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Italy Pledges $1.8m To Help Save Lake Chad by Blue3k(op):
The Italian government has pledged $1.8 million towards the feasibility study of water transfer from the Congo River to the Lake Chad basin.

The Italian Ambassador to Nigeria, Mr Stefano Pontesilli, announced the pledge during the High-Level Session of Presidents of the Lake Chad Basin Commission (LCBC) meeting of member states in Abuja.

He said Italy was concerned about the humanitarian crisis due to the Lake Chad shrinkage, saying “there is the need for immediate attention’’.

Mr Pontesilli said the water transfer was an opportunity to restore Lake Chad's potential.

Diversion scheme

The envoy further said that Italy was ready to partner with the proposed “Transaqua Project” to see the success of the water transfer.

The Lake Chad replenishment project, codenamed Transaqua, is a proposed major water diversion scheme that would involve damming the Ubangi River at Palumbo in the Central African Republic

It also involves channelling of some of the water to Lake Chad through a navigable canal.


The Italian ambassador recalled that the feasibility study was awarded to a Canadian firm, CIMA International, which began work October 13, 2009, for 28 months.

He expressed the hope that the Ubangi-Lake Chad Inter-Basin Water Transfer project would be technically feasible and economically viable with the Trsnsaqua project.

Climate action

Earlier, some African leaders pledged to support all programmes and policies to solve the humanitarian needs of the Lake Chad area.

Gabonense President Ali Bongo said restoring the Lake Chad should be vigorously pursued for the betterment of the lives of those in the region.

He said the commitment was evident in the establishment of a monitoring system for water losses through the help of the Gabonese Space Agency.

President Bongo said his country had developed the adaptation to strengthen climate action to reduce the impact of climate change on the Lake basin region.

Mr Pontesilli commended the African Development Bank (AfDB) for financial support to the region.

Dr Muhammad Ibn-Chambers, who represented the UN Secretary-General, Mr Antonio Guiterres, noted that the environmental tragedy had led to violent extremism.


Mr Gutierres pledged the commitment of the UN to work with LCBC, Africa and international partners to change the Lake Chad region.

The conference was attended by presidents Muhammadu Buhari of Nigeria, Mahammadou Issoufu of Niger Republic, Idriss Debby of Chad, Faustin-Archange Touaderae of CAR and Ali Bongo of Gabon.

In 1992, a decision was taken to develop a master plan for the Lake Chad basin to include the establishment of an environmentally sound management of its resources.

The feasibility study for the water transfer from the Congo basin to the Lake Chad was the second priority project selected for implementation by the LCBC.
Source: http://www.africareview.com/news/Italy-to-help-save-Lake-Chad/979180-4324424-orpmvv/index.html

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Re: Italy Pledges $1.8m To Help Save Lake Chad by Blue3k(op):
Looks like Buhari efforts are paying off. Lol alot of nairalanders were mocking him for asking for donations even though this could potentially benefit Europe as well. This lake replenishment project if done would be biggest water diversion project ever if it happens. It would transfer 100 million cubic meters of water. The benefits are increased irrigation, stability, fishing, trade etc.

The only big issues are water management and it's feasibility. The project will be expensive in tens of billion on dollar cost. The solution I like for water management would be tradeable water market like Australia. Most of the water regulation currently are weak in Nigeria section of Lake Chad.
Re: Italy Pledges $1.8m To Help Save Lake Chad by Nobody: 5:40pm On Mar 23, 2018
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Re: Italy Pledges $1.8m To Help Save Lake Chad by Blue3k(op):
• Article about Transaqua

• The VP Speaking on the Lake Chad issue


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7VydgL1T68

• Videos about Transaqua


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JaY80Hjtto

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPb9rSLsjoI

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Re: Italy Pledges $1.8m To Help Save Lake Chad by Iceberg3: 7:50pm On Mar 23, 2018
Blue3k:
Looks like Buhari efforts are paying off. Lol alot of nairalanders were mocking him for asking for donations even though this could potentially benefit Europe as well. This lake replenishment project if done would be biggest water diversion project ever if it happens. It would transfer 100 million cubic meters of water. The benefits are increased irrigation, stability, fishing, trade etc.

