If we play the way we played chelsea,

Real or Bayern will knock us out,

I was amazed at how chelsea controlled long periods of the game and created a lot of goal scoring chances.


We can't win this tournament playing like that!

tesppidd:
If we play the way we played chelsea,

Real or Bayern will knock us out,

I was amazed at how chelsea controlled long periods of the game and created a lot of goal scoring chances.


We can't win this tournament playing like that!

Iniesta wasn't fully fit hence the quick removal, busquets got injured as well. Suarez is misfiring, if these players can get fully fit on time and our 9 finds his mojo while others aren't sleeping then we should be good to go. I wouldn't us to meet Bayern and Man city tho

FBS:

Where you see rant now? you want tell me say we no play well? highly stupid individual mistakes led to the defeat plus I wonder how much una pay Fabregas for his show of shame.

Honestly, una exceed my expectations. But like we said about Camp Nuo having a larger area, some of you were on about how Camp Nuo is just a fraction bigger than Stamford Bridge in terms of length and breadth, which was wrong because the focus was more about the area and not just mere length and breadth.

Anyway, the larger area was evident with Chelsea having a vast space to cover as opposed to how it was in Bridge. More so, the fact you guys needed the match not to end in a scoreless draw was another factor to draw you guys out of your box, which in turn left lots of spaces to exploit.

Moreso, individual mistakes. It happens so if you have the bulk of time defending or thinking about not to make any mistake. Talk about obsession. It gets stuck in your subconscious mind and in turn might have some nasty effect when triggered.

But about the play, you guys did very well, I must admit. Over 2 legs finding the post 4 times means a lot, plus other goal scoring opportunities you guys created.

As for Fab...

I feel like our players didn't expect the onslaught from Chelsea, I was also surprised. I feel we'd be more prepared and composed if we were to meet a team like Bayern or Man City. This Chelsea tie was more like an eye opener.

BTW, we should expect the worst from today's draw.

Real Madrid
Liverpool
Manchester City
Juventus
Sevilla
Roma
Barcelona
Bayern Munich

My predictions -
Real Madrid vs Roma
Barcelona vs Juventus
Bayern Munich vs Manchester city
Liverpool vs Sevilla.

tesppidd:
If we play the way we played chelsea,

Real or Bayern will knock us out,

I was amazed at how chelsea controlled long periods of the game and created a lot of goal scoring chances.


We can't win this tournament playing like that!

It was the game plan.

Surely, the chelsea team that struggled to get a miserly 29% of ball possession in their own home didn't suddenly become so good as to be chunking a huge 43% in our home.

In the 1st leg, we spent a lot of time with the ball without creating any real chances. Chelsea on the other hand were able to catch our team in compromising 2v3 situations a couple of times leading to yellow cards to rakitic and busquet. It was obvious their game plan was to catch us on dangerous counters which was why Conte chose to start with a fast player like Pedro and played hazard as a false 9 so he could always drop deep to launch those counters.

EV had to device a plan to counter this, that is why he allowed them a part of the possession. His plan was, if we allow chelsea time on the ball and allow them play some useless passes, they'd not be able to play to their plan which was counter-attack.
EV prioritized those who should be allowed time on the ball and those who shouldn't.

Notice how Victor Moses was given much space because he wasn't seen as a threat, but immediately hazard or William held the ball, we always tried to close in as soon as we could.

That was the plan, allow them hold possession with the less dangerous players, soak the pressure, just don't let the ball get to the dangerous players. That is what we call useless possession and it was what barca had in the 1st leg.

If we had come into the game with the intention of controlling the ball possession, chelsea would have gone into defensive mode and try to catch us on counters. By allowing them time on the ball, they played into our hands, notice that the second and third goal came from misplaced passes chelsea players made when they were passing the ball around and keeping possession.

Bayern is the only team I wouldn't like barca to draw presently, to avoid stories that touch.with utmost sincerity, do you think Real Madrid or man city will knock out this valverde's barca?this current Barcelona ain't the one that play in order to get the most possession in a match,or aim to play beautiful football even when you are losing,Hell no!this Barcelona team go straight to business from the first minute,or should we talk about the defensive solidity,even attackers ain't left out in the defense,just look at the tackle dembele pulled against M.Alonso when it appeared he was already clean through on goal.Even the foolish bald man(zidane) and the wise bald man (Guardiola)wouldn't pray to draw us presently,juventus coach also had to admit that he doesnt want his team to draw barca in the UCL quarter final after his team had knocked out totenham in the round of 16,that should speak volume,you know?or do you think for a team to have had over 42games unbeaten and over 25clean sheets,were by accident or luck?.But all the same, we all know the team today's draw would favour,but it's still uefalona

But still......

