₦airaland Forum

Pavore9:
But Saudi is the heart beat of your religion,

False, the Quran and sunnah according to the understanding of the sahabah (first and best generation of Muslims) is the heartbeat of our religion.

Saudi leadership impose conservatism but go abroad and throw that in the wind.

They are humans too, we ask Allaah to rectify them and Grant them steadfastness

On a personal level I see nothing demeaning about shaking the hands of the opposite gender, it does not whittle down one's relationship with his or her Creator.

This is your opinion, you have right to it under the Nigerian constitution. But it is of no value or importance to us.

Thank you

BetaThings:
So let the pitying continue

I pity Nigerian Christians who know Christianity more than the people in the Western countries and are spending money to build churches in Europe and America

I pity Nigerian Christians who oppose homosexuality while churches in the Western countries are beginning to ordain homosexual priests


Now I have heard people accuse some people of being "slaves" to the North because they voted for Buhari
So it is not ok to be a "slave" to the North, but it is ok to be a "slave" to Saudi?

In Islam, place of birth is nothing; you only need to learn and practise. There are Nigerian scholars that will teach Saudi scholars/students
Afterall, a pastor is not necessarily the son of a pastor and his own son will not automatically inherit religious knowledge and piety

Believe me I don't understand what u r talking about here. Am not one of those who come here to fuel religious argument. Am very much @ peace with what I wrote. My dad practise Islam and my mum practise Christianity.And I choose to follow Christ. My father hasn't killed me till date . So my dear friend in my personal opinion my statement is irreversible . Foundation is everything.

gaskiyamagana:
Women are shaking hands with men or what? Give us another lieful comment.

Please where we're you schooled? I beg u know see foto 4 responses?

Bakrabas:
Islam is not like Christianity that rely on Isreal or Westerners or colonial masters for the next direction. For the fact that Saudi played a massive role in spreading Islam doesn't make them perfect.

I've seen an islamical debate where Nigerians won S. Arabians

That wasn't my point. Read between the lines.pls your foundation remains your strength.

DSDLIVEREPORT:
Believe me I don't understand what u r talking about here. Am not one of those who come here to fuel religious argument. Am very much @ peace with what I wrote. My dad practise Islam and my mum practise Christianity.And I choose to follow Christ. My father hasn't killed me till date . So my dear friend in my personal opinion my statement is irreversible . Foundation is everything.

I didn't choose to decide for Christians whether they should know Christianity more than Europeans. It is not in my place
But you say that you pity Nigerian Muslims who believe that they know Islam better than Saudis
1. Now do you think you should be choosing for them?
2. What am I saying is that one often comes across a statement like "the Muslims are slaves to the sultan or the North". Now anybody believing that a Muslim should not be a slave to another Muslim should not also recommend subservience to the Saudis
That is simple enough

As for your foundation, I have no problem with apart from the fact that you don't seem to understand at all
Muslims don't like to judge others - we just want to practise our religion without let.
Another point is that the Prophet of Allah (SAW) said that colour of skin does not matter, what matters is how much you fear Allah and keep your duty to Him
So why can a Nigerian not be more pious than a Saudi or even be more knowledgeable than a Saudi
So you can see that your opinion is wrong because you don't understand Islam

You said your dad has not killed you - very disappointing and shocking!
I should expect such from people who don't understand Islam at all. But your dad married a Christian, allowed you to learn about Christianity and you are joining in spreading such statements
Anyway what is the punishment for apostasy in Christianity?
And is it not Christians who claim not to judge. So what are they doing here?

nwabobo:
Isn't that why they are asking for Biafra?

No, that is not why
The reasons for Biafra as given by them are
- They are marginalised in terms of economic, social and political opportunities
- Others hate them
- They can do better under their own laws as they are being held down/back by others

They did not say other Christians are marginalising them
In reality territorial ambition is a key issue because Kanu said he was offered 5 states but he wanted more states - he included Benue on his list. I am not sure he asked Christians in Benue if they want to join though

Enemyofpeace:
haahahahahahahahhaha see sermon,e pained you so much that you took your time to make research on my religion.

