking without figure when you claimed you didn't see figure, then from what figure are you quoting when you said he pumped money into Arsenal? So chairmen of football clubs then don't spend money? Did he bought Arsenal like The Russian criminal did?.

He was the chairman not the owner get that into your skull if you care or not ..... now listen Abramovich is the owner not the chairman of Chelsea he came in and bought Chelsea. You're yet to tell me how much he pumped into Arsenal be it 10 kobo then or 1 penny.

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Re: EFL Cup Semi-Final: Chelsea vs Arsenal (0 - 0) On 10th January 2018 by cstr1001: 1:42am On Jan 11, 2018
alobright17:


You're the one talking without figure when you claimed you didn't see figure, then from what figure are you quoting when you said he pumped money into Arsenal? So chairmen of football clubs then don't spend money? Did he bought Arsenal like The Russian criminal did?.

He was the chairman not the owner get that into your skull if you care or not ..... now listen Abramovich is the owner not the chairman of Chelsea he came in and bought Chelsea. You're yet to tell me how much he pumped into Arsenal be it 10 kobo then or 1 penny.
You are a dumb ninny.

What is financial doping? Are we arguing over who is chairman and who is owner?
Financial doping has nothing to do with ownership or chairmanship.

If Abrahamovich bought Chelsea without injecting his own personal funds for club expenses, would you call it financial doping?

The Glazers bought Manchester United, and have been busy extracting funds from the club into their own personal accounts without contributing much.

Would you accuse Manchester united of financial doping since they have an owner in the glazer family?

Real madrid has no owner, but they have being funded by the spanish Royalty to build their current status. Are they guilty of financial doping or not?

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Re: EFL Cup Semi-Final: Chelsea vs Arsenal (0 - 0) On 10th January 2018 by cstr1001: 1:46am On Jan 11, 2018
sacluxisback:


Arsenal is the 3rd richest club or so. How can you say Chelsea earns more. Oga No dey lie like efe wey talk say he get 100 tracks.
Check my post history.

I have already addressed this.
Re: EFL Cup Semi-Final: Chelsea vs Arsenal (0 - 0) On 10th January 2018 by alobright17(m): 1:47am On Jan 11, 2018
cstr1001:

He was a chairman that injected personal real estate funds into arsenal.



Real madrid was funded by the spanish Royalty using spanish wealth. I am sure you think Arsenal is a better club than Real madrid. cheesy

I'm asking is Abramovic owner or chairman of Chelsea.?



You can say whatever you like about real madrid but my point question remain is the man Arsenal owner or chairman , before and after him was there other chairmen or not ? Did the man bought Arsenal like the Russian did? So he started pumping money by stopping the then coach not to spend much on players ? So the current chairman that emirate stadium were built in his regime also pumped money into Arsenal ?

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Re: EFL Cup Semi-Final: Chelsea vs Arsenal (0 - 0) On 10th January 2018 by cstr1001: 1:50am On Jan 11, 2018
alobright17:


I'm asking is Abramovic owner or chairman of Chelsea.?



You can say whatever you like about real madrid but my point question remain is the man Arsenal owner or chairman , before and after him was there other chairmen or not ? Did the man bought Arsenal like the Russian did? So he started pumping money by stopping the then coach not to spend much on players ? So the current chairman that emirate stadium were built in his regime also pumped money into Arsenal ?
Jesus Christ.

Financial doping is when you inject outside money into a club that is not earned by the club to give its undue or unmerited advantage.

It can be done by an owner, a chairman , or a fan.

QED

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Re: EFL Cup Semi-Final: Chelsea vs Arsenal (0 - 0) On 10th January 2018 by alobright17(m): 1:51am On Jan 11, 2018
cstr1001:

You are a dumb ninny.

What is financial doping? Are we arguing over who is chairman and who is owner?
Financial doping has nothing to do with ownership or chairmanship.

If Abrahamovich bought Chelsea without injecting his own personal funds for club expenses, would you call it financial doping?

The Glazers bought Manchester United, and have been busy extracting funds from the club into their own personal accounts without contributing much.

Would you accuse Manchester united of financial doping since they have an owner in the glazer family?

