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ONE OF THE CATTLE RANCHES @ AWKA-ETITI IN IDEMILI SOUTH LGA OF ANAMBRA STATE

investnow2013:
ONE OF THE CATTLE RANCHES @ AWKA-ETITI IN IDEMILI SOUTH LGA OF ANAMBRA STATE

Thank you!!!

This is what I was asking about. I am really impressed. I hope more igbos follow suit.

horsepower101:
I haven't heard of anyone doing it. Where are they?

My dad is a retired lecturer but has at least 20 cows being reared for him in d village just for nostalgia sake cos he herded cows as young boy.
These cows all have ropes on their neck,brought out and tied to a stake to feed each morning and returned to the ranch by night,no Bleep!ng open grazing.
The boys who herd d cows on a typical day bring out d cows and tie them to stakes in d bush by morning, proceed to school,bring drinking water for d cows after school in d afternoon, proceed home to do other stuff,then come back in d evenings to return d cows to their ranches.
Apart from a small monthly allowance for their school n upkeep,d herders are compensated thus:Whenever d female cow gives birth,d first offspring belongs to my dad.At d next birth,d offspring belongs to d herder.
So,some of these boys,before they finish secondary school,they are already big boys with a sizeable herd of their own.

omohayek:
The non-participation of southerners (including Igbos) in cattle ranching has nothing to do with any particular skills unique to Fulanis or other northern groups, and everything to do with the fact that the entire south of Nigeria lie in the Tse-Tse fly belt. The trypanosomiasis carried by tse-tse flies is lethal to cattle over long periods, especially the more productive breeds of cattle favored in Europe, the Americas and Australia. The particular breed of cattle raised by the Fulani are more resistant to the effects of the disease, but they are still not completely immune, which is why the Fulani nomads generally only bring their cattle down south for parts of the year, before taking them back north again later.

What all of the above translates into is that the only way any southerners will ever do well in cattle ranching is by buying the necessary ranch lands in the north, and keeping their cattle there. Of course, they'd still face the problem of keeping Fulani nomads from turning the ranches they've bought into "free" grazing lands, as well as the burden of transporting the meat and milk they produce over Nigeria's atrocious transport infrastructure.

In short, this is yet another situation in which the lazy Nigerian preference for tribalistic stereotyping can lead one seriously astray. All this talk of particular tribes being geniuses at "business" is just a way of avoiding any research and hard thinking about what it takes to succeed in a particular field.

Not completely true about d Tse Tse fly stuff.
Our local breed(efi Igbo) though shorter in stature is known to be resistant to trypanosomiasis.

investnow2013:
yes! See some of the Cattle in AWKA-ETITI where we bought our cow owned by an Awka etitiman.

This is quite impressive, we need more of such investments in Igboland.

Blue3k:
I looked at map it seems all of Nigeria and most if sub Saharan Africa fall in belt. It's a big factor but it's can't be only excuse. There's countries like Kenya in belt that produce more cattle and have higher than Nigeria. Tanzania and Ethiopia lag behind a bit in production but have a higher herd population.

You also need to take into account that Kenya and Ethiopia have significant highlands that are free of tse-tse fly infestation. Indeed, that's why the European settlers in Kenya systematically drove out the Kikuyu from their native highland regions in the rift area. It was this policy of expelling Kikuyus and others and forcing them into tse-tse fly infested regions which eventually paved the way for the Mau Mau Uprising decades later.

The only way southern Nigeria will ever be able to support large cattle herds is either by successfully eliminating the tse-tse fly and trypanosomiasis (highly unlikely even under a competent government, as the neighboring countries would still harbor both), or by the development of genetically-engineered cattle which have the complete immunity required.

dokiOloye:
Not completely true about d Tse Tse fly stuff.
Our local breed(efi Igbo) though shorter in stature is known to be resistant to trypanosomiasis.

Resistant, yes, but not immune, and what of the tradeoffs required for these cattle, including - as you yourself mention - their shorter stature? That shorter stature directly translates into lower meat productivity, and we haven't even looked into how trypanosomiasis impacts their fertility rate or the mortality rate of their calves.

If there weren't serious impediments to cattle ranching in the south, why do you think anybody would still be doing business with violent, unpredictable nomads with their ramshackle herds?

dokiOloye:
My dad is a retired lecturer but has at least 20 cows being reared for him in d village just for nostalgia sake cos he herded cows as young boy.
These cows all have ropes on their neck,brought out and tied to a stake to feed each morning and returned to the ranch by night,no Bleep!ng open grazing.
The boys who herd d cows on a typical day bring out d cows and tie them to stakes in d bush by morning, proceed to school,bring drinking water for d cows after school in d afternoon, proceed home to do other stuff,then come back in d evenings to return d cows to their ranches.
Apart from a small monthly allowance for their school n upkeep,d herders are compensated thus:Whenever d female cow gives birth,d first offspring belongs to my dad.At d next birth,d offspring belongs to d herder.
So,some of these boys,before they finish secondary school,they are already big boys with a sizeable herd of their own.

how many kid do they give birth to at once? and how long does it take to maturity.

investnow2013:
ONE OF THE CATTLE RANCHES @ AWKA-ETITI IN IDEMILI SOUTH LGA OF ANAMBRA STATE

Since you have cows you rear, can't you people experiment on adding vegetables & proteinuous plants eg Beans/Cowpea/Groundnuts to their dietary.

