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ericmani:
oga America, UK, Germany, France, Italy, Brazil, e.t.c have always and will always be a christain state no matter what..now u are blaming the church for the lack of development of this country, forgettion, no not forgetting, ignoring the fact that it is our leaders that is the course of the country's lack of development

Shut your trap!
LOL which country is a Christian state GERMANY? FRANCE? UK? where men make out with men? Germany where prostitution is legal? or where nobody cares or wants to hear shit about ANY religion? Dont sit in your wretched chair somewhere in ekpomma without lights and write shit about countries you never been to nor know shit about.

Bollinger:
Yes they are. Both mentally and physically.

They're still better than you're. Deal with it.

ericmani:
oga America, UK, Germany, France, Italy, Brazil, e.t.c have always and will always be a christain state no matter what..now u are blaming the church for the lack of development of this country, forgettion, no not forgetting, ignoring the fact that it is our leaders that is the course of the country's lack of development

How come the so called Men of God in those countries have never prophesied about who is going to win the elections especially in the US.
Let's not lie to ourselves, religion is actively involved in the state affairs of Nigeria and it hasn't done us any good.

Penalty82:
They're still better than you're. Deal with it.

If you Say so bro. If you say so.

I don't think the church compelled Freeze to observe the fasting though. So why was that his problems. If u think prayer is needless, no problem,God will lecture u personally: I just hope it will nt be late.

Hardworking is key ,prayer is also key.

MorataFC:
This man has brainwashed many people, what is the correlation between fasting and prosperity? So Saudi and Qatar fasted because of prosperity, Muhammed and Jesus Christ fasted because of prosperity?

Don't ignore facts bro. Go into that church and ask the people what they expect and why they are fasting, the average person will tell you, they are seeking health, children, money, cars, promotions, jobs, etc. Are these not all prosperity? Don't you know as they are there seekingbtgese things, men in the west are actively sweating in the labs looking for better drugs for malaria and other medicine to cure their problems?

Bidobado:
How come the so called Men of God in those countries have never prophesied about who is going to win the elections especially in the US.
Let's not lie to ourselves, religion is actively involved in the state affairs of Nigeria and it hasn't done us any good.

Dont follow a blind man, you will both end up in a gutter. Those states are secular states!

1freshdude:
This is not a way to understand issues, in medicine, do you cure an ailment by merely treating symptoms? I believe you had to write some form of thesis or research paper to get your degree...what does empirics say about this development?

Well, I have given you the cause of our problem...our reliance on imported stuff from time inmemmorial....it is you that refuses to see the cause.

Ok...let's get down to the cause

In a strict sense, the Dutch disease refers to the crowding out of the traditional export sector by a new booming export sector and the non-tradable goods sector. However, in a broad sense, a country is said to have developed the Dutch disease syndrome when an income "windfall" in the economy leads to harmful or adverse consequences including a decline in the traditional sources of income in the country. The income windfall may come from sharp increases in the price (or production) of exportable (tradable) natural resources (e.g. crude oil, cocoa, coffee, diamond, gold, etc) and/or sharp increases in foreign aid or direct foreign investment or loans, resulting in sharp increase in foreign exchange earnings. The Dutch disease syndrome has existed, albeit in a benign form, since nations started trading with each other. However, it derives its current name from the experiences of the Netherland in the 1960s following the discovery and exploitation of large deposits of natural gas in the country's adjoining North Sea. This led to a significant increase in the country's revenue (foreign exchange) and appreciation of the country's currency (i.e. the Dutch guilder became stronger) which in turn led to a reduction in the competitiveness of the non-oil tradable goods sector of the economy. What was otherwise a positive development in the oil sector led to problems in other sectors of the economy including a depression in the non-oil export sector. It was not until the mid 1970s that the Dutch disease took a malignant form in many oil-exporting and some other mono-cultural developing countries as well as in some aid-dependent countries.