Real madrid has no owner, but they have being funded by the spanish Royalty to build their current status. Are they guilty of financial doping or not?

you're actual senseless since I never see where your financial doping is coming from. see how you keep ranting and writing financial doping which I never see where I talk about it . What concern me with the doping you're talking about ? seems you're drunk .

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Re: EFL Cup Semi-Final: Chelsea vs Arsenal (0 - 0) On 10th January 2018 by alobright17(m): 1:53am On Jan 11, 2018
cstr1001:

Jesus Christ.

Financial doping is when you inject outside money into a club that is not earned by the club to give its undue or unmerited advantage.

It can be done by an owner, a chairman , or a fan.

QED

Mumu When was the law came into football ? and who is talking about financial doping here ? When did you changed from Arsenal having someone pumping money into the team back then to financial doping ?

Go and sleep since you need it.
Re: EFL Cup Semi-Final: Chelsea vs Arsenal (0 - 0) On 10th January 2018 by cstr1001: 1:57am On Jan 11, 2018
alobright17:


Mumu When was the law came into football ? and who is talking about financial doping here ? When did you changed from Arsenal having someone pumping money into the team back then to financial doping ?

Go and sleep since you need it.
If you are not talking about financial doping , then what in God's Temple are you talking about?

What exactly is Abrahamovich crime to Arsenal fans if not financial doping?

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Re: EFL Cup Semi-Final: Chelsea vs Arsenal (0 - 0) On 10th January 2018 by alobright17(m): 1:59am On Jan 11, 2018
cstr1001:

You are a dumb ninny.

What is financial doping? Are we arguing over who is chairman and who is owner?
Financial doping has nothing to do with ownership or chairmanship.

If Abrahamovich bought Chelsea without injecting his own personal funds for club expenses, would you call it financial doping?

The Glazers bought Manchester United, and have been busy extracting funds from the club into their own personal accounts without contributing much.

Would you accuse Manchester united of financial doping since they have an owner in the glazer family?

Real madrid has no owner, but they have being funded by the spanish Royalty to build their current status. Are they guilty of financial doping or not?

Hahahahaaha this is very funny , What even brought this issue of financial doping, When and when did I even accused anyone club of financial doping .... seems you're arguing in your dream ... deal on the pumping money and stop this financial doping trash you're ranting about.
Re: EFL Cup Semi-Final: Chelsea vs Arsenal (0 - 0) On 10th January 2018 by alobright17(m): 2:03am On Jan 11, 2018
cstr1001:

If you are not talking about financial doping , then what in God's Temple are you talking about?

What exactly is Abrahamovich crime to Arsenal fans if not financial doping?

I was asking you how much a certain man pumped into arsenal as you claimed , When did I talk to you about financial doping ?
Re: EFL Cup Semi-Final: Chelsea vs Arsenal (0 - 0) On 10th January 2018 by alobright17(m): 2:11am On Jan 11, 2018
cstr1001:

Jesus Christ.

Financial doping is when you inject outside money into a club that is not earned by the club to give its undue or unmerited advantage.

It can be done by an owner, a chairman , or a fan.

QED

Once again I'm pretty sure you thought you were arguing with your fellow baby fans when you made this statement here about injecting money into football from outside the earnings of the club. Let me ask you when did that rule came on ?
Re: EFL Cup Semi-Final: Chelsea vs Arsenal (0 - 0) On 10th January 2018 by Tecno66: 2:12am On Jan 11, 2018
Sheun001:


Just keep shut you hearundecided
What could a well strengthened Liverpool team do against weakened Chelsea 3seasons ago
Or ain't it this same arsenal that notts forest disgrace?
Oga, not same team notts forest team beat. Those not in that team that started today include Xhaka, Bellerin, Wilshere, Mustafi, Chambers and Lacasette. If you call that same team, nawa. The truth is that Arsenal has a weakened team this season and if chelsea are firing in all cylinders there is no reason why they should not be beating this arsenal team. Though I am not a chelsea fan but they are leaving a silent bomber on the bench in the person of Pedro. Moreover, I think Conte doesnt trust his players this season otherwise why play 5 midfielders at home against arsenal? Agreed its home and away stuff and he is being careful but I dont think this arsenal team is a threat to anyone this season. As an arsenal fan, when I saw the line up, I said we are finished today. So I am surprised. Let Conte put more trust on Pedro.
Re: EFL Cup Semi-Final: Chelsea vs Arsenal (0 - 0) On 10th January 2018 by Reference(m): 2:16am On Jan 11, 2018
They know the history of Arsenal and its chairman back a hundred years but don't know anything substantial about Nigeria and its president back to just 1983.....

