.we have heard from both the compliant and the defendant, what is remaining now is the truth.

Cromcruach91:


Grow up.

The girl could have only benefited from a cardiac transplant....

Which tells me that she had a serious cardiac issue , and as the report noted, she had been brought in in cardiogenic shock.

Once they are saying that you need a cardiac transplant...that means that you could die at any minute, any day, unless you get a transplant.

Yes, I know some doctors....but sometimes, some deaths are unavoidable.

When you re-fit your brain you can then see that this is nothing but a failed attempt at damage control.

We are not getting hoodwinked by some medical mumbojumbo being thrown to confuse the undiscerning...

I'm glad the hospital personnel replied.
Uch is not known for that,that's my hospital till date and that of my family,they might have their procedures but you will definitely be attended to especially in a case of emergency.
I can gladly refer anyone to Uch cause you would meet with medical professionals.


To the family and friends of the deceased, God will comfort you.
Rest in peace,sweet lady.

maestroferddi:
When you re-fit your brain you can then see that this is nothing but a failed attempt at damage control.

We are not getting hoodwinked by some medical mumbojumbo being thrown to confuse the undiscerning...

Besides, the conclusion that the patient would only benefit from CardiopulmonaryTransplant was also unknown to the writer and any attempt to cast aspersions on the excellent clinical practices at the University College Hospital, Ibadan by a relation who is not fully informed is rather unfortunate

Read that bit from the press release, and think again.

In the end, everyone gets to die.

Well, i did not read the complainant's msg (perhaps I'll read later), but UCH isn't what i think the complainant is picturing it to be... Imagine keeping a patient for 4yrs bfr deciding to transfer to a general hospital... Most of dese smaller hospitals would have done enough damage bfr transferring...

My dad was once treated at UCH.. So, believe me when i say i know what I'm saying.. The stress may be too much but it's always worth it if the patient gets dere in time

Famocious:
UNIVERSITY COLLEGE HOSPITAL, IBADAN

Our attention has been drawn to the trending https://www.nairaland.com/4406717/uch-ibadan-labelled-death-trap death of one of our patients, Oluwaseun Ezekiel Female, 24years who was referred to our Facility from a hospital in Ikorodu after being managed unsuccessfully for FOUR YEARS.

The writer of the trending story was unduly emotional, sensational, misinformed and misguided. He only tried to whip up sentiments.

The patient had been ill since 2014 with poor compliance to medications and presented with Cardiogenic shock without oxygen from the referral hospital.Resuscitation was commenced within five minutes of arrival without waiting for any payment as this is our routine practice.

Late Oluwaseun was given the best medical service that she required when she was brought in.We won't like to go into details of her condition when she was brought in because of the Doctor- Patient unwritten confidential relationship.
That a staff was eating so early into a new day had nothing to do with the service rendered to Seun because treatment already was ongoing before payment was made.

The emergency room doctors- Registrars, Senior Registrars and the TWO Consultants (including) a Senior Cardiologist who saw the patient were not known to the writer because be couldn't distinguished one from the other.

Besides, the conclusion that the patient would only benefit from CardiopulmonaryTransplant was also unknown to the writer and any attempt to cast aspersions on the excellent clinical practices at the University College Hospital, Ibadan by a relation who is not fully informed is rather unfortunate.

It would interest the Public to note that UCH has the best Cardiologist and Cath Lab in the country as at today.

Any wonder why Seun was referred to us for proper and excellentcare. It's so unfortunate that Seun passed on but it should be noted that her death has nothing to do with the excellent medical service given to her within the short spate of time she spent alive in our Hospital.
Thanks.

Signed:Management
UCH, IBADAN

UCH? Hmmm

I smell lies cos I am aware of the wrong attitude at the least that people in "high place" discharge their duties with.

So who do we believe? Oluwaseun's relative or the hospital management? The fellow that complained gave a very clear and detailed description of the events that took place before Oluwaseun's death and the hospital management put it off as mere sentiments. When will human lives matter in this country? This is sad.

Cromcruach91:


Besides, the conclusion that the patient would only benefit from CardiopulmonaryTransplant was also unknown to the writer and any attempt to cast aspersions on the excellent clinical practices at the University College Hospital, Ibadan by a relation who is not fully informed is rather unfortunate

Read that bit from the press release, and think again.

You have to wait till the writer being referred to gives his version of events...

Does it make sense to you that this writer could have gone out of his way to malign/impugn the hospital if they had not displayed complete nonchalance?

Are you not in this country to witness the way public officials behave? Most people reading this statement from the hospital will just be laughing...

People are yet to come to terms with the power/influence of the social media...They think they can continue with their egregious practices without getting called out...

