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Re: The Lies APC Told Us About PDP 16years Rule by elampiro(m): 7:19pm On Jan 11, 2018
engineerboat:
@elampiro

1. What is bag of rice 2015 vs 2018

2. What is dollar rate 2015 vs 2018

3. What is PMS price oer litre 2015 vs 2018

4. What is pure water satchet 2015 vsb2018

5. I bag of fetrilizer 2015 vs 2018
It would have been worse with PDP because with oil at $76/barrel, Iweala told us to brace up for hardship. The naira clashed from 160+ to 250+, and prices were going up.

When oil fell below $70, Iweala said the FG was borrowing to pay salaries.

The govt that refused to save for the raining days.
Re: The Lies APC Told Us About PDP 16years Rule by engineerboat(op): 7:20pm On Jan 11, 2018
elampiro:
The figures do not make sense.

Give is revenue from 2010 to date with specific indications.
How will it make sense to you.

CBN data did not make sense to you, but a news paper will make sense to you.

Kare.
Re: The Lies APC Told Us About PDP 16years Rule by engineerboat(op): 7:21pm On Jan 11, 2018
elampiro:
It would have been worse with PDP because with oil at $76/barrel, Iweala told us to brace up for hardship. The naira clashed from 160+ to 250+, and prices were going up.

When oil fell below $70, Iweala said the FG was borrowing to pay salaries.

The govt that refused to save for the raining days.
Answer the question.

Stop beating about the bush
Re: The Lies APC Told Us About PDP 16years Rule by engineerboat(op): 7:22pm On Jan 11, 2018
elampiro:
It would have been worse with PDP because with oil at $76/barrel, Iweala told us to brace up for hardship. The naira clashed from 160+ to 250+, and prices were going up.

When oil fell below $70, Iweala said the FG was borrowing to pay salaries.

The govt that refused to save for the raining days.
Its vey simple, answer the question

If you are bold enough for a robust discussion

@elampiro

1. What is bag of rice 2015 vs 2018

2. What is dollar rate 2015 vs 2018

3. What is PMS price oer litre 2015 vs 2018

4. What is pure water satchet 2015 vsb2018

5. I bag of fetrilizer 2015 vs 2018
Re: The Lies APC Told Us About PDP 16years Rule by engineerboat(op): 7:25pm On Jan 11, 2018
Since you want to divert the attention from the Post.

Am refreshing your mind back to the post.

@elampiro

1. What is bag of rice 2015 vs 2018

2. What is dollar rate 2015 vs 2018


3. What is PMS price oer litre 2015 vs 2018

4. What is pure water satchet 2015 vsb2018

5. I bag of fetrilizer 2015 vs 2018

That summarize what is the OP

Now answer the question
Re: The Lies APC Told Us About PDP 16years Rule by ivandragon: 8:29pm On Jan 11, 2018
today, the average price of fuel is N200, yet pmb feigns ignorance...

the few fueling stations that sell at N145 have abnormally long queues & only those who are ready to forfeit business/work for the day are willing to stay in such queues...


yet one clown will come out & defend pmb?


some persons should donate their brains to medical research centres so as to find out if stup!dity is hereditary...
Re: The Lies APC Told Us About PDP 16years Rule by elampiro(m): 8:42pm On Jan 11, 2018
engineerboat:
Since you want to divert the attention from the Post.

Am refreshing your mind back to the post.

@elampiro

1. What is bag of rice 2015 vs 2018

2. What is dollar rate 2015 vs 2018


3. What is PMS price oer litre 2015 vs 2018

4. What is pure water satchet 2015 vsb2018

5. I bag of fetrilizer 2015 vs 2018

That summarize what is the OP

Now answer the question
You think I am an idle man to be repeating my reply?
Re: The Lies APC Told Us About PDP 16years Rule by elampiro(m): 8:45pm On Jan 11, 2018
engineerboat:
How will it make sense to you.

CBN data did not make sense to you, but a news paper will make sense to you.

Kare.
That is not CBN data.

If you want any data go to CBN website or the Federal govt monthly/quarterly/yearly report here.

http://www.dmo.gov.ng/publications/reports/dmo-annual-report-statement-of-accounts


Or go to independent performance report websites.