The only big issues are water management and it's feasibility. The project will be expensive in tens of billion on dollar cost. The solution I like for water management would be tradeable water market like Australia. Most of the water regulation currently are weak in Nigeria section of Lake Chad.
Alumajiri grin.

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Re: Italy Pledges $1.8m To Help Save Lake Chad by Blue3k(op): 7:54pm On Mar 23, 2018
Iceberg3:
Alumajiri grin.

City beggarsgrin
Lol this genetic defect wants attention so bad. Oh well thanks for bumping thread. Feel free to comment more.
Re: Italy Pledges $1.8m To Help Save Lake Chad by Iceberg3: 7:58pm On Mar 23, 2018
Blue3k:
Lol this genetic defect wants attention so bad. Oh well thanks for bumping thread. Feel free to comment more.
Mental. grin
Re: Italy Pledges $1.8m To Help Save Lake Chad by Blue3k(op): 8:16pm On Mar 23, 2018
Anyway a navigable canal sounds cool. It would be cool especially if Nigeria decided to join free trade zone at some point.

MrHowto:
Nairaland Economics Blue 3,000
Thanks
Re: Italy Pledges $1.8m To Help Save Lake Chad by 0monnak0da: 8:32pm On Mar 23, 2018
Not a good idea because it takes away responsibility from the benefiiaries (Moral Hazard) to continue marrying 5 wives and having countless children without taking responsibility. If it wlll dry let it dry>

1.8 million USD is nothing it will need billions and no way is that money comming from Southern Nigeria. Let them embrace education or calll Allah to save them
Re: Italy Pledges $1.8m To Help Save Lake Chad by anibirelawal(m): 8:58pm On Mar 23, 2018
0monnak0da:
Not a good idea because it takes away responsibility from the benefiiaries (Moral Hazard) to continue marrying 5 wives and having countless children without taking responsibility. If it wlll dry let it dry>

1.8 million USD is nothing it will need billions and no way is that money comming from Southern Nigeria. Let them embrace education or calll Allah to save them
What are you saying??!
Re: Italy Pledges $1.8m To Help Save Lake Chad by Nobody: 10:48pm On Mar 23, 2018
0monnak0da:
Not a good idea because it takes away responsibility from the benefiiaries (Moral Hazard) to continue marrying 5 wives and having countless children without taking responsibility. If it wlll dry let it dry>

1.8 million USD is nothing it will need billions and no way is that money comming from Southern Nigeria. Let them embrace education or calll Allah to save them
I'm also thinking of where the FG will get the funds for the project.

What's the contribution of the north east to Nigeria
Re: Italy Pledges $1.8m To Help Save Lake Chad by Blue3k(op):
0monnak0da:
Not a good idea because it takes away responsibility from the benefiiaries (Moral Hazard) to continue marrying 5 wives and having countless children without taking responsibility. If it wlll dry let it dry>

1.8 million USD is nothing it will need billions and no way is that money comming from Southern Nigeria. Let them embrace education or calll Allah to save them
Your moral hazard argument stems from tragedy of commons which is solved by correcting incentive structure. The two big factors are climate change and water management as ministry of water resources states. Their propensity to procreate doesn't effect sun. The water management issue of government at state and federal not regulating water use like irrigation.

The 1.8 million is for the feasilibilty study. You're right n the billion of dollars needed. It would require lion share to come from Nigeria. The other countries in LCBC would have to contribute.
Re: Italy Pledges $1.8m To Help Save Lake Chad by 0monnak0da: 3:11pm On Mar 24, 2018
Blue3k:
Your moral hazard argument stems from tragedy if commons which is solved by correcting incentive structure. The two big factors are climate change and water management as ministry of water resources states. Their propensity to procreate doesn't effect sun. The water management issue of government at state and federal not regulating water use like irrigation.

The 1.8 million is for the feasilibilty study. You're right n the billion of dollars needed. It would require lion share to come from Nigeria. The other countries in LCBC would have to contribute.
The emboldened sentences are incomprehensible to me I am afraid. I am sure they make plenty of sense TO YOU.