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Re: EFL Cup Semi-Final: Chelsea vs Arsenal (0 - 0) On 10th January 2018 by PrinceKelex(m): 2:19am On Jan 11, 2018

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Re: EFL Cup Semi-Final: Chelsea vs Arsenal (0 - 0) On 10th January 2018 by Oyekanemmy(m): 4:49am On Jan 11, 2018
Aba Chelsea again what is the problem I know Chelsea will spoil people game God pls deliver this club from the bondage of draw.

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Re: EFL Cup Semi-Final: Chelsea vs Arsenal (0 - 0) On 10th January 2018 by perryy(m): 5:17am On Jan 11, 2018
mikron:
no mind them, most of them didnt know they were a mid table team before the russian billionaire bought chelsea. when the likes of tore andre flo, celestine babayaro, zola, gus poyet, didier deschamps, dennis wise, gianlluca vialli, jimmy floyd hasseibaink, marcel desailly, Eidur Gudjohnsen, carlton cole, wayne bridge and the ones i forgot to mention played for them, then autoglass was their official sponsor, they thought we dont know their history, comparing their team with BIG ARSENAL IS AN INSULT on arsenal fans. fine, they (chelsea) won the champs league once, but so did aston villa and Nottingham forest, grin grin grin grin
UNITED WE STAND,

I was a big man before , no be wetin them take dey proud for public. Take heart little ones. We need just a striker to finish you in the days ahead.

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Re: EFL Cup Semi-Final: Chelsea vs Arsenal (0 - 0) On 10th January 2018 by dabossman(m): 5:31am On Jan 11, 2018
TheSuperNerd:

Looolll.... all for cheap likes.... cheesy but he is a good lad all the same. Not easy keeping that discipline in the center of a three man back line. wink

Truth is Christensen have been good this season... and the stats I gave are sqwuaka's not mine.




Likes? Come on dude. Just banter. I'm just messing with you.
Re: EFL Cup Semi-Final: Chelsea vs Arsenal (0 - 0) On 10th January 2018 by perryy(m): 5:37am On Jan 11, 2018
alobright17:


Hahahahaaha this is very funny , What even brought this issue of financial doping, When and when did I even accused anyone club of financial doping .... seems you're arguing in your dream ... deal on the pumping money and stop this financial doping trash you're ranting about.

It seems you have poor understanding of the English language. You accused Abrahamovich of pumping money into Chelsea, and you turned around to say you ain't talking of financial doping . Hahaha, what is pumping money and what is financial doping?

Go burrow sense abeg

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Re: EFL Cup Semi-Final: Chelsea vs Arsenal (0 - 0) On 10th January 2018 by eleko1: 6:04am On Jan 11, 2018
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Re: EFL Cup Semi-Final: Chelsea vs Arsenal (0 - 0) On 10th January 2018 by emmie14: 6:33am On Jan 11, 2018
KevinDein:
grin
Name that millionaire.

Listen Mr, in the next 20 or so years, Chelsea without the backing of Roman would turn to another Leeds, Nottingham forest or something like that. And you would probably become a fan of Man city or PSG or any other financially doped club. Chelsea fans are basically glory hunters in my eyes. Arsenal on the other hand would remain a traditional big British club like it has always been for over a century.

Facts don't lie, bro. grin

2018 facts
Re: EFL Cup Semi-Final: Chelsea vs Arsenal (0 - 0) On 10th January 2018 by chas22: 7:08am On Jan 11, 2018
U cannot fight on two font, it is either u are a Chelsea fan or Barca.

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