If you want any report for any period of time in history you will get. Stop posting data you don't even understand. You went to school, fetch them yourself and look at them critically. Jona finished Nigeria.
Re: The Lies APC Told Us About PDP 16years Rule by engineerboat(op): 8:49pm On Jan 11, 2018
elampiro:
You think I am an idle man to be repeating my reply?
The fact that it take you this long to respond shows you have no answer to the said questions and just hiding from the obvious
Re: The Lies APC Told Us About PDP 16years Rule by elampiro(m): 8:52pm On Jan 11, 2018
engineerboat:
The fact that it take you this long to respond shows you have no answer to the said questions and just hiding from the obvious
So all you do all your life is sit on nairaland? You must be very idle.

Do YOU KNOW IF i WAS DRIVING HOME?
Re: The Lies APC Told Us About PDP 16years Rule by tuniski: 9:34pm On Jan 11, 2018
elampiro:
Nigeria will be 100% self-sufficient in rice production/farming this year. It rubbishes your allegations.

The monies recovered from looking how much do you think it is? How much of it has been cleared for use by the court?

However, part of it will be used for 2018 budget as stated by the government.
Govt lie!
Re: The Lies APC Told Us About PDP 16years Rule by fuckbmc: 10:04pm On Jan 11, 2018
elampiro:
Obasanjo's era cost of governance is not as high as today. The cost of governance went up with Yaradua and Jonathan.

Also Obasanjo enjoyed money from Teelecom licencing.
how much from telecom companies?

Are you aware that Bubaris administration still enjoys licencing fee collected from telecom operator up till today or you don't know that its not one time fee?
What about betting companies that pays buhari administration whereas there's nothing like that during Obasanjo adminstration.

You are yet to tell me why Buhari failed as military administrator and still fails as civilian president, history is there bro. Or shall we blame PDP for Buhari failure during his military administration?
Re: The Lies APC Told Us About PDP 16years Rule by deji68:
Well, he has disputed it many times, ...he grew the ECA he met to about 9 billion ... accordng to worldank

Crude Account balance increased from negligible
levels at the end of 2010 to an estimated US$
8.6 billion in 2012.
This is still far less than the
US$ 22 billion that the country had accumulated
on the eve of the world financial turmoil in 2008.
Two primary factors prevented a more rapid increase
in the ECA balance during the time of
generally strong oil prices in 2011-2012. In 2011,
a major increase in fuel subsidy payments (4.6%
of GDP) limited the accumulation of the ECA.
In 2012, the Government succeeded in reducing
fuel subsidy obligations significantly, but a
decline in oil output and revenues tightened the
budgetary position of the country
http://documents.worldbank.org/curated/en/934931468291633000/pdf/776840WP0Niger0Box0342041B00PUBLIC0.pdf

Well, i have disputed all your claims with data... foreign reserve,. ECA, or even your oil revenue claim was wrong too because that is the gross earning .NNPC and oil companies share the 60/40 ...that means NNPC get from the 425 billion only 254 billon.NNPC keep some part of 254 bil as running cost and rest are shared among the federating units...


elampiro:
This is not true. The GEJ govt didn't deny inheriting the money, the excuse they gave was that the state governors requested to share the money which GEj granted.

Anyway, you may dispute this because the account was not being monitored, but you cannot dispute the other figures.
Re: The Lies APC Told Us About PDP 16years Rule by engineerboat(op): 8:44am On Jan 12, 2018
deji68:
Well, he has disputed it many times, ...he grew the ECA he met to about 9 billion ... accordng to worldank


http://documents.worldbank.org/curated/en/934931468291633000/pdf/776840WP0Niger0Box0342041B00PUBLIC0.pdf

Well, i have disputed all your claims with data... foreign reserve,. ECA, or even your oil revenue claim was wrong too because that is the gross earning .NNPC and oil companies share the 60/40 ...that means NNPC get from the 425 billion only 254 billon.NNPC keep some part of 254 bil as running cost and rest are shared among the federating units...
Elampiro and BMC Co-travellers are only good at dishing out figures and claims.

That is there trademarks
Re: The Lies APC Told Us About PDP 16years Rule by deji68: 9:27am On Jan 12, 2018
Abio just to decieve the gullible...they know naija dont care about facts..they like hearing wonderful stories about billions true or false
engineerboat:
Elampiro and BMC Co-travellers are only good at dishing out figures and claims.

That is there trademarks
Re: The Lies APC Told Us About PDP 16years Rule by elampiro(m): 9:42am On Jan 12, 2018
fuckbmc:
how much from telecom companies?

Are you aware that Bubaris administration still enjoys licencing fee collected from telecom operator up till today or you don't know that its not one time fee?
What about betting companies that pays buhari administration whereas there's nothing like that during Obasanjo adminstration.

