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Re: Where Exactly Is Garden Of Eden??? by OkaiCorne(m): 12:11pm On Feb 07, 2018
Martinez19:
so you are a christian and you were dodging my questions then.
You've been trying to label me with a religion.

I don't have any religion. For example, there are certain things in Islam and Bhuddism I can defend till my last breath, but that doesn't make me a Muslim or Bhuddist either.

I have no religion, but the only thing I have allegiance to is the Truth.

The problem with religion is that it's a mixture of Truth with lies and errors...and I've moved on from that lower level of the pyramid to seek enlightenment...
Re: Where Exactly Is Garden Of Eden??? by Martinez19(m): 12:36pm On Feb 07, 2018
OkaiCorne:
You've been trying to label me with a religion.

I don't have any religion. For example, there are certain things in Islam and Bhuddism I can defend till my last breath, but that doesn't make me a Muslim or Bhuddist either.

I have no religion, but the only thing I have allegiance to is the Truth.

The problem with religion is that it's a mixture of Truth with lies and errors...and I've moved on from that lower level of the pyramid to seek enlightenment...
But you believe that things written in the bible are true?
Re: Where Exactly Is Garden Of Eden??? by Tozara(m): 12:46pm On Feb 07, 2018
OkaiCorne:
You've been trying to label me with a religion.

I don't have any religion. [color=darkgreen]For example, there are certain things in Islam and Bhuddism I can defend till my last breath, but that doesn't make me a Muslim or Bhuddist either.[/color]

I have no religion, but the only thing I have allegiance to is the Truth.

The problem with religion is that it's a mixture of Truth with lies and errors...and I've moved on from that lower level of the pyramid to seek enlightenment...
Ehn ehn! Baddoo! You caught my attention. I'm interested in the treasures you looted from the world's Cathedrals of sages. Will you show me?

What are those things in Islam and Buddhism that are indisputably true?
Re: Where Exactly Is Garden Of Eden??? by OkaiCorne(m): 12:47pm On Feb 07, 2018
Martinez19:
But you believe that things written in the bible are true?
In all honesty, I don't believe everything written in there.

By the way, we need to be clear on which Bible sef..as there are numerous versions with their different but conflicting interpretations...
Re: Where Exactly Is Garden Of Eden??? by OkaiCorne(m): 12:50pm On Feb 07, 2018
Tozara:
Ehn ehn! Baddoo! You caught my attention. I'm interested in the treasures you looted from the world's Cathedrals of sages. Will you show me?

What are those things in Islam and Buddhism that are indisputably true?
grin grin which treasures are you talking about? grin grin grin

The basic things I believe that are indisputably true in Islam and Bhuddism are Mohammed and Bhudda are human beings who once lived on earth...

When you research on these guys life and lifestyle...then you'll understand those religions inside out...
Re: Where Exactly Is Garden Of Eden??? by Tozara(m): 12:55pm On Feb 07, 2018
OkaiCorne:
grin grin which treasures are you talking about? grin grin grin

The basic things I believe that are indisputably true in Islam and Bhuddism are Mohammed and Bhudda are human beings who once lived on earth...

When you research on these guys life and lifestyle...then you'll understand those religions inside out...
Hehehe. I thought I was in for some shocker. But it turned out touching you isn't electrocuting afterall. grin

Does anyone dispute the existence of these greatest shizophrenics of all time?
Re: Where Exactly Is Garden Of Eden??? by dalaman: 12:57pm On Feb 07, 2018
OkaiCorne:
I guess the scientists that come up with findings that challenges your assumptions are all liars abi?

Check your map and tell me where Tigris and Euphrates converge at...
Then read your Bible and tell me where Tigris and Euphrates also converge at...

Since you insist these guys are liars...then prove them wrong with your own research work na...

Once upon a time, even the story behind Atlantis was mythical and a fairy tale too...but now Science has proven it's a reality...

By the way, the author of Genesis is Moses...please do me a favor and tell me he's mythical too...
Moses did NOT write the book of Genesis. The book has many different unknown authors. Moses himself was a mythical figure.
Re: Where Exactly Is Garden Of Eden??? by OkaiCorne(m): 12:59pm On Feb 07, 2018
dalaman:
Moses did NOT write the book of Genesis. The book has many different unknown authors. Moses himself was a mythical figure.
Alright then...suit yourself

I hope 10,000 years from now...someone won't think of your existence as mythical too...


Good luck
Re: Where Exactly Is Garden Of Eden??? by OkaiCorne(m): 1:00pm On Feb 07, 2018
Tozara:
Hehehe. I thought I was in for some shocker. But it turned out touching you isn't electrocuting afterall. grin

Does anyone dispute the existence of these greatest shizophrenics of all time?
Someone on this thread might not agree with you...

