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EchoCharlie:
Are you the son of a Yoruba pastor?

I am a Yoruba but not a pastor son

Lala234:
Seun, lalasticlala, juetwise and mynd44 I think it's high time you add standard to your site by making sure all post on it are authentic and real.

Nairaland is now like a place where false info is being read at the main page.
Learn from other sites dude
You've got to really learn!!

Don't mind them it is deliberate, they certainly has a mission and they shall surely be put to shame,I remember when a man reading the Qur'an and drinking orijin was deleted but seun mynd44 lalasticlala didn't have MB to watch 5 mins video before pushing it to front-page, they are simply mischievous.

profolaolu:
Mumu did U listen to what he said. Eleribu Are u sick or something, so the idiot deceive U 2,where did Pastor Kumuyi said he will change any doctrine, he was talking of marriage committee and women ministry not doctrine

Na ur fada be Eleribu. Oloriburiku, omo alainiran. Oru were bi tie ni won fin borisa ni Modakeke. Alaineko, ashigbe world. Ok, with that said, go an lick kumuyi yansh till e dry. Werey.

wh

DL just begins their new testament. Positive impact of free the sheeples

SmartMugu:
Na ur fada be Eleribu. Oloriburiku, omo alainiran. Oru were bi tie ni won fin borisa ni Modakeke. Alaineko, ashigbe world. Ok, with that said, go an lick kumuyi yansh till e dry. Werey.

oloshi abiiko magbo bii aka,omo to tii fii atoo were bi, omo pau bii ibon,alarun opolo,oloshi, awi tan o n pe baba bii alafishe,mi o baa e wi, baba saan lo bi eiye no,nigba to fun mama re loyun in garage oko, Iwo omo asuta omo nobii, omo olori dikoto aburo sumonu,alako were lara

SmartMugu:
Religious manipulations. Why create the doctrines in the first place if they cannot be defended with verses in the bible?

Does anyone need anyone to interpret the bible for them? Why then do they need to adapt to misinterpretations from those that initially interpreted the verses for them?

I don't blame those that don't go to church anymore, too much confusion from different denominations.

Yet some people consume all these manufactured doctrines hook, line and sinker.

that's Christianity for you, nothing has basis

nathanccr:
Smh for your insensitivity

I rebuke you in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Lord please have mercy on his damned soul before it is too late.

sonofluc1fer:
All glory to Satan. Light is beginning to shine on the demonic stronghold called Christianity. Ramen.


I plead the blood of Satan over every angelic withcraft coming from Yahweh. May every Jewish cross hanging over your life be broken, the way Holy Spirit broke Mary's virginity. I fire ballistic missiles at the 12 hosts of heaven. I bind and rebuke all heavenly principalties, I bind the Lion of Judah, the great opressor, he who was killed be three nails, concerning you reading this, I cast away the Holy Spirit from your life. Take Glory Satan. May the work you've begun on Nairaland grow, from Daddy Freeze to Small boy Adeboye.

Ramen.

who is this attention-seeking demented fool?

hermosa7:
You people are so silly and uneducated in the things of God. The man is talking about removing administrative processes he set up and not doctrines.

Fool, why set administrative processes when every conduct is supposed to be guided only by the Bible and not by one’s intuition

This freeze guy is an idiot! Kumuyi talked about this about five years ago. The thing was every where when he talked about removing some MAN-MADE LAWS and not the 22 doctrines which the church have been preaching.

Tokziby:
When doctrines were made by god of men and they claim God spoke to them.

Now that he's planning to remove, did his god also told to remove it??

The God that i know doesnt make mistake and does not do revised edition,cos He is yesterday, Today, tomorrow and forever. And He never make mistakes of addition or subtraction of His laws according to times and ages. SMH...

did you watch that video? If u did, i wonder where dis comment is coming from. Where did he say he was changing the church doctrine? Do you even know the meaning of doctrine? He specifically mentioned two scenarios, 1, the church marriage committee(an administrative arm of the church handling marriage issues) wch he said it is was his own making. How is dat a doctrine? Secondly he talked about the women ministry wch is also set up to train women on their responsibilities in the home front, like teaching them how to cook, skill acquisition such as soap making, tie and dye etc nd d pastor specifically mentioned them. He then said they were bringing worldliness into the church how do u call such an administrative set up a doctrine? Doctrine are core biblical beliefs of any church. If he had said deeperlife no more believed in virgin birth of Christ, Trinity, water baptism, Holiness, salvation tru the death of Jesus etc then dat would have been doctrine. I wonder how u guys comprehend or you are just after the likes and shares you would get from the post?

profolaolu:
oloshi abiiko magbo bii aka,omo to tii fii atoo were bi, omo pau bii ibon,alarun opolo,oloshi, awi tan o n pe baba bii alafishe,mi o baa e wi, baba saan lo bi eiye no,nigba to fun mama re loyun in garage oko, Iwo omo asuta omo nobii, omo olori dikoto aburo sumonu,alako were lara

Awon were to bi e ati gbogbo agbole yin lon bawi. See this id.iot and how him face resemble placenta. I no talk to you, why you and your yeye ancestors dey find my trouble? E no go better for all of una together at once. Go lick kumuyi yansh since na him create u. Mad man, sheeple.

sonofluc1fer:
All glory to Satan. Light is beginning to shine on the demonic stronghold called Christianity. Ramen.


