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Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant by AZeD1(m): 7:00am On Jan 28, 2018
saucepan:
Good day. Please I want to know if to live in Gatineau while schooling in Ottawa I will need any form of permit considering my children will be attending school in Gatineau.

Rents look cheaper in Gatineau with finer houses and compounds and I learnt it is just a 15mins trip to Ottawa but the snag is that it is in Quebec, which is a plus as I intend to study French during my studies.

So my question is do I need a permit to cover my children who will attend School there?



Thank you in advance.
You technically don't need any permit but ideally if you work, you'd have to pay tax in Ontario and pay the balance in Quebec. Also you would have to get Quebec insurance for them (except they only attend hospitals in Ottawa) which means you can't call emergency services as they take people to the nearest hospital.
Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant by 9jaAlien: 7:10am On Jan 28, 2018
Racism is the main reason why I probably cannot settle anywhere else than Toronto where over half of the pple there are immigrants. It is like living in a house where the landlord does not live in and you are all tenants. Someone mentioned here that they have had eggs thrown at them and told to go back to their country, which is quite sad.
I sometimes interprete racism as anger, because the ones that usually display it are the unsuccessful ones who believe you have come to deprive them. It's like owning a house and you let a room out to a tenant, sometime later, the tenant buys your house and you are now the tenant, you are bound to feel some form of resentment.
9jaAlien:
Thank you for this reply, I have observed that most times pple are quick to ascribe certain actions that have other justifications as racist. @maternal wants us to admit that Nigeria is a failed state, otherwise we won't be on this thread, makes one wonder which black nation is truly developed and why the outrage when we are referred to as shithole countries, when these are things we say to ourselves in not so many words. Video posts like these make pple paranoid about racism and colour their views about events.

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Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant by optionese: 7:46am On Jan 28, 2018
9jaAlien:
Racism is the main reason why I probably cannot settle anywhere else than Toronto where over half of the pple there are immigrants. It is like living in a house where the landlord does not live in and you are all tenants. Someone mentioned here that they have had eggs thrown at them and told to go back to their country, which is quite sad.
I sometimes interprete racism as anger, because the ones that usually display it are the unsuccessful ones who believe you have come to deprive them. It's like owning a house and you let a room out to a tenant, sometime later, the tenant buys your house and you are now the tenant, you are bound to feel some form of resentment.

Racism is looking at anther human being and believing you are superior to them and that you are insulted about their existence.

The analogy you used is called oppression.

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Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant by saucepan: 8:41am On Jan 28, 2018
AZeD1:

You technically don't need any permit but ideally if you work, you'd have to pay tax in Ontario and pay the balance in Quebec. Also you would have to get Quebec insurance for them (except they only attend hospitals in Ottawa) which means you can't call emergency services as they take people to the nearest hospital.

Thank you. I also read somewhere that children of immigrants are expected to attend French schools. Considering the age and grade of my older children such a change would be drastic.

I am also considering Nepean. Pls which do you think might be easier in the long run considering all factors with cost inclusive but not the major determining factor.

I have to decide soon, so I can reach out to the school boards for their admissions.

Gracia.
Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant by AZeD1(m): 9:01am On Jan 28, 2018
saucepan:


Thank you. I also read somewhere that children of immigrants are expected to attend French schools. Considering the age and grade of my older children such a change would be drastic.

I am also considering Nepean. Pls which do you think might be easier in the long run considering all factors with cost inclusive but not the major determining factor.

I have to decide soon, so I can reach out to the school boards for their admissions.

Gracia.
I don't know anything about immigrants attending French school but I don't believe it to be true.

In my opinion, Nepean or staying in Ottawa would be the best choice initially at least until you settle down. It takes 3 months to get an Ontario health card and you need an Ontario address to get one. You are coming as a student so I don't know if your student insurance covers your kids.
Once you are settled, you can decide on if Gatineau is better and you'd know how to handle the cross border issues.
Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant by A555: 9:04am On Jan 28, 2018
Cold beautiful day in Calgary today.... I just love the seeming desolation in the landscape...

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Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant by A555: 9:07am On Jan 28, 2018
....now to plan to go skiing sometime.... smiley

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Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant by chiobich: 10:06am On Jan 28, 2018
Good morning Canadians. Please is any one who is leaving soon willing to sell off their TV? The one in my bedroom just started misbehaving and I am not looking to start acquiring brand new house appliances if I am to leave Naija this year. Edakun, epp me

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Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant by Amakyzuu: 10:29am On Jan 28, 2018
vcole:
For sure. However that child would only be able to move to Canada under family sponsorship. If I'm not mistaken during the period of sponsoring a family member the sponsor must be on ground in Canada and working. I think you also need 2 or is it 3 consecutive years of having filed taxes here that show evidence of meeting the LICO for the total family size including the intended sponsored applicant .

