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MistadeRegal:
I'm not asking you to believe.
Do you think JESUS CHRIST was kidding when HE says, "I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now."
John:16:12

I meant that I haven't come across those sections of hell in the Bible.

What sort of things does he have to say? How could they possibly be many?

3nim:
I meant that I haven't come across those sections of hell in the Bible.

What sort of things does he have to say? How could they possibly be many?

So so many that even till now, all has not been fully said.

MistadeRegal:
I don't have any burns.
The burns I suffer is here in my mind that what I saw is true.
If I tell you and you find it difficult to believe, I'm not surprised. I've told many also like you who do not believe.

I know someone who says she's been to heaven. She started her own religious movement after the experience because she wants everyone to go to heaven as well.

It is quite difficult to believe without proof. No offence.

I could tell you I've been on mount Everest. And this wasn't in a dream. It was real.

In reality, I can't even remember where the mountain is located.

How do you save NON-christians without proof?

If it wasn't written that Jesus had done any miracles, or that God confirmed being his father at his baptism...what would be Jesus' proof of being the son of God?

chocberry:
That was how God on me over completely. I had the personal experience life. I know what's there cause i was there.

How do you save NON-christians?

without evidence of you having being there. You really shouldn't feel anybody is stupid for doubting your words.

3nim:
I know someone who says she's been to heaven. She started her own religious movement after the experience because she wants everyone to go to heaven as well.

It is quite difficult to believe without proof. No offence.

I could tell you I've been on mount Everest. And this wasn't in a dream. It was real.

In reality, I can't even remember where the mountain is located.

How do you save NON-christians without proof?

If it wasn't written that Jesus had done any miracles, or that God confirmed being his father at his baptism...what would be Jesus' proof of being the son of God?

That's why until today, anyone's salvation lies in the power of their decision.

3nim:
How do you save NON-christians?

without evidence of you having being there. You really shouldn't feel anybody is stupid for doubting your words.

Even Paul said when i came unto you, it ws not with the wisdom of this world. God doesn't give this experiences solely for the purpose of salvation only, many times it is to impute " a faith " into the vessel for the work, not for the work per se.


From the experience my prayer life fired up, i can go 3-5-7days in intense prayer, my passion fuelled up, my desire to save souls, He grants these experiences to impact the mind/spiritual life of the vessel most times, no one ever goes to Heaven or Hell and remains on the same spiritual tier. It's now 10 years since my experiences, and from my prayer life every Minister that sees me, knows my prayer life was ignited by something out of this world. So this is how it happens

3nim:
How do you save NON-christians?

without evidence of you having being there. You really shouldn't feel anybody is stupid for doubting your words.

On evidence, do you remember what Abraham told the rich man when he asked Abraham to send someone from Hell to go and warn his brothers?

3nim:
How do you save NON-christians?

without evidence of you having being there. You really shouldn't feel anybody is stupid for doubting your words.

Ours is to tell them.
If they believe, the Holy Spirit will come into them and make things more exposed to them.
If they do not believe, they won't see anything.

MistadeRegal:
Ours is to tell them.
If they believe, the Holy Spirit will come into them and make things more exposed to them.
If they do not believe, they won't see anything.

No one needs glorious visions of Heaven or Hell to make the first plunge. Remember how Neo was offered the green and red pill by Morpheous, in the end, Neo chose he green pill cause of his desire to want to experience the matrix. People need thirst, depth and passion, this is in their inner core, our work is to speak, the Holy Spirit to activate and enliven the word and cause them to have experiences that will bring the word to life. Shikena

chocberry:
Matthew 18:9


"If your eye causes you to stumble, pluck it out and throw it from you It is better for you to enter life with one eye, than to have two eyes and be cast into the fiery hell.

Within 2 days GOD wants you to write exactly what you saw and give it a title

"My Journey to hell fire"

Lalasticlala will share in the reward of soul winning by pushing it to Frontpage once you are done.

What you saw is 100% true and infact you must ask GOD to forgive you for keeping it from the world because many will turn to Christ after reading your encounter.

