scholes0:


It would appear so on the surface.

But the Igals instead trace their origin to faraway Taraba state.
Very funny.

RedboneSmith:


I knew you were gong to say that. Ajo, Esusu. Do you think the Yoruba borrowed one from an external language?

RedboneSmith:


LOL. Okay. This is an old argument on NL. I don't have any interest in rehashing it. I said what I said, and I still believe I was right.

scholes0:


Ajo and Esusu are the same thing. In Yoruba.

I can replace one with the other, anywhere in yorubaland.

scholes0:
Isn't "SOSO" the Yoruba word for Only?

ken2baba:
lol

That's clearly an igbo word


Soso gi = only you

GavelSlam:
Akara is the same meaning in Bahia, Brazil.

The Bahia people just like some Cubans and Haitis worship Ifa and Yoruba gods.

Trinidad and Tobago has some Yoruba influence.

It's safe to say the carribeans were taking from West Africa .

One cannot rule out Igbo presence in such places but the influence of Yoruba is beyond doubt.

IjeleNwa:
alright sir,keep whallowing in your ocean of illusion coupled with a dust made naivity. Am not a tribalist,if the word is gotten from yoruba then I will give it to them.I studied linguistic in school,and I did English as master. You can't know a particular language more than the original speakers of. The language.

scholes0:


Pls this is pure lies.

What is the Igbo word for Kpomo?

scholes0:


Nothing like EGWusi, it is Egusi, and it is it of Yoruba origin.

Igbos are the ones who add GW to words that have vowels following G.

The same way Igbos pronounce the Hausa word for Kolanut “Goro” as GWORO

RedboneSmith:


I clearly remember some Eastern Yoruba people here saying no one says 'Esusu' where they come from. So it isn't general, even if through contact etc, everyone in Yorubaland now understands what it refers to.

Everyone in Igboland also understands and uses Soso. Even if one part uses it more.

VICTORCIZA:
Oga we dey drag anything with Yoruba?
why are guys ready to drag your selves into Igbo stuffs for your dickkk measuring attitude?

aljharem:
So many false statement here. Alaia and moi moi are borrowed words from Yoruba. Until the amalgamation of Nigeria there was nothing like bean in igbo land. The demography does not favour such!!!!. So how did they get food made from beans. Haha!!!!!

IjeleNwa:
are you confused,you spelt "kpomo" in igbo form. Pls spell it in yoruba form before I reply u properly

berrystunn:



Now I understand why they are so poor

BabaIbo:


Argue with fact and not as a pained tribalist
for your info Yoruba borrowed more words from other major tribes than they borrow from yoruba due to shortage in their letters( e.g letter C)

words that yorubas borrowed are: Alubosa, originally alibasa in hausa, ireke(sugarcane originally reike in hausa (sugarcane), rodo(a specie of pepper) is originally a hausa word, egusi, akara and others

aljharem:
So many false statement here. Alaia and moi moi are borrowed words from Yoruba. Until the amalgamation of Nigeria there was nothing like bean in igbo land. The demography does not favour such!!!!. So how did they get food made from beans. Haha!!!!!

GavelSlam:


And all Igbos are wealthy right?

baby124:

Igbos call Egusi melon. Go and ask your elders. No one is arguing Ogiri. It’s not a Yoruba food item. However, Egusi is. It’s not Egwusi either, that will make it the Igbo pronounciation, like how Moin Moin has been bastardized to mai mai.

scholes0:


Soso is Yoruba 101% , go and ask anywhere.

baby124:

Its Ponmo

vioment:
Akara is not bean cake, bean cake is moi moi. Think of it, how many cakes do you eat that are fried; At least, moi moi can be put in the oven.

About the african linage in regards to igbos is interesting, i will be reading more on this.

scholes0:


That is because Esusu is the older term in Yoruba language. Ajo is a recent coined word that simply means “Pull together”
Some older Yoruba words are giving way to newer terms.

Even right now, Ajo has become more popular than Esusu because its meaning make more practical sense to the Younger generation of today.

scholes0:


See this one, no one is arguing the presense of some Arabic and Hausa words in Yoruba due to centuries of contact.. We all know what words in Yoruba are of Hausa origin via Nupe and others.