Good morning vcole, pls can you explain a bit about this family sponsorship or where i can read in detail
Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant by maternal: 12:34pm On Jan 28, 2018
9jaAlien:
Thank you for this reply, I have observed that most times pple are quick to ascribe certain actions that have other justifications as racist. @maternal wants us to admit that Nigeria is a failed state, otherwise we won't be on this thread, makes one wonder which black nation is truly developed and why the outrage when we are referred to as shithole countries, when these are things we say to ourselves in not so many words. Video posts like these make pple paranoid about racism and colour their views about events.

The only people upset about the shithole comments were Africans who live abroad in 1st world nations. Or top African leaders who loot their country's money with a smile on their face. Deep down everyone knows our countries are shitholes, not due to the people, but due to the mismanagement of that country's resources bytheir governments. I've always kept this stance. And for this sitting in oyibo obodo who are about to disagree with me, or claim I'm being too "blunt". I've done the work for you below. There's a link on how to renounce your Canadian citizenship or PR. After completing this, buy a 1 way ticket back home.


https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/application/application-forms-guides/guide-0302-application-renounce-canadian-citizenship-subsection-9-1.html#CIT0302E3

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Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant by Zeewirld: 12:39pm On Jan 28, 2018
Blackbuddy:


Okay for those with a similar career path to mine, let me share my thoughts on how to transit to roles in AML (Anti Money Laundering) based on my experience. I've worked across Inspection/Internal Audit, Internal Control and Investigation/Forensic Audit across 5 banks and ended up specialising\heading a Fraud Investigation unit in the 5th bank before I came to Canada.
So my experiences cut across various fields and banks and knowing how to market my self appropriately here without Canadian experience was key. Apart from identifying/contacting top recruiting firms in banking, I had to understand the local market, what area of expertise is in demand and its requirements and how I can fit into that in-demand field. I've previously shared about my time with Acces Employment and the advantage of newcomer training for skilled international professionals like us, you can read back to get my take on this. I've also recently shared a list of top recruiters, some of whom can get you into the AML world here.
I particularly found Randstad, Robert Half and Hays to be actively recruiting for the major AML employers like BMO, HSBC and RBC for contract positions. CIBC only hires full timers for their AML while BMO sometimes recruits for full time roles. TD and Scotiabank also appear to hire full timers. Most people get their start in AML through contract positions and then wrangle a full time role. Indeed.ca, eluta.ca and LinkedIn are great sources for finding AML roles so you can study the requirements of the job at different levels. I also found networking to be very good while I was at Acces. They would invite senior employees of top employers to come and give us career talks on how their organisations work and how they got their start in their careers as well as what they look out for when hiring for their banks. When you mix with such people, you can grow your network with people working within your field and even meet hiring managers. It all depends on how fast you learn to mix with Canadians and how to effectively sell your self. Please learn about elevator pitch as you research and make enquiries about where to get newcomer training.
Once you get into the system, you are able to grow and switch tangents within the AML group at most banks. I started in AML Investigations and was headhunted to jon the High Risk/Enhanced Due Diligence team. Other depts in AML include Sanctions, Governance, Solutions and Operations. Other career options include Financial Crime Monitoring, Fraud Investigations, Analytics and Financial Intelligence. Wherever your research takes you, just remember that you need not be in a rush but take your time to find that area you`re most comfortable with and put in the work to make yourself ready as the best candidate available for your desired role. Preparation is more important then mere desire so that you are ready when opportunity presents itself. I trust this helps you in getting started, cheers.
. Hello Sir BlackBuddy... I am in awe of your intelligence and also your matured response to all enquiries. May God continue to bless you. I am also a banker and thinking of going in for my ACAMS certification as I have the Nigerian Compliance certification already. Do you think I can proceed with it or hold on? Kindly note that I plan to migrate to Canada in 3 years times
Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant by Omomabo: 12:40pm On Jan 28, 2018
Just to add to this. It wouldn't hurt to read some of the professor's previous research and mention some of the things you gained grom their work and how you feel they can help you when sending your mail to them. I noticed i started getting responses from them when I started doing this. Some even gave me pointers on potential data sources, past research in my area, what can be improved or areas that should be considered which have been helpful. I should mention i applied mostly to Australian and New Zealand schools. Eitherway, it doesn't hurt to learn as much as possible about potential supervisor and their track records academically and supervisory wise. If they feel you are worth it, a lot would fight for you at the admission panel.

