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| Re: You Disobey Jesus Whenever You Say Someone Is Your Spiritual Father by cinoedhunter: 7:23pm On Mar 18, 2018 |
DaVinciii:Hahahaha |
| Re: You Disobey Jesus Whenever You Say Someone Is Your Spiritual Father by kingdvd(m): 8:15pm On Mar 18, 2018 |
[b]Well said, But our major problem is we do not know how to read the Bible and put it in the proper context for effective Christian life, that why all problems are around us (so called Christians) some even resort to die by fire, kill all witches, pray and die for all your enemies. i weep for our level of understanding of our Lord Jesus Christ. Christ said Moses told you an eye for an eye, but i say love your enemies! Matt 5v44. Jesus' instructions and moses' which one should a Believer hold supreme? if Moses instructions supercede Christ. then you are practising Judaism not Christianity. Now Jesus Told us call no man Father and someone is saying Elisha said this or that or Paul said this or that. the Question is: Jesus' instruction and Apostle Paul's comment, which is the most valid? Please Answer yourself. There is no debate here at all. if you want to call people spiritual father or my Father, my father. you can continue, but the truth will try you someday[/b] [b][/b] CharlieMaria: |
| Re: You Disobey Jesus Whenever You Say Someone Is Your Spiritual Father by unanonso(m): 1:35pm On Mar 19, 2018 |
PAGAN9JA:The condition of the world today is not God's fault. It is as a result of the wickedness of men. Remember that Jesus loves you. |
| Re: You Disobey Jesus Whenever You Say Someone Is Your Spiritual Father by PAGAN9JA(m): 3:17pm On Mar 19, 2018 |
unanonso:jesus is dead. |
| Re: You Disobey Jesus Whenever You Say Someone Is Your Spiritual Father by InansBobo(m): 8:00pm On Mar 19, 2018 |
PAGAN9JA:here's a proof Jesus is alive because only he can do this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjfAHGGzGcE |
| Re: You Disobey Jesus Whenever You Say Someone Is Your Spiritual Father by unanonso(m): 9:14am On Mar 20, 2018 |
PAGAN9JA:Matthew 26:32 But after I am risen again, I will go before you into Galilee. Matthew 28:6 He is not here: for he is risen, as he said. Come, see the place where the Lord lay. Matthew 28:7 And go quickly, and tell his disciples that he is risen from the dead; and, behold, he goeth before you into Galilee; there shall ye see him: lo, I have told you. |
| Re: You Disobey Jesus Whenever You Say Someone Is Your Spiritual Father by PAGAN9JA(m): 5:52pm On Mar 20, 2018 |
unanonso:dont quote me some bullshyts from some books. the bible is not a science textbook. its a fairytale book. I can also quote you some shyts like that. e.g Snow white had 7 dwarf friends [Snow white 7:34] |
| Re: You Disobey Jesus Whenever You Say Someone Is Your Spiritual Father by unanonso(m): 6:48pm On Mar 20, 2018 |
PAGAN9JA:2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: Jesus loves you still. |
| Re: You Disobey Jesus Whenever You Say Someone Is Your Spiritual Father by PAGAN9JA(m): 6:56pm On Mar 20, 2018 |
unanonso:nonsense. my God is in my family shrine. not in some dumb israeli book written by men. |
| Re: You Disobey Jesus Whenever You Say Someone Is Your Spiritual Father by unanonso(m): 7:05pm On Mar 20, 2018 |
PAGAN9JA:Isaiah 42:8 I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images. Isaiah 42:17 They shall be turned back, they shall be greatly ashamed, that trust in graven images, that say to the molten images, Ye are our gods. |
| Re: You Disobey Jesus Whenever You Say Someone Is Your Spiritual Father by PAGAN9JA(m): 7:19pm On Mar 20, 2018 |
unanonso:shut your mouth because of maniacs like you our country is in pieces. religitards. |
| Re: You Disobey Jesus Whenever You Say Someone Is Your Spiritual Father by unanonso(m): 7:35pm On Mar 20, 2018 |
PAGAN9JA:Matthew 11:28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. May the good Lord bless and keep you. Jesus loves you. |
| Re: You Disobey Jesus Whenever You Say Someone Is Your Spiritual Father by bloodofthelamb(m): 7:51pm On Mar 20, 2018 |