Famocious:
UNIVERSITY COLLEGE HOSPITAL, IBADAN

Our attention has been drawn to the trending https://www.nairaland.com/4406717/uch-ibadan-labelled-death-trap death of one of our patients, Oluwaseun Ezekiel Female, 24years who was referred to our Facility from a hospital in Ikorodu after being managed unsuccessfully for FOUR YEARS.

The writer of the trending story was unduly emotional, sensational, misinformed and misguided. He only tried to whip up sentiments.

The patient had been ill since 2014 with poor compliance to medications and presented with Cardiogenic shock without oxygen from the referral hospital.Resuscitation was commenced within five minutes of arrival without waiting for any payment as this is our routine practice.

Late Oluwaseun was given the best medical service that she required when she was brought in.We won't like to go into details of her condition when she was brought in because of the Doctor- Patient unwritten confidential relationship.
That a staff was eating so early into a new day had nothing to do with the service rendered to Seun because treatment already was ongoing before payment was made.

The emergency room doctors- Registrars, Senior Registrars and the TWO Consultants (including) a Senior Cardiologist who saw the patient were not known to the writer because be couldn't distinguished one from the other.

Besides, the conclusion that the patient would only benefit from CardiopulmonaryTransplant was also unknown to the writer and any attempt to cast aspersions on the excellent clinical practices at the University College Hospital, Ibadan by a relation who is not fully informed is rather unfortunate.

It would interest the Public to note that UCH has the best Cardiologist and Cath Lab in the country as at today.

Any wonder why Seun was referred to us for proper and excellentcare. It's so unfortunate that Seun passed on but it should be noted that her death has nothing to do with the excellent medical service given to her within the short spate of time she spent alive in our Hospital.
Thanks.

Signed:Management
UCH, IBADAN

Famocious:
UNIVERSITY COLLEGE HOSPITAL, IBADAN

Our attention has been drawn to the trending https://www.nairaland.com/4406717/uch-ibadan-labelled-death-trap death of one of our patients, Oluwaseun Ezekiel Female, 24years who was referred to our Facility from a hospital in Ikorodu after being managed unsuccessfully for FOUR YEARS.

The writer of the trending story was unduly emotional, sensational, misinformed and misguided. He only tried to whip up sentiments.

The patient had been ill since 2014 with poor compliance to medications and presented with Cardiogenic shock without oxygen from the referral hospital.Resuscitation was commenced within five minutes of arrival without waiting for any payment as this is our routine practice.

Late Oluwaseun was given the best medical service that she required when she was brought in.We won't like to go into details of her condition when she was brought in because of the Doctor- Patient unwritten confidential relationship.
That a staff was eating so early into a new day had nothing to do with the service rendered to Seun because treatment already was ongoing before payment was made.

The emergency room doctors- Registrars, Senior Registrars and the TWO Consultants (including) a Senior Cardiologist who saw the patient were not known to the writer because be couldn't distinguished one from the other.

Besides, the conclusion that the patient would only benefit from CardiopulmonaryTransplant was also unknown to the writer and any attempt to cast aspersions on the excellent clinical practices at the University College Hospital, Ibadan by a relation who is not fully informed is rather unfortunate.

It would interest the Public to note that UCH has the best Cardiologist and Cath Lab in the country as at today.

Any wonder why Seun was referred to us for proper and excellentcare. It's so unfortunate that Seun passed on but it should be noted that her death has nothing to do with the excellent medical service given to her within the short spate of time she spent alive in our Hospital.
Thanks.

Signed:Management
UCH, IBADAN

ozodigboo:

what has the cashier got to do with the treatment of a patient ?
even if he didn't eat.....will he treat her ?

Cashier is probably the most important person in this.

Without receipt I’ve heard that care would not commence.

simonlee:
Nigerians are always quick to blame death of patients on hospital management which is very wrong. As a doctor, i know there are lapses in the medical sector and service delivery on our side. But trust me, no medical doctor or personnel will out of wickedness or negligence let someones's coffin rest on his/her conscience. Some cases get escalated and are beyond our control, but we will always do our best to save lives.
TeamMedics

Oga shift joor. Most of una people na murderers. My father died from avoidable complications and then negligence of doctors. After undergoing biopsy, some days will pass without a doctor showing up or showing very late at night. His condition deteriorated and an was placed on contaminated oxygen which further worsen his condition. The oxygen tank don't have gauge so it will just finish abruptly and we'll start running up and down looking for how to get oxygen or the electric one while the poor old man is gasping for air. This is just a low down of everything, it brings tears to my eyes when I remember what he went through at the torture chamber called Teaching Hospital. And to think he was not in the general Ward but the "VIP" and still get that kind of treatment, now imagine someone in general Ward.The lack of empathy on some nurses and doctors is just unfortunate really, if you don't have empathy you have no business in being in health sector. Another day after his death, I was watching on a health channel and the same scenario happened to a man and he was treated fine and well. So what is wrong with our own doctors in Nigerian hospitals?