Please mention me once you are done creating the thread.

Thanks

MistadeRegal:
That's why until today, anyone's salvation lies in the power of their decision.

These statements always make it sound like people are really stupid for not believing.

It's really unfair. Were your parents, aunties, uncles, friends or people around you Christians?
You'll definitely say yes, which means you'd been influenced and predisposed to believing these things.

People grew up on the opposite side of the world. Some never heard of Jesus. Now you tell them something they don't believe and they automatically send themselves to hell for not believing?

It's unfair. I would say that God should have given you the power to heal the sick instantaneously and maybe raise the dead or something.. just saying.
It's clear he has put some people at a disadvantage.
Some will die without even hearing of Jesus

Toks2008:
Within 2 days GOD wants you to write exactly what you saw and give it a title

"My Journey to hell fire"

Lalasticlala will share in the reward of soul winning by pushing it to Frontpage once you are done.

What you saw is 100% true and infact you must ask GOD to forgive you for keeping it from the world because many will turn to Christ after reading your encounter.

Please mention me once you are done creating the thread.

Thanks

It was more what i " felt ", Sir i lost my sanity all i can explain is the feeling, not even sight, so i'll pass on this experience thanks. Pass the offer to the other guy.

Toks2008:
Within 2 days GOD wants you to write exactly what you saw and give it a title

"My Journey to hell fire"

Lalasticlala will share in the reward of soul winning by pushing it to Frontpage once you are done.

What you saw is 100% true and infact you must ask GOD to forgive you for keeping it from the world because many will turn to Christ after reading your encounter.

Please mention me once you are done creating the thread.

Thanks

Did this just come as a revelation to you?

3nim:
These statements always make it sound like people are really stupid for not believing.

It's really unfair. Were your parents, aunties, uncles, friends or people around you Christians?
You'll definitely say yes, which means you'd been influenced and predisposed to believing these things.

People grew up on the opposite side of the world. Some never heard of Jesus. Now you tell them something they don't believe and they automatically send themselves to hell for not believing?

It's unfair. I would say that God should have given you the power to heal the sick instantaneously and maybe raise the dead or something.. just saying.
It's clear he has put some people at a disadvantage.
Some will die without even hearing of Jesus

I like your curiosity.
But I don't like telling people much about myself because everyone must focus on JESUS CHRIST and not me.
Whatever the spiritual gifts JESUS CHRIST has given me is for HIS glory not mine.

There's only one reason people will end up in hell: UNBELIEF.

Toks2008:
1.They believe that good works will take them to heaven:
Many people believe that salvation is all about how good you live while on earth but unfortunately it is not by how perfect your conduct is or how good natured you are. You must accept Jesus as your lord and saviour first and foremost because he is the only way to paradise, no other way.

Ephesians 2:8-9 'For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God;not by works, so that no one can boast.'
John 14:6 'Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.'

2.They question GOD about his ways
Many people ask GOD different questions about salvation...'Why did he have to send Jesus to die when he has the power to simply forgive us' 'Why did a loving GOD sacrifice someone he claims to be his son?' 'Why did.....' and on and on.
The fact remains that GOD ways are not our ways(Isaiah 55:8 ) and he made us understand that without the shedding of blood there is no remission of sins(Hebrews 9:22) and it is impossible for the blood of goats and bulls to take away the sins of the world(Hebrews 10:4-5).... so why not accept the sacrifice of christ and ask GOD why he chose that route when you get closer to him in paradise.

3.The simplicity of salvation
Now this is a very unique reason and many unbelievers find this very hard to understand because to them, getting saved had to be more difficult than just accepting Jesus as lord and saviour and getting baptized...but the truth is...it is that simple yet as simple as it is, many people find it extremely difficult to accept Jesus as lord and saviour which makes me wonder why a simple escape from eternal suffering can be so ignored by people.
John 3:16 'For GOD so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that whosoever believes in him will not perish but have everlasting life.