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Corden and Neary (1982) have demonstrated how Dutch disease occurs in an economy. According to them, in a country experiencing "boom" in the export of a commodity, the economy can be divided into three sectors: the "booming" export sector, the "lagging' traditional export sector and the non-export sector. The Dutch disease occurs when the traditional export (tradable goods) sector is crowded out by the booming export sector and the non-tradable goods sector. The lagging traditional tradable goods sector may include cocoa, palm produce, cotton, rubber, coal, copper, textiles and some manufactured goods while the booming export sector may be crude oil, coffee, gold, etc. The non-tradable (non-export) goods sector covers all those goods that are produced for domestic consumption only, e.g. staple food items, clothing, building materials, locally-assembled cars. Where crude oil (and gas) is the booming export sector, the non-oil export sector may be crowded out by the oil sector and the non-tradable goods sector of the economy. This can happen when the oil revenue windfall increases domestic demand for non-tradable goods and pushes up domestic prices leading to an appreciation of the real exchange rate which in turn reduces the competitiveness of the non-oil export sector. This will in turn lead to a reduction in non-oil exports in both quantum and value terms. The oil windfall may also lead to movement of the factors of production in the economy. For instance, capital and labor (and land) may shift from the non-oil export sector to the oil sector (in order to maintain or increase reserves and production) and the non-tradable goods sector (to take advantage of the growing domestic demand). This explains why the increase in oil prices and the subsequent oil revenue windfall in many oil-exporting countries have tended to depress their non-oil export sector while at the same time generating a boom in both the oil and the non-tradable goods sectors. With capital and labor shifting from the non-oil export sector to the oil-sector and non-traded goods sector, firms in the non-oil export sector are forced to either close down or reduce their scale of operation. The boom in the oil and non-traded goods sector increases the demand for imported goods. This may not be a problem in the short-term so long as the country has enough foreign exchange to pay for the imports. The depression in the non-oil export sector and the boom in the other two sectors have medium to long term implications for the economy because the oil windfall will not be permanent given the volatility, unpredictability and exhaustibility of crude oil. For instance, if there is a decline in oil prices and oil revenue, the lagging and collapsing non-oil export sector will not be able to compensate for the drop in oil revenue while domestic demand for the non-traded goods and imports remain sticky. Consequently, the country will be forced to borrow from the international financial market to compensate for the decline in oil revenue. Over time, external debts will increase and so will the debt service obligations. Even when oil prices go up later and there is another round of oil windfall, it is difficult to correct the earlier damage or distortions created by the initial or previous oil windfall. In some cases, the oil exporting country may be forced to adopt some form of structural adjustment program (SAP) to correct such distortions or imbalances. Some of these SAPs are painful and may increase the prevalence, depth and severity of poverty.

In an extreme case, the Dutch Disease can lead to "Immiserising Growth" syndrome - a situation where increase in the output of exported commodity by a country leads to a deterioration of the country's welfare (Bhagwati, 1958). This happens when the effect of export-led growth on a country's terms of trade is strong enough to more than offset the direct benefits of growth. It is an extreme case of self-defeating growth. Although the theory of Immiserising Growth was not originally developed for oil-exporting countries, its tenets apply to many oil-exporting countries in the sense that despite the substantial increase in their export revenue, they have suffered significant decline in general welfare due largely to mismanagement of their oil revenue. Thus, the Dutch Disease syndrome confirms the assertion by a Spanish writer in the 16th Century that "the gratification of wealth is not found in mere possession or in lavish expenditure but in its wise application". Although the main manifestation of the Dutch disease syndrome in an oil exporting country is the decline or depression in the non-oil export sector, other "collateral" manifestations include appreciation of the real exchange rate at the onset, increase in corruption, increase in external debt and increase in poverty. However, an oil-exporting country must not suffer from the Dutch Disease. Furthermore, not all oil-exporting countries suffering from the disease have all "collateral" manifestations at the same time. Country experiences vary considerably depending on their political economy.

