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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rabcnesbit: 2:58pm On Mar 25, 2018
mufutau55:


Below is the guy who has been doing my windows for long time. He is located at around Abule-egba area (Lagos) but he works anywhere. I do not take a y responsibilities for his action, this is just a reccommendation, so proceed with your own due deligence. He is not a Nairalander.

Biodun - Abbey Aluminium Works at 08139201200
Both voice and Whatsapp. Tell him Alhaji sent you.

Hajji M.

Are you able to recommend a decent bricklayer (good standard of work at reasonable charges) that can work in Sango Ota sir?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 3:41pm On Mar 25, 2018
rabcnesbit:

Are you able to recommend a decent bricklayer (good standard of work at reasonable charges) that can work in Sango Ota sir?

Yes. The guys who have been working for me for almost 20 years. They are not Nairalanders but they have worked for many Nairalanders thru me. I am in Sango-Otta too.
I do not take any responsibility, just a recommendation, do your due deligence.

Please contact me privately for their contact info.

Hajji M.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by InvertedHammer: 4:03pm On Mar 25, 2018
TheMinimalist:
Examine your photo . Your workers have zero safety. No eye protection, no safety shoes ,no nasal protection despite all the dangerous concrete dust .

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I dare you to go to your site in Nigeria and enforce wearing of these safety/protection gears. The masons wouldn't mind if they are on daily pay. If it is by block count, they will complain that it slows their work.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by InvertedHammer: 4:16pm On Mar 25, 2018
AngelicBeing:
l agree with your position on High fences, I listened to Lagos state commissioner of police few weeks ago and he was of the opinion that high fences are not a deterrence to criminals, he advised for home owners to go for short fences where people can easily see through your home and that some criminals think twice before invading such homes because of fear of been seen by other neighbors who will quickly call the police or other landlords to wake-up, I posted it here few months ago, 3 of my neighbors who had gigantic fence and Iron gates where all robbed sad

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What kind of a slowpoke will jump a high wall to steal from people?
A bottle of acid to the wall and a little kick/tap will give an unfettered access to the compound. Hollow blocks make things a lot easier. I prefer guard dogs and motion detectors. These high fences keep away burglars and thieves but not the kind of criminals most Nigerians worry about.
I guess it gives people a false sense of security.
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Dremca(m): 4:21pm On Mar 25, 2018
InvertedHammer:


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What kind of a slowpoke will jump a high wall to steal from people?
A bottle of acid to the wall and a little kick/tap will give an unfettered access to the compound. Hollow blocks make things a lot easier. I prefer guard dogs and motion detectors. These high fences keep away burglars and thieves but not the kind of criminals most Nigerians worry about.
I guess it gives people a false sense of security.
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Motion detectors are preferable since it come with alarm system.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rabcnesbit: 5:11pm On Mar 25, 2018
mufutau55:


Yes. Below is the guys who have been working for me for almost 20 years. They are not Nairalanders but they have worked for many Nairalanders thru me. I am in Sango-Otta too.
I do not take any responsibility, just a recommendation, do your due deligence.

Mr. Kola Omidiji - Kamkol Constructions at 08184013057
Tell him Alhaji Mufutau sent you. Also on Whatsapp.

Hajji M.

Brilliant, thank you very much!
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 5:40pm On Mar 25, 2018
TheMinimalist:
Why do you have to build such high fences with barbed wire, no trees or grass, and now some are talking about electric fences .that sounds like hell if you have to go through such security measures just a for a simple middle class duplex . It's not like its a 30,000 sqft mega mansion.
Plus,Nigeria is a new market and there should be some architectural innovation,not the same old boring colonial methods.

I think the government should enact building codes with strict safety measures. High fences only encourages curiosity of the armed robbers. there would be less armed robbery if all homes have low fences and if people don't keep money at home . I read someone talking about unearthing a skeleton of a goat in a house and all of that voodoo stuff, man what a stone age mentality .

Nigeria is an enigma. People make a prison of family homes just for the fear of the unknown.

The prevalence of high fences is relatively new. It gained widespread popularity from the late 1980s more so after the introduction of SAP. The economy got worse and crime went up. With SAP, the economy was awashed with Naira, people near abandoned the banks and hoarded fiscal cash at home. The result is armed robbery at NIGHT in people's homes. To counter this, people started building high fences and prison walls.

Fast forward 30 years to today. The dynamics of the economy has changed. The ordinary man no longer hoard money at home with online and mobile banking, so NIGHT armed robberies at people's homes have fallen drastically and in some city neighborhood to zero.