4.Self condemnation
It is so sad that many people had at one time accepted Jesus as lord and saviour and have tasted salvation but willingly gave up their salvation due to self condemnation. Because they still find themselves committing the same sins they were involved in before they accepted Jesus as lord and saviour,they just felt they are not good enough to be saved.
GOD expects us to live a holy life and to also work out our salvation with fear and trembling but nevertheless, he will never condemn you but will help you in your weakness through the help of the holy spirit to get better and better because salvation is a work in process we go through right from the day we got saved to the very day we leave this world. So please don't ever condemn yourself or give up your salvation because the moment you are saved, nothing will separate you from GOD except you. Anytime you commit a sin, go on your knees and pray for forgiveness and ask the holy spirit to help you overcome that sin/addiction...trust me, he will surely help you and you will hate the very sinful habits you once thought you can never overcome.
Romans 8:1-2 'Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit who gives life has set you free from the law of sin and death'

5.Unbelief
It is so unfortunate that some people believe that Jesus was never crucified yet they believe in every other aspect of him...they say he is not the son of GOD, that he was just a prophet like every other prophet and so on. Some even say there is no heaven, no hell and no GOD...But believe it or not. Jesus was crucified, he died and rose on the third day and he is alive forever and ever. He is THE DIVINE SON OF GOD and he is coming back again to rule this world for 1000years and afterwards he will establish a new heaven and a new earth where those who believe in him will live forever and ever and ever without sins,sadness,death but in total grandeur
John 3:36 'Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life; whoever does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God remains on him.

6.Heresy
False teachings have made many unbelievers run away from salvation simply because many preachers have presented salvation in a very different light and many people would rather remain as unbelievers rather than get involved in what seem to be a bondage to them.
I have heard some preachers say 'You will end up in hell If you wear jewelleries, use relaxers on your hair, if a lady wears trousers, if you don't pay your tithe, if you have a boyfriend/girlfriend, if you take alcohol, if you marry more than a wife....and on and on they set their own standard that is totally different from what is written in the scriptures thereby making salvation look like a serious bondage and in the process they discourage many people who indulge in those things they condemn from getting saved.

Galatians 5:13 'For you have been called to live in freedom, my brothers and sisters. But don’t use your freedom to satisfy your sinful nature. Instead, use your freedom to serve one another in love'.

7.Theological permutation and combination
I know many people might be coming across these combination of words for the very first time but i have meticulously observed that there are different interpretations to scriptures in relation to different Christian denominations. This is not heresy in anyway but just a different understanding of the scriptures hence the reason why some believe in trinity and some don't...some believe that this earth will remain forever and some don't...some don't even believe in speaking in tongues and some believe it is a vital sign that you have received the baptism of the holy spirit...and many more. In my opinion, this different beliefs could make outsiders or unbelievers get more confused and could make them start wondering if they really need to get involved. My humble suggestion is that we as a body of Christ must focus on saving souls which is the most vital assignment given to us by Jesus and focus less on the discrepancies in interpreting scriptures.

Romans 14:5-8 'One person considers one day more sacred than another; another considers every day alike. Each of them should be fully convinced in their own mind .Whoever regards one day as special does so to the Lord. Whoever eats meat does so to the Lord, for they give thanks to God; and whoever abstains does so to the Lord and gives thanks to God.For none of us lives for ourselves alone, and none of us dies for ourselves alone. If we live, we live for the Lord; and if we die, we die for the Lord. So, whether we live or die, we belong to the Lord.'

8.Using human as role model
This is one of the biggest mistake many people make...infact some people have given up their salvation because they use 'pastors' as role model rather than use Christ Jesus. Many people will say 'How can i give my life to Christ when i saw a pastor in a hotel room with a lady, how can i be born again when pastors who preach the gospel are enmeshed in sins'. If you are one of these people who use humans as role model i humbly advise you to take your eyes away from men and focus on Jesus who is the author and finisher of our faith...He is our role model.

Hebrews 10:2 'Let us fix our eyes on Jesus, the pioneer and perfecter of our faith, who for the joy set before Him endured the cross, scorning its shame, and sat down at the right hand of the throne of God.'

