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Bishop Okonkwo Speaks On Tithing by sportivation(m): 1:37pm On Mar 07, 2018 |
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Re: Bishop Okonkwo Speaks On Tithing by BushWickBill: 5:02pm On Mar 07, 2018 |
My problem with this. TREM used to have tithe cards. Meaning they made it compulsory. but it's good he is speaking against the coercion. |
Re: Bishop Okonkwo Speaks On Tithing by MuttleyLaff: 9:05pm On Mar 07, 2018 |
BushWickBill:I actually watched him on this YouTube video sometime last year, admitting quite a few wrongs he did like, scaring people about repercussions of not tithing etcetera. He even said, when he embarked on lifting the lid on false teachings and practices of ecclesiastical monitised tithing, some of his inner caucus members tried to caution him, claiming finances will cease and dry up. He said, of course, finance dwindled, in the beginning after he opened up to church members, but at least his conscience was clear, he was doing the right thing and he was standing right with God He further said, the church isn't his, so it was left to God to see to the financial needs of His church, that all he will and had to do, is to teach right. At the end of the confession, I stood up and gave him a standing ovation but my euphoria suddenly nose dived at something he then said, and I heard myself muttering and asking; why, why, why did you have to spoil something so good and beautiful, with this now? 1 Like |
Re: Bishop Okonkwo Speaks On Tithing by BushWickBill: 11:22pm On Mar 07, 2018 |
MuttleyLaff:This post summarizes everything that is wrong with the pro-tithe movement very aptly Believers are made to feel that compulsory tithing is what drives the church. It is going to be hard to eradicate that mentality. But again he in my view isn't doing the tithe question complete justice. You and I know that tithing is null and void. References to Abraham giving a tenth to Melchizedek are not necessary because it didn't fall in line with God's commandment on paying tithe. Just like paying a 10thof your wages is not specified anywhere. But at least he is bursting the bubble for those other "missions" that claim they keep you from being poor by taking your money away. Pray tell can you share what he said that burst your morale |
Re: Bishop Okonkwo Speaks On Tithing by MuttleyLaff: 12:40am On Mar 08, 2018 |
BushWickBill: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGtqAlBlzLM This is one of the two videos, I watched last year I dont know where you at, but just you know, its an over a hour YouTube video Brilliant video, I couldnt fault, not that I had any mission to Anyway, the part about tithing started at the last five minutes of the video |
Re: Bishop Okonkwo Speaks On Tithing by BushWickBill: 12:42am On Mar 08, 2018 |
MuttleyLaff:Thanks so much On duty right now. Will watch when free. He used to be my pastor in the early to mid 2000s. |
Re: Bishop Okonkwo Speaks On Tithing by MuttleyLaff: 12:49am On Mar 08, 2018 |
BushWickBill:After watching it, let me know what you think, it was he said, that burst my euphoria |
Re: Bishop Okonkwo Speaks On Tithing by BushWickBill: 1:11am On Mar 08, 2018 |
MuttleyLaff:ed Will do so sir Most likely later on in the day Will try to scrutinize the message as thoroughly as I can |
Re: Bishop Okonkwo Speaks On Tithing by MuttleyLaff: 1:20am On Mar 08, 2018 |
BushWickBill:Dont over do it though whilst at it Tip. It was towards the end, you'll miss noticing it, if you blink, sneeze or cough though |
Re: Bishop Okonkwo Speaks On Tithing by BushWickBill: 2:09am On Mar 08, 2018 |
MuttleyLaff:Thanks for the heads up I normally try to pay attention to matters like these to avoid being subliminally hoodwinked. But I will take your advice. I intend listening to the whole clip to try to gain some perspective on his point of view as per the subject but I will be on the edge towards the end as you pointed out Meanwhile what about your former co-debaters Gombs joagbaje Image123 et al? Any news from MarkMiwerds? I used to follow your debates on tithing and some of the insight I gained on the topic were from you and Mark Those debates died down for a while till this sort of awakening on the issue brought it to the fore |
Re: Bishop Okonkwo Speaks On Tithing by BushWickBill: 11:52am On Mar 08, 2018 |
MuttleyLaff:I heard it. From 1:06:57 " When you receive Grace, no one will beg you. . . no one will tell people "pay their tithe"..." From then on he tried to justify why he preached the message of "pay tithe of be cursed" as being product of a background, instead of accepting full responsibility. He then said it's a matter of how your heart is. Which is the issue I have with these people slowly crawling out to offer some sort of mea culpa on this tithing thing. No one wantsto fully take ownership of the fact that they have been preaching and teaching an error. He then started to talk about himself and his "reputation". . . .which was kind of sad because it isn't about him as well. 1 Like |
Re: Bishop Okonkwo Speaks On Tithing by Goshen360(m): 3:11pm On Mar 08, 2018 |
MuttleyLaff: Couple of things as to why why in your last paragraph: Could be traditions of men passed down from church to church without learning and studying the truth for themselves. Man trying to help God do His job Bad caucus Zeal without knowledge....e.g Kumuyi... My little cents |
Re: Bishop Okonkwo Speaks On Tithing by Image123(m): 4:18pm On Mar 08, 2018 |
BushWickBill:What? |
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