The major issue I've had so far is that most of them don't have funding for international students. But now that I have PPR shouldn't be an issue for Canada grin




salford1:

On webpages of schools, most professors would mention their areas of interest and contact details. Some would even give a brief summary of the current research they are working on. Prospective doctoral students approach lots of professor to maximize their chances. It is very similar to searching for a job since this positions are competitive. Some would not reply emails, some would not take students from outside the country, some prefer students from their home countries (they won't mention this though), some would gladly accept the student if they like the applicant's previous academic work and grades etc.
Find example below:

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Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant by maternal: 12:42pm On Jan 28, 2018
9jaAlien:
Racism is the main reason why I probably cannot settle anywhere else than Toronto where over half of the pple there are immigrants. It is like living in a house where the landlord does not live in and you are all tenants. Someone mentioned here that they have had eggs thrown at them and told to go back to their country, which is quite sad.
I sometimes interprete racism as anger, because the ones that usually display it are the unsuccessful ones who believe you have come to deprive them. It's like owning a house and you let a room out to a tenant, sometime later, the tenant buys your house and you are now the tenant, you are bound to feel some form of resentment.

You can't settle anywhere else but Toronto because you don't have that hustler spirit to go and explore the rest of Canada. You like the status quote and that's okay. I've lived in Toronto for years and it's very racist like the rest of Canada. The sad part is other minority communities hate on each other. You think the Chinese community in Markham or Scarborough love and respect the black community in North York ? The whole multicultural thing is just a cover up. Toronto's racism is just covert, while maybe in the west coast is more overt. I prefer overt racism personally. But I'd rather face racism while making 6 figures in Alberta, than face racism in Toronto while barely scraping by. After all I came here to make money not to be liked or live in a multicultural utopia. Lastly, why do Africans come abroad and act like racism/discrimination/tribalism wasn't worse in their home country ? Racism/discrimination in African countries are 100 times worse than abroad.


http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/anti-black-racism-plan-vote-1.4431951

Black Torontonians, the document says, remain significantly more likely to be expelled from school, unemployed, incarcerated, or victimized in hate crimes.

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Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant by maternal: 12:44pm On Jan 28, 2018
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Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant by salford1: 12:45pm On Jan 28, 2018
9jaAlien:
Racism is the main reason why I probably cannot settle anywhere else than Toronto where over half of the pple there are immigrants. It is like living in a house where the landlord does not live in and you are all tenants. Someone mentioned here that they have had eggs thrown at them and told to go back to their country, which is quite sad.
I sometimes interprete racism as anger, because the ones that usually display it are the unsuccessful ones who believe you have come to deprive them. It's like owning a house and you let a room out to a tenant, sometime later, the tenant buys your house and you are now the tenant, you are bound to feel some form of resentment.
Although less fortunate folks tend to be more in the face ttpe of racist, racism really has nothing to do with anger from unsuccessful people neither does it has anything to do with level of education. I have come across different type of closet racists at places of work. These educated and succesful ones are the worst type out there. When i worked in one of the biggest bank in the world when I lived in England, there were racists. Right here in Canada, I have worked with racist guys that clock around $160k a year. Thd closet racist would even tend to favour some other races over another.

Racism does not also depend on location. I first enountered racism at Dagenham in the UK. Dagenham despite being one of the most multicultural areas in the UK is also the stronghold of BNP(a racist political party).

I believe racists have mental health issues. I have always mentioned that immigrants should not let racism determine where or what part of Canada to live in. You would seriously limit yourself in your career by doing that. Nigerians encounter tribalism a lot of times back home but still prosper. Same applies to Canada.