People don't have to live everywhere on this planet. No one lives in Antarctica because of the climate. Very few people live in Siberia but those that do developed the resources to survive. Their responsibility.
History tells us that. If a people or specied not have the resources to survive they go extinct. Man as the "highest" animal on this planet has survived in different habitata always by resourcefulness not charity.

The problem with the excessve procreation is when they start starving to death we shall be inundated with images of their starving brats asking for handouts. All of this in the same region that kidnaps young girls for going to school.

If they are not left to nature they wll not curb their fecundity and they will take no responsibility for ensuring their survival.

Some peoples livein earthquake zones. They developed the resources to survive. Here we have a people with a deterinistic world view who believe anything does not happen unless Allah wills it.

It is a terrible idea. Let us not interfere with nature as an act of charity. If those who are most affected have the resources to do so fine.

Why did we not pay off Cameroon in the case of Bakassi? We abandoned the to theiir fate

what have we done about oil spillage in the Niger Delta
Re: Italy Pledges $1.8m To Help Save Lake Chad by Blue3k(op): 3:35pm On Mar 24, 2018
You don't understand defition of incentive structure? In this scenario it simply means they have to be more responsible for water use. This can be done with permits and price factor. Their behaviour isn't set in stone. How do you not understand fact that the Lake isn't drying directly because of increased water use. Plenty of places from Singapore to UAE experienced high population growth without water crisis. The easy answer is managing water better. People have already moved.

You think building the world's biggest water diversion project isn't resourceful. The LCBC already raised cash for study and have started in 2009 with CIMA. Their simply more work to do. Next human being transform environment that's why places that won't naturally support high population end up doing so later on.

Lol you act like Nigerians in lake chad are separate entity. Why do you expect them to solve issue on their own without federal assistance. Why don't you feel same way about bakassi they should have fought on their own. History shows if your weak you risk losing territory. That's a bad example since you know it was litigated in international court. Cameroon didn't want money they wanted the oil fields. The only option was war.

The oil spills are just as important budget cash for both. The point is this isn't an issue of nature. It's msinly economic. It's the same reason the Chinese are building South–North Water Transfer Project. It's not just the people in rural China doing it themselves.


0monnak0da:
The emboldened sentences are incomprehensible to me I am afraid. I am sure they make plenty of sense TO YOU.

People don't have to live everywhere on this planet. No one lives in Antarctica because of the climate. Very few people live in Siberia but those that do developed the resources to survive. Their responsibility.
History tells us that. If a people or specied not have the resources to survive they go extinct. Man as the "highest" animal on this planet has survived in different habitata always by resourcefulness not charity.

The problem with the excessve procreation is when they start starving to death we shall be inundated with images of their starving brats asking for handouts. All of this in the same region that kidnaps young girls for going to school.

If they are not left to nature they wll not curb their fecundity and they will take no responsibility for ensuring their survival.

Some peoples livein earthquake zones. They developed the resources to survive. Here we have a people with a deterinistic world view who believe anything does not happen unless Allah wills it.

It is a terrible idea. Let us not interfere with nature as an act of charity. If those who are most affected have the resources to do so fine.

Why did we not pay off Cameroon in the case of Bakassi? We abandoned the to theiir fate

what have we done about oil spillage in the Niger Delta
Re: Italy Pledges $1.8m To Help Save Lake Chad by 0monnak0da: 3:43pm On Mar 24, 2018
Blue3k:
You don't understand defition of incentive structure? In this scenario it simply means they have to be more responsible for water use. This can be done with permits and price factor. Their behaviour isn't set in stone. How do you not understand fact that the Lake isn't drying directly because of increased water use. Plenty of places from Singapore to UAE experienced high population growth without water crisis. The easy answer is managing water better. People have already moved.

You think building the world's biggest water diversion project isn't resourceful. The LCBC already raised cash for study and have started in 2009 with CIMA. Their simply more work to do. Next human being transform environment that's why places that won't naturally support high population end up doing so later on.

Lol you act like Nigerians in lake chad are separate entity. Why do you expect them to solve issue on their own without federal assistance. Why don't you feel same way about bakassi they should have fought on their own. History shows if your weak you risk losing territory. That's a bad example since you know it was litigated in international court. Cameroon didn't want money they wanted the oil fields. The only option was war.

