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| Re: Regional Autonomy Or Self Determination: A Way Forward For The Yorùbá by Cofactor(op): 8:32pm On Jan 30, 2018 |
ReubenE:I don't see any ethnic card here, all I see was an account of a coup which involves five Nigerian soldiers(four from the Igbo stock and one from the Yorùbá stock). The victims of the coup were mainly Hausa/Fulani and Yorùbá. Third and fourth paragraph nailed it well. There is no hope for a Nigeria with unitary system. It is either regional autonomy or self determination. |
| Re: Regional Autonomy Or Self Determination: A Way Forward For The Yorùbá by jhubril(m): 8:34pm On Jan 30, 2018*. Modified: 2:09pm On Feb 03, 2018 |
[quote author=SIRTee15 post=64645209]Ogbeni, I don't have ur time... This no need to throw banter with u... If u are not proud of your lineage, where ever that is.... Then u are not worth it.... And don't even bother quoting me.... Cos I don't deem u a reply.... [/quote By reading this pure nonsense ,one is compelled to see that even retards can flaunt words that had previously been heard in mad houses. I refuse to follow your silly lure . This is a point for you to ponder. Educated illiterates everywhere. To hell with Your tribal head |
| Re: Regional Autonomy Or Self Determination: A Way Forward For The Yorùbá by jhubril(m): 8:41pm On Jan 30, 2018 |
[quote author=Cofactor post=64645185]If a particular post/article/writeup is detestable to you, after reading it the first time; do not comment on it and do not visit it again. At least, that is what common sense demands. Moreso, this writeup is meant for rational people who understand that Nigeria can not experience development in this present political structure to discuss the alternatives presented by the writer. People like you can read it but it is not for people like you to comment on. [/qu Keeping quiet could have meant that you were a reasonable human being . The Bible says answer a fool. There are educated illiterates like you everywhere playing the tribe game ,insulting the sensibilities of other people. You're a danger to a any decent society and your intellect ,if any ,is made useless by your propensity to lie . |
| Re: Regional Autonomy Or Self Determination: A Way Forward For The Yorùbá by Cofactor(op): 9:21pm On Jan 30, 2018 |
SIRTee15:Please ignore him, I know his type and I believe you do too. |
| Re: Regional Autonomy Or Self Determination: A Way Forward For The Yorùbá by SIRTee15: 9:52pm On Jan 30, 2018*. Modified: 10:53pm On Jan 30, 2018 |
Now another big issue bothering on restructuring amongst yorubas, is whether we can survive without nigeria vis a viz naija delta oil..... Now let's get something clear, all regions in nigeria can survive independent of each other.... Every region is endowed with both natural n human resources required to build a nation..... If only we can turn away from Abuja n look inward..... Every region is indeed blessed.... We should not because of oil insist on this acrimonious union...... It's glaring to even the blind that it's not working...... Thus no gainsaying that Yoruba can survive alone and progress at her own pace towards a prosperous n viable socioeconomic pathway...... I understand that the misgovernance of our present leaders has sowed the seed of doubt among our youth..... But we need to get something clear, the future n prospect of the yoruba nation is bigger than some bunch of clueless n self-serving leaders..... Yoruba fear of the unknown can be best described as the Stockholm syndrome..... We know we are trapped but we feel it's better to survive in this captivity than take our chances n chart a new and independent course..... That's so wrong on so many levels n this mindset must be crushed..... We must liberalize our minds in order to know who we are n what we are capable of achieving as a nation..... Yoruba best days was during the regional era of the 50s..... We achieved a lot of firsts n an unpredecented prosperity...... Those legacies are still very much visible today...... Not because awolowo n co were genius or saints.... No.... Rather they undertook radical initiatives n bold steps that were beyond the scope of their time..... They were men of Vision n mission..... We've all heard about the universal free education embarked upon by Awo.... What we didn't know was as at the time the initiative commenced, there was no money in the vault n the region couldn't afford such project...... No adequate schools to accommodate the huge number of pupils to be enrolled.... there weren't enough teachers.... No adequate uniforms n pupils had to share notebooks in class..... Some felt it will bankrupt the region..... Despite all these seemingly