With this scenario, high fence or prison wall is not a reaction to modern crime challenges but being stucked in the 80s. The nature of violent crime is changing; the early 2000 introduced kidnapping, now this is on the wane, we now have Fulani herdsmen and ritualist (human sacrifice). These are crimes high fences can't prevent as these crimes are perpetrated on the streets and highways of Nigeria away from family homes and at broad daylight. But see through fences and even low fences can retard these crimes. We witnessed how Evans the kidnapper used effectively high fencing to perpetrate his evil empire. Not suprisingly, Evans personal family home was a see through fence. Enough said.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 5:48pm On Mar 25, 2018
Let the record show that Evans family home has the silly electric wire fence too cheesy

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 6:30pm On Mar 25, 2018
rabcnesbit:

Brilliant, thank you very much!

I have never had any complaint about them (2 guys - partners).. and other NL people who have used them never had any negative feedback.

Hajji M.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by AngelicBeing: 6:30pm On Mar 25, 2018
InvertedHammer:


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What kind of a slowpoke will jump a high wall to steal from people?
A bottle of acid to the wall and a little kick/tap will give an unfettered access to the compound. Hollow blocks make things a lot easier. I prefer guard dogs and motion detectors. These high fences keep away burglars and thieves but not the kind of criminals most Nigerians worry about.
I guess it gives people a false sense of security.
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True that, my neighbor that was robbed has 2 giant shepherds, from the discussion l had with him during my visit to Nigeria, it seems he was robbed via information through people who were doing some renovation in his house, they provided all the info to the robbers that later came to rob him, that is the only clue he said that might have happened but he has changed his security now via his guard dogs that looks like monsters, once the dog is barking at night, I hear it from one of my properties that is 3mins walk away from his house

l think I am impressed with his dogs, anytime l finally decide to ever live permanently in Nigeria, l don't mind to have a minimum of 6 to 10 German Shepherd roaming where I sleep, let me see the criminal that will come into my premises grin
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by spyder880(m): 6:45pm On Mar 25, 2018
Once again, the stand alone tank stand and the roof cage mounted water tank base.

They both supply water stored from an overhead tank, aided by the force of gravity. They have some advantages and disadvantages.

The steel mounted tank stand takes some compound space, some people has this fear it will fall, its a little costlier.

The tank base built on top of the house mostly mounted on a decked portion of the roof is cheaper to build and does not consume compound space but can cause big problems for the health of the building if it ever leaks. Leaks can occur as water from broken joints, rain water falling into the decked tank base or even water overfill from pumps.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 8:03pm On Mar 25, 2018
spyder880:
Once again, the stand alone tank stand and the roof cage mounted water tank base.

They both supply water stored from an overhead tank, aided by the force of gravity. They have some advantages and disadvantages.

The steel mounted tank stand takes some compound space, some people has this fear it will fall, its a little costlier.

The tank base built on top of the house mostly mounted on a decked portion of the roof is cheaper to build and does not consume compound space but can cause big problems for the health of the building if it ever leaks. Leaks can occur as water from broken joints, rain water falling into the decked tank base or even water overfill from pumps.

You're missing a third option, Sir, especially for those of us that live closer to terra firma, on-demand pressure pump.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by InvertedHammer: 8:11pm On Mar 25, 2018
AngelicBeing:
True that, my neighbor that was robbed has 2 giant shepherds, from the discussion l had with him during my visit to Nigeria, it seems he was robbed via information through people who were doing some renovation in his house, they provided all the info to the robbers that later came to rob him, that is the only clue he said that might have happened but he has changed his security now via his guard dogs that looks like monsters, once the dog is barking at night, I hear it from one of my properties that is 3mins walk away from his house

l think I am impressed with his dogs, anytime l finally decide to ever live permanently in Nigeria, l don't mind to have a minimum of 6 to 10 German Shepherd roaming where I sleep, let me see the criminal that will come into my premises grin
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I drove around in an old 2003 Toyota with three wheelcovers missing last time I was in Nigeria. I never felt any more relaxed. My cousin ditched his LX570 and we drove around, went to sites and stopped at odd places without anyone raising eyebrows. It was a big eye-opener for both of us. In trying to secure, one may open himself to harm by drawing unnecessary attention.
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 8:22pm On Mar 25, 2018
InvertedHammer:

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I drove around in an old 2003 Toyota with three wheelcovers missing last time I was in Nigeria. I never felt any more relaxed. My cousin ditched his LX570 and we drove around, went to sites and stopped at odd places without anyone raising eyebrows. It was a big eye-opener for both of us. In trying to secure, one may open himself to harm by drawing unnecessary attention.
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I strategically purchased a Naija used 2002 4Runner, fit the purpose perfectly as intended. I also drive a Nissan Micra taxi which makes for interesting conversation at police checkpoints and driving past taxi parks (owo mi da crew) grin