MES QUE UN CLUB!

We'll control possession when we want to and cede possession when we want.

Our defense have proven to be able to withstand marauding attacks. The real danger is when we are caught on counters as could be seen against eibar when Umtiti couldn't chase their striker.

homesteady:
Real Madrid
Liverpool
Manchester City
Juventus
Sevilla
Roma
Barcelona
Bayern Munich

My predictions -
Real Madrid vs Roma
Barcelona vs Juventus
Bayern Munich vs Manchester city
Liverpool vs Sevilla.

you couldn't have spoken my mind more bro!

homesteady:
Real Madrid
Liverpool
Manchester City
Juventus
Sevilla
Roma
Barcelona
Bayern Munich

My predictions -
Real Madrid vs Roma
Barcelona vs Juventus
Bayern Munich vs Manchester city
Liverpool vs Sevilla.

Barcelona vs Juventus and Liverpool vs Sevilla already played in the group stages so I doubt it will happen at least not yet. Secondly, there are three Spanish teams so two might face each other and I expect it to be Real Madrid vs Sevilla.


Any team besides Bayern and Man city is okay by me.

tesppidd:
If we play the way we played chelsea,

Real or Bayern will knock us out,

I was amazed at how chelsea controlled long periods of the game and created a lot of goal scoring chances.


We can't win this tournament playing like that!

You spoke my mind bro, The way Chelsea dominated the play is a great concern. Imagine a city or bayern team dominating us like dat, omo na yawa ooo, chelsea exceeded my expectation they tried their best to say the least.

i'm concerned about our midfid,we dont have enough password to unlock their stubborn defence over both legs just playing safe passes here and there, if not for their individual mistakes and the genius of messi it would have been a different story.

SerVik:

It was the game plan.

Surely, the chelsea team that struggled to get a miserly 29% of ball possession in their own home didn't suddenly become so good as to be chunking a huge 43% in our home.

In the 1st leg, we spent a lot of time with the ball without creating any real chances. Chelsea on the other hand were able to catch our team in compromising 2v3 situations a couple of times leading to yellow cards to rakitic and busquet. It was obvious their game plan was to catch us on dangerous counters which was why Conte chose to start with a fast player like Pedro and played hazard as a false 9 so he could always drop deep to launch those counters.

EV had to device a plan to counter this, that is why he allowed them a part of the possession. His plan was, if we allow chelsea time on the ball and allow them play some useless passes, they'd not be able to play to their plan which was counter-attack.
EV prioritized those who should be allowed time on the ball and those who shouldn't.

Notice how Victor Moses was given much space because he wasn't seen as a threat, but immediately hazard or William held the ball, we always tried to close in as soon as we could.

That was the plan, allow them hold possession with the less dangerous players, soak the pressure, just don't let the ball get to the dangerous players. That is what we call useless possession and it was what barca had in the 1st leg.

If we had come into the game with the intention of controlling the ball possession, chelsea would have gone into defensive mode and try to catch us on counters. By allowing them time on the ball, they played into our hands, notice that the second and third goal game from misplaced passes chelsea players made when they were passing the ball around and keeping possession.

Aptly put. EV brought up a be-genius idea and it worked. This wouldn't work against a team like Man City but when you know your opposition and study how they play, it's great to device a plan to counter them in order to have an edge. This is what birthed ultra defensive tactics against possession obsessed teams

I want a classico quter final please,i dont trust any biiiitch again to stop madrid.From bayern to mancity to juve i trust none, we should do the job ourselve ,they were fortunate not to have drawn us in their back to back UCL run for once probably we would have shared the trophies between us.

ollah2:



Aptly put. EV brought up a be-genius idea and it worked. This wouldn't work against a team like Man City but when you know your opposition and study how they play, it's great to device a plan to counter them in order to have an edge. This is what birthed ultra defensive tactics against a possession obsessed teams

Barca would never give city or Bayern that much time on the ball.