Research your religion? I did not have to
I went to a public school and it was run like a Christian institution - Bible, songs of praise, Christmas Carol
I have always believed in fairness, that blatant disregard for the religion of others made me realise that only very selfish people can be Christians
That made up my mind for me

Enemyofpeace:
If you think I will waste my time to read all those craps you've got another think coming.

We have always known that Christianity thrives in the midst of ignorance
Your inability to refute my points is eloquent testimony to that
The religion is on shaky ground

Enemyofpeace:
Next modafoka pls

We can see the demonstration of what you are being taught in your churches

Enemyofpeace:
Fok off modafoka. Your religion is full if pretence, you pretend to be holy, whereas you're evil, you pretend to be the best, whereas you're the worst, you claimed to be religion of peace whereas you cause troubles wherever you live. That same man that refused to shake hands with the lady because of his satanic religion would go behind the scene to suck her pussy. Your religion is full of evils, you know it, the whole world knows it, even Mohammed(pistol be upon his head) knows it. Now get the the fok off my mention.

lol. ur way of addressing others speaks volumes of what u believe in.

nwabobo:
Yea, kindly donate a piece if land for the accommodation of Fulani herdsmen.

lol. they came into Niger state and they were given a taste of their own medicine.

northvietnam:
Just shift from here Now.. b4 i wooose u slap

lol. keypad macho.

ElCapone:
lol. they came into Niger state and they were given a taste of their own medicine.

Yer you accuse someone if not being accommodating. Isn't that hypocritical?

BetaThings:
No, that is not why
The reasons for Biafra as given by them are
- They are marginalised in terms of economic, social and political opportunities
- Others hate them
- They can do better under their own laws as they are being held down/back by others

They did not say other Christians are marginalising them
In reality territorial ambition is a key issue because Kanu said he was offered 5 states but he wanted more states - he included Benue on his list. I am not sure he asked Christians in Benue if they want to join though

How's the part in bold different from the subject matter or you just want to talk for talking sake?

nwabobo:
Yer you accuse someone if not being accommodating. Isn't that hypocritical?

mr man keep to the topic of discussion and dont digress. abi all northerners are now Fulani.

ElCapone:
mr man keep to the topic of discussion and dont digress. abi all northerners are now Fulani.

Refer to your original pist which I quoted.

nwabobo:
How's the part in bold different from the subject matter or you just want to talk for talking sake?

How is somebody not shaking hands with another person (the subject matter of this thread) holding a region back?
And if you are talking about secession, then I am unable to help if you cannot see that there can be a significant difference between marginalisation and being held back

nonut:
If it were Angela Merkel, the German chancellor, the idiot would have used two hands with a bow to accept it.

If you know, you know

BetaThings:
How is somebody not shaking hands with another person (the subject matter) holding a region back?

Go back to my original post which you quoted to see whether it has any correlation to what you say here.

ElCapone:
lol. keypad macho.

i just like ur composure..

BetaThings:
I didn't choose to decide for Christians whether they should know Christianity more than Europeans. It is not in my place
But you say that you pity Nigerian Muslims who believe that they know Islam better than Saudis
1. Now do you think you should be choosing for them?
2. What am I saying is that one often comes across a statement like "the Muslims are slaves to the sultan or the North". Now anybody believing that a Muslim should not be a slave to another Muslim should not also recommend subservience to the Saudis
That is simple enough

As for your foundation, I have no problem with apart from the fact that you don't seem to understand at all
Muslims don't like to judge others - we just want to practise our religion without let.
Another point is that the Prophet of Allah (SAW) said that colour of skin does not matter, what matters is how much you fear Allah and keep your duty to Him
So why can a Nigerian not be more pious than a Saudi or even be more knowledgeable than a Saudi
So you can see that your opinion is wrong because you don't understand Islam

You said your dad has not killed you - very disappointing and shocking!
I should expect such from people who don't understand Islam at all. But your dad married a Christian, allowed you to learn about Christianity and you are joining in spreading such statements
Anyway what is the punishment for apostasy in Christianity?
And is it not Christians who claim not to judge. So what are they doing here?