Left to me, I'd sue the whole damn hospital if not for my over religious family that said it's God's will. I strongly disagree!

God knows best

maestroferddi:
You have to wait till the writer being referred to gives his version of events...

Does it make sense to you that this writer could have gone out of his way to malign/impugn the hospital if they had not displayed complete nonchalance?

Are you not in this country to witness the way public officials behave? Most people reading this statement from the hospital will just be laughing...

People are yet to come to terms with the power/influence of the social media...They think they can continue with their egregious practices without getting called out...

The writer has already given his version of events...and it was pasted on Nairaland....right here

While there is negligence in our hospitals...I used to work in a govt hospital , so I knows....sometimes, some of these patient's deaths are caused by patients not coming on time, or being mismanaged elsewhere.

A young friend of my mum's died due to a botched abortion done by a quack. She waited too long before going to the hospital, and even lied about the cause of her bleeding (her family members were around). It was only when a nurse chased the family members out and asked her again in private, that the girl even told the real cause....and work started, but it was too late.

Also, there was the publicised case of a woman who ended up in OAUTH, for a CS and ended up with kidney failure. She blamed the hospital for negligence. What was not said was that the woman had spent 4 days prior to going to the hospital in labour at a 'church' trying to deliver'like the Hebrew women'...and by the time she showed up at OAUTH...there was so much damage that it was just a salvage op, and she lost the baby. Yet...doctors were blamed.

I have seen a few patients with heart disease, most of them young, whose only hope was a cardiac transplant, including one young guy, who I will never forget, who I became friendly with, and who died in my presence, because we did not have the facility for heart transplant in this country.No...we do, but getting a donor heart is another long and pathetic process, even in developed countries.

So, you see why you have to stop thinking we are lying when we say that some cases died because nothing could be done, not because 'negligence'! Like this case.

simonlee:
Nigerians are always quick to blame death of patients on hospital management which is very wrong. As a doctor, i know there are lapses in the medical sector and service delivery on our side. But trust me, no medical doctor or personnel will out of wickedness or negligence let someones's coffin rest on his/her conscience. Some cases get escalated and are beyond our control, but we will always do our best to save lives.

TeamMedics

Chief, sometimes I try not to enlighten again because the prejudice is already there and unjustly being re enforced. Blaming doctors and other health workers whether rightly or wrongly has come to stay, unfortunately.

Mobsync:
"...with poor compliance to medications"



Standard practice dictates that in case of any incident leading to death, the affected staff(s) are supposed to go on paid/unpaid leave [depending o the circumstances] until investigations is concluded.

Just wanna answer the above-highlighted statement.
This statement is a complete lie. if all Staff in Accident emergency keeps going for leave anytime someone dies on their watch, I wonder who will remain on duty.
Even in the developed world, nobody goes on leave following a death on their watch. please don't confuse Police with Medical Practitioners.
Thank you.

Cromcruach91:


The writer has already given his version of events...and it was pasted on Nairaland....right here

While there is negligence in our hospitals...I used to work in a govt hospital , so I knows....sometimes, some of these patient's deaths are caused by patients not coming on time, or being mismanaged elsewhere.

A young friend of my mum's died due to a botched abortion done by a quack. She waited too long before going to the hospital, and even lied about the cause of her bleeding (her family members were around). It was only when a nurse chased the family members out and asked her again in private, that the girl even told the real cause....and work started, but it was too late.

Also, there was the publicised case of a woman who ended up in OAUTH, for a CS and ended up with kidney failure. She blamed the hospital for negligence. What was not said was that the woman had spent 4 days prior to going to the hospital in labour at a 'church' trying to deliver'like the Hebrew women'...and by the time she showed up at OAUTH...there was so much damage that it was just a salvage op, and she lost the baby. Yet...doctors were blamed.

I have seen a few patients with heart disease, most of them young, whose only hope was a cardiac transplant, including one young guy, who I will never forget, who I became friendly with, and who died in my presence, because we did not have the facility for heart transplant in this country.No...we do, but getting a donor heart is another long and pathetic process, even in developed countries.

So, you see why you have to stop thinking we are lying when we say that some cases died because nothing could be done, not because 'negligence'! Like this case.

My friend, we are all in this country.

