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Re: Reasons Scholars Know Jesus Christ Never Existed by hopefulLandlord: 8:03am On Jan 27, 2018 |
Omudia11: Reading always seem hard for you anyways keep spilling crap and dancing around when challenged 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Reasons Scholars Know Jesus Christ Never Existed by Omudia11: 8:06am On Jan 27, 2018 |
Says the one who's notorious for writing bullcrap hopefulLandlord: |
Re: Reasons Scholars Know Jesus Christ Never Existed by hopefulLandlord: 8:14am On Jan 27, 2018 |
Omudia11: A simple look at your post history compared to mine definitely shows who's more intelligent and respectful between us Oh! Would you help originalkalokalo out by mentioning just a single contemporary account of Jesus? |
Re: Reasons Scholars Know Jesus Christ Never Existed by Martinez19(m): 8:17am On Jan 27, 2018 |
wellmax:Brain rot! He wrote the truth but you never addressed it and resorted to threats. I have always said that there is no hope for stupid people as they will carry there stupidity to the grave. |
Re: Reasons Scholars Know Jesus Christ Never Existed by Omudia11: 8:17am On Jan 27, 2018 |
Only jobless trolls go that far into digging up valueless information. How does my post history advance your life's goals? Are you really that jobless Mr hopefullanlord? hopefulLandlord: |
Re: Reasons Scholars Know Jesus Christ Never Existed by hopefulLandlord: 8:20am On Jan 27, 2018 |
Omudia11: one doesn't need to dig though, you post a lot in a short time, then hibernate and come back to post again; You insult and are usually unnecessarily aggressive towards whoever you're quoting so one doesn't need to do any digging at all to know you lack intellect and respect, it follows your every post I'm just entertaining you right now for the lolz and it keeps this thread up BTW Would you help originalkalokalo out by mentioning just a single contemporary account of Jesus? |
Re: Reasons Scholars Know Jesus Christ Never Existed by Omudia11: 8:23am On Jan 27, 2018 |
You who insult God and his followers 24/7 All day everyday have intellect and respect? Get a life hypocrite! I'm done conversing with you. [s] hopefulLandlord: |
Re: Reasons Scholars Know Jesus Christ Never Existed by hopefulLandlord: 8:28am On Jan 27, 2018 |
Omudia11: You got it all wrong my sweet Amberon, I don't insult "god" and his followers I challenge the idea of god, you'll hardly see me insult people I discuss with but I do insult the idea, if you can't differentiate "Idea" from the person holding it then your problem is worse than I thought; god and Christianity remain ideas as far as I'm concerned, same way you probably see atheism Please, don't stop conversing with me on this thread, I'll kill myself if you do 1 Like |
Re: Reasons Scholars Know Jesus Christ Never Existed by Martinez19(m): 8:29am On Jan 27, 2018 |
joyandfaith:You didn't bring any proof my friend, you are highlighting the powerful influence of a falsehood taken as truth and the great extent of devotion it's foolish followers can give to it. HopefulLandord brought concrete proof. |
Re: Reasons Scholars Know Jesus Christ Never Existed by wellmax(m): 11:00am On Jan 27, 2018 |
Martinez19: Pot calling ketle black. You started with a insult, but to me that's nothing. Why should I address such falsehood and misinformation. History recorded that Jesus did live at a time. The Quran agrees to his existence The Bible foretold his coming, gave a clear and provable account of His life on earth. Many other religion recognise Jesus. You may not believe Him as Lord, Saviour and God. But to completely deny His existence is both folly and self deception. If it suit your sentiments, go on. One day you will see the truth, I pray it will not be too late for you. 2 Likes |
Re: Reasons Scholars Know Jesus Christ Never Existed by Martinez19(m): 11:47am On Jan 27, 2018 |
wellmax:Do you know how many movies and books attest to the presence of Batman? If bible and other holy books are proof of Jesus's existence then Harry Potter novels are proof of Harry Potter's existence. 2 Likes |
Re: Reasons Scholars Know Jesus Christ Never Existed by Omudia11: 1:05pm On Jan 27, 2018 |
Hahahaha.... @ bolded, edakun pls don't die oh.. The thing is this, "God" may just be an idea to you but to born again Christians (and I don't mean church goers or Christians by association) God is not an idea. Christianity is a personal relationship with God and just like every other relationship communication is key. These things are foolishness to any non-christian. But we who are in it know what it is and that's why no true Christian should compromise their faith for anything because truly nothing is worth compromising your faith for. You may keep searching for physical proof of God but I tell you, all that effort would be in vain because you will not find anything which you haven't already seen; reason being that God is a spirit and a spirit is not seen with bare eyes. The best search you can conduct (which will definitely yield results) is neither Google nor Wikipedia search. It's one whose answers you won't find in any history book. Not even one archaeological finding can lead to his discovery because Jesus Christ is risen so his remains cannot be found anywhere on earth. The best search is of your conscience. Do you truly want to know if God exists? Or deep within you, you would rather convince yourself he is non-existent so as to mock his followers. It is easy, if you have a genuine quest to know, then all you have to do is ask. Why resort to books and Google when you can go directly to the source? If you are sincere in your quest and you actually ask God he will reveal himself to you but if not, he won't. I'm not trying to buy you over o, just my two cents. hopefulLandlord: |
