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Re: Is Sense Finally Falling On The Igbos And The Yorubas? by adeolakemi: 6:22am On Jan 17, 2018
ycat:
@ Op, this is not fair to Yoruba. It's on this nairaland people have said "Yoruba should come out and say they don't like to be insulted" because it took Yoruba a long time before we started responding to the insults. We don't need threads like this anymore as they don't always end well. I really want to believe this thread wasn't created for bashing but out of goodness of your heart and you just don't know any better. So if that's the case, you have to go to the root cause of the problem and then watch and see who is doing what here even now. For you to just lump everyone together is disingenuous and hypocritical. Prove me wrong please by watching this thread and others like it to see who is always the first to take a swipe and cheap shots at the other, and then update us on your findings. This shouldn't be a topic for anyone who has been on nairaland past two weeks, an honest person would know not to lump Yoruba and ibos together as far as tribalism on nairaland is concerned, one is launching offence by the hour while one struggles to respond to 1 out of 10 insults. Could it be that this is to completely silence Yoruba? It smells, looks and sounds like it. Should Yoruba now be doormat because Nigeria needs to be one? Let's learn to tell the truth always or keep our mouths shut. The day we start to tell the truth as it is, is the day we start to address the issue from the ground up.
please check this a Yoruba boy just fired the first shot what do you say now?
Re: Is Sense Finally Falling On The Igbos And The Yorubas? by adeolakemi: 6:30am On Jan 17, 2018
ycat:
You must think that I'm one of those spineless Yoruba you can guilt-trip. I don't care about what you think or say and I won't condemn it either cos he responded to one of yours. Like I said don't start tribal slurs or try to bully others over their choice and there won't be any.
kia typical afonja too unstable ..you requested op to find out the tribe to make the first shot unfortunately you tribe man did now you are swinging like a pendulum bell
Re: Is Sense Finally Falling On The Igbos And The Yorubas? by Ayoemrys(m): 7:29am On Jan 17, 2018
Most Of Those Peaple Fighting Are Still In The Village, Come To The City And See How Igbo And Yoruba Marrying Eachoda, You All Have No Future, Instead Of You To Come Together And Reason Together On How To Restructure Those Wicked Leaders,you Are Here Bashing Eachother, Fools
Re: Is Sense Finally Falling On The Igbos And The Yorubas? by EarthXmetahuman: 8:59am On Jan 17, 2018
OneCorner:
Mumu. So na awolowo pack 2million idiots to war abi.
Or u expect awolowo to sit and let a set of uncircumcised pigs from d east ravage through his ancestral land all in d name of coming to Lagos?
You get brain well well. But greed no go gree make u see front.
flat head logic

fold your hands as we conquer your land and kill your people.
Re: Is Sense Finally Falling On The Igbos And The Yorubas? by daveson2020(m): 9:30am On Jan 17, 2018
grin grin nnamdi kanu have open their eyes though I don't trust the double standard decendants of AWO
Re: Is Sense Finally Falling On The Igbos And The Yorubas? by musicwriter(m): 11:51am On Jan 17, 2018
It's only on Nairaland you see such. Islam is the reason the North and South-west feel comfortable with themselves.

Yoruba's even like Igbos. What part of Yoruba land aren't Igbos everywhere? There're even Igbos in farmlands all over Illesha, I believe in Ogun state. There've never been an ethnic crises between the two. I have lived in Lagos for over 20 years and never quarrelled with a Yoruba man. They don't even care where you come from or what you do, once you pay him the house rent on time and you don't make trouble.

Islam is the only reason they work together, exactly how a Christian from the North,South,East,West would want to work with fellow Christians everywhere. Unfortunately, Christians in the South-west aren't the ruling class.
Re: Is Sense Finally Falling On The Igbos And The Yorubas? by Oblang(m): 1:11pm On Jan 17, 2018
perez100:
How can you explain this? A Yoruba man resisted the killing of one Igbo man, and yet another Yoruba man promoted the deaths of 2 million Igbo children and their people are boasting about it till date, and you expect Igbos to keep the civil war behind them? Did they think they were building love when they kept reminding Igbos for years that they cannot rule this country? What is happening today was allowed to grow for decades after the civil war. No single Yoruba man condemned Awolowo policy of starving millions of children and women to death. The worst is, they boast about it for years. So, this is love?
Ur mumu brain no condemn ojukwu that led ur ancestors to war, na awolowo una dey blame. U dey fight war and expect to be fed by those u are fighting. Ur brain no tell u say na Nigeria dey feed u b4 taking up arm against Nigeria..
Re: Is Sense Finally Falling On The Igbos And The Yorubas? by Oblang(m): 1:19pm On Jan 17, 2018
musicwriter:
It's only on Nairaland you see such. Islam is the reason the North and South-west feel comfortable with themselves.