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Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant by salford1: 12:58pm On Jan 28, 2018
maternal:


You can't settle anywhere else but Toronto because you don't have that hustler spirit to go and explore the rest of Canada. You like the status quote and that's okay. I've lived in Toronto for years and it's very racist like the rest of Canada. The sad part is other minority communities hate on each other. You think the Chinese community in Markham or Scarborough love and respect the black community in North York ? The whole multicultural thing is just a cover up. Toronto's racism is just covert, while maybe in the west coast is more overt. I prefer overt racism personally. But I'd rather face racism while making 6 figures in Alberta, than face racism in Toronto while barely scraping by. After all I came here to make money not to be liked or live in a multicultural utopia. Lastly, why do Africans come abroad and act like racism/discrimination/tribalism wasn't worse in their home country ? Racism/discrimination in African countries are 100 times worse than abroad.


http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/anti-black-racism-plan-vote-1.4431951

Black Torontonians, the document says, remain significantly more likely to be expelled from school, unemployed, incarcerated, or victimized in hate crimes.
I did not even see your post before commenting. This is true.

Uneducated (Succesful or Unsuccesful): In your face type of racists. Lots of these ones working in oil fields or redneck areas around the bakken fields. They proudly fly the confederate flag in front of their house or on their trucks.

Educated (Succesful or unsuccessful): Covert or closet racism. This is the worst type. Smile at you, but stab you in the back when they have the chance.

The anti black article from cbc confirms what I previously mention about some racists even preferring other races like (Indians or Chinese) to blacks.

For this, I am inclined to always vote liberal or worst case NDP in elections. Racists fancy conservative parties and are angry the liberal gov is letting in alot of immigrants especially from 3rd workd countries. I have met only one racist that supports the liberal party; hence, provinces led my liberal parties tend to be less racists than conservative ones. NDP was very lucky to win in Alberta. It wouldn't have been possible if votes weren't divided between conservatives PC and conservative Wildrose in the last elections. Both have now merged to become a giant conservative party.

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Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant by rainazoe: 1:02pm On Jan 28, 2018
9 degrees. like living in Jos

DatechMan:
This morning it was 90C.
First time I would throw the garbage in underwears.
It has gone to 60C.
Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant by KrustyKomet: 1:32pm On Jan 28, 2018
All this talk about racisms only makes me lol

I will state categorically that racism is the least of issues that will stand in the way of a success driven immigrant. I'm saying this as a black man who has lived in Canada for several years now.

Come here, develop and demonstrate your skills, become so good in what you do that you cannot be ignored. Doing this alone, you will find that you do not even have time for all the talk and propaganda from race hustlers (people who actually have an interest in fanning the embers of racism for their own benefit) you will also be far removed from whatever stifling concerns such things might present. Not saying it doesn't happen at all.

As has been previosuly stated by others, ethnic discrimination is just as rampant if not more, back in Nigeria.

Personally, ish like this doesn't even come up in my radar, I have lived in and visited several cities in this country and never had any negative experiences in this regard. I also have friends from all races, whites, asians, blacks, hispanics, arabs etc. For the most part Canada is a welcoming place.

This is the least of your worries if you know what you are here for.

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Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant by czaratwork: 1:55pm On Jan 28, 2018
chiobich:
Good morning Canadians. Please is any one who is leaving soon willing to sell off their TV? The one in my bedroom just started misbehaving and I am not looking to start acquiring brand new house appliances if I am to leave Naija this year. Edakun, epp me

grin grin grin. You just made my morning. Let me come and be going before i miss the bus again today. Yesterday i missed 2 because i was on my phone while waiting.

I will continue when i reach my destination.

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Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant by czaratwork: 2:40pm On Jan 28, 2018
Omomabo:
Just to add to this. It wouldn't hurt to read some of the professor's previous research and mention some of the things you gained grom their work and how you feel they can help you when sending your mail to them. I noticed i started getting responses from them when I started doing this. Some even gave me pointers on potential data sources, past research in my area, what can be improved or areas that should be considered which have been helpful. I should mention i applied mostly to Australian and New Zealand schools. Eitherway, it doesn't hurt to learn as much as possible about potential supervisor and their track records academically and supervisory wise. If they feel you are worth it, a lot would fight for you at the admission panel.

The major issue I've had so far is that most of them don't have funding for international students. But now that I have PPR shouldn't be an issue for Canada grin





Thanks for this post. Dunno whether to still wait for @maziude or refer my friends to this thread immediately.
Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant by czaratwork: 2:46pm On Jan 28, 2018
saucepan:


Sorry to reply late. Just to add to all that has been said. Choose a very relevant and interesting topic, develop a research proposal.
First letter of contact should be a polite letter of introduction , introduce yourself, mention your research interest, mention you have met basic requirements which in most instances is a minimum of second class upper for both undergraduate and masters, finally ask if he is accepting graduate students and if so can he contact you as you want to work with him.
Hoping he replies( being that you sounded poilte and all , he will likely reply at least not to be rude). At this stage he asks for a proposal and any other documents he deems necessary.
Reply by sending the documents.
All mails should be brief and polite not solicitous.