Eg, Ugwu, Ukazi, Utashi, Uziza, Bitterleaf, water leaf etc.

I have this believe that Vegetables & Proteinous plants can greatly affect their milk and meat production.


Imhoptep horsepower101 Afam4eva etc, don't you guys think so.


Grass contains mainly cellulose which is carbohydrate based.

Adding Vegetables and Protein plants will improve their meat & milk production.

Warship:
Since you have cows you rear, can't you people experiment on adding vegetables & proteinuous plants eg Beans/Cowpea/Groundnuts to their dietary.

Eg, Ugwu, Ukazi, Utashi, Uziza, Bitterleaf, water leaf etc.

I have this believe that Vegetables & Proteinous plants can greatly affect their milk and meat production.


Imhoptep horsepower101 Afam4eva etc, don't you guys think so.

Americans use soybeans and corn feed to raise their cows

horsepower101:
Americans use soybeans and corn feed to raise their cows

That is why their cows produce more milk and meat.

Grasses are mainly cellulose which are carbohydrate based.

Vegetables and Protein plants will greatly make those cows bigger, fresher, meaty, milky and healthy.

Warship:
That is why their cows produce more milk and meat.

Grasses are mainly cellulose which are carbohydrate based.

Vegetables and Protein plants will greatly make those cows bigger, fresher, meaty, milky and healthy.

You are absolutely right. Even Japanese people that live in a rocky island raise the best cows in the world by using other food sources. Look up Kobe wagyu beef.

horsepower101:
You are absolutely right. Even Japanese people that live in a rocky island raise the best cows in the world by using other food sources. Look up Kobe beef.

OK.

We Igbos must take over cattle industry from the Fulani herdsmen terrorists.

Warship:
OK.

We Igbos must take over cattle industry from the Fulani herdsmen terrorists.

My brother that's exactly why I opened this thread. It's a no brainer. And there is so much money to be made. I am still very surprised a lot of igbos haven't gotten into it.

paucity of land occasioned by high population density

investnow2013:
ONE OF THE CATTLE RANCHES @ AWKA-ETITI IN IDEMILI SOUTH LGA OF ANAMBRA STATE

Is that not Oji efi e me ogu cattle ranch? Aka masket.

Thanks for updating this thread with pictures.

yanshDoctor:
how many kid do they give birth to at once? and how long does it take to maturity.

I no know oo,walahi,but I think its one calf/birth.
Used to join in herding them every Christmas period when I was much younger sha.

Annie939:
hmmmmmmmm maybe they are waiting for there brothers in the south west to start first

Lol see this wicked comment. I don laff my head off, wicked gal

They are already on it. Some of my village people own cows.

Where i served in abia state. I once met some herdsmen in the bush, they said they were from Okenne and an indigene of the village owned the cows (about 45). Most of these herdmen are just workers

omohayek:
The non-participation of southerners (including Igbos) in cattle ranching has nothing to do with any particular skills unique to Fulanis or other northern groups, and everything to do with the fact that the entire south of Nigeria lie in the Tse-Tse fly belt. The trypanosomiasis carried by tse-tse flies is lethal to cattle over long periods, especially the more productive breeds of cattle favored in Europe, the Americas and Australia. The particular breed of cattle raised by the Fulani are more resistant to the effects of the disease, but they are still not completely immune, which is why the Fulani nomads generally only bring their cattle down south for parts of the year, before taking them back north again later.

What all of the above translates into is that the only way any southerners will ever do well in cattle ranching is by buying the necessary ranch lands in the north, and keeping their cattle there. Of course, they'd still face the problem of keeping Fulani nomads from turning the ranches they've bought into "free" grazing lands, as well as the burden of transporting the meat and milk they produce over Nigeria's atrocious transport infrastructure.

In short, this is yet another situation in which the lazy Nigerian preference for tribalistic stereotyping can lead one seriously astray. All this talk of particular tribes being geniuses at "business" is just a way of avoiding any research and hard thinking about what it takes to succeed in a particular field.