Yoruba's even like Igbos. What part of Yoruba land aren't Igbos everywhere? There're even Igbos in farmlands all over Illesha, I believe in Ogun state. There've never been an ethnic crises between the two. I have lived in Lagos for over 20 years and never quarrelled with a Yoruba man. They don't even care where you come from or what you do, once you pay him the house rent on time and you don't make trouble.

Islam is the only reason they work together, exactly how a Christian from the North,South,East,West would want to work with fellow Christians everywhere. Unfortunately, Christians in the South-west aren't the ruling class.
How do u mean by christian in the se ain't the ruling class?
Re: Is Sense Finally Falling On The Igbos And The Yorubas? by musicwriter(m): 2:02pm On Jan 17, 2018
Oblang:
How do u mean by christian in the se ain't the ruling class?
The governors, ministers, local government chairmen, senators, etc, appear to be mostly Muslims or people practicing our traditional religion.
Re: Is Sense Finally Falling On The Igbos And The Yorubas? by dangermouse(m): 2:06pm On Jan 17, 2018
The people up north understood this so long ago by using the British method of divide and rule long after the end of colonialism.
It's both only between the ibos and Yoruba,but all other tribes in Nigeria.
They gain power and easily have their way by causing divisions among ethnic,religious and sectoral lines.

It is called divide and rule.

The moment all tribes rise up above this,then this country will have hope.
Re: Is Sense Finally Falling On The Igbos And The Yorubas? by omaar12(m): 2:08pm On Jan 17, 2018
Boleyndynasty2:
It's already going down cheesy... I swear most of the Igbo's and Yoruba's here on nairaland are sick,when asked why they keep fighting and insulting each other what will they say? See how they're slowly messing up a nice thread with their usual stupidity and fight over nothing.
The Igbos Hold A Grudge The Fact That They Dont Pay It Back Bloodily Like Fulani's Doesnt Mean They Would Let Things That Happened 50-60 Years Ago Just Slide, It Information Has Been Passed Down For Generation To Generation. Until The Yoruba's Are Truly Remorseful For What They Did, There Is Not End In Sight For The Grudge. The Case Of Hausa Fulani Apologetic Or Not The Grudge Has Been Buried Deep Within It Can Never Be Erased. The End In Sight Is When This Shithole Republic Split. Which I Think It Will.
Re: Is Sense Finally Falling On The Igbos And The Yorubas? by gists: 2:25pm On Jan 17, 2018
musicwriter:
It's only on Nairaland you see such. Islam is the reason the North and South-west feel comfortable with themselves.

Yoruba's even like Igbos. What part of Yoruba land aren't Igbos everywhere? There're even Igbos in farmlands all over Illesha, I believe in Ogun state. There've never been an ethnic crises between the two. I have lived in Lagos for over 20 years and never quarrelled with a Yoruba man. They don't even care where you come from or what you do, once you pay him the house rent on time and you don't make trouble.

Islam is the only reason they work together, exactly how a Christian from the North,South,East,West would want to work with fellow Christians everywhere. Unfortunately, Christians in the South-west aren't the ruling class.
You see, you people think you know the yoruba culture. By the statement above, it show you know very little or maybe you are young.
Let me educate you a bit. Uptil this very moment, there has never been a Muslim governor in both Ekiti and Ondo.

Before Aregbesola became the governor, Osun has never had a Muslim governor. Oyinlola was the last governor of Osun state. himself and his deputy were both christians. Similar story can be said in Ogun state. Before Amosu, all Ogun state governors from 1999 were christians. So you see, your point about Christian have not been in rulling class is completely false. In Oyo, the governors have been alternating between Muslims and Christian. Lagos is the only exception with Tinubu and Fashola both being Muslims. Also, tell me 5 Yoruba muslim ministers since 1999. Most ministers from SW have been Christains.

BUT there lies the beauty of Yorubaland, did you ever hear the Muslims in the other Yoruba states complain for all these years? WE JUST DON'T GIVE A DAMN ABOUT THE RELIGION of the governor as long as s/he delivers. If you don't deliver, you get booted out irrespective of your faith. We don't see it as injustice and it is not an issue for us until FFK tried to plant the evil of politics of religion in 2015

This is what flat-head ipob yoots are now trying to catch on by saying its the yoruba muslims that are the problem. They try to warm their ways back to the hearts of Yoruba christian by stylishly instigating them against the Yoruba Muslims.