Sauce

The problem is not religion, but the idea that we need to export raw materials, share the money and become wealthy.

Good afternoon.

exlinkleads:
Better You Work Hard, Innovate & Be Creative Than To Do 50 Days Fasten & Prayer - Daddy Freeze Slams RCCG

OAP Freeze never left any stone un-turned when it comes to the way he feels about Nigerian pastors and RCCG church is indeed the one dearest to his heart. He never hesitate on any opportunity he has to throw tantrums against the church and its pastors, owning to the fact that they are the No. 1 in tithes and misleading of the "sheeples".

In a post he shared on Instagram, Daddy Freeze requested that RCCG should remove him from their mailing list as threy send him the prayer point for the "Day 2" of their 50 days fasten and prayer continues.

He also advised the church to teach their members how to work hard and make money rather than telling them they can pray their way to wealth.

See his post below....



https://www.instagram.com/p/Bd2K7MOnM26/

More @ http://www.exlinklodge.com/2018/01/better-you-work-hard-innovate-be.html

Chai. What a pity.

I've come to realize why Christians cannot make an impact against corruption in Nigeria.

During a Sunday school lesson last Sunday on the life of Daniel, I asked members of the class what they would do if they find themselves in a corrupt establishment where they could be victimized for standing for the truth. Everyone answered that they will join the system to "chop" money.

Nigerian Christianity is corrupt.

Who can save us?

1freshdude:
Dont follow a blind man, you will both end up in a gutter. Those states are circular states!

You mean secular.
Regardless common sense and determination of the people yields development, not some pie in the sky lie.

Ekealterego:
of course, we shouldn't blame one another or throw stones, we should work but however, we must establish that we need small faith but a lot of work which includes, intellectual, physical and mental works. All these religions were introduced to us wasn't it? If India had ruled us, may be we would be Hindus, but whichever way, we must learn the principles about how things work and stop giving our people empty hopes.

who is giving empty hopes. Which church tells you not to work but eat? My church tells me a man that can't work should not eat. You are not making sense really. You keep going up and down not addressing what I countered. Again, is church the problem or the people? Is religion the problem? Before religion came, were you forefathers not selling their brothers as slaves. Were the whites not fighting over which territory to colonise because of the obvious mental laziness? Think man. Go back time line you will see what the problem is

exlinkleads:
Better You Work Hard, Innovate & Be Creative Than To Do 50 Days Fasten & Prayer - Daddy Freeze Slams RCCG

OAP Freeze never left any stone un-turned when it comes to the way he feels about Nigerian pastors and RCCG church is indeed the one dearest to his heart. He never hesitate on any opportunity he has to throw tantrums against the church and its pastors, owning to the fact that they are the No. 1 in tithes and misleading of the "sheeples".

In a post he shared on Instagram, Daddy Freeze requested that RCCG should remove him from their mailing list as they send him the prayer point for the "Day 2" of their 50 days fasten and prayer continues.

He also advised the church to teach their members how to work hard and make money rather than telling them they can pray their way to wealth.

See his post below....



https://www.instagram.com/p/Bd2K7MOnM26/

More @ http://www.exlinklodge.com/2018/01/better-you-work-hard-innovate-be.html

This man is just taking it personal.
Let’s be clear, the primary school you are referring to doesn’t reflect the general fees in other rccg schools, it’s just for that parish.
2. Those nations were not great because of their religious practice, don’t get it twisted.
3. Catholics are over a billion in the world. Thus, Christian nations should rightly have more Catholics.
4. All Christians fast. Even Muslims fast, so what are you saying?
5. Is it your fast? What gives you the right to criticize them?
6. It is obvious you’re doing this for publicity, because when ‘normal’ people receive unwanted emails, they simply delete them, block the sender or unsubscribe.

Proverbs 18:6-7 The lips of fools bring them strife, and their mouths invite a beating. The mouths of fools are their undoing, and their lips are a snare to their very lives

9jakohai:
Well, I have given you the cause of our problem...our reliance on imported stuff from time inmemmorial....it is you that refuses to see the cause.

