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Re: Why Generational Curses Still Affect Many Christians by shadeyinka(m): 3:16pm On Feb 11, 2018 |
Xisnin:Poverty is a big problem indeed but it isn't the only form of manifestation of generational curses Eg. Barrenness Kleptomania Anger/Rage/Violence But, I also agree with you in that poverty indeed is a serious problem that mask many others |
Re: Why Generational Curses Still Affect Many Christians by shadeyinka(m): 3:17pm On Feb 11, 2018 |
paxonel:You're welcome. Happy Sunday |
Re: Why Generational Curses Still Affect Many Christians by shadeyinka(m): 3:20pm On Feb 11, 2018 |
paxonel:You didn't answer the question. Why did Jesus call Peter 'Satan'? Was Peter the 'Satan' in disguise? |
Re: Why Generational Curses Still Affect Many Christians by Follygunners: 3:38pm On Feb 11, 2018 |
Bethor: You nailed it, bro. We're all responsible for our own actions. Jesus came to set us all free from all this BS! To hell with all these nonsense stories from the "spiritual assholes"! |
Re: Why Generational Curses Still Affect Many Christians by shadeyinka(m): 3:43pm On Feb 11, 2018 |
petra1:All ancestral curses are product of sin! I will give you two hypothetical examples: 1. My great great grand father lived in the time of slave trade and inter-village wars. He loved his family so much that he went to make a deal with demons (idols) for protection for his family that non will be carried off in slavery. Blood Sacrifices are made to seal the deal. The idol protects but is given ACCESS to his linage. All his generations must pay regular obeisance and worship to the idol and must also observe so taboos. Come 2014, I become born again: the demons loose ownership/control over my spirit but since my job, education, finances are not born again, they harass me through them. 2. My forefathers needed to make a sacrifice to their gods. This require human sacrifice. The virgin slave who lived all her life with the family was chosen. She pleads and begs but all fell to deaf ears. And then, with bitterness of heart and tears she begins to make pronounsments - as her life was cut off in her prime, so would it begin to happen in this family -when their joy is almost maturing, then it shall be cut off -as she could not have her own child of her own, barrenness will not depart from this family Now, a sacrilage had been committed already. The sacrificial girl has a legal right over them for she has done no wrong against them. So, a demon or a group of demons enforces the curse. 3. A driver was over speeding. He hits a man and refuses to stop. He escapes and because of this , his victim bleed to death. He has broken the hedge and an opportunistic demon attaches itself to the man. Several years down the line, manifestations begin to show. Like I said, if a man is born again, is his Job, education, lecturers, business also born again? Its just like Job: Satan can harass job through everything that can touch jobs joy and comfort. Of course unless the christian stands up to resist Satan and his demons, the demons will control whatever is within their reach. Standing up to take control over your possessions is called self deliverance through Christ Jesus. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Generational Curses Still Affect Many Christians by shadeyinka(m): 3:45pm On Feb 11, 2018 |
Muafrika2:Perfectly said. We are soldiers of Christ and not civilians: and that is why we should expect the enemy to attempt to destroy us. But, attack is the best form of defence. Resist the devil and he shall flee from you... 1 Like |
Re: Why Generational Curses Still Affect Many Christians by orisa37: 4:13pm On Feb 11, 2018 |
Those Generations must individually be Born Again to remove the curses |
Re: Why Generational Curses Still Affect Many Christians by paxonel(m): 4:31pm On Feb 11, 2018 |
shadeyinka:Ok, He was the Satan in disguise at that moment, Does that makes him inflicted by demon? |
Re: Why Generational Curses Still Affect Many Christians by shadeyinka(m): 4:44pm On Feb 11, 2018 |
paxonel:The words Peter spoke was ministered to him by Satan. Jesus wasn't rebuking Peter; Jesus was indeed rebuking Satan who had used Peters mouth to speak. Now, just remember that about 5 minuites before that, the Holy Spirit just finished using the same Peter. In other words, even though Satan doesn't OWN Peter, Satan could influence Peter. A long term satanic influence over a person is called demonization. It is impossible for a born again (Christian) to be possessed. But a Christian can be demonized. If a Christian can be demonized how much more his business, education, relationships and sometimes it is his health. 1 Like |
Re: Why Generational Curses Still Affect Many Christians by shadeyinka(m): 4:55pm On Feb 11, 2018 |
petra1:I descoverd that I didn't answer your direct question. Ancestral curse doesn't automatically fall on every descendant of a cursed linage. The way I understand it is like the sickle cell gene. The fact that both of my parents are AS-AS does not mean that I would be a sickler or carrier of the Sickle cell gene. That is, even though both parents are AS, they could have 4 children who are AA. So, it isn't automatic that generational curses pass down to all the children. Some generational curses/demonization is broken 1. At salvation 2. Through spiritual sanitation (living holy) 3. Imbibing the Word (flushing) 4. Some must be by WAR! This war is what is known as deliverance. Deliverance could be 1. Self ministered 2. Ministered by another person 3. Mass Ministration (like public church prayers) |