But it has failed and will continue to fail because in every family in our land both religions are very well represented and naturally we tolerate one another. A virture that no other region in country is blessed with
Re: Is Sense Finally Falling On The Igbos And The Yorubas? by Oblang(m): 2:44pm On Jan 17, 2018
musicwriter:
The governors, ministers, local government chairmen, senators, etc, appear to be mostly Muslims or people practicing our traditional religion.
Says who? It is all balanced. Tinubu is a muslim, Obj is a christian..There are Christian governors as well as Muslim governors....Even awo was a christian...
Re: Is Sense Finally Falling On The Igbos And The Yorubas? by maestroferddi: 2:52pm On Jan 17, 2018
ycat:
You can't help me because you are not wwimpartial. You are quoting the innocent # 7 comment when #4 is the first to take a swipe over other's constitutional right. Go over them again. When did selling spare part become an insult or ipob the name given to your organization become a curse? Blaming people for voting their preferred candidate is the bully side on the other hand. Like I said, any thread along this line should be banned because it's never going to happen. We all can be civil in our separate lanes.
I dont like folks who insult other people's intelligence by reasoning upsided down.


You perjoratively referred to Igbos as parts sellers and Ipob but have the
Re: Is Sense Finally Falling On The Igbos And The Yorubas? by musicwriter(m): 3:07pm On Jan 17, 2018
gists:
You see, you people think you know the yoruba culture. By the statement above, it show you know very little or maybe you are young.
Let me educate you a bit. Uptil this very moment, there has never been a Muslim governor in both Ekiti and Ondo.

Before Aregbesola became the governor, Osun has never had a Muslim governor. Oyinlola was the last governor of Osun state. himself and his deputy were both christians. Similar story can be said in Ogun state. Before Amosu, all Ogun state governors from 1999 were christians. So you see, your point about Christian have not been in rulling class is completely false. In Oyo, the governors have been alternating between Muslims and Christian. Lagos is the only exception with Tinubu and Fashola both being Muslims. Also, tell me 5 Yoruba muslim ministers since 1999. Most ministers from SW have been Christains.

BUT there lies the beauty of Yorubaland, did you ever hear the Muslims in the other Yoruba states complain for all these years? WE JUST DON'T GIVE A DAMN ABOUT THE RELIGION of the governor as long as s/he delivers. If you don't deliver, you get booted out irrespective of your faith. We don't see it as injustice and it is not an issue for us until FFK tried to plant the evil of politics of religion in 2015

This is what flat-head ipob yoots are now trying to catch on by saying its the yoruba muslims that are the problem. They try to warm their ways back to the hearts of Yoruba christian by stylishly instigating them against the Yoruba Muslims.

But it has failed and will continue to fail because in every family in our land both religions are very well represented and naturally we tolerate one another. A virture that no other region in country is blessed with
You missed the point. I' am not even interested in religion.What I pointed out is the reason I think it's easier for North to work with South-west and vise versa. I' am not talking about or even interested in intra politics in South-west.

Every ethnic group love themselves as much as Yorubas love themselves, though Yorubas seem to bond more with each other.
Re: Is Sense Finally Falling On The Igbos And The Yorubas? by Mariangeles(f): 3:09pm On Jan 17, 2018
ycat:
You can't help me because you are not impartial. You are quoting the innocent # 7 comment when #4 is the first to take a swipe over other's constitutional right. Go over them again. When did selling spare part become an insult or ipob the name given to your organization become a curse? Blaming people for voting their preferred candidate is the bully side on the other hand. Like I said, any thread along this line should be banned because it's never going to happen. We all can be civil in our separate lanes.
You're not honest being honest ..
Re: Is Sense Finally Falling On The Igbos And The Yorubas? by musicwriter(m): 3:16pm On Jan 17, 2018
Oblang:
Says who? It is all balanced. Tinubu is a muslim, Obj is a christian..There are Christian governors as well as Muslim governors....Even awo was a christian...
Christians in South-East and South-west haven't exploited religion to pursue political gains. Unlike, Islam. Buhari himself is credited as saying "Muslims should only vote for Muslims".

Indeed, people like Fayose, FFK, are pro-South-East because they're Christians. Get it?
Re: Is Sense Finally Falling On The Igbos And The Yorubas? by goestohell: 3:24pm On Jan 17, 2018
zendy:
Igbos and Yorubas really should not be in one country. It is just the accident of colonialism that made it so.

Personally, I believe that Yorubas share a common destiny with the North, these are the real Nigerians.