The oil spills are just as important budget cash for both. The point is this isn't an issue of nature. It's msinly economic.
Who is solving the Niger Delta oiil spillage and flaring? The chronic environmental degradation? Where is the bilion dollar package and international conference to deal with that??


Ultimately in life ,people have to pay their way? If economic activity in the region cannot pay for it then the region is not viable.

I do not see Russia dropping nuclear bombs in Siberia to melt snow so people can live there.


Do you know that there has not always been a Sahara dessert. Over 30,000 pteroglyphs of river animals such as crocodiles have been found in the Sahara. Nature ran its course


Technologically it should be possible to build desalination plants and pump desalinated water from the ocean and rehydrate and reforest the whole place. The problem is COST. Who will pay for ithuh
Why stop with Lake Chad why not pump water and create rivers and more lakes across the Sahara? Money

That money has an opportunity cost

If Lake Chad is not viable let them move to Kano

Resourcefulness does not mean someone else paying your bills
Re: Italy Pledges $1.8m To Help Save Lake Chad by Blue3k(op): 4:02pm On Mar 24, 2018
The government of Nigeria doesn't need a conference to stop flaring and spills. The NASS can pass a law and police can enfore it.the enviromental degradation steps from regulation and pipeline bombing. The should be packages to clean up oil spills like in Ogoni. The reason for conference was because issues spans multiple countries borders. Any solution requires consensus from all parties involved.

If the Niger Delta can't solve oil spills with federal assistence it's not viable. I mean after all the money it gets why not. Translation or even most big projects are taken up by federal government like dams for a reason. I go back to China example of South–North Water Transfer Project. The region the water going to can't pay it in their dreams but that doesn't mean it's not viable.

Your Russia example is silly. I already answered who will pay for it question. It will probably lion share Nigeria and other members of LCBC. They are moving already to Kano and Lagos.

What do you think happens when over 100 million poor people become destitute by lake drying. The opportunity cost is a humanitarian disaster in waiting.

Is giving assistence bad it's temporary aid for specific purpose? The Italians are doing it for their own reason like keep African migrants out their nation. The transaqua idea also came out if Italy decades ago.

0monnak0da:
Who is solving the Niger Delta oil spillage and flaring? The chronic environmental degradation? Where is the bilion dollar package and international conference to deal with that??

Ultimately in life ,people have to pay their way? If economic activity in the region cannot pay for it then the region is not viable.

I do not see Russia dropping nuclear bombs in Siberia to melt snow so people can live there.

Do you know that there has not always been a Sahara dessert. Technologically it should be possible to build desalination plants and pump desalinated water from the ocean and rehydrate and reforest the whole place. The problem is COST. Who will pay for ithuh

If Lake Chad is not viable let them move to Kano

That money has an opportunity cost

Resourcefulness does not mean someone else paying your bills
Re: Italy Pledges $1.8m To Help Save Lake Chad by 0monnak0da: 4:05pm On Mar 24, 2018
Blue3k:
The government of Nigeria doesn't need a conference to stop flaring and spills. The NASS can pass a law and police can enfore it.the enviromental degradation steps from regulation and pipeline bombing. The should be packages to clean up oil spills like in Ogoni. The reason for conference was because issues spans multiple countries borders. Any solution requires consensus from all parties involved.

If the Niger Delta can't solve oil spills with federal assistence it's not viable. I mean after all the money it gets why not. Translation or even most big projects are taken up by federal government like dams for a reason. I go back to China example of South–North Water Transfer Project. The region the water going to can't pay it in their dreams but that doesn't mean it's not viable.