Patient mortality will fall as high as 20% if health professionals/workers become alive to their responsibilities instead of the shoddiness you see all over the place.

Nobody is saying doctors should assume the place of God or be held culpable for patients' shortcomings/failings but you know as well as I do that most of our doctors here get away with misdeeds that could have serious repercussions in saner climes.

I did see the initial thread on the pathetic death of the young lady when it appeared here. I can put two and two together and deduce reasonably what happened.

This particular case trended on the social media but I want to tell you that worse cases are going on in our respective hospitals even as we type.

Nigeria is the way it is because people get away with their actions and inactions. We shall become a serious country when people get held accountable for their conduct.

Yet another bashing thread.

Una well done.

Exmay:


Just wanna answer the above-highlighted statement.
This statement is a complete lie. if all Staff in Accident emergency keeps going for leave anytime someone dies on their watch, I wonder who will remain on duty.
Even in the developed world, nobody goes on leave following a death on their watch. please don't confuse Police with Medical Practitioners.
Thank you.

The ignorant fellow you quoted is just one more ignorant Nigerian who feels compelled, for whatever reason, to make assertions for which he has very little relevant information.

Lots of them on this and other similar threads.

Exmay:


Just wanna answer the above-highlighted statement.
This statement is a complete lie. if all Staff in Accident emergency keeps going for leave anytime someone dies on their watch, I wonder who will remain on duty.
Even in the developed world, nobody goes on leave following a death on their watch. please don't confuse Police with Medical Practitioners.
Thank you.

It was a hurriedly concocted piece of senselessness.

I encourage people to educate themselves in every area of human endeavor so that people like these vainglorious elements calling themselves medical doctors will cease deceiving them.

That was how I went to a clinic the other day with a medical complaint only for the doctor to be prescribing sundry tests that had no bearing with my condition/complaint. All were in attempt to ratchet up the bill...

We need help here...

maestroferddi:
It was a hurriedly concocted piece of senselessness.

I encourage people to educate themselves in every area of human endeavor so that people like these vainglorious elements calling themselves medical doctors will cease deceiving them.

That was how I went to a clinic the other day with a medical complaint only for the doctor to be prescribing sundry tests that had no bearing with my condition/complaint. All were in attempt to ratchet up the bill...

We need help here...

You know for a fact that the requested investigations had no role whatsoever to play in your diagnosis, treatment or general outcome?

Good to know.

Cosplay:


You know for a fact that the requested investigations had no role whatsoever to play in your diagnosis, treatment or general outcome?

Good to know.

Nigerian doctors dont like informed patients at all...

liar.

simonlee:
Nigerians are always quick to blame death of patients on hospital management which is very wrong. As a doctor, i know there are lapses in the medical sector and service delivery on our side. But trust me, no medical doctor or personnel will out of wickedness or negligence let someones's coffin rest on his/her conscience. Some cases get escalated and are beyond our control, but we will always do our best to save lives.

TeamMedics

maestroferddi:
Nigerian doctors dont like informed patients at all...

Not a doctor Sir. Far from it.

I just intensely dislike mistruths and half truths and blatant misdirections and misrepresentations in life.

Assumptions will be the death of you.

You didn't answer the question though.


You know for a fact that the requested investigations had no role whatsoever to play in your diagnosis, treatment or general outcome?

I'm genuinely curious.

simonlee:
Nigerians are always quick to blame death of patients on hospital management which is very wrong. As a doctor, i know there are lapses in the medical sector and service delivery on our side. But trust me, no medical doctor or personnel will out of wickedness or negligence let someones's coffin rest on his/her conscience. Some cases get escalated and are beyond our control, but we will always do our best to save lives.

TeamMedics

Nigerian Doctors are something else. Their pomposity is too much, we will all die some day when its appointed time. Those who are healthy do not know what God has done for them and still is doing for them.

AK481:
bloody liars.

the govt needs to have a customer satisfactory feedback form after avery treatment,let the patient raye and appraise their treatment.if any staff apear more than 2 lows per month,he should be fired! ASAP .

and those with consecutive highs should be promoted.

rytly said bro

The notable and unfortunate thing about the hospital's rejoinder is the complete lack of empathy and the implied blame of the deceased. No condolences to the family of the deceased. From my own experience, most Nigerian medical personnel are heartless and a mirror of the Nigerian society.

Sadly due to ignorance and poverty in the land most of our people carry corpses to the hospital with the faith that doctors perform miracles. Ask an average Nigerian about annual medical checks and the response will amaze you especially when compared to their reactions to issues like this.

i have seen it myself. i dont need to be told that everything about U.C.H is dangerous. Run for you lives.