That person will say these guys are mythical too...

I'd rather not mention names though...
Re: Where Exactly Is Garden Of Eden??? by Martinez19(m): 1:01pm On Feb 07, 2018
OkaiCorne:
In all honesty, I don't believe everything written in there.

By the way, we need to be clear on which Bible sef..as there are numerous versions with their different but conflicting interpretations...
hian, from this topic it's clear you believe the creation story. Okay o.

Re: Where Exactly Is Garden Of Eden??? by OkaiCorne(m):
Martinez19:
hian, from this topic it's clear you believe the creation story. Okay o.
Well...I wasn't the mai-guard at the garden to witness happened in exact details... grin grin grin

But that doesn't negate the fact that there was a certain location where the four rivers mentioned in Genesis converged...

The truth is like a spider's web, one truth or fact lays the foundation or link to another truth yet to be uncovered.

My own style is to wait patiently for the truth to be uncovered before I accept it...till then, I maintain a neutral mind on the matter...
Re: Where Exactly Is Garden Of Eden??? by Emusan(m): 1:29pm On Feb 07, 2018
dalaman:
Nobody even know the authors of the book of Genesis. All the stories there are mythical. Science does NOT support anything written in Genesis . The people you mentioned up there are liars.
Typical arrogant life of Atheist, who is talking about Author here?

Funny enough, you even went further to disgrace yourself by saying "Science does NOT support anything written in Genesis"

But if the people have said things that go against the Bible, I guess it won't take you time to cheer and praise them.
Re: Where Exactly Is Garden Of Eden??? by OkaiCorne(m): 1:34pm On Feb 07, 2018
Emusan:
Typical arrogant life of Atheist, who is talking about Author here?

Funny enough, you even went further to disgrace yourself by saying "Science does NOT support anything written in Genesis"

But if the people have said things that go against the Bible, I guess it won't take you time to cheer and praise them.
Free the guy jare...later he'll accuse other people of not having an open mind to learn...
Re: Where Exactly Is Garden Of Eden??? by Emusan(m): 1:34pm On Feb 07, 2018
Martinez19:
But you believe that things written in the bible are true?
Typical arrogant life of an Atheists.

Someone created a post and the guy came in to show that 'some people have actually carried out a RESEARCH to know the location of the garden'.

He even went further to say he is not a Christian but only a seeker of the truth. Yet, you still want to rope him as a religious person.

And people like you will be claiming highest IQ than religious people but lack simple comprehension.
Re: Where Exactly Is Garden Of Eden??? by dalaman: 7:55pm On Feb 07, 2018
Emusan:
Typical arrogant life of Atheist, who is talking about Author here?

Funny enough, you even went further to disgrace yourself by saying "Science does NOT support anything written in Genesis"

But if the people have said things that go against the Bible, I guess it won't take you time to cheer and praise them.
Does science support the creation narrative in Genesis? No it doesn't

Does science support the Noah's flood account? No it doesn't.

Does history support the tower of bble story? No ot doesn't.

Nothing in the book of Genesis is supported by science.
Re: Where Exactly Is Garden Of Eden??? by dalaman: 7:58pm On Feb 07, 2018
OkaiCorne:
Alright then...suit yourself

I hope 10,000 years from now...someone won't think of your existence as mythical too...


Good luck
This is absolutely no evidence whatsoever for a historical Moses.

Egyptian Kings that lived before then have many evidence to support their existence. None is available for any Moses a parts from the mythical narratives written inside the bible.
Re: Where Exactly Is Garden Of Eden??? by budaatum: 8:35pm On Feb 07, 2018
OkaiCorne:
I guess the scientists that come up with findings that challenges your assumptions are all liars abi?

Check your map and tell me where Tigris and Euphrates converge at...
Then read your Bible and tell me where Tigris and Euphrates also converge at...

Since you insist these guys are liars...then prove them wrong with your own research work na...

Once upon a time, even the story behind Atlantis was mythical and a fairy tale too...but now Science has proven it's a reality...

By the way, the author of Genesis is Moses...please do me a favor and tell me he's mythical too...
There is no evidence whatsoever that Moses existed, not to talk of writing anything!

And Atlantis has always been mythical!