I really don't understand all wrote but one thing is clear I don't really I stay minutes with people like u before u scatter.my head and take my peace from me. The Islam my sibling practise is just enough to know . Thanks for your time

BetaThings:
I didn't choose to decide for Christians whether they should know Christianity more than Europeans. It is not in my place
But you say that you pity Nigerian Muslims who believe that they know Islam better than Saudis
1. Now do you think you should be choosing for them?
2. What am I saying is that one often comes across a statement like "the Muslims are slaves to the sultan or the North". Now anybody believing that a Muslim should not be a slave to another Muslim should not also recommend subservience to the Saudis
That is simple enough

As for your foundation, I have no problem with apart from the fact that you don't seem to understand at all
Muslims don't like to judge others - we just want to practise our religion without let.
Another point is that the Prophet of Allah (SAW) said that colour of skin does not matter, what matters is how much you fear Allah and keep your duty to Him
So why can a Nigerian not be more pious than a Saudi or even be more knowledgeable than a Saudi
So you can see that your opinion is wrong because you don't understand Islam

You said your dad has not killed you - very disappointing and shocking!
I should expect such from people who don't understand Islam at all. But your dad married a Christian, allowed you to learn about Christianity and you are joining in spreading such statements
Anyway what is the punishment for apostasy in Christianity?
And is it not Christians who claim not to judge. So what are they doing here?

I really don't understand all wrote but one thing is clear I don't really I would stay minutes with people like u before u scatter.my head and take my peace from me. The Islam my sibling practise is just enough to know . Thanks for your time

sweetgala:
Religious intolerance and a dismissive attitude is the height of illiteracy and ignorance.
You have displayed yours so eloquently.
A man has a right with no moral repercussions to observe the tenets of his religion if he so chooses.

It is obvious the picture is framed to discuss the subject in a negative manner; he has the right to refuse acknowledging an handshake and rather exchange pleasantries in another agreeable manner which is obviously done as to the body language of all captured in the picture.

One is not even sure he is the intended recipient of the handshake.

The mode of greeting is different in China if I the find myself in that nation or with people who represent that nation I'd make an effort to greet them in an culturally acceptable manner

all on one big IF

DSDLIVEREPORT:
I really don't understand all wrote but one thing is clear I don't really I would stay minutes with people like u before u scatter.my head and take my peace from me. The Islam my sibling practise is just enough to know . Thanks for your time

Perhaps you will understand this
A lover of peace allows others to practise their religion without let provided they don't interfere with his life
How does a Nigerian Muslim believing that he knows enough and can abide by the teachings of his religion than the Saudis affect you?

Has any Muslim criticised Christians for trying to surpass the West in religiousity?

nwabobo:
Go back to my original post which you quoted to see whether it has any correlation to what you say here.

Forget the sophistry
You claimed because a Muslim in the North will not shake hands with a woman that the South has nothing to do with the North
And I pointed out that even in the South, Christians still place tribe above religion - that is a fact

So relate that position to the original subject - there are Muslims in the South and North
And if you want to turn it to a Biafran issue, the Benue Christians appear not to to want to be Biafrans too
So the Biafran issue is not about the North or Islam but also about consultation of the intended citizens

BetaThings:
Forget the sophistry
You claimed because a Muslim in the North will not shake hands with a woman that the South has nothing to do with the North
And I pointed out that even in the South, Christians still place tribe above religion - that is a fact

So relate that position to the original subject - there are Muslims in the South and North
And if you want to turn it to a Biafran issue, the Benue Christians appear not to to want to be Biafrans too
So the Biafran issue is not about the North or Islam but also about consultation of the intended citizens

Is it that you can not read or you have a problem with comprehension? I never at anytime made reference to the young man not shaking the lady's hand please.

He has done the right thing a according to Islam so stop ranting those u that did not have any religion guidelines