9.Sophistication
Many people are too full of themselves when it comes to the issue of salvation...they believe they are too powerful, popular, classy, wealthy,
handsome/pretty,educated...to accept Jesus as their lord and saviour so they just ignore and continue to live their life until its too late.
No matter how powerful,wealthy, good looking, influential, popular...you are, the fact remains that one day when you least expect it, you MUST leave this world and you must end up in either HELL or HEAVEN so the choice is yours to make while you are still in this world.

I keep reiterating that death must come to all no matter your age or status and it will come when we least expect it and when you die, people will forget about you so the best insurance you can have for your soul is to accept Jesus this moment because the worst thing that can ever happen to any human is to be caught dead without accepting Jesus as lord and saviour.

10.Some people will never be saved
As strange and wicked as this may seem,it is the truth. Lucifer,the demons and all fallen angels as well as those whose name have not been written in the book of life before the foundations of the world. This may get us confused but then i guess it still remains our choice to decide if we want to be saved or not....its totally up to you.

MAY GOD HELP US ALL.

3nim:
These statements always make it sound like people are really stupid for not believing.

It's really unfair. Were your parents, aunties, uncles, friends or people around you Christians?
You'll definitely say yes, which means you'd been influenced and predisposed to believing these things.

People grew up on the opposite side of the world. Some never heard of Jesus. Now you tell them something they don't believe and they automatically send themselves to hell for not believing?

It's unfair. I would say that God should have given you the power to heal the sick instantaneously and maybe raise the dead or something.. just saying.
It's clear he has put some people at a disadvantage.
Some will die without even hearing of Jesus

Have you come to think that in the absence of witnessing, that people are judged in accordance to the standard of " righteousness " in the generation, i.e. if 500 years ago the gospel was not widespread, in such times are good and bad people, now, the people of that generation shold be judged by their deeds, i.e. if one could be good, why was the other bad? God is accurate and is holistic in His judgement and will never punish the innocent. Anyone in hell deserves to be there

omojeesu:
There's only one reason people will end up in hell: UNBELIEF.

That is it, the ultimate thing that leads people to hell


" UNBELIEF "

chocberry:
Even Paul said when i came unto you, it ws not with the wisdom of this world. God doesn't give this experiences solely for the purpose of salvation only, many times it is to impute " a faith " into the vessel for the work, not for the work per se.


From the experience my prayer life fired up, i can go 3-5-7days in intense prayer, my passion fuelled up, my desire to save souls, He grants these experiences to impact the mind/spiritual life of the vessel most times, no one ever goes to Heaven or Hell and remains on the same spiritual tier. It's now 10 years since my experiences, and from my prayer life every Minister that sees me, knows my prayer life was ignited by something out of this world. So this is how it happens

In the last days,' God says, 'I will pour out my Spirit upon all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy. Your young men will see visions, and your old men will dream dreams.(Acts 2:17)

GOD gave you a message through a vision you saw and you kept mum...do you know the number of souls you would have saved if you had shared it? Big shame on you bro. ..

I have neither seen heaven or hell in the real sense but the fire that burns in me to win souls is unequivocal so why should you who have vividly seen this vision be so laikadasic?

MistadeRegal:
On evidence, do you remember what Abraham told the rich man when he asked Abraham to send someone from Hell to go and warn his brothers?

Yessssss it should have been clear enough then to Abraham that the method of having mere people talking on earth wasn't very effective in saving God's creation.

Toks2008:
In the last days,' God says, 'I will pour out my Spirit upon all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy. Your young men will see visions, and your old men will dream dreams.(Acts 2:17)

GOD gave you a message through a vision you saw and you kept mum...do you know the number of souls you would have saved if you had shared it? Big shame on you bro. ..

I have neither see heaven or hell in the real sense but the fire that burns in me to win souls is unequivocal so why should you who have vividly seen this vision be so laikadasic?

...

3nim:
Did this just come as a revelation to you?