Re: Reasons Scholars Know Jesus Christ Never Existed by wellmax(m): 9:28pm On Jan 27, 2018 |
Martinez19: Why did you ignore evidence from history, other 'holy books' by other religions like I stated. Why did you single out The Bible. Keep living in denial, you are only deceiving yourself. I know that deep in your spirit you know the truth. |
Re: Reasons Scholars Know Jesus Christ Never Existed by 4kings: 4:17am On Jan 28, 2018 |
Omudia11:Thor and Odin is part and parcel of the Norse history. Oduduwa or Ogun in yoruba that came to earth from a chain is part and parcel of yoruba history. Zeus is part and parcel of Greek history. Williams Tell(though this is somewhat believable) is part and parcel of swiss history. I could go on and on to mention historical figures of different cultures and tell you their attributes which you wouldn't believe, therefore your "tribe history" argument is not valid. Most Jews don't believe a man existed that walked on water, fed thousands with 5 loaves of bread(supposed to be the most awesome miracle ever) and other attributes given to this "Jesus". From the bible, the works of your "Jesus" was meant to be so popular, for goodness sake He taugt a very large crowd of thousands of people in the mountains, and yet no contemporary writing of him exists. Julius ceaser existed before jesus yet we have a contemporary evidence(especially the coins and sculpture) that he existed. Aristotle and plato existed before Jesus and we have evidence for this when reading about their personal writings and writings from their students in school of athens. Though Socrates existence can be contended. But guess what, Jesus whose works were beyond human imagination and always have a crowd following him does not have any contemporary record of him only stories coming out hundreds of years later. |
Re: Reasons Scholars Know Jesus Christ Never Existed by 4kings: 4:20am On Jan 28, 2018 |
wellmax:Which other "holy books" and when were there written? |
Re: Reasons Scholars Know Jesus Christ Never Existed by 4kings: 4:22am On Jan 28, 2018 |
Omudia11:Most of what the early muslims wrote cam from interaction with the Ebionites and what they believe about Jesus would shock you. Besides, the Qur'an was written centuries after... |
Re: Reasons Scholars Know Jesus Christ Never Existed by Omudia11: 6:08am On Jan 28, 2018 |
It doesn't matter what they see Jesus as. The most important thing is that believe he existed and still exists. 4kings: |
Re: Reasons Scholars Know Jesus Christ Never Existed by Omudia11: 6:26am On Jan 28, 2018 |
Epistles upon epistles. When you give them fact, they resort to fiction. Who apart from the very tribes concerned knew and could bare testimony of the divinity of such people? For example only Yorubas venerate Oduduwa. No one else can attest to his divinity and such is the case with that man "Pan ku" from Asia who allegedly divided the heavens and the earth using a chisel. Lol....really dude? Too many flawed things that I would spend too much time trying to discredit. Do you know that thousands of people were witnesses who came forward to testify of the wonders Jesus Christ did? Which they actually saw with their eyes and could prove? Pls speak with facts. There is no Jew who is in doubt of the divinity or prophethood or even existence of Jesus christ. Like I said Jesus is of the house of David and the Jews have proof of every single biblical account. Just Google "city of David" because that topic is too broad for me to delve into. They even found the site of the second temple recently which Jesus said would utterly destroyed. Like I said there is no single Jew who debunks the existence of Jesus, Never. The just don't attribute a godlike status to him. How many of those historical figures gave accurate predictions of future events like Jesus? None! That's more proof Jesus Is Supreme. 4kings: 1 Like |
Re: Reasons Scholars Know Jesus Christ Never Existed by wellmax(m): 7:01am On Jan 28, 2018 |
4kings: Books by other religions. The Quran tells more about Jesus than Mohammed. |
Re: Reasons Scholars Know Jesus Christ Never Existed by 4kings: 8:27am On Jan 28, 2018 |
wellmax:Do you know how far apart the bible is from the day Mohammed was bor? Centuries bro... That's like saying drawing evidence for Oduduwa because Wole Soyinka wrote about him centuries later. There is no contemporary record of Jesus existence. |
Re: Reasons Scholars Know Jesus Christ Never Existed by 4kings: 8:27am On Jan 28, 2018 |
Omudia11:That's the point there didn't believe only in the gnostic interpretation of who jesus was not a physical person born of a virgin. Jesus was a gnostic concept that got twisted along the line in history. |
Re: Reasons Scholars Know Jesus Christ Never Existed by 4kings: 8:27am On Jan 28, 2018 |