insurmountable problems, the program kicked off and eventually became a phenomenal success...... Also in that era, when the western world wanted us to focus on agriculture....... Awo practically industrialize the whole of ikeja to ilupeju, building numerous Industrial estates...... This remarkable initiative was replicated in so many yoruba towns, such that there no major town in the region that doesn't have its own industrial estate..... When the issue of power tussle along ethnic line reared its ugly head in UI n unilag, Awo simply built a world class university in ife...... As at its completion, it was regarded as the most beautiful campus in Africa...... We achieved all these without any oil money but from resources within our region...... Now what have we achieved with oil money....... Nothing much, I'm afraid.... Then, don't u think it makes sense we go back to a formula that worked for us than stick to an unworkable formula.... I keep saying it, SW was the worst hit with this present unitary govt..... It sets us back, stagnated our development n allowed other regions to catch up..... When we look at things holistically, we've lost more than we received from this unitary system, it is a net loss for SW..... And I think it's time to demand for that which worked for us...... I'll come back n talk about the youths n osinbajo factor..... |
| Re: Regional Autonomy Or Self Determination: A Way Forward For The Yorùbá by Greenback: 7:05am On Jan 31, 2018 |
The op still managed to find a way to heap blame upon the Igbos.. And when the Igbos recently presented an avenue thru ipob,for us southerners to one way or the other tackle these northerners,it was the same yorubas that sounded the loudest everywhere,shouting IPOB THIS,KANU THAT upandan as if Kanu was plotting coup against amala.. Today their god tinubu have sold them for peanuts to mallams now,but they still continue to shout Igbo this,Igbo that,kwantinu. Enjoy ur WAN NAIJIRIYA KWANTIRI oooduancalmdown:sharrap there..you amalas aint going nowhere. It is ONE NIGERIA FOR YOU ALL..YORUBA MUST CONTINUE TO SERVE THEIR HAUSA/FULANI MASTERS ![]() EKU ONE NAIJIRIYA ![]() |
| Re: Regional Autonomy Or Self Determination: A Way Forward For The Yorùbá by zendy: 9:48am On Jan 31, 2018 |
So Yorubas are now considering self determination? These were people who constantly attacked Nnamdi Kanu for his expression of self determination. Now the same Yorubas now think it is a viable option if Nigeria is not restructured? Who is fooling who? Yorubas dont have what it takes to agitate for either restructuring or self determination. The best that Yorubas will do is just make mere pronouncement which will end up as mere words. Their agitation never goes beyond words. Those who should talking about restructuring or self determination are those who have gone beyond talking to actually agitating, people in the SS/SE area |
| Re: Regional Autonomy Or Self Determination: A Way Forward For The Yorùbá by Greenback: 10:12am On Jan 31, 2018 |
Cofactor:chaataap yur mouth there..if someone mentioned the word Afonja now,u will be shouting like a ..... Op made mention of more than a decade long event buh you yorubas keep repeating historic blunders and mistakes even in the 21st century. Biafra in the 60s and ipob now were an attempt to right wrongs and a grand opportunity for us southerners to see the bigger picture for us to address fundamental issues buh the same yoruba beat the loudest drum against them... Op,you surely should've known and highlighted that. zendy: Cofactor:chaataap yur mouth there..if someone mentioned the word Afonja now,u will be shouting like a ..... Op made mention of more than a decade long event buh you yorubas keep repeating historic blunders and mistakes even in the 21st century. Biafra in the 60s and ipob now were an attempt to right wrongs and a grand opportunity for us southerners to see the bigger picture for us to address fundamental issues buh the same yoruba beat the loudest drum against them... Op,you surely should've known and highlighted that. |
| Re: Regional Autonomy Or Self Determination: A Way Forward For The Yorùbá by Cofactor(op): 9:27pm On Jan 31, 2018 |
zendy:We do not talk merely my dear friend, we talk and act until we are fulfilled. That is the difference between us and the rest. Now that we are talking, you should expect action. |
| Re: Regional Autonomy Or Self Determination: A Way Forward For The Yorùbá by Cofactor(op): 9:40pm On Jan 31, 2018*. Modified: 7:56pm On Feb 01, 2018 |