Let them do their homework well, check out google. Some kind professors have websites where they have put up guides for securing supervisors. Pray for God's direction to the right person.
One day soon I will share my grad school admission experience ( testimony)
I wish your friends the best. Meanwhile what is their field of study.
As already noted, refer them to the student thread, advise them to read at least from the previous 2 threads then ask any question if confused.

Thanks. One did M Sc in Computer Science while the other is doing her Doctorate in Banking and Finance.
Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant by saucepan: 3:30pm On Jan 28, 2018
czaratwork:


Thanks. One did M Sc in Computer Science while the other is doing her Doctorate in Banking and Finance.

Okay, maziude is your best bet for the one studying computer science but he has been off radar for some time. Let him google, scholarship for phd in computer science in Canada. I always advise PhD students to search for scholarships as there are quite a good number available. The window for fall admissions will soon close. Let them quickly start the research.
The advise to mention the supervisor's previous works is very important and also why you think he is your choice of a supervisor.
Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant by saucepan: 3:32pm On Jan 28, 2018
AZeD1:

I don't know anything about immigrants attending French school but I don't believe it to be true.

In my opinion, Nepean or staying in Ottawa would be the best choice initially at least until you settle down. It takes 3 months to get an Ontario health card and you need an Ontario address to get one. You are coming as a student so I don't know if your student insurance covers your kids.
Once you are settled, you can decide on if Gatineau is better and you'd know how to handle the cross border issues.

Thank you for the very good counsel. Makes sense well.
Imela
Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant by vcole: 4:13pm On Jan 28, 2018
saucepan:

Okay, maziude is your best bet for the one studying computer science but he has been off radar for some time. Let him google, scholarship for phd in computer science in Canada. I always advise PhD students to search for scholarships as there are quite a good number available. The window for fall admissions will soon close. Let them quickly start the research.
The advise to mention the supervisor's previous works is very important and also why you think he is your choice of a supervisor.
i doubt if they would be looking at getting in for fall 2018 though seeing as Jan 31st is usually d deadline. Your advice to read up prospective supervisors' research is very key, not even optional.
Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant by vcole: 4:14pm On Jan 28, 2018
Amakyzuu:

Good morning vcole, pls can you explain a bit about this family sponsorship or where i can read in detail
www.cic.gc.ca type in family sponsorship in the search bar. It's for a citizen or pr to sponsor a family member (one that must have been declared in their family information form during their own pr app).
Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant by vcole: 4:18pm On Jan 28, 2018
@maternal @salford1 @krustykomet @optionese are spot on. Racism in Canada should be low on the list of worries for immigrants. In addition, the increased representation of immigrants in a population does nor translate into "less racism" take the states for an example. If you have ever lived there you would know that racism stares you in the face everytime, everywhere, even if you have proven to be excellent time and timw again there is still a likelihood of you being passed up cos of racism.

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Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant by maziude: 4:20pm On Jan 28, 2018
czaratwork:


Thanks. One did M Sc in Computer Science while the other is doing her Doctorate in Banking and Finance.

Hello Boss,
Sorry for the delay in response. I have been battling with meeting deadlines.

Other bosses have already given the best line of action that your friends might have to consider.

They should contact supervisors in their intended research areas with a few worded email signifying their interests, experiences, the reason why they chose the researcher, attach their transcripts, resume and a list or links to their publications if they have any;at this point there is no need including research proposals unless explicitly asked to do so.
They should contact as many supervisors as possible. They should ask the supervisors the funding criteria too because most schools require that the phd students be funded by their respective research labs.

The above applies to almost all disciplines.
I do not know if your computer science friend has any publication atleast in a conference. If s/he does, /he has a higher chance. But then, s/he just needs to be convincing in her/his mail.
Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant by salford1: 4:48pm On Jan 28, 2018
There are fulani herdsmen in Canada too tongue

The herdsmen control the herds by trucks or ATVs.

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Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant by salford1: 4:52pm On Jan 28, 2018
RBC branch in a very small town in Manitoba.

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Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant by salford1: 4:54pm On Jan 28, 2018
Sheeps on a farm.

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Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant by salford1: 4:55pm On Jan 28, 2018
Wild horses at an abandoned farm yard.

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Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant by salford1: 4:57pm On Jan 28, 2018
A suicidal cat on a farm.

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