It is the destiny of Igbos and and their kindred minorities to have their own separate country
By "common destiny" I'm guessing you are referring to the common attributes of laziness, street begging, illiteracy, religious violence and intolerance, corrupt Babanriga wearing kleptomaniacs.

I agree with you. It's hard to say which of the two between Yorubas and Hausa excels in backwardness.

Yorubas should be made a case study in proof of the theory that education will not stop a people from embracing ignorance, if ignorance happens to be their natural genetic inclination. How else can one make sense of the mindless support Dullar-dinho still enjoys amongst the supposedly educated Yorubas, inspite of all the crimes against humanity that have happened on his watch.
Re: Is Sense Finally Falling On The Igbos And The Yorubas? by Danladi7: 4:10pm On Jan 17, 2018
musicwriter:
It's only on Nairaland you see such. Islam is the reason the North and South-west feel comfortable with themselves.

Yoruba's even like Igbos. What part of Yoruba land aren't Igbos everywhere? There're even Igbos in farmlands all over Illesha, I believe in Ogun state. There've never been an ethnic crises between the two. I have lived in Lagos for over 20 years and never quarrelled with a Yoruba man. They don't even care where you come from or what you do, once you pay him the house rent on time and you don't make trouble.

Islam is the only reason they work together, exactly how a Christian from the North,South,East,West would want to work with fellow Christians everywhere. Unfortunately, Christians in the South-west aren't the ruling class.
Another stupid attempt by a bittered Igbo to incite Yoruba Christians against the Muslims.

Now explain these:

why no Igbo Christian leader blasted nnamdi KANU during an onslaught on the Yoruba pastors

why Azikwe an Igbo Christian worked with tafawa balewa


how do you explain Yoruba Muslims overwhelming vote for GEJ in 2011?........

how many southwest governors are currently muslims and Christians.Don't forget that the second most powerful Yoruba man alive today is a christian.
Re: Is Sense Finally Falling On The Igbos And The Yorubas? by Oblang(m): 4:22pm On Jan 17, 2018
musicwriter:
Christians in South-East and South-west haven't exploited religion to pursue political gains. Unlike, Islam. Buhari himself is credited as saying "Muslims should only vote for Muslims".

Indeed, people like Fayose, FFK, are pro-South-East because they're Christians. Get it?
Forget fayose and ffk. Those ones are only doing what they are doing for political reason....
Re: Is Sense Finally Falling On The Igbos And The Yorubas? by musicwriter(m): 4:49pm On Jan 17, 2018
Oblang:
Forget fayose and ffk. Those ones are only doing what they are doing for political reason....
There you are!. That's exactly what the North do all the time. Imagine whole Christians in the South-west doing the same. That's what I' am talking about.
Re: Is Sense Finally Falling On The Igbos And The Yorubas? by Ayomideen(m): 5:01pm On Jan 17, 2018
I love this

Thank You OP
Re: Is Sense Finally Falling On The Igbos And The Yorubas? by Danladi7: 5:24pm On Jan 17, 2018
musicwriter:
You missed the point. I' am not even interested in religion.What I pointed out is the reason I think it's easier for North to work with South-west and vise versa. I' am not talking about or even interested in intra politics in South-west.

Every ethnic group love themselves as much as Yorubas love themselves, though Yorubas seem to bond more with each other.
Your thought is wrong!

GEJ loss and the voting pattern that led to it really pained you Igbo people. You started popularizing this thought among you shortly after GeJ lost election which is the first time Yoruba and the north will work together political ly!


Going down the history it has always being Igbo people and the north working together...

1959=Azikwe/balewa versus Awolowo

1979=shagari/ekwueme versus Awolowo

1983=shagari/ekwueme versus Awo

1983=Ojukwu (the political leader of Igbo people) contested as senator under northern party of NPN.

1993=Tofa(Igbo voted for Tofa against Abiola)

1999=Igbo voted for OBJ,a northern candidate not Olu false,the Yoruba's candidate

1995=Arthur nzeribe was busy campaigning for Abacha
Re: Is Sense Finally Falling On The Igbos And The Yorubas? by robotix: 5:40pm On Jan 17, 2018
Kai.. It will never be well with all of you that have turned this thread into tribal war. Your house will be war torn you fools.