Besides there are Hausa words of Yoruba origin as well, such as Ashishi (Eshinshin) Housefly, Agwaluma (Agbalumo) African star apple, Alade (Elede) Pig Etc. There is many more.

So Yoruba and Hausa borrowing goes both ways.

The bone of contention here are YORUBA authentic words that have diffused into languages like Igbo which they now claim today lole AKARA, EGUSI, etc.

Very soon Igbos will claim Kpomo, Gele and Ogede.

Just watch.

scholes0:


Soso is Yoruba 101% , go and ask anywhere.

IjeleNwa:
are you confused,you spelt "kpomo" in igbo form. Pls spell it in yoruba form before I reply u properly

Guyman02:
Wah gwaan bredrin, everyting ire ?

Ever heard the word “red ibo ” in Jamaica? Your suspicion is true, “red ibo” was used to refer to the Igbo slaves in Jamaica because of their light skin .
The land of Jamaica witnessed the influx of the Igbo race between 1790 and 1809 during the transatlantic slave trade .
The modern Igbo race dwelt in the Bight of Biafra in Nigeria . It was from here that the Igbos who were kidnapped and sold as slaves by the Europeans were taken to work on plantations .
During this period, the Igbos , due to their inability to speak the language , introduced some of their words which have now become infused in the Jamaican Patois .
Some of these words include:
Unu– You people
Ima oso (Jamaica) Ima osu (Igbo) - to hiss by sucking your teeth
Akara (Jamaica) Akàrà ( Igbo)– bean cake
Soso (Jamaica) Sọsọ (Igbo ) - only

Jamaica’s historical culture cannot be mentioned without the influence of the Igbo’s. The Igbo ’s influenced the culture, music , the pouring of libation , the “ ibo” style, idioms and way of life of the Jamaicans . Their yam festival 'the Jonkonnu' was introduced by the Igbos. There is a town allegedly named after them , the Ibu Town .

The Jamaicans are akin to the ways of the Igbos such that it is not uncommon to see Jamaicans watch Igbo Nollywood movies . Some of their rural areas resemble the Igbo ’s in Eastern Nigeria.
Known for their pride, the Igbos are said to have unwritten rules that even the slave owners were made to abide by. Out of this people came individuals who left a mark in that period. A popular example is author, Olaudah Equiano, who was very instrumental in maintaining law and order among the Igbos in Jamaica during the 1776 Mosquito Shore Scheme. He is also credited as being one of the campaigners of the abolition of slave trade (Google celebrated his 272 birthday last year).

The Igbos were also popular for committing suicides to go back to their homeland. This suicide was what made most slave traders skeptical of having them as slaves.
When they could no longer bear the slavery, 250 Igbo men conspired to kill every white man in the land. Although they failed, their song for freedom cannot be forgotten:

Oh me good friend , Mr Wilberforce, make we free!
God Almighty thank ye ! God Almighty thank ye!
God Almighty, make we free !
Buckra in this country no make we free:
What Negro for to do ? What Negro for to do?
Take force by force! Take force by force!
ALL
To be sure! to be sure! to be sure!

https://m.guardian.ng/life/a-brief-profile-of-the-igbo-people-of-jamaica/
BY NJIDEKA AGBO

Pix: Olaudah -Equiano . Photo credit : Daily Mail

baby124:

Very funny indeed. No other subgroup in the North apart from Okun and the Kwara’s have so many similar Yoruba words in their language. They also seem to have been a roaming group because they ended up in Edo and the East. Igala’s even sing like Yoruba. You need to watch them on YouTube and laugh your ass out.

I suspect they got to their location from Yorubaland, through Edo and into the East before getting to their final destination. Because they roam so much, they could have settled with other groups like they settled with the Igbo and Edos. Those groups may have come from Taraba. The Igala language to Yoruba’s is like an Itshekiri speaking. You can understand every other word. I was surprised when an Igala spoke their language in front of me. Though intonation is different, I can understand or have an idea of what they are talking about.

They probably wouldn’t survive in Yorubaland as a distinct group because the language is not so far off. They would be easily absorbed.