With chelsea, it is very dicey. If they sense that you're a possession based team and want to control possession, they'd go into ultra defensive mode. Conserve their energy and try to hit you on counter. That was how they played against city and barca 1st leg. And if you allow chelsea to pack their double decker, you'd be lucky to get a goal.

With city and Bayern, it is totally a different ball game. They would want to match us strength for strength. If we give them possession, they'll hurt us. EV knows this.

I don't understand what some of you are saying here. That the way Chelsea had the ball for some periods of time in the match was concerning. Really? Iniesta and Busquets were taken off early in the game. And I thought we were supposed to expect that after the 1-1 draw at Stamford Bridge? For them to come out and take the game to us?


I also think this talk about the mistakes they made is exaggeration. Fine, they made mistakes. But those mistakes were as a result of pressure from our players. Messi stole the ball off Fab to assist Dembouz. Fab didn't mistakenly pass to Messi. RuffRuggedRaw said something on this thread during the match about how he likes this Valverde Barcelona. He said something about balance and I agree with him.


Chelsea had that little spell of possession because that was what we wanted. Simple.

SerVik:
We'll control possession when we want to and cede possession when we want.

Our defense have proven to be able to withstand marauding attacks. The real danger is when we are caught on counters as could be seen against eibar when Umtiti couldn't chase their striker.

True! We'd control If we want to, depending on what is needed at that moment.

During the 1st leg, we had so much of possession, yet the match ended 1-1. Now we had less possession - 3:0. Anybody that decides to attack Barcelona voraciously is doing it at their own peril.

ollah2:


Barcelona vs Juventus and Liverpool vs Sevilla already played in the group stages so I doubt it will happen at least not yet. Secondly, there are three Spanish teams so two might face each other and I expect it to be Real Madrid vs Sevilla.


Any team besides Bayern and Man city is okay by me.

I guessed so because most champions league draws from previous years have been very repetitive, so I'm still expecting Barcelona to meet Juventus. Liverpool and Sevilla also have history, so they might still meet again.
Abeg make the draw start sharply.

ollah2:



Aptly put. EV brought up a be-genius idea and it worked. This wouldn't work against a team like Man City but when you know your opposition and study how they play, it's great to device a plan to counter them in order to have an edge. This is what birthed ultra defensive tactics against possession obsessed teams

Yesssssss!!!! If we give Man City this type of opportunity, They would destroy us! Sane would eat Sergi Roberto for dinner, they would overload our flanks. So we have to at least win the midfield battle or be prepared to fight tooth and nail to chase after every ball like how we did against Bayern Munich in 2015.

Upnepaa:
I want a classico quter final please,i dont trust any biiiitch again to stop madrid.From bayern to mancity to juve i trust none, we should do the job ourselve ,they were fortunate not to have drawn us in their back to back UCL run for once probably we would have shared the trophies between us.

Seconded

I really want Madrid

This other clubs are Madrid bitches

tesppidd:
lol,

you're now beginning to sound like a neymar1095.

zig zag logic and argument!

you still cannot comprehend what am trying to tell you.

so in simple terms for you;

let's put aside all conditions, they are only excuses and that's the reason why you are wriggling and wriggling.

let's look at
1. champions league goals.
2. league goals.

champions league- messi 100 goals in 123 games, ronaldo 117 goals in 153 games.

domestic league- messi 373 goals in 409 games, ronaldo 390 goals in 508 games.

these are their domestic league and champions league numbers in their career.

do your math,

and then embarrass yourself some more by telling us ronaldo is the goal machine here!

i would surely continue with you later on, got some business to take care of.

FFuck Ronaldo at united was a winger, he was known for his pace,trickery and deadly freekicks not his goalscoring ability yes he scored 32goals in epl in a season but that was his only best season in terms of goals. My emphasis from the beginning has been that since Ronaldo came to Madrid his game has evolved to a deadly finisher and a goalscoring machine more than Messi from that period of time. If 439goals in 428appearance for Madrid doesn't prove that to you then lets stop wasting our time.

tesppidd:
another neymar1095esc logic!

Your Point's are Up and down. Since Ronaldo came to Madrid 439 goals 428 appearance
Messi 461 goals 463 appearance.
Who has a better goal to game ratio?