You are yet to tell me why Buhari failed as military administrator and still fails as civilian president, history is there bro. Or shall we blame PDP for Buhari failure during his military administration?
MTN alone paid $285m (for one of four GSM licenses in Nigeria) in January 2001
Re: The Lies APC Told Us About PDP 16years Rule by elampiro(m): 9:48am On Jan 12, 2018
deji68:
Well, he has disputed it many times, ...he grew the ECA he met to about 9 billion ... accordng to worldank


http://documents.worldbank.org/curated/en/934931468291633000/pdf/776840WP0Niger0Box0342041B00PUBLIC0.pdf

Well, i have disputed all your claims with data... foreign reserve,. ECA, or even your oil revenue claim was wrong too because that is the gross earning .NNPC and oil companies share the 60/40 ...that means NNPC get from the 425 billion only 254 billon.NNPC keep some part of 254 bil as running cost and rest are shared among the federating units...
You are unable to dispute even one. You brought an alleged 2012 figure.

I gave you govt website where you see the reserve of each govt.
RESERVES REPORT

1. PRESIDENT OLUSEGUN OBASANJO (1999-2007)

FOREIGN RESERVE
Inherited: $3.7 billion (1999)
Left: $45.0 billion (2007)

2. UMARU MUSA YAR ADUA (2007 - 2009)

EXTERNAL RESERVE
Inherited: $45.0 billion
Grew To: $63 billion in September, 2008*
Left: $47. 7 billion (As at Dec 31st 2009 when Jonathan took over as "Overseer" )


3. PRESIDENT GOODLUCK JONATHAN (2009-2015)

FOREIGN RESERVE:
Inherited: $47.7 billion
Left: $29 billion

4. PRESIDENT MUHAMMADU BUHARI

FOREIGN RESERVE:
Inherited: $29
Currently: $40 billion

Source, govt annual report website.

The above exclude excess crude account which Jonathan inherited 22 billion and left only less than $2b
Re: The Lies APC Told Us About PDP 16years Rule by engineerboat(op):
deji68:
Abio just to decieve the gullible...they know naija dont care about facts..they like hearing wonderful stories about billions true or false
Beeni.

I've been asking them this simple question.

Yet they seem clueless about the answer.



1. What is bag of rice 2015 vs 2018

2. What is dollar rate 2015 vs 2018


3. What is PMS price oer litre 2015 vs 2018

4. What is pure water satchet 2015 vsb2018

5. I bag of fetrilizer 2015 vs 2018.


Well i will keep asking them

Re: The Lies APC Told Us About PDP 16years Rule by elampiro(m): 9:50am On Jan 12, 2018
engineerboat:
Elampiro and BMC Co-travellers are only good at dishing out figures and claims.

That is there trademarks
I gave you govt website to pick genuine figures and stats. You still want to believe fake figures. These figures have been in govt website before Bahuri, so no lies at all.
Re: The Lies APC Told Us About PDP 16years Rule by elampiro(m): 9:52am On Jan 12, 2018
deji68:
Abio just to decieve the gullible...they know naija dont care about facts..they like hearing wonderful stories about billions true or false
You are the one gullible here.

Are you too lazy to go to CBN or government annual report website to fetch data? Do you know there are independent monitoring websites giving the reports as well?
Re: The Lies APC Told Us About PDP 16years Rule by deji68: 9:53am On Jan 12, 2018
Lol...the central bank chart i gave u is the official figure not this your propanganda piece..

elampiro:
You are unable to dispute even one. You brought an alleged 2012 figure.

I gave you govt website where you see the reserve of each govt.
RESERVES REPORT

1. PRESIDENT OLUSEGUN OBASANJO (1999-2007)

FOREIGN RESERVE
Inherited: $3.7 billion (1999)
Left: $45.0 billion (2007)

2. UMARU MUSA YAR ADUA (2007 - 2009)

EXTERNAL RESERVE
Inherited: $45.0 billion
Grew To: $63 billion in September, 2008*
Left: $47. 7 billion (As at Dec 31st 2009 when Jonathan took over as "Overseer" )


3. PRESIDENT GOODLUCK JONATHAN (2009-2015)

FOREIGN RESERVE:
Inherited: $47.7 billion
Left: $29 billion

4. PRESIDENT MUHAMMADU BUHARI

FOREIGN RESERVE:
Inherited: $29
Currently: $40 billion

Source, govt annual report website.