CharlieMaria:If the Church Jesus founded is The Catholic Church, then you can kindly show me where apostle Peter, Paul John and James prayed "hail mary" and also thought their followers to do so. Or you can kindly hold your peace and repent{ change your believe}. |
| Re: You Disobey Jesus Whenever You Say Someone Is Your Spiritual Father by CharlieMaria(m): 1:53pm On Mar 21, 2018 |
bloodofthelamb:Can you prove that the Hail Mary Prayer is wrong,? From the scriptures? |
| Re: You Disobey Jesus Whenever You Say Someone Is Your Spiritual Father by bloodofthelamb(m): 7:01pm On Mar 21, 2018 |
CharlieMaria:Is it not clear from the scriptures how the early pillars of the Church that Jesus founded with His blood prayed? Which one of them whispered Mary in their prayer and greetings? |
| Re: You Disobey Jesus Whenever You Say Someone Is Your Spiritual Father by CharlieMaria(m): 8:04pm On Mar 22, 2018 |
bloodofthelamb:James 15:14-16 clearly explained how they prayed, that they prayed for one another.....So since Mary is a member of the Church and the holiest member after Our Lord Jesus Christ, why can't she pray for me and her prayers avail much for me? |
| Re: You Disobey Jesus Whenever You Say Someone Is Your Spiritual Father by bloodofthelamb(m): 8:57pm On Mar 22, 2018 |
CharlieMaria:You are trying so hard to defend the indefensible. They prayed 'for' one another in the name of the LORD and not pray 'to' one another. Tell me is the Catholic faithful's praying "for" Mary or praying "to" Mary? |
| Re: You Disobey Jesus Whenever You Say Someone Is Your Spiritual Father by CharlieMaria(m): 9:17pm On Mar 22, 2018 |
bloodofthelamb:Can you explain what happened in Jeremiah 42:2-3, why did they pray to Jeremiah there? Study your scriptures well |
| Re: You Disobey Jesus Whenever You Say Someone Is Your Spiritual Father by bloodofthelamb(m): 10:47am On Mar 23, 2018 |
CharlieMaria:I have made the truth known to you... The truth shall be your judge. You can keep searching the scriptures to find something to justify your heresy and idolatry. |
| Re: You Disobey Jesus Whenever You Say Someone Is Your Spiritual Father by revontuli(f): 11:31pm On Mar 23, 2018 |
PAGAN9JA:Know what, the religious zealot parts of the US of A are also in pieces. There is a cult called the Christian Scientists, living in the stone age, they refuse all medical care and their region has 3rd world infant death rates. |
| Re: You Disobey Jesus Whenever You Say Someone Is Your Spiritual Father by CharlieMaria(m): 4:07am On Mar 24, 2018 |
bloodofthelamb:The guilty are afraid.....Perhaps you must have looked up Jer42:2-3 and found out that it condemns your claims and you now try to divert attention by name calling and unfounded lies.... Face the reality brother, self deception is the worst thing one can do to oneself..... Recap: Jer42:2-3 "And they said to Jeremiah, Let our supplications fall before there and pray thou for us, to the Lord Thy God, for all these remnants for we are left but a few of many as thy eyes do behold us.. " imagine what they prayed to or through Jeremiah... When I Say to Mary pray for me a sinner or pray for us sinners, I say something far less to her than what they told Jeremiah I this passage.... So what then is wrong praying through Mary, when people have done similar or more things to Jeremiah before? |
| Re: You Disobey Jesus Whenever You Say Someone Is Your Spiritual Father by bloodofthelamb(m): 7:26am On Mar 24, 2018 |
CharlieMaria:Then again I ask, which of the apostle of Jesus prayed through Mary or any other person aside the blessed Jesus the Son of God? A new way to God has been opened. |
| Re: You Disobey Jesus Whenever You Say Someone Is Your Spiritual Father by Stallion93(m): 7:59am On Mar 24, 2018 |
revontuli:The church of Scientology u mean? With Tom cruise and Jon Travolta as Prominent members. |
| Re: You Disobey Jesus Whenever You Say Someone Is Your Spiritual Father by Nobody: 1:36pm On Mar 24, 2018 |
AgamaHub:Charliemaria He did a nice work in his writeup. But what I want to offer is that Jesus was condemning religious titles among his disciples. That will create superiority, even class distinction among his disciples. They should know, that among the sheep no one is superior. all are equal - brothers. No one should be titled father, Rabbi, even that would condemn using the word pastor as a title. In that light, the op's advise is still in order. |