Omudia11:Can you mention one person during Jesus's time as a witness out of the thousands that alledgedly witnessed him apart from those from the bible. The early sect of Ebionites were mostly jews and never belived Jesus existed. Get your facts straight, where did you come up the stats that NO jew disbelieve jesus's existence. On another note, you question Oduduwa's existence based on the fact that it's constrained to a tribe and does not have external testimonies. This is also same for Jesus unless you can bring up just One sect, author or historian(not from the bible) that existed during jesus time to buttress your point. What predictions are you talking about? Is it the prediction that jesus made to his disciple that he would come down from heaven during their lifetime? |
Re: Reasons Scholars Know Jesus Christ Never Existed by OkaiCorne(m): 8:52am On Jan 28, 2018 |
hopefulLandlord: Dear OP, Bible aside. If you are truly looking for sufficient evidence as to the existence or otherwise of Jesus who once lived on earth. Kindly consider these historical and archaeological evidence before concluding on the matter; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCLGbhuLtKE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCLGbhuLtKE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsS5x9_DitU Unless you are saying these experts are liars and you are right... Cheers |
Re: Reasons Scholars Know Jesus Christ Never Existed by wellmax(m): 10:51am On Jan 28, 2018 |
4kings:Abeg go and sleep. Have no time for mindless internet fiddlers. You belief or disbelief WILL NOT change facts. The history of Isreal attested to the existence of Jesus. The Holy Bible foretold and tells about his life and times. Several other books talk about him. Today we are witnesses to His omnipresence and life. A scientist comes from no where and tell us lies, but you choosed to follow him. Believe what you want, the truth doesn't change. I have dignified you with responses enough. I have better use of my time. |
Re: Reasons Scholars Know Jesus Christ Never Existed by wellmax(m): 11:08am On Jan 28, 2018 |
4kings:Oh it's should have been written by Oduduwa before he left the world. Sorry you want contemporary report, let's hope Punch or Vanguard will write about it soon. We can take this joke even farther. Adam never existed Moses was never born Jacob is a fantasy. Jonah, Job are all fairly tales. Are you happy now. Oh peace, trouble 4kings not, let him lie in his folly. |
Re: Reasons Scholars Know Jesus Christ Never Existed by Omudia11: 11:11am On Jan 28, 2018 |
You can't be more Catholic than the pope. Jesus was a Jew and the Jews know this. That s like telling saying Abraham Lincoln wasn't American. Everyone is entitled to their opinions , just not their facts. And the nigga had to quote me twice 4kings: |
Re: Reasons Scholars Know Jesus Christ Never Existed by 4kings: 12:58pm On Jan 28, 2018 |
OkaiCorne:I'm not shocked at this... not at all... your kinds are very funny... Do you know the half-life of a dna? And where did they get the blood for sample? Has any credible scientific institution in any part of the world approved this nonsense? Do you know who Ryon Wyatt is and his many debunked archeological theories? You're believing the words of a man who is seen as a joke in the scientific community, smh. 1 Like |
Re: Reasons Scholars Know Jesus Christ Never Existed by 4kings: 12:58pm On Jan 28, 2018 |
wellmax:You dey vex? At least you know now that the Quoran is not adequate proof for the bible. Do you even know the history of Israel Mr.Man? What other books(apart from those centuries later)? And do you know how many "facts" in your bible that have been debunked and considered by modern christians as metaphors? Today we are witnesses to His omnipresence and life.How? A scientist comes from no where and tell us lies, but you choosed to follow him.Science is based on carefully calculations and deductions, which can be observed and replicated by any intelligent person, stop saying nonsense. The white man came from no where and told you lies and you chose to follow him. Believe what you want, the truth doesn't change.Okay. |
Re: Reasons Scholars Know Jesus Christ Never Existed by 4kings: 12:58pm On Jan 28, 2018 |
wellmax:It seems you're a newbie sha... Adam never existed, yes, The calculations of the timeline written from genesis and numbers all the way to david makes the biblical dating of mankind to be about 6000years old which is scientifically impossible. More so, it's not even mathematically possible for a family of 4 to produce a population 6 billion people in 4000 years.(Ya so Noah and his family are also myth) Most of moses's account are identical to an ancient civilisation called the sumerians... I have debated all these and many more here on Nairaland in time past. You better go make a good research with an open mind. 2 Likes |
Re: Reasons Scholars Know Jesus Christ Never Existed by 4kings: 1:00pm On Jan 28, 2018 |
Omudia11:There are numerous evidence for the existence of Abraham Lincoln, Mr.Man. |
Re: Reasons Scholars Know Jesus Christ Never Existed by OkaiCorne(m): 2:29pm On Jan 28, 2018 |
4kings: Do you have sufficient evidence to counter this? All I see are questions which has answers and proofs over in Israel for the world to see... Do you have any sufficient evidence to counter what I have posted? |
Re: Reasons Scholars Know Jesus Christ Never Existed by 4kings: 2:43pm On Jan 28, 2018 |
OkaiCorne:If you don't understand how those questions counters the video then i won't bother debating with you. |
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