Atlantis (Ancient Greek: Ἀτλαντὶς νῆσος, "island of Atlas"wink is a fictional island mentioned within an allegory on the hubris of nations in Plato's works Timaeus and Critias, where it represents the antagonist naval power that besieges "Ancient Athens", the pseudo-historic embodiment of Plato's ideal state (see The Republic).
Re: Where Exactly Is Garden Of Eden??? by OkaiCorne(m): 9:27pm On Feb 07, 2018
dalaman:
This is absolutely no evidence whatsoever for a historical Moses.

Egyptian Kings that lived before then have many evidence to support their existence. None is available for any Moses a parts from the mythical narratives written inside the bible.
If I bring two sources outside the bible...you'll still shout Moses is mythical and the author of the literature is a liar.

Anyways, go and google out Antiquities of the Jews by famous historian Josephus Flavius...

Then tell me Moses is mythical again...
Re: Where Exactly Is Garden Of Eden??? by OkaiCorne(m): 9:29pm On Feb 07, 2018
budaatum:
There is no evidence whatsoever that Moses existed, not to talk of writing anything!

And Atlantis has always been mythical!

Atlantis (Ancient Greek: Ἀτλαντὶς νῆσος, "island of Atlas"wink is a fictional island mentioned within an allegory on the hubris of nations in Plato's works Timaeus and Critias, where it represents the antagonist naval power that besieges "Ancient Athens", the pseudo-historic embodiment of Plato's ideal state (see The Republic).
Atlantis is mythical?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcT19bayXyE


I would be happy if all these conclusions are arrived at after thorough research...
Re: Where Exactly Is Garden Of Eden??? by dalaman: 9:47pm On Feb 07, 2018
OkaiCorne:
If I bring two sources outside the bible...you'll still shout Moses is mythical and the author of the literature is a liar.

Anyways, go and google out Antiquities of the Jews by famous historian Josephus Flavius...

Then tell me Moses is mythical again...
Josephus lived thousands of years after Moses allegedly lived so how is he your source for the existence of Moses?
Re: Where Exactly Is Garden Of Eden??? by godisgood200: 11:35pm On Feb 07, 2018
psychalade:
The garden of Eden never existed, the whole Bible is just an allegory grin
You wish.
Re: Where Exactly Is Garden Of Eden??? by budaatum: 12:29am On Feb 08, 2018
OkaiCorne:
Atlantis is mythical?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcT19bayXyE


I would be happy if all these conclusions are arrived at after thorough research...
Do you know that Atlas was the Titan responsible for holding up the sky on his shoulders to prevent the earth and sky resuming their embracing and copulating?

My dear friend, go read a book please. Start with Homer's Oddyseus. Then advance to Robert Graves Greek Myths. You can then come back and tell me the Greek Gods are real too.
Re: Where Exactly Is Garden Of Eden??? by OkaiCorne(m): 4:50am On Feb 08, 2018
budaatum:
Do you know that Atlas was the Titan responsible for holding up the sky on his shoulders to prevent the earth and sky resuming their embracing and copulating?

My dear friend, go read a book please. Start with Homer's Oddyseus. Then advance to Robert Graves Greek Myths. You can then come back and tell me the Greek Gods are real too.
Discoveries were made of ancient ruins under the sea that fits into what Plato described. You can live in denial of that bro...
Unless you are also insinuating these scientists and discoverers are liars too...

Go and research more on the matter. I am not asking you to believe any Greek gods, but consider the artifacts and other ancient evidences before you conclude on certain issues...
Re: Where Exactly Is Garden Of Eden??? by OkaiCorne(m):
dalaman:
Josephus lived thousands of years after Moses allegedly lived so how is he your source for the existence of Moses?
Josephus is a historian who compiled his work using ancient materials of Egyptian historians and scribes that lived centuries before him. The most prominent among these historians is Manetho...

More information could have been gotten about Moses if the Library of Alexandria was not destroyed. A lot of information wouldn't have been lost to time...

When Jesus transfigured on the mount, Moses and Elijah were there with Him as well. And this act was witnessed by Peter, John and one other Apostle ... but I guess these guys are also mythical to you...
Re: Where Exactly Is Garden Of Eden??? by budaatum: 6:14am On Feb 08, 2018
OkaiCorne:
Discoveries were made of ancient ruins under the sea that fits into what Plato described. You can live in denial of that bro...
Unless you are also insinuating these scientists and discoverers are liars too...

Go and research more on the matter. I am not asking you to believe any Greek gods, but consider the artifacts and other ancient evidences before you conclude on certain issues...
I have investigated this in the past and do not find the evidence for Atlantis to be credible. And I sure considered way more than a youtube video!

Plato described a place as large as Libya and Asia combined. Surely if anything of such a place was found you'd have more to show for it than this!?