The above exclude excess crude account which Jonathan inherited 22 billion and left only less than $2b

Re: The Lies APC Told Us About PDP 16years Rule by elampiro(m): 9:53am On Jan 12, 2018

EXTERNAL DEBT REPORT

1. PRESIDENT OLUSEGUN OBASANJO (1999-2007)

EXTERNAL DEBT:
Inherited: $30 billion
Cleared : $18 billion
Paid: $ 12 billion Dollars
Left: $3,348.22bn-2007


2. UMARU MUSA YAR ADUA (2007 - 2009)

EXTERNAL DEBT:
Inherited: $3,348.22 billion
Left: $3.94 billion Dollars


3. PRESIDENT GOODLUCK JONATHAN (2009-2015)

EXTERNAL DEBT
Inherited: $3.94 billion Dollars
Left:$10.3 billion Dollars


4. PRESIDENT MUHAMMADU BUHARI
Inherited: $10.3 billion Dollars
Currently: $15.0 billion Dollars


Source: Govt annual report
Re: The Lies APC Told Us About PDP 16years Rule by deji68: 9:55am On Jan 12, 2018
U are the gullible one...i gave worldbank report...cbn chart... so if dont believe those 2 sources.....then i cant help u ...
elampiro:
You are the one gullible here.

Are you too lazy to go to CBN or government annual report website to fetch data? Do you know there are independent monitoring websites giving the reports as well?
Re: The Lies APC Told Us About PDP 16years Rule by elampiro(m): 9:56am On Jan 12, 2018
deji68:
Lol...the central bank chart i gave u is the official figure not this your propanganda piece..
Provide the source of this chat.

Even Iweala admitted to the figures in my posts
Re: The Lies APC Told Us About PDP 16years Rule by deji68: 9:57am On Jan 12, 2018
We are talking about foreign reserve u are talking about foreign debt.....even that PMB is the worst...i can provide chart toprove it....
elampiro:

EXTERNAL DEBT REPORT

1. PRESIDENT OLUSEGUN OBASANJO (1999-2007)

EXTERNAL DEBT:
Inherited: $30 billion
Cleared : $18 billion
Paid: $ 12 billion Dollars
Left: $3,348.22bn-2007


2. UMARU MUSA YAR ADUA (2007 - 2009)

EXTERNAL DEBT:
Inherited: $3,348.22 billion
Left: $3.94 billion Dollars


3. PRESIDENT GOODLUCK JONATHAN (2009-2015)

EXTERNAL DEBT
Inherited: $3.94 billion Dollars
Left:$10.3 billion Dollars


4. PRESIDENT MUHAMMADU BUHARI
Inherited: $10.3 billion Dollars
Currently: $15.0 billion Dollars


Source: Govt annual report
Re: The Lies APC Told Us About PDP 16years Rule by deji68: 9:59am On Jan 12, 2018
Cant u read?'...provide a chart from.cbn or any institution to back yout claim....
elampiro:
Provide the source of this chat.

Even Iweala admitted to the figures in my posts
Re: The Lies APC Told Us About PDP 16years Rule by elampiro(m): 10:02am On Jan 12, 2018
deji68:
We are talking about foreign reserve u are talking about foreign debt.....even that PMB is the worst...i can provide chart toprove it....
I have given you foreign reserve, the foreign debt is from same govt annual report website. Buhari didn’t inpute those figures, but Iweala as minister of Finance then.
Re: The Lies APC Told Us About PDP 16years Rule by elampiro(m): 10:03am On Jan 12, 2018
deji68:
Lol...the central bank chart i gave u is the official figure not this your propanganda piece..
Liar

Give us link to your CBN report.
Re: The Lies APC Told Us About PDP 16years Rule by elampiro(m): 10:05am On Jan 12, 2018
deji68:
Cant u read?'...provide a charz from.cbn or any institution to back yout claim....
I have given my sources as Opec, CBN and govt website.

Can you at least provide source to your wayo charts?
Re: The Lies APC Told Us About PDP 16years Rule by deji68: 10:06am On Jan 12, 2018
And where is the link .... grin
elampiro:
I have given my sources as Opec, CBN and govt website.

Can you at least provide source to your wayo charts?
Re: The Lies APC Told Us About PDP 16years Rule by fuckbmc: 10:09am On Jan 12, 2018
elampiro:
MTN alone paid $285m (for one of four GSM licenses in Nigeria) in January 2001
why did buhari failed as military administrator in the 80s but still fail now? what has buhar achieved with the fine collected from MTN all in the name of unregistered sim fine?
Re: The Lies APC Told Us About PDP 16years Rule by elampiro(m): 10:12am On Jan 12, 2018
deji68:
And where is the link .... grin
The one I gave you last night.
Where is your own link?
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