Melvyn11:

Your Point's are Up and down.
Since Ronaldo came to Madrid
439 goals 428 appearance

Messi
461 goals 463 appearance.

Who has a better goal to game ratio?

was ronaldo a tennis player before he came to Madrid?

tesppidd:
If we play the way we played chelsea,

Real or Bayern will knock us out,

I was amazed at how chelsea controlled long periods of the game and created a lot of goal scoring chances.


We can't win this tournament playing like that!

After going two goals up, we did it against madrid n juve now,, guy what are u saying sef, forgotten the first leg... That's what we call great game management, I know you wanted all out possession and domination so that we would beep caught in their counter attacks.. We would use d same style for those two, they won't know what would hit them

Melvyn11:

FFuck Ronaldo at united was a winger, he was known for his pace,trickery and deadly freekicks not his goalscoring ability yes he scored 32goals in epl in a season but that was his only best season in terms of goals. My emphasis from the beginning has been that since Ronaldo came to Madrid his game has evolved to a deadly finisher and a goalscoring machine more than Messi from that period of time. If 439goals in 428appearance for Madrid doesn't prove that to you then lets stop wasting our time.

Tapnaldo still bested at what he does best, give us their goal per game ratio dodoyo

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Yesssssss!!!! If we give Man City this type of opportunity, They would destroy us! Sane would eat Sergi Roberto for dinner, they would overload our flanks. So we have to at least win the midfield battle or be prepared to fight tooth and nail to chase after every ball like how we did against Bayern Munich in 2015.[/quote
Semedo, dembele n Alba would give them more headaches... Messi is our 12th,13th n 14th man... Have you forgotten
Mancity with that their leaky defense that also can't stand the press... Watch the cup game with Arsenal before aguero scored... City were all over the place

mcdreeezy:
I don't understand what some of you are saying here. That the way Chelsea had the ball for some periods of time in the match was concerning. Really? Iniesta and Busquets were taken off early in the game. And I thought we were supposed to expect that after the 1-1 draw at Stamford Bridge? For them to come out and take the game to us?


I also think this talk about the mistakes they made is exaggeration. Fine, they made mistakes. But those mistakes were as a result of pressure from our players. Messi stole the ball off Fab to assist Dembouz. Fab didn't mistakenly pass to Messi. RuffRuggedRaw said something on this thread during the match about how he likes this Valverde Barcelona. He said something about balance and I agree with him.


Chelsea had that little spell of possession because that was what we wanted. Simple.

We still had 56% of possession in a game they said Chelsea bossed... Some people are funny, without Iniesta n Busi... No be only boss, na danfo

homesteady:
I feel like our players didn't expect the onslaught from Chelsea, I was also surprised. I feel we'd be more prepared and composed if we were to meet a team like Bayern or Man City. This Chelsea tie was more like an eye opener.

BTW, we should expect the worst from today's draw.

Watch the clasico again, they expected it and contained them well, Chelsea had nothing to lose and had to react... It's just EV style, he knows how to manage different facets of the game.. I know you want gungo possession, that exposes us more

phaamsaam:

Tapnaldo still bested at what he does best, give us their goal per game ratio dodoyo

If my point was in lagos state your response is on the moon.

Melvyn11:

If my point was in lagos state your response is on the moon.

Lol give us their ratio now, why hiding... Coward

I don't know when this Melvyn11 will outgrow his ancestral stupidity.imagine saying ronaldo was a winger at Manchester united being the reason he couldn't have a better game to goal ratio than messi,trash!so you are trying to say messi had scored lots of goals for barca before ronaldo's transfer to madrid?messi played from the wing last season and won the European Golden boot,infact he won all of his golden boots after ronaldo came to madrid,so what's your point?i guess your mcm was playing as a defensive midfielder then?huh?salah is already on 24goals in the EPL now,is salah a çentre forward?.what's all these stats i'm even padding up self?tell me who moved your mcm away from the wing when he came to Madrid?mtcheww! Your mumu neva do!

phaamsaam:

Lol give us their ratio now, why hiding... Coward

any day he does this,the ancestral curse that made him immensely stupid will be lifted

mrcalcufast:
was ronaldo a tennis player before he came to Madrid?

If you cant follow the thread of a conversation,sit down somewhere and eat puff puff or something.