Re: Why Generational Curses Still Affect Many Christians by bukatyne(f): 5:01pm On Feb 11, 2018 |
Interesting discuss. I particularly learnt front the OP the last step of conversion we don't follow up on: baptism. And I agree with Shadeyinka on this... We need to be delivered by self or others of generational curses. The 2nd post directly above clearly explains it. Like Paul said, on earth we know in parts and I am glad l learnt from the OP even if I don't agree with his stance on ancestral curses. I believe he is just capturing the curse of the law which is broken automatically at Salvation. |
Re: Why Generational Curses Still Affect Many Christians by Nobody: 5:06pm On Feb 11, 2018 |
JesusSonOfGod: Why generational curses never destroy America 3 Likes |
Re: Why Generational Curses Still Affect Many Christians by petra1(m): 5:10pm On Feb 11, 2018 |
paxonel: So what came out and they became whole They are just being schizophrenic That’s a demon of dual personality If you see demon you fit stand? They know me and fear me. Make God not let us see bad thing o. Now I know where the problem is . Brother You don’t need to fear them . |
Re: Why Generational Curses Still Affect Many Christians by shadeyinka(m): 5:14pm On Feb 11, 2018 |
bukatyne: Yes mam The curse of the Law is broken at Salvation. Many people do not know that "Salvation" is actually the Deliverance of ones Spirit from satanic contamination and the curse of spiritual death. Christianity is warfare! Satan as an enemy is expected to do everything within his power to pummel us to giving up our territory won for us by Christ Jesus. Our duty as Christians is to resist by aggressive spiritual maneuvers using every spiritual weapon at our disposal |
Re: Why Generational Curses Still Affect Many Christians by Nobody: 5:16pm On Feb 11, 2018 |
I see my good friends here again. Been a while. As with my style of dividing the scriptures, any personal experience which cannot be backed up by God’s word is simply your own experience and not applicable to the body of Christ. Like I’ve always said, in life, there will always be challenges whether you are born again or not. Demons can harass a Christian so long as God allows it. The story of being born again and having generational curses is a big falsehood that is predominantly heard in Nigerian Christianity (now spreading it out to the rest of Africa). It’s amazing how none of these new insights was taught to the new converts in the Bible. My point is simple. When one is born again, it is the spirit that is born again. Generational curses are spiritual and passed on through bloodlines. How then does a new born spirit still retain parts of his old spirit? Now, it does not mean that those spirit or demons will not try to frustrate you in one way or the other but God allows such to strengthen us as good soldiers. In my walk with God and even according to the Bible, Faith is more important than chanting Out prayer points. What you believe is key! 2 Likes |
Re: Why Generational Curses Still Affect Many Christians by Originalsly: 5:27pm On Feb 11, 2018 |
JesusSonOfGod:So what really is generational curse?....can you give an example?....or any other curse whatsoever? |
Re: Why Generational Curses Still Affect Many Christians by paxonel(m): 5:29pm On Feb 11, 2018 |
petra1:They only recovered from their delusion after a short while Find out the meaning of schizophrenia, it's nothing spiritual at all. same to all christians. I don't need to be afraid of demons. All I'm saying is, Christ has done everything ,we don't have any demon battle to fight cos if we do, then we cannot stand it on our own. |
Re: Why Generational Curses Still Affect Many Christians by Sexyrosa: 5:31pm On Feb 11, 2018 |
OP u have done your part...Leave the ignorant ones to argue all dey like... 1 Like |
Re: Why Generational Curses Still Affect Many Christians by ItsMeAboki(m): 5:59pm On Feb 11, 2018 |
NOETHNICITY: You mean like this and that? 2 Likes
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Re: Why Generational Curses Still Affect Many Christians by petra1(m): 6:16pm On Feb 11, 2018 |
paxonel: Casting out demons is one of our mandates Mark 16:17 17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; |
Re: Why Generational Curses Still Affect Many Christians by paxonel(m): 6:25pm On Feb 11, 2018 |
petra1:That's true, but only from non christians, not from christians |
Re: Why Generational Curses Still Affect Many Christians by petra1(m): 6:35pm On Feb 11, 2018 |
shadeyinka: True statement . Anyone that denied demonic activity in lives of Christians is ignorant of spiritual side of life . There are cases that even speaking in tongues and confessing the word does not deal with . Someone need to cast the devil out ! |
Re: Why Generational Curses Still Affect Many Christians by petra1(m): 6:39pm On Feb 11, 2018 |