I plead the blood of Satan over every angelic withcraft coming from Yahweh. May every Jewish cross hanging over your life be broken, the way Holy Spirit broke Mary's virginity. I fire ballistic missiles at the 12 hosts of heaven. I bind and rebuke all heavenly principalties, I bind the Lion of Judah, the great opressor, he who was killed be three nails, concerning you reading this, I cast away the Holy Spirit from your life. Take Glory Satan. May the work you've begun on Nairaland grow, from Daddy Freeze to Small boy Adeboye.

Ramen.

and na person write this kind thing

sonofluc1fer:
All glory to Satan. Light is beginning to shine on the demonic stronghold called Christianity. Ramen.


I plead the blood of Satan over every angelic withcraft coming from Yahweh. May every Jewish cross hanging over your life be broken, the way Holy Spirit broke Mary's virginity. I fire ballistic missiles at the 12 hosts of heaven. I bind and rebuke all heavenly principalties, I bind the Lion of Judah, the great opressor, he who was killed be three nails, concerning you reading this, I cast away the Holy Spirit from your life. Take Glory Satan. May the work you've begun on Nairaland grow, from Daddy Freeze to Small boy Adeboye.

Ramen.

and na person write this kind thing

EchoCharlie:
If I encourage you to give all your savings to your fraudulent pastor will you stay off my mentions? I eagerly await your response

Whatever pleases you do.

You don't have that authority to call anybody sny name for paying tithe to their God.

So ti gbo.

Mr Falana gbo tire, tara eni la n gbo

Tokziby:
Do i need any proof since every god of men claims to receive a calling to lead people. So how did he came about creation of a doctrine, addition and subtraction, if he wasn't inspired or got a call from his god??

Or he's probably an ordinary man doing whatever he likes with his ministry without being inspired by anything??

I will advise you to listen to the whole message to get a clarity of what the Pastor was passing accross not the misleading headline Daddy freezer gave it.

SarcasticMe:
It is appalling to see some churches laying great emphasis on tithes and paying less concern to the subject of holiness. It is these kind of churches that justify Freeze's argument. But Freeze's argument is wrong; and only wrong can justify wrong.

Pastors who lay so much emphasis on tithes do so because of the levite laws. That's where they shoot themselves, because the "law" doesn't bind us as Christians; which justifies Freeze's stance.
But, tithe paying preceded the Mosaic law. Abraham paid his tithe to Melchizedek, a priest of God (Gen. 14:20/ Hebrews 7)... Melchizedek, of course was a worthy priest, unlike many fake pastors we have these days. Here's my message to Christians, who face a dilemma concerning tithing:
Pay your tithes to your pastor for a job well done. If his teachings and intercessions have brought you closer to God. (Mind you, some pastors are doing their job very well. It's just some members who are not willing to adhere.)
But... If you're tricked into paying your tithes because you expect prosperity and blessings, and you are not living a holy life, either of these two things will happen:
-It's either you keep paying tithe and nothing happens. You continue to wallow in poverty. If this is your case, you should reexamine your spiritual life and get closer to God.
-Or the prosperity comes as expected. Then you should know that it is not from God. When you prosper in sin, it is a sign that your soul is at risk of eternal damnation.

The bottom line is, live a holy life and pay your tithes, bearing in mind that it is for the upkeep of your pastor; the pastor who prays for you and leads you in the path of righteousness. But... You're not compelled to do so. It is not by force.

I also have to note... When you're not living a holy life, your faith will be at the mercy of sugar-coated tongues. Most of these don't speak the truth, but because you are not even pursuing righteousness, you'll end up confused at the end of the day.