Ok...let's get down to the cause


Sauce

The problem is not religion, but the idea that we need to export raw materials, share the money and become wealthy.

Good afternoon.

This are all parts of the problems....very small parts, the emirate countries developed from the export of raw materials...so what do you say about that?
There are more fundamental problems that you can understand only by looking at history, what did others do to develop? The Industrial revolution in Britain is a place to start.

selfemployed:
Chai. What a pity.

I've come to realize why Christians cannot make an impact against corruption in Nigeria.

During a Sunday school lesson last Sunday on the life of Daniel, I asked members of the class what they would do if they find themselves in a corrupt establishment where they could be victimized for standing for the truth. Everyone answered that they will join the system to "chop" money.

Nigerian Christianity is corrupt.

Who can save us?

Nigerians, both Christians, Muslims and others are corrupt.

It’s the myopic nature of most Africans that leads to thinking success can be achieved without hard work

1freshdude:
Shut your trap!
LOL which country is a Christian state GERMANY? FRANCE? UK? where men make out with men? Germany where prostitution is legal? or where nobody cares or wants to hear shit about ANY religion? Dont sit in your wretched chair somewhere in ekpomma without lights and write shit about countries you never been to nor know shit about.

if all those things happen does it stop it from being a christain state?
Did the US not signed gay into law, does that stop it from being a christain state?
Talk with some sense abeg

Ekealterego:
Don't ignore facts bro. Go into that church and ask the people what they expect and why they are fasting, the average person will tell you, they are seeking health, children, money, cars, promotions, jobs, etc. Are these not all prosperity? Don't you know as they are there seekingbtgese things, men in the west are actively sweating in the labs looking for better drugs for malaria and other medicine to cure their problems?

is the person in Nigeria that is seeking car via prayer in Nigeria not working towards it and is the person that in doing research in the developed world not praying to have a successful result? YOU are just critical!

Empty lousy fool, seeking for cheap recognition.

Bidobado:
You mean secular.
Regardless common sense and determination of the people yields development, not some pie in the sky lie.

You are correct, but ignorant people often regard any non-Islamic state as a christian state.

[quote author=humilitypays post=64130261]truth be told, Africans and entire black race are foolish!

Why can't our religious bodies talk to our leaders

VP Osinbajo was and I think still a pastor, but look at the mess going on in a govt he is number 2 and fear can't let him tell his boss that he is messing up!

Why can't all the GOs and CEOs of the churches summon courage and tell these useless politicians that they are messing up the nation

You said the TRUTH. I keep telling my friends that churches are springing up while factories are folding up. DO YOU THINK THAT NIGERIA CAN PROSPER? Go to Toyota and Iyana Isolo Industrial Estate you see ware house for imported goods. Go to Oregun you will weep. Oregun is an industrial estate but it has been converted to church estate. You see churches like Christ Embassy, Daystar, Pastor Chris Okotie's church etc occupying land. We need to Wake up. NO SHORTCUT TO SUCCESS. HARDWORKING PAYS.

When you are hungry after fasting 50 days... Its easier to be manipulated

majekdom2:
is the person in Nigeria that is seeking car via prayer in Nigeria not working towards it and is the person that in doing research in the developed world not praying to have a successful result? YOU are just critical!

Praying? Really praying for a successful result? Thats the fastest way to get fired here. Just tell your boss you are praying about a task he gave you!