Stupid talk. Science is there to battle whatever fly you call it. If the South has such flies, why bring them her so much that through out the year we see cows in the south roaming ? Story!

babdap:
paucity of land occasioned by high population density

False. In cattle rearing nay dairy business, the number of the cows not size of the land is key to profitability. The Netherlands and Argentina are examples of nations that are powerhouses in dairy and beef production.

The thing about cattle rearing and dairy farming (distinct businesses, albeit from same animal) is its long gestation period. It takes approximately 9 months for a cow to procreate. Not everyone has such patience. Another reason is the high cost to entry of the business. Obtaining cows that are profitable and cross-breeding them over the years to enable them take characteristics of indigent cows with disease resistance/harsh weather is an expensive and long process.

The alternative will be a cooperative association. That's how the likes of FrieslandCampina and Arla operate.

It was discussed extensively here: http://www.hotproforum.com/post1329.html?sid=5628e212f281802b9658b8dd1ea65e51#p1329

dokiOloye:
Not completely true about d Tse Tse fly stuff.
Our local breed(efi Igbo) though shorter in stature is known to be resistant to trypanosomiasis.

Those efi Igbo are almost extinct now. Haven't seen them in years.

If we are serious, and we should be because of this herdsmen menace, our animal scientists can find a way of crossbreeding these cows till they find good breeds that can thrive in the south.

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omohayek:
The non-participation of southerners (including Igbos) in cattle ranching has nothing to do with any particular skills unique to Fulanis or other northern groups, and everything to do with the fact that the entire south of Nigeria lie in the Tse-Tse fly belt. The trypanosomiasis carried by tse-tse flies is lethal to cattle over long periods, especially the more productive breeds of cattle favored in Europe, the Americas and Australia. The particular breed of cattle raised by the Fulani are more resistant to the effects of the disease, but they are still not completely immune, which is why the Fulani nomads generally only bring their cattle down south for parts of the year, before taking them back north again later.

What all of the above translates into is that the only way any southerners will ever do well in cattle ranching is by buying the necessary ranch lands in the north, and keeping their cattle there. Of course, they'd still face the problem of keeping Fulani nomads from turning the ranches they've bought into "free" grazing lands, as well as the burden of transporting the meat and milk they produce over Nigeria's atrocious transport infrastructure.

In short, this is yet another situation in which the lazy Nigerian preference for tribalistic stereotyping can lead one seriously astray. All this talk of particular tribes being geniuses at "business" is just a way of avoiding any research and hard thinking about what it takes to succeed in a particular field.

There are tse tse fly resistant cattle breeds, including the common so called ehi Igbo (Igbo cow). Plus, how does the Fulani cow survive in the south? Your point does not have a lot of merit.

horsepower101:
Americans use soybeans and corn feed to raise their cows

Not forgetting that they also add hormones that fatten the cows. And boy, those hormones are not our best friends, healthwise. Also use of hormones is among the reasons American beef is tasteless.

Ofodirinwa:
3. Anyi werre iki te' ogwu ne gbuo oke ikuku (ijiji tse tse) na ahu nnama anyi. Nsobu wu na, i needi ogu nn'ukwu maka ahu nnama burru ibu. I madi ogu i werre iki te' na ahu ga nor na ahu nnama ka 24 hours.

Mbe obula ndi be anyi kwadoro izuwa efi nke ha (otu buru ezigbo ibu), ama mu na ha ga achota ogwu a ebe o n'adighi oke onu. Nde be anyi na ebubata ogwu na obodo di iche iche.

ednut1:
Where i served in abia state. I once met some herdsmen in the bush, they said they were from Okenne and an indigene of the village owned the cows (about 45). Most of these herdmen are just workers

This is correct. My village chief in Abia also owned local Igbo cows (ehi Igbo) herded by northerners. The cows grazed on fallows and not on farms. In contrast, the Fulani who go about desyroying farms and killing people work for Northern cattle owners, mostly fellow Fulanis.

TVAofMS:
Not forgetting that they also add hormones that fatten the cows. And boy, those hormones are mot our best friends, healthwise. The use of hormones is among the reasons American beef is tasteless.

I was not encouraging use of hormones. I was only telling the other guy that cows can eat other food sources outside of just grass.

horsepower101:
Mbe obula ndi be anyi kwadoro izuwa efi nke ha (otu buru ezigbo ibu), ama mu na ha ga achota ogwu a ebe o n'adighi oke onu. Nde be anyi na ebubata ogwu na ododo di iche iche.

lol eziokwu. E eche ka'm ti okwu ke n'ishi ha, ka ha burru sense chota ogwu werre iki gbuo anu tse tse. Ka n'adighi oku onu. Mana ahu-nnama na ahu-madu adidi iche. Nor anyi na ra ogwu, ha werre iki ra ogwu. Nde ne kwo maka 'tse-tse fly, tse-tse fly' adidi serious.