I operate in the prophetic ministry so Yes GOD just asked me to tell him this and this thread came to me also as a revelation just as my other threads on salvation.

Most guys making funny comments will accept Jesus as lord and saviour after reading this.

3nim:
Yessssss it should have been clear enough then to Abraham that the method of having mere people talking on earth wasn't very effective in saving God's creation.

Preachers are not for you to believe the preachers but for you to believe their testimony as it is written concerning JESUS CHRIST.
There are several records about the miracles of JESUS CHRIST which cannot be erased throughout all generations.
People seeking miracles today is what makes them fall into the wrong hands.
If I transform the water in a bowl to blood, what will you call it? Miracle? But no, that's magic. For, whatever will make GOD transform water to blood shows the full wrath of GOD.

MistadeRegal:
Preachers are not for you to believe the preachers but for you to believe their testimony as it is written concerning JESUS CHRIST.
There are several records about the miracles of JESUS CHRIST which cannot be erased throughout all generations.
People seeking miracles today is what makes them fall into the wrong hands.
If I transform the water in a bowl to blood, what will you call it? Miracle? But no, that's magic. For, whatever will make GOD transform water to blood shows the full wrath of GOD.

It is funny how people are quick to disqualify existence of God but will never make time out to check the scriptures themselves to find out answers. These same people will make time to watch reality show, but abandon the care of their own souls. What a pity

chocberry:
Have you come to think that in the absence of witnessing, that people are judged in accordance to the standard of " righteousness " in the generation, i.e. if 500 years ago the gospel was not widespread, in such times are good and bad people, now, the people of that generation shold be judged by their deeds, i.e. if one could be good, why was the other bad? God is accurate and is holistic in His judgement and will never punish the innocent. Anyone in hell deserves to be there

If I understood well enough,

You're saying... God has no fixed set of rules that should govern the way of the righteous and actually define what righteousness is?

He gave the ten commandments. Yes there were some other things he instructed written here and there in the Bible.
But are all these commandments and instructions really subjective ?

A liar who has never heard of God is better than a liar who has heard of God?

3nim:
If I understood well enough,

You're saying... God has no fixed set of rules that should govern the way of the righteous and actually define what righteousness is?

He gave the ten commandments. Yes there were some other things he instructed written here and there in the Bible.
But are all these commandments and instructions really subjective ?

A liar who has never heard of God is better than a liar who has heard of God?

Not what i meant, true out the history of mankind, every community has established doctrines and set of rules to guide the lives of people. Thus, it affirms what Paul preached about the law. People who didnt get to hear of Him then would be judged by the law, the law of standard in their time and domain, for example, it is enshrined in every generation throughout all mankind that stealing is a crime. If a man dies 14 B.C. and was a thief by that time, he should die for his offense, cause even in his condition, there were hard working people. SO those that lived in dispensations like that are judged by the law of the period. Simple

chocberry:
I'm quitting business, i'm closing up all my businesses in the next 3 months and will tentatively communicate all i've seen.


Fear not bro, for this generation the Lord has been training some force for the past 15 years plus, the next set of kingdom superheroes will start been released soon.

I'm a part of a team with a tactical and sophisticated mission, we will come out the moment He releases. This generation is covered with the guys i see in preparation, i've seen some amazing teams He's raising, so i understand the place of timing and strategy cause He also functions in Kairos moments that makes results more significant.

Also, it hasn't been easy, the devil is trying to kill the young ministers that are sent, i've personally had at least 5-7 near-death experiences that took whiskers to come out of. It's a full-scale warfare to stop us before we hit the spotlight.


I've seen many of the armies the Lord is training behind the scene, get ready for the generation with a billion soul convert. The warfare behind is much, but we're doing our best !