paxonel: From CHRISTIANS sir. It’s not even advisable to cast devils out of non Christians . Because it will come back . Are you aware that many dicknesss deceases are demonic ? Do Christians fall sick? Anyone who heals the sick will know that demons manifest in many cases when ministering to a sick christian . Some demon will even talk “I AM SPIRIT OF DEATH “ 1 Like |
Re: Why Generational Curses Still Affect Many Christians by petra1(m): 6:44pm On Feb 11, 2018 |
paxonel: It’s like saying Christians can’t fall sick. Are you aware that many ailment are demonic. When you just cast the spirit of infirmity out healing takes place |
Re: Why Generational Curses Still Affect Many Christians by petra1(m): 6:58pm On Feb 11, 2018 |
PrecisionFx: There are several deliverance ministers in America . Casting out of demons have been on for about 100 years |
Re: Why Generational Curses Still Affect Many Christians by emmayoc: 7:00pm On Feb 11, 2018 |
OP thanks for this exposition. Indeed the greatest weapon of Satan is ignorance. Once u are ignorant of what Christ has done and finished on ur behalf, Satan will torment u with that. Pls, for those of us who are categorising albinism, dwarfism, sickle cell, etc as generational curses, u might be making a mistake here. Generational curses are negative events that are seen to manifest and affect families from past generations negatively. Ex, nobody give birth to male children, girls marry and come back to their parents home, diabetes, cancer, high bp, arthritis etc in the linage, near success syndromes, nobody build a house etc. They are many but this are lies of the devil as Jesus has freed u from them all on the cross immediately u bliv and accept Him. This is different from the former I mentioned. Albinism, dwarfism is not a curse my people, this are gene's. Some people are created that way. Why do we have white and black people? This are nature and not generational curse as some pole bliv. Sickle cell on the other hand is curse by incompatibility on blood genotype's. This can receive supernatural healing by the power in the blood of Jesus. I have a woman in my church who God changed her genotype from SS to AS. It was proven, not a fiction. So let's always diffrenciate before we make our argument's. OP, pls I wish to correct something on ur write up so that people won't misinterpret it. BAPTISM does not wash away ur sin and it is not a criteria for u to make heaven. The bible explicitly says in John 3:3; Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. It is the blood of Jesus that washes away our sin not baptism. See 1John 1:7. There are so many passages to explain it but consider who repents on his sick bed and has no time for baptism, does it mean he will go to hell because he didn't baptise? NO. Baptism on the other hand is an indication that u are dead to sin and have risen in newness of life. ROM 6:4. So baptism doesn't cleanse mans sin, the blood of Jesus does and baptism is a sign u are dead to sin and the law of this world and risen with Christ as a new man. Shalom 1 Like |
Re: Why Generational Curses Still Affect Many Christians by bukatyne(f): 7:20pm On Feb 11, 2018 |
PrecisionFx: The constant push beyond moral borders might be their own curse. |
Re: Why Generational Curses Still Affect Many Christians by shadeyinka(m): 7:23pm On Feb 11, 2018 |
petra1:I agree perfectly with you. Until one sees a seriously sick serious Christian, one is tempted to believe that since Jesus bore on Himself our infirmities, Christians cannot be sick. So also with demonisation of Christians. 1 Like |
Re: Why Generational Curses Still Affect Many Christians by bedspread: 7:58pm On Feb 11, 2018 |
Generational Curses are Real Just Like Generational Blessings are Real !! Quite a Lot of folks today are suffering due to the wicked acts carried out by the parents and grand parents Just as Many are Enjoying the Blessings due to the Good deeds of their Parents and Fire fathers.. The Way to Seprate one's self from Generational curses is to Genuinely Accept JESUS CHRIST as Lord and Savior... Constant Fellowship with JESUS in a Heaven Recongnised Church... Anointing Breaks the Yoke 1 Like |
Re: Why Generational Curses Still Affect Many Christians by Nobody: 7:59pm On Feb 11, 2018 |
bukatyne:Morality depends on each civilization. What u call immoral is quite normal in another Clime n it doesn't disturb them. Like in China Siblings get married, have sex n have children n its quite normal over there but its an abomination in our own country. China is still 10,000 times better than Nigeria. 1 Like |
Re: Why Generational Curses Still Affect Many Christians by Nobody: 8:03pm On Feb 11, 2018 |
petra1: Lol. Bros dress do back go stay. Less than 30% of Americans identify as Christians. Of that under 30%, less than 10% attend Sunday mass. America even censor the word "God" across their media. Yet they are the richest n the most powerful force on earth. Dress abeg 2 Likes |
Re: Why Generational Curses Still Affect Many Christians by paxonel(m): 9:03pm On Feb 11, 2018 |
petra1:Ok, what you refer to as demonic is anything bad including sickness? Every failure in life is demonic too abi? |
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