Get a life.
Re: Is Sense Finally Falling On The Igbos And The Yorubas? by ycat: 5:56pm On Jan 17, 2018
@ Mariangeles, maestroferddi & adeolakemi,

You attention seeking mooks have now crawled out to play because you saw a crack, get back in your hole, I'm on a mission to separate boys from men. You have been fed hatred from wombs and can't know what truth is. You better believe it, once you draw the first blood by kicking first whether low or high, you know longer have control over any response though the owner of nairaland who happened to be Yoruba has made it possible for you to do this and get away with it. Enough of your gutter wash, I'm about solution to your lunacy now and fast.
Re: Is Sense Finally Falling On The Igbos And The Yorubas? by musicwriter(m): 7:15pm On Jan 17, 2018
Danladi7:
Your thought is wrong!

GEJ loss and the voting pattern that led to it really pained you Igbo people. You started popularizing this thought among you shortly after GeJ lost election which is the first time Yoruba and the north will work together political ly!


Going down the history it has always being Igbo people and the north working together...

1959=Azikwe/balewa versus Awolowo

1979=shagari/ekwueme versus Awolowo

1983=shagari/ekwueme versus Awo

1983=Ojukwu (the political leader of Igbo people) contested as senator under northern party of NPN.

1993=Tofa(Igbo voted for Tofa against Abiola)

1999=Igbo voted for OBJ,a northern candidate not Olu false,the Yoruba's candidate

1995=Arthur nzeribe was busy campaigning for Abacha
Igbos voted for Abiola. In fact, he won convincingly all over the nation.

What the data you sent in actually proves is that Northers understand how to play politics more than any other ethnic group. In other words, they know how to use South-East or South-west whenever it would help them climb to power.

The question is; how are they able to do that? I suggested religion. If not religion, let me know; how are they able to use the South-East or South-west?
Re: Is Sense Finally Falling On The Igbos And The Yorubas? by PenisCaP: 7:31pm On Jan 17, 2018
Boleyndynasty2:
It's already going down cheesy... I swear most of the Igbo's and Yoruba's here on nairaland are sick,when asked why they keep fighting and insulting each other what will they say? See how they're slowly messing up a nice thread with their usual stupidity and fight over nothing.
Tell urself the truth this thread was going fine until the coneheaded falling demons staryed insult.
Re: Is Sense Finally Falling On The Igbos And The Yorubas? by Guestlander: 7:33pm On Jan 17, 2018
goestohell:
By "common destiny" I'm guessing you are referring to the common attributes of laziness, street begging, illiteracy, religious violence and intolerance, corrupt Babanriga wearing kleptomaniacs.

I agree with you. It's hard to say which of the two between Yorubas and Hausa excels in backwardness.

Yorubas should be made a case study in proof of the theory that education will not stop a people from embracing ignorance, if ignorance happens to be their natural genetic inclination. How else can one make sense of the mindless support Dullar-dinho still enjoys amongst the supposedly educated Yorubas, inspite of all the crimes against humanity that have happened on his watch.
Natural genetic inclination! Perhaps acting first and thinking next is your own genetic inclination. Didn't ibos support a clueless Jonathan? Is there not a PDP controlled Yorubas state? Compressed and flattened brain does make for proper thinking.
Re: Is Sense Finally Falling On The Igbos And The Yorubas? by Mariangeles(f): 7:34pm On Jan 17, 2018
ycat:
@ Mariangeles, maestroferddi & adeolakemi,

[s]You attention seeking mooks have now crawled out to play because you saw a crack, get back in your hole, I'm on a mission to separate boys from men. You have been fed hatred from wombs and can't know what truth is. You better believe it, once you draw the first blood by kicking first whether low or high, you know longer have control over any response though the owner of nairaland who happened to be Yoruba has made it possible for you to do this and get away with it. Enough of your gutter wash, I'm about solution to your lunacy now and fast.
[/s] You lot reek of vulgarity!
Next time...try to make sense.
Re: Is Sense Finally Falling On The Igbos And The Yorubas? by Danladi7: 12:58am On Jan 19, 2018
musicwriter:
Igbos voted for Abiola. In fact, he won convincingly all over the nation.

What the data you sent in actually proves is that Northers understand how to play politics more than any other ethnic group. In other words, they know how to use South-East or South-west whenever it would help them climb to power.

The question is; how are they able to do that? I suggested religion. If not religion, let me know; how are they able to use the South-East or South-west?
you are a big liar!

Abiola didn't win all Igbo state!

Exactly,not use,but allied with thee north more.
Re: Is Sense Finally Falling On The Igbos And The Yorubas? by musicwriter(m): 1:34am On Jan 19, 2018
Danladi7:
you are a big liar!

Abiola didn't win all Igbo state!

Exactly,not use,but allied with thee north more.
He musn't win in every Igbo state to be said to have won there.
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