Bidobado:
How come the so called Men of God in those countries have never prophesied about who is going to win the elections especially in the US.
Let's not lie to ourselves, religion is actively involved in the state affairs of Nigeria and it hasn't done us any good.

did you go to all the US churches before the election? You just sit and make silly assumptions. However you made valid points about religion being active in the state of affairs. Doing good or not is depended on the people not religion! Stop blaming a concept, this has always been my point. Blame the people.. you, me and everyother person!

majekdom2:
@ first bolded, you are being silly and even as you claim to be well travelled, I can't attribute intelligence to your posts. I careless if you are a pastor. You mentioned " you" in an earlier post and I said, you should mention a " you" that you personally know. If you don't have any personal relation with a "you" it will be silly to make that assumption. @ second bolded, a church is in 190 nations, if they are silly, do you think the developed nations would have given them access to their countries? @ are the churches not applying principles that work. You had an observation, have you bothered to deeply relate it with Africa? We have a people problem not churches or religion. What is the one thing in common.. you are not making sense if you are not saying the one thing in common? You see that you are just critical over nothing. We have a people problem and you are just one example. The type that is critical about a cause without reason. The judgemental type. The type that mentions "you" without knowing the "you". The type that boasts about being around the world, yet not solving people' problem but looking for mistakes. The type that believes there is something someone or something is not doing right but yet can't mention the thing. You are simply confused! Work on yourself dude!

I am not boasting, I have stated facts which you provoked me into, so why are you complaining?. I am contrasting and comparing based on my observations and my experince in life and mase deductions. You don't have to agree sir. If you say we have a people problem, how did our stern belief in religion make us better? Don't you think all those prayers we shout on our megaphones and loudspeskers causing noise pollution should at least make us better since we constitute at least 45-50% of the total population of Nigeria?
Half of your rants suffer for reason.

Freeze has never been relevant. I only pity people who listen to him.

ericmani:
if all those things happen does it stop it from being a christain state?
Did the US not signed gay into law, does that stop it from being a christain state?
Talk with some sense abeg

LOL, according to the bible, prostitution is a way of life...emulate it!
According to the bible a man sleeping with a man is so beautiful, let them declare their love at hill tops and pay tithes to the Lord.
According to the Bible you dont have to give a Bleep about religion, live in the way that you like, divorce who ever you want (squeeze for child support)

Everybody needs to say Halleluyah at this point.


Guy you are dumb, VERY VERY!

There is a difference between an Islamic state, A Christian state, and a Secular state. Didnt you go to school?

I can bet that you are a christ-embassy member, uah foolishness nah next level!

majekdom2:
who is giving empty hopes. Which church tells you not to work but eat? My church tells me a man that can't work should not eat. You are not making sense really. You keep going up and down not addressing what I countered. Again, is church the problem or the people? Is religion the problem? Before religion came, were you forefathers not selling their brothers as slaves. Were the whites not fighting over which territory to colonise because of the obvious mental laziness? Think man. Go back time line you will see what the problem is

So, when you are take sick people to the church to receive Miracles and publishing them instead of raising funds for real medical interventions, you are not giving empty hopes right?

Geetrix:
When you are hungry after fasting 50 days... Its easier to be manipulated

I KINDA AGREE!

Ekealterego:
I am not boasting, I have stated facts which you provoked me into, so why are you complaining?. I am contrasting and comparing based on my observations and my experince in life and mase deductions. You don't have to agree sir. If you say we have a people problem, how did our stern belief in religion make us better? Don't you think all those prayers we shout on our megaphones and loudspeskers causing noise pollution should at least make us better since we constitute at least 45-50% of the total population of Nigeria?
Half of your rants suffers for reason.

I didnt see any fact.. "one thing in common", "principle that work" "you"... you didn't make any sense at all. What's the one thing in common? What's the principle- Hardwork? Are the churches not preaching Hardwork? Who is the "you" that you know sleeps in the church without working waiting for a miracle. when you answer these, you may be termed as sensible but obviously you have no answers.

kolawoleibukun:
make una shine eyes oh all these pastors na thief oh.

make una see wetin muslims do jews oh. herdsmen day kill us all these pastors no day gree talk oh. they are devil oh
we go soon finish for this country o

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Your stupidity is at industrial level.

This guy is sent from the pit of HELL!!!

Pity

Mad man on loose