Your Russia example is silly. I already answered who will pay for it question. It will probably lion share Nigeria and other members of LCBC. Lastly they are moving already to Kano and Lagos
Nigeria does not have that kind of money that is the summarry of my position. We already owe so much. Even if we had such money there are more imprtant things to do with it. It is not going to happen
Re: Italy Pledges $1.8m To Help Save Lake Chad by Blue3k(op): 4:12pm On Mar 24, 2018
0monnak0da:
Nigeria does not have that kind of money that is the summarry of my position. We already owe so much. Even if we had such money there are more imprtant things to do with it. It is not going to happen
I think the money would be worth it. Nigeria and all the member countries can collectively raise it. The project won't be done overnight. Such project work in phases built canal slowly but surely. It could happen if the countries are serious.
Re: Italy Pledges $1.8m To Help Save Lake Chad by 0monnak0da: 4:17pm On Mar 24, 2018
Blue3k:
I think the money would be worth it. Nigeria and all the member countries can collectively raise it. The project won't be done overnight. Such project work in phases built canal slowly but surely. It could happen if the countries are serious.
Raise it from where exactly?

I can see you are a fantasist just like with the Cross River Budget you like to deal in make believe and fantasy.

A country that is struggling to pay salaries across several states,cannot build a second Niger bridge or complete Lagos Ibadan expressway will "raise money from where?By selling Buharis's cows?
Re: Italy Pledges $1.8m To Help Save Lake Chad by Blue3k(op): 4:28pm On Mar 24, 2018
Taxes and borrowing dude. Those are only two options. Nobody is serious about second Niger Bridge. You like repeating same questions over and over. I said Nigeria and rest of LCBC. The project don't in phases.

The cross river budget passed. You asked me where to find information. I told you them you asked me silli questions since you were forgot how Google worked. The budget they passed has its issues I posted topic about the lose accounting the did to get to their number.

I'm guess it's just your humor like the nuke Siberia comment. Pay off Cameroon for bakkasi. Regions that can't solve envirental issues should be abandoned...

0monnak0da:
Raise it from where exactly?

I can see you are a fantasist just like with the Cross River Budget you like to deal in ake believe and fantsy.

A country that is struggling to pay salaries across several states,cannot build a second Niger bridge or complete Lagos Ibadan expressway will "raise money from where?By selling Buharis's cows?
Re: Italy Pledges $1.8m To Help Save Lake Chad by ZombieTAMER: 4:29pm On Mar 24, 2018
I can see that Italians don't know what to do with their money
Re: Italy Pledges $1.8m To Help Save Lake Chad by 0monnak0da: 5:01pm On Mar 24, 2018
Blue3k:
Taxes and borrowing dude. Those are only two options. Nobody is serious about second Niger Bridge. You like repeating same questions over and over. I said Nigeria and rest of LCBC. The project don't in phases.

The cross river budget passed. You asked me where to find information. I told you them you asked me silli questions since you were forgot how Google worked. The budget they passed has its issues I posted topic about the lose accounting the did to get to their number.

I'm guess it's just your humor like the nuke Siberia comment. Pay off Cameroon for bakkasi. Regions that can't solve envirental issues should be abandoned...
Borrow from God? You think lenders are stupid?
Is there no limit to the amount of money in the world that can be borrowed?
Stop deceiving yourself . There is a limit to what you can borrow and tax
and the demands on the goverment far surpass that by far that is why Nigeria is considered a POOR country.

We have to make choices and this Lake Chad Fantasy is not going to happen just like your 1 trillion Cross River State budget of Kinetic Electroagnetization.

The only place it will happen is on the internet
Re: Italy Pledges $1.8m To Help Save Lake Chad by Blue3k(op): 5:10pm On Mar 24, 2018
Lol you said same thing about Akwa Ibom budget themlm dropped it. You ra t get tired then move on to next issue. The cross river one is possible but it would throw state into crazy debt. That's why they started doing funny accounting saying investment in projects counts as budget.

In the world their trillions of dollars available. The issue is mainly with can entity in question pay back. The answer determines if the get the money. The lake chad can happen if they're serious.

0monnak0da:
Borrow from God? You think lenders are stupid?
Is there no limit to the amount of money in the world that can be borrowed?
Stop deceiving yourself . There is a limit to what you can borrow and tax
and the demands on the goverment far surpass that by far that is why Nigeria is considered a POOR country.

We have to make choices and this Lake Chad Fantasy is not going to happen just like your 1 trillion Cross River State budget of Kinetic Electroagnetization.