| Re: You Disobey Jesus Whenever You Say Someone Is Your Spiritual Father by Kobojunkie: 7:35pm On Mar 24, 2021 |
GoodBoi1:That is still wrong by the standard that is set for you by Jesus Christ. Matthew 23 vs 8-12And He has set no leaders, guides, advisers, mentors over you from among His followers Matthew 20 vs 24-28 (ESV) |
| Re: You Disobey Jesus Whenever You Say Someone Is Your Spiritual Father by Kobojunkie: 7:37pm On Mar 24, 2021 |
AgamaHub:I am afraid you guy you quoted got it wrong. Jesus Christ's teaching to the laymen of His time, that no special interpretation is necessary to understand the meaning of what He commands you Matthew 20 vs 24-28 (ESV) Matthew 23 vs 8-12 |
| Re: You Disobey Jesus Whenever You Say Someone Is Your Spiritual Father by Kobojunkie: 7:40pm On Mar 24, 2021 |
CharlieMaria:Jesus Christ warned against doctrines and traditions of men, which He declared were lies that instead heaped curses on those who perpetrated them and on those who ate them up. The teachings of Jesus Christ was taught to uneducated fisherman and poor folk in His time. The same teachings do not need any "special interpretation" to be understood who can read Matthew 20 vs 24-28 (ESV)Here the same Jesus Christ commands His followers against occupying positions of power or leadership over their fellow followers. This backs His teaching which is referenced by the OP which commands against calling any man father, as far as the Kingdom of God is concerned. ![]() Matthew 23 vs 8-12Jesus Christ Himself, through His own example, taught us that as far as His Kingdom is concerned, there is only one Father Matthew 12 vs 46-50 (ERV)Every other person is anything but ... |
| Re: You Disobey Jesus Whenever You Say Someone Is Your Spiritual Father by Kobojunkie: 7:47pm On Mar 24, 2021 |
0monnak0da:Jesus Christ is the Truth of God. Ofcourse He meant what He said. Matthew 12 vs 46-50 (ERV)Even He taught through His example in their Kingdom, there is only one Father.... and everyone else is not it. |
| Re: You Disobey Jesus Whenever You Say Someone Is Your Spiritual Father by Kobojunkie: 7:49pm On Mar 24, 2021 |
Acehart:As far as God and the Kingdom of God is concerned, there is only one Father and as Jesus Christ said, No man should be called "Father" where the Kingdom of God is concerned. That said, what Paul and John did were against what Jesus Christ commanded. ![]() |
| Re: You Disobey Jesus Whenever You Say Someone Is Your Spiritual Father by farem: 7:50pm On Mar 24, 2021 |
DaVinciii:You are operating from the spirit of bitterness, envy and frustration! If not you would have quoted the next verse. Matthew 23:9-10 (KJV) And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven. Neither be ye called masters (teachers) : for one is your Master even Christ. I ask you: do you address anyone as your teacher? Then you are also guilty! |
| Re: You Disobey Jesus Whenever You Say Someone Is Your Spiritual Father by Kobojunkie: 7:54pm On Mar 24, 2021 |
farem:Um... Matthew 23 vs 8-12... because according to Jesus Christ, You have only Father, and He is in Heaven. And as for Teacher, He alone is Teacher/Counselor /Guide /Helper /Comforter to all those who belong in His Kingdom. And the above commandments is conforms with God's declaration through Jeremiah as far as His New Covenant is concerned(see below) Jeremiah 31 vs 31-34 (ERV)God announced that in His New Covenant, He alone will teach His people of Himself. |
| Re: You Disobey Jesus Whenever You Say Someone Is Your Spiritual Father by Kobojunkie: 8:15pm On Mar 24, 2021 |
imstrong1:In the Kingdom of God, which you are called to be a part of when you become a believer in Jesus Christ, you are commanded against anyone who knows you as part of the Kingdom of God your Father or even your Teacher, because you have only one Father in Heaven and only one Teacher in the person of Jesus Christ. That is God's commandment to all those who claim to belong to His Kingdom of God. Disobedience is sin against God, against the commandments of Jesus Christ, the New Covenant. ![]() |
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