SIRTee15:Thank you. You nail it and I will love to see more of your comments here. You are indeed a true son of the Yorùbáland. I have spoken widely to people about the need for either an autonomous government that have control over resources, internal security, judiciary and make its own laws within the confines of a loose federation of Nigeria or an independent Ọmọlúwàbí country as our means to the collective development and prosperity that we the Yorùbá have been denied for over half a century. Certainly, I will continue to do this even if I am labeled as a Yorùbá separatist. I am born a Yorùbá, raised by Yoruba as a Yorùbá man, will continue to live as a Yorùbá and die a Yorùbá without owing nobody any apology. |
| Re: Regional Autonomy Or Self Determination: A Way Forward For The Yorùbá by knowledgeable: 12:34am On Feb 01, 2018 |
[url][/url] Cofactor:"Rubbish", Igbos perished in their numbers, aided by your kind, for wanting to point out to your kind, middle belt people and the rest that the war was levied against them for being Igbo and Christians....only to fell on deaf ears. The best regional restructured government could have come out of Aburi, but the Tiv man reneged. Every body were shouting one Nigeria or nothing. Just look at Nigerians and Nigeria after 50 years of war. Igbos believe in one Nigeria 2× more than any other major group in Nigeria because of their deep penetrating engaging with other Nigerian cultures through commerce, travelling etc. They are more interested in the nuts and bolts of one Nigeria all these non thinking groups have being shouting of. |
| Re: Regional Autonomy Or Self Determination: A Way Forward For The Yorùbá by Cofactor(op): 8:20am On Feb 01, 2018 |
knowledgeable:If you are not a good friend of history, please do hide your ignorance by not commenting on this piece. |
| Re: Regional Autonomy Or Self Determination: A Way Forward For The Yorùbá by Cofactor(op): 8:00pm On Feb 01, 2018 |
Greenback:What is this one ranting and wailing about? Can't comprehend. |
| Re: Regional Autonomy Or Self Determination: A Way Forward For The Yorùbá by konoplyanka: 9:05pm On Feb 01, 2018 |
bonechamberlain:You guys just come on social media to to spew bile and silly innuendos. Tell me when the west has had an agreement with anybody and reneged. One thing I'm sure of Yoruba is we are progressive and see things rationally. We don't see things from a jaundiced perspective and we are independent in thought- no herd mentality. We can agree with you and disagree with you when the parameters change and that's the hallmark of a civilized people and we are unapologetic if you guys are too slow to understand the dynamic of civilization. We showed our resolve when we said no to military regime and our unconditional demand for the thwarted mandate of Abiola. If you guys think anyone could take you serious on anything in Nigeria then show me the battle you have won in Nigeria. And to those ignoramuses saying the north will never accept restructuring- I say keep your generational inferiority complex to yourselves. Restructuring will be achieved very soon. Nigeria is not restructured due to the lack of political will of our politicians and not your imaginary "powerful north". |
| Re: Regional Autonomy Or Self Determination: A Way Forward For The Yorùbá by konoplyanka: 9:12pm On Feb 01, 2018 |
jhubril:which betrayal and cowardice are you talking about? can you give historical examples if you are not just a shallow tribalist? |
| Re: Regional Autonomy Or Self Determination: A Way Forward For The Yorùbá by bonechamberlain(m): 9:17pm On Feb 01, 2018 |
konoplyanka:who is talking about agreement. independent in thought, no herd mentality, u don't even know urself, I don't have time to right epistles. like I have said even okupe ur tribesman has attested to my point. |
| Re: Regional Autonomy Or Self Determination: A Way Forward For The Yorùbá by Cofactor(op): 11:06pm On Feb 01, 2018 |
konoplyanka:Well said my brother... |
| Re: Regional Autonomy Or Self Determination: A Way Forward For The Yorùbá by konoplyanka: 12:19am On Feb 02, 2018 |
bonechamberlain:You should look into your tribe and see what you paint others. |
| Re: Regional Autonomy Or Self Determination: A Way Forward For The Yorùbá by tellmemore15: 12:34am On Feb 02, 2018 |
I commend the OP for such a brilliant write up, i love the truth and people who speak it. Yoruba's to be sincere are one of the problems of this country, thank God they've woken up to their senses but not as we expected. it's time for southern Nigeria and all communities under threat to come together and face the North once and for all, Northerners are cowards. that's who they are cowards !! and they need to be put in their place finally. You people should talk to OBJ ooh I dont know what he's seeing in this one Nigeria. |
| Re: Regional Autonomy Or Self Determination: A Way Forward For The Yorùbá by jhubril(m): 1:20am On Feb 02, 2018 |