The only place it will happen is on the internet
Re: Italy Pledges $1.8m To Help Save Lake Chad by 0monnak0da: 5:10pm On Mar 24, 2018
ZombieTAMER:
I can see that Italians don't know what to do with their money
For where? No be pledge? Na today? leave story . Come and confirm when you see the money
Re: Italy Pledges $1.8m To Help Save Lake Chad by 0monnak0da: 5:16pm On Mar 24, 2018
Blue3k:
Lol you said same thing about Akwa Ibom budget themlm dropped it. You ra t get tired then move on to next issue. The cross river one is possible but it would throw state into crazy debt. That's why they started doing funny accounting saying investment in projects counts as budget.

In the world their trillions of dollars available. The issue is mainly with can entity in question pay back. The answer determines if the get the money. The lake chad can happen if they're serious.
Akwa Ibom budget? Me when where?


Guy wake up stopthe lies and stop the fantasy.

The Cross River one WILL NOT HAPPEN. We both know this so again stop the delusion.

A state claims to have passed a budget ( which is a law) and no public copy is available/

You keep banging on about borrowing as if all that is needed is to express a desire to borrow and lenders will queue up at your door to buy application forms so they can lend you money

The Lake Chad thing will only happen if someone else pays for it not Nigeria so drop that fantasy. Won't happen
Re: Italy Pledges $1.8m To Help Save Lake Chad by Blue3k(op): 5:27pm On Mar 24, 2018
You're right on the Akwa Ibom thing my mistake. I remembered someone else. I told you the accounting crazy with cross river. It's possible but not likely. You say their no public budget released but you didn't visit state website or Google for it.

The lake chad can happen if they're serious. The monet can be raised by all the members. You already gave all the silly reason why not. The project can be built in phases. All the reason have been disputed hence why you keep running around talking about cross river. Again you sane guy that claimed budget was a secret because you didn't want to Google anything.

0monnak0da:
Akwa Ibom budget? Me when where?


Guy wake up stopthe lies and stop the fantasy.

The Cross River one WILL NOT HAPPEN. We both know this so again stop the delusion.

A state claims to have passed a budget ( which is a law) and no public copy is available/

You keep banging on about borrowing as if all that is needed is to express a desire to borrow and lenders will queue up at your door to buy application forms so they can lend you money


The Lake Chad thing will only happen if someone else pays for it not Nigeria so drop that fantasy. Won't happen
Re: Italy Pledges $1.8m To Help Save Lake Chad by 0monnak0da: 5:32pm On Mar 24, 2018
Blue3k:
You're right on the Akwa Ibom thing my mistake. I remembered someone else. I told you the accounting crazy with cross river. It's possible but not likely. You say their no public budget released but you didn't visit state website or Google for it.

The lake chad can happen if they're serious. The monet can be raised by all the members. You already gave all the silly reason why not. The project can be built in phases. All the reason have been disputed hence why you keep running around talking about cross river. Again you sane guy that claimed budget was a secret because you didn't want to Google anything.
How do you know what I did or did not do? It simply will not happen. I wonder if you work for the government.


With regard to Lake Chad It wil not happen because the political will cannot be mustered. There are more important priorities especially in the Niger Delta where the FG gets most of its money.

It is a ridiculous fantasy
Re: Italy Pledges $1.8m To Help Save Lake Chad by Blue3k(op): 5:39pm On Mar 24, 2018
Why would you ask me is it a secret after I told you to Google your question. That's why I assume you didn't. I don't work for cross river government.

I disagree about lake chad the will can be mustered. They've been working toward the goal for awhile. The next step is finishing the study. This project doesn't stop any other project in Niger delta so don't lose sleep over it.

0monnak0da:
How do you know what I did or did not do? It simply will not happen. I wonder if you work for the government.


With regard to Lake Chad It wil not happen because the political will cannot be mustered. There are more important priorities especially in the Niger Delta where the FG gets most of its money.

It is a ridiculous fantasy
Re: Italy Pledges $1.8m To Help Save Lake Chad by BabatCargo(m): 5:47pm On Mar 24, 2018
The river is fast depleting in the last couple of years.something needs to be done as soon as possible


Enjoy easter discount
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