Nevertheless, your believes do me no harm. With the information you have digested, I can't expect you to believe otherwise. Let me know if your eyes open to the truth though.
Re: Where Exactly Is Garden Of Eden??? by OkaiCorne(m): 6:31am On Feb 08, 2018
budaatum:
I have investigated this in the past and do not find the evidence for Atlantis to be credible. And I sure considered way more than a youtube video!

Plato described a place as large as Libya and Asia combined. Surely if anything of such a place was found you'd have more to show for it than this!?

Nevertheless, your believes do me no harm. With the information you have digested, I can't expect you to believe otherwise. Let me know if your eyes open to the truth though.
I have equally made my findings from reputable sources as well...and not just a youtube video...

When ancient people describe land masses for you, which technology do you think they rely on to make their assertions accurate?

Their description of such land mass could be bigger or smaller than what it actually is...either ways, I am not postulating anything, I have made my findings based on discovery of ancient ruins of civilizations submerged under the sea...same thing applies to the ancient city of Heraclion which was a part of ancient Egypt in the past...

If there were tales about the ancient city of Heraclion...someone would shout it is a myth...not until it's discovered...
Re: Where Exactly Is Garden Of Eden??? by OkaiCorne(m): 8:09am On Feb 08, 2018
budaatum:
I have investigated this in the past and do not find the evidence for Atlantis to be credible. And I sure considered way more than a youtube video!

Plato described a place as large as Libya and Asia combined. Surely if anything of such a place was found you'd have more to show for it than this!?

Nevertheless, your believes do me no harm. With the information you have digested, I can't expect you to believe otherwise. Let me know if your eyes open to the truth though.
Let me replay your logic for you. Assuming something catastrophic happens and Lagos is submerged in the Ocean...10,000 years after, someone says Lagos never existed, does that make sense to you?
Re: Where Exactly Is Garden Of Eden??? by Tharhiwan(m): 9:09am On Feb 08, 2018
Islamically adam was sent out frm d heaven was guild by d angels as u said any human wu wana enta d even must struggle so,QURAN z full talk about all
Re: Where Exactly Is Garden Of Eden??? by dalaman: 9:11am On Feb 08, 2018
OkaiCorne:
Josephus is a historian who compiled his work using ancient materials of Egyptian historians and scribes that lived centuries before him. The most prominent among these historians is Manetho...

More information could have been gotten about Moses if the Library of Alexandria was not destroyed. A lot of information wouldn't have been lost to time...

When Jesus transfigured on the mount, Moses and Elijah were there with Him as well. And this act was witnessed by Peter, John and one other Apostle ... but I guess these guys are also mythical to you...
You talk based on the assumption that the events written inside the bible is true. He transfiguration written inside the bible is NOT a historical event. Historically the revised NO evidence whatsoever for a man named Moses. There is NO historical evidence for the Exodus or that the ancient Jews were ever enslaved in Egypt during that time. NOTHING at all.Not in the Egyptian records or archeological finds. Most scholars have stated that the Exodus is non historical.
Re: Where Exactly Is Garden Of Eden??? by OkaiCorne(m): 9:15am On Feb 08, 2018
dalaman:
You talk based on the assumption that the events written inside the bible is true. He transfiguration written inside the bible is NOT a historical event. Historically the revised NO evidence whatsoever for a man named Moses. There is NO historical evidence for the Exodus or that the ancient Jews were ever enslaved in Egypt during that time. NOTHING at all.Not in the Egyptian records or archeological finds. Most scholars have stated that the Exodus is non historical.
You haven't done in-depth research to arrive at this conclusion...

The gap in your assertions is that all truth must be written before it becomes valid, whereas you haven't considered the fact that truth exists in an unwritten form at first, before it becomes written and may as well remain unwritten over time...but exist in oral forms long before it is documented...

Kindly share the materials you consulted before arriving at your assumptions...
Re: Where Exactly Is Garden Of Eden??? by OkaiCorne(m): 9:16am On Feb 08, 2018
Tharhiwan:
Islamically
adam was sent out frm d heaven
was guild by d angels as u said
any human wu wana enta d even must struggle
so,QURAN z full talk about all
Please explain further, what you typed isn't really clear to me...

no offense intended...
Re: Where Exactly Is Garden Of Eden??? by OkaiCorne(m): 11:39am On Feb 08, 2018
dalaman:
Does science support the creation narrative in Genesis? No it doesn't

Does science support the Noah's flood account? No it doesn't.

Does history support the tower of bble story? No ot doesn't.

Nothing in the book of Genesis is supported by science.
Really? How much research did you do before arriving at this conclusion?
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