konoplyanka:I don't waste my precious time talking to stupid people . |
| Re: Regional Autonomy Or Self Determination: A Way Forward For The Yorùbá by konoplyanka: 10:18am On Feb 02, 2018 |
jhubril:Oh really? So you just make baseless tribal slurs on social media forum and when called upon to justify your claim you look for the most shallow escape routes? Stupidity must be a pastime in your lineage. |
| Re: Regional Autonomy Or Self Determination: A Way Forward For The Yorùbá by Nobody: 11:40am On Feb 02, 2018 |
This people and snake are 1 &2 I never see ... what a tuface humans. Told people they problem this human got with igbos is all about jealousy envy hatred.. They hate the guts of those ibo they hate dia courage.. all because is something the wishes for but can never get in life.. You he fear igbos Now see after insulting Kanu ipob this human are not even ashamed.. See nah.. I greet una.. una " diplomatic sophistication no get part 2. But finally make una know say, na only una by una self dey deceive una .. The rest of the country don move ahead .. And no human in this country take you people serious... And this una have failed to observe.. but always shookin eyes on Igbo matters. One day una eye go clear for this country. Make una sleep well oh |
| Re: Regional Autonomy Or Self Determination: A Way Forward For The Yorùbá by rlauncher(m): 12:32pm On Feb 02, 2018 |
knowledgeable:We Yorubas are not stupid. We were grossly underrepresented in the military then with Lagos the then FCT littered with soldiers of northern extractions. Before going to war with a determined foe, you have to calculate the risks which we did. The odds were not in our favour, so we decided to play the game with maturity, sophistication and sophistry. All we'd expected then was for the Igbos to defend their territory which they were already doing very well. We would deal with the Northerners later as soon as is practicable The Western Region had already secured agreement with the FG that there would be no attack on Biafra from western side, meaning Yorubas will not participate in the war against the Biafrans. Before you say jack, the Biafrans were charging westward with their war machines which prompted the Yorubas to enter into the war. Now tell me, who is to blame for the loss of Igbos in the civil war. |
| Re: Regional Autonomy Or Self Determination: A Way Forward For The Yorùbá by jhubril(m): 3:37pm On Feb 02, 2018 |
konoplyanka:. You're not even intelligent enough to punctuate your balderdash . And as for your last statement,I get you're forcibly trying to make a derogatory point but that was a woeful attempt. |
| Re: Regional Autonomy Or Self Determination: A Way Forward For The Yorùbá by jhubril(m): 3:42pm On Feb 02, 2018 |
jhubril: |
| Re: Regional Autonomy Or Self Determination: A Way Forward For The Yorùbá by Cofactor(op): 7:01pm On Feb 02, 2018 |
tellmemore15:The words of OBJ can only mean little in the ears of the political illiterate in the West. We know him for who he is; a bastard and Northern proxy. Leave him, we are not his people. |
| Re: Regional Autonomy Or Self Determination: A Way Forward For The Yorùbá by Cofactor(op): 7:47am On Feb 03, 2018 |
konoplyanka:This is what I've been telling those who care to listen. Nigeria is yet to be restructured because Yorùbá political elites lacks the willingness to achieve it. They are more concerned with the loot they benefit from this present unitary system. Nigeria not being restructured is not because the North is powerful in the face of Yorùbá opposition but because Yorùbá is on the onlooking mode. A mode we will soon exit. |
| Re: Regional Autonomy Or Self Determination: A Way Forward For The Yorùbá by kernel504(m): 8:25am On Feb 03, 2018 |
shervydman:Beside that, they've been intimating the Benue people to submission, using Federal apparatus. |
| Re: Regional Autonomy Or Self Determination: A Way Forward For The Yorùbá by konoplyanka: 10:56am On Feb 03, 2018 |
Cofactor:Not Yoruba but the politicians across Nigeria lack the will to effect change. |
| Re: Regional Autonomy Or Self Determination: A Way Forward For The Yorùbá by konoplyanka: 10:57am On Feb 03, 2018 |
jhubril:Intelligent dolt who make claims he cannot substantiate. |
| Re: Regional Autonomy Or Self Determination: A Way Forward For The Yorùbá by Cofactor(op): 8:02pm On Feb 04, 2018 |
konoplyanka:You mean across the South, Northern politicians duty is to preserve and protect the status quo. |
| Re: Regional Autonomy Or Self Determination: A Way Forward For The Yorùbá by Greenback: 1:54pm On Feb 11, 2018 |
Cofactor:nomadic sch dropout ![]() |
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