You're right.
I see the saving hands of the LORD when HE rescued me from the raw claws of death several times.
I'd turn again to see if I'm still really alive or not.
But I know all has a reason because when I was around the age of 15, I've never told an outsider this before. I saw the LORD JESUS CHRIST in my dream. HIS appearance was like the maximum energy of lightning. HIS face was so shiny bright that immediately I was fallen at HIS feet like someone half dead.
I could not look up to HIS face even though I tried to. You know, when alive, you'd feel like being so happy to see HIM in just a vision? Yes! But that isn't the case. I was in deep trembling and fear because I can know I've seen what is beyond me.
I can feel HIS eyes fixed on me for some time without HIM saying anything. This feeling alone increases my fear that I was already crying in the dream. I'll choose not to say more than this because all HE did afterwards and what HE tod me, I'll like to keep personal.

chocberry:
It is funny how people are quick to disqualify existence of God but will never make time out to check the scriptures themselves to find out answers. These same people will make time to watch reality show, but abandon the care of their own souls. What a pity

The fact that YOU have had an experience or that YOU believe in God doesn't mean that the Existence of God is the elephant in everyone's room.

You know how ridiculous you might think the story that tortoise fell from the sky and broke his shell is?

If we liked, we could tell people that were were physically and mentally there when he fell. But it's just wacky enough for people to doubt. they'd think were lying.

But imagine someone being gullible enough to believe us? Now imagine that person being receiving salvation while the others burn in hell for not believing.

Tortoise falling from the sky, water turning into wine, a 3 day old corpse coming back to life, you actually seeing a place called hell. People aren't exactly being careless with their souls for doubting.

MistadeRegal:
You're right.
I see the saving hands of the LORD when HE rescued me from the raw claws of death several times.
I'd turn again to see if I'm still really alive or not.
But I know all has a reason because when I was around the age of 15, I've never told an outsider this before. I saw the LORD JESUS CHRIST in my dream. HIS appearance was like the maximum energy of lightning. HIS face was so shiny bright that immediately I was fallen at HIS feet like someone half dead.
I could not look up to HIS face even though I tried to. You know, when alive, you'd feel like being so happy to see HIM in just a vision? Yes! But that isn't the case. I was in deep trembling and fear because I can know I've seen what is beyond me.
I can feel HIS eyes fixed on me for some time without HIM saying anything. This feeling alone increases my fear that I was already crying in the dream. I'll choose not to say more than this because all HE did afterwards and what HE tod me, I'll like to keep personal.

Lucky you. The devil assigned some of his fine men on my trail. If i explain the attacks i get, i will not speak much on this here, but rather for Christ. All i can say is i've been walking side by side with death since 7 years plus now. The devil knows the ones the Lord has chosen to speak to the young generation and has begun attacking them already before they hit the spotlight. The era of the old guards is coming to an end, from this year, the new guards will be released. It's a glorious era, the era of one billion converts globally, i've seen things deep in the future, so for the immorality of the present i don't let it worry me, it's just a phase. Brace up, we're stepping into a brighter dispensation

3nim:
If you ask, you'll go there o. Stay prayerful and woke

Lol
That's an ignorant answer
Simple it doesn't exist

chocberry:
It is funny how people are quick to disqualify existence of God but will never make time out to check the scriptures themselves to find out answers. These same people will make time to watch reality show, but abandon the care of their own souls. What a pity

Seriously.
I've watched people so much engross in discussing or commenting on lusts than whatever pertains to GOD. When they come across it, they'd turn and derail it in disbelief.
I've watched threads that has to do with romance/immorality have long queues of comments but that which is of GOD empty. They'd only read and ignore.
I see why JESUS CHRIST told me GOD the FATHER has decided to return everything back to eternity because the sins of men has become unbearable to GOD. And to achieve that, HE will have to rule out mortality. That is why HE has come over to the World to show them the way to not being included among those things that GOD would no longer need in the new Earth.

Toks2008:
I operate in the prophetic ministry so Yes GOD just asked me to tell him this and this thread came to me also as a revelation just as my other threads on salvation.

Most guys making funny comments will accept Jesus as lord and saviour after reading this.

I'm not joking about this
. can you get a revelation for me?

kassano22:
Lol
That's an ignorant answer
Simple it doesn't exist

* A sarcastic answer