So why did christ and the apostles and early christians chose to abandon tithing that preceeded the law？ Why did Paul make it clear that it has nothing absolutely to do with christians and he taught his followers about freewill giving？
Why is it up to modern day pastors to remind their followers that tithing predates the law even when nothing like that is stated in the bible？ Whose theory is this？

Jesus and the apostles werd the first christian leaders,and any christian must follow their footsteps,they operated and lived at a time tithe was paid and received by non christian judaism religion,but they as christians neither paid nor received because they were not quified nor entitled to do so. So when did this become a christian tradition if christian originators and progenitors rejected it？

GoodMuyis:
Oya Everyone Lineup make we sing Deeper Life Anthem and Shame Devil Freeze

Jesus only is our message,
Jesus all our theme shall be;
We will lift up Jesus ever,
Jesus only will we see.

Jesus only, Jesus ever,
Jesus all in all we sing,
Savior, Sanctifier, and Healer,
Glorious Lord and coming King.

Jesus only is our Savior,
All our guilt He bore away,
He, our righteousness forever,
All our strength from day to day.

Jesus is our Sanctifier,
Saving us from self and sin,
And with all His Spirit’s fulness,
Filling all our hearts within.

Jesus only is our Healer,
All our sicknesses He bare,
And His risen life and fulness,
All His members still may share.

Jesus only is our Power,
He the gift of Pentecost;
Jesus, breathe Thy pow’r upon us,
Fill us with the Holy Ghost.

And for Jesus we are waiting,
List’ning for the Advent Call;
But ’twill still be Jesus only,
Jesus ever, all in all.

Caution: I am Proudly DLBC Member, Proudly Kumuyist, Kumuyism is running in my blood thats why am Good..Muyis

Follow JESUS CHRIST. Not your shepherds.

SarcasticMe:
It is appalling to see some churches laying great emphasis on tithes and paying less concern to the subject of holiness. It is these kind of churches that justify Freeze's argument. But Freeze's argument is wrong; and only wrong can justify wrong.

Pastors who lay so much emphasis on tithes do so because of the levite laws. That's where they shoot themselves, because the "law" doesn't bind us as Christians; which justifies Freeze's stance.
But, tithe paying preceded the Mosaic law. Abraham paid his tithe to Melchizedek, a priest of God (Gen. 14:20/ Hebrews 7)... Melchizedek, of course was a worthy priest, unlike many fake pastors we have these days. Here's my message to Christians, who face a dilemma concerning tithing:
Pay your tithes to your pastor for a job well done. If his teachings and intercessions have brought you closer to God. (Mind you, some pastors are doing their job very well. It's just some members who are not willing to adhere.)
But... If you're tricked into paying your tithes because you expect prosperity and blessings, and you are not living a holy life, either of these two things will happen:
-It's either you keep paying tithe and nothing happens. You continue to wallow in poverty. If this is your case, you should reexamine your spiritual life and get closer to God.
-Or the prosperity comes as expected. Then you should know that it is not from God. When you prosper in sin, it is a sign that your soul is at risk of eternal damnation.

The bottom line is, live a holy life and pay your tithes, bearing in mind that it is for the upkeep of your pastor; the pastor who prays for you and leads you in the path of righteousness. But... You're not compelled to do so. It is not by force.

I also have to note... When you're not living a holy life, your faith will be at the mercy of sugar-coated tongues. Most of these don't speak the truth, but because you are not even pursuing righteousness, you'll end up confused at the end of the day.

So why did christ,his apostles and early christians fail to realise that tithing predates the law while rejecting it and replacing it with freewill giving？
Is a Nigerian pastor trying to improve on the activities of his progenitors and originators by inventing this theory？

SmartMugu:
Religious manipulations. Why create the doctrines in the first place if they cannot be defended with verses in the bible?

Does anyone need anyone to interpret the bible for them? Why then do they need to adapt to misinterpretations from those that initially misinterpreted the verses for them? Same bible has been interpreted in millions of ways by all these prophets, some are now trying to make corrections forgetting some of their sheeples already passed their incorrect doctrines on to the kids and siblings. Nonsense.

I don't blame those that don't go to church anymore, too much confusion from different denominations.

Yet some people consume all these manufactured doctrines hook, line and sinker.

Reality.

Good for his members.
Deeper Life frustrated ma Christian life between 2009 and 2015, i was a devoted member, worship God without bias, i try to ignore so many of dia hatred doctrine by d members.
All they wanted was to ruin ma life during baptism, i attended baptism class almost four month, sat for oral nd written test after dt i stayed for abt 3months without hearing anytink.
D day i didnt attend church dat's wen d baptism took place, wen i complain d said it wsnt real repentance !
I left dia church nd worship in another church, i ws baptise dat same day.
I wish dem well anyway!

MistadeRegal:
Follow JESUS CHRIST. Not your shepherds.

You didn't see Jesus all over the post you quoted?

I wonder why they took the revd's message out of context... Prolly did it deliberately to get attention...abi they intend to free the sheeples by misinforming n misdirecting them.... Smh

IMASTEX:
I have often stated that "Nigerian "Christians" are more religious than been a Christian."

My practice of Christianity starts & ends with love "to God & my neighbours". And I don't need any man made doctrines or interpretations to achieve that, the bible is my guide translated in several languages for easy understanding with the ministration of the holy spirit. I have the option of reading in English & French.

You have said it all, shikena.

Tokziby:
When doctrines were made by god of men and they claim God spoke to them.

Now that he's planning to remove, did his god also told to remove it??

The God that i know doesnt make mistake and does not do revised edition,cos He is yesterday, Today, tomorrow and forever. And He never make mistakes of addition or subtraction of His laws according to times and ages. SMH...

In that video, kumuyi didn't say God told him to put those doctrines. He said he put those doctrines with the hope that it will help his church members to grow deeper in Christ.

Don't see anything wrong in it.

Vision is progressive not static ,the reason we have old and new testament.

God and his commission (principle) is the same but the "process" can change

Florblu:
Who let this dog out?

Dog? Coming from a follower of Christ? What kind of joke. You guys are the dogs eating Yahweh's stool.

chysam:
So why did christ and the apostles and early christians chose to abandon tithing that preceeded the law？ [b] Why did Paul make it clear [/b]that it has nothing absolutely to do with christians and he taught his followers about freewill giving？
Why is it up to modern day pastors to remind their followers that tithing predates the law even when nothing like that is stated in the bible？ Whose theory is this？

Jesus and the apostles werd the first christian leaders,and any christian must follow their footsteps,they operated and lived at a time tithe was paid and received by non christian judaism religion,but they as christians neither paid nor received because they were not quified nor entitled to do so. So when did this become a christian tradition if christian originators and progenitors rejected it？

Which scripture is that?

SarcasticMe:
It is appalling to see some churches laying great emphasis on tithes and paying less concern to the subject of holiness. It is these kind of churches that justify Freeze's argument. But Freeze's argument is wrong; and only wrong can justify wrong.

Pastors who lay so much emphasis on tithes do so because of the levite laws. That's where they shoot themselves, because the "law" doesn't bind us as Christians; which justifies Freeze's stance.
But, tithe paying preceded the Mosaic law. Abraham paid his tithe to Melchizedek, a priest of God (Gen. 14:20/ Hebrews 7)... Melchizedek, of course was a worthy priest, unlike many fake pastors we have these days. Here's my message to Christians, who face a dilemma concerning tithing:
Pay your tithes to your pastor for a job well done. If his teachings and intercessions have brought you closer to God. (Mind you, some pastors are doing their job very well. It's just some members who are not willing to adhere.)
But... If you're tricked into paying your tithes because you expect prosperity and blessings, and you are not living a holy life, either of these two things will happen:
-It's either you keep paying tithe and nothing happens. You continue to wallow in poverty. If this is your case, you should reexamine your spiritual life and get closer to God.
-Or the prosperity comes as expected. Then you should know that it is not from God. When you prosper in sin, it is a sign that your soul is at risk of eternal damnation.

The bottom line is, live a holy life and pay your tithes, bearing in mind that it is for the upkeep of your pastor; the pastor who prays for you and leads you in the path of righteousness. But... You're not compelled to do so. It is not by force.

I also have to note... When you're not living a holy life, your faith will be at the mercy of sugar-coated tongues. Most of these don't speak the truth, but because you are not even pursuing righteousness, you'll end up confused at the end of the day.

Tithe has no connection with Christianity. The upkeep of the pastor is well described in the new testament. It isn't through tithe but through normal free-will giving. I'm sure you know where such things are written in the scriptures.

Listen to the Full gospel by Joshua Selman its a message i recommend for every denomination of Christianity

Tokziby:
When doctrines were made by god of men and they claim God spoke to them.
Now that he's planning to remove, did his god also told to remove it??


[color=darkblue]The God that i know doesnt make mistake and does not do revised edition,cos He is yesterday, Today, tomorrow and forever. And He never make mistakes of addition or subtraction of His laws according to times and ages. SMH...[/color]

From the Old Testament God of war, terror, genocide, fury, anger and serial killing, to the New Testament God of unconditional love, sheepishness, foolishness, meekness and pacifism.

You still think your God doesn't change? Not only does he change----whenever he does, it has a [color=darkgreen]100% range[/color].

Such a capricious, irrational deity is too unreliable and inconsistent to be trusted. He might change into something different again tomorrow. His words can't be trusted.

MistadeRegal:
Follow JESUS CHRIST. Not your shepherds.

THE LORD IS MY SHEPHERD Kumuyi is my mentor and father His teaching had great influence on me We bare same name Am GoodMuyis and a kumuyist