PS: Cue the "just say that's all you can afford agbeboruns" grin
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by AngelicBeing: 8:32pm On Mar 25, 2018
InvertedHammer:

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I drove around in an old 2003 Toyota with three wheelcovers missing last time I was in Nigeria. I never felt any more relaxed. My cousin ditched his LX570 and we drove around, went to sites and stopped at odd places without anyone raising eyebrows. It was a big eye-opener for both of us. In trying to secure, one may open himself to harm by drawing unnecessary attention.
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True that, I also think it is better to go on a very low profile and if possible go unnoticed, the hunger in the land is partly responsible for the alarming crime rate, I also prefer driving old automobiles it definitely removes too much attention from you, although regardless of what we do, God Almighty is the ultimate securer of one's life cool

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Rubbiish(m): 8:36pm On Mar 25, 2018
spyder880:
Once again, the stand alone tank stand and the roof cage mounted water tank base.

They both supply water stored from an overhead tank, aided by the force of gravity. They have some advantages and disadvantages.

The steel mounted tank stand takes some compound space, some people has this fear it will fall, its a little costlier.

The tank base built on top of the house mostly mounted on a decked portion of the roof is cheaper to build and does not consume compound space but can cause big problems for the health of the building if it ever leaks. Leaks can occur as water from broken joints, rain water falling into the decked tank base or even water overfill from pumps.
Which is costlier & stronger between concrete stand alone tank stand & steel sir?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Rubbiish(m): 8:38pm On Mar 25, 2018
People wey get money full this thread oo... Them just dey disguise with old cars...

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by AngelicBeing: 8:40pm On Mar 25, 2018
Rubbiish:
People wey get money full this thread oo...
Them just dey disguise with old cars...
tongue

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Rubbiish(m): 8:41pm On Mar 25, 2018

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by adanny01(m): 8:50pm On Mar 25, 2018
earthrealm:


seems there is a misconception about these electric fences, their principle of operation is similar to a taser..ultra high voltage..but low current..miliamps, unless u r unconcious or wedged inbetween..or installed wrongly, its pretty hard for the domestic electric fence to kill a human.

as per switching it on and off, a simpleprogrammable timer socket/switch takes care of that, bought a timer socket for less than 5k naira in the uk..and it helps with turn on my sec light by 6.30pm and turn them off by 6.00am, same for the refrigrator for my folks in the villa

Thats what i think, electric fence wont kill anyone. Dangers of killing someone is a misconception.

Except for the fact that someone who is on top of the fence will definitely fall to the ground which may result to injury or in worst case fatal.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by juhlyouss(m): 9:01pm On Mar 25, 2018
how can I do c of o? anybody shd give me full detail thanks....
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 9:13pm On Mar 25, 2018
juhlyouss:
how can I do c of o? anybody shd give me full detail thanks....

I think it's state dependent, you might want to specify your location.

Good luck.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Dremca(m): 9:27pm On Mar 25, 2018
EgunMogaji:


I strategically purchased a Naija used 2002 4Runner, fit the purpose perfectly as intended. I also drive a Nissan Micra taxi which makes for interesting conversation at police checkpoints and driving past taxi parks (owo mi da crew) grin

PS: Cue the "just say that's all you can afford agbeboruns" grin
If possible, you can add 1998 mercedes
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Dremca(m): 9:29pm On Mar 25, 2018
AngelicBeing:
True that, my neighbor that was robbed has 2 giant shepherds, from the discussion l had with him during my visit to Nigeria, it seems he was robbed via information through people who were doing some renovation in his house, they provided all the info to the robbers that later came to rob him, that is the only clue he said that might have happened but he has changed his security now via his guard dogs that looks like monsters, once the dog is barking at night, I hear it from one of my properties that is 3mins walk away from his house

l think I am impressed with his dogs, anytime l finally decide to ever live permanently in Nigeria, l don't mind to have a minimum of 6 to 10 German Shepherd roaming where I sleep, let me see the criminal that will come into my premises grin
My chairman, is this not much. Why not easily hire soldiers.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 9:31pm On Mar 25, 2018
Dremca:
If possible, you can add 1998 mercedes

Unfortunately, that won't make it to my site.

Well, it maymake it but will leave parts behind grin
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by adanny01(m): 9:34pm On Mar 25, 2018
AngelicBeing:
True that, my neighbor that was robbed has 2 giant shepherds, from the discussion l had with him during my visit to Nigeria, it seems he was robbed via information through people who were doing some renovation in his house, they provided all the info to the robbers that later came to rob him, that is the only clue he said that might have happened but he has changed his security now via his guard dogs that looks like monsters, once the dog is barking at night, I hear it from one of my properties that is 3mins walk away from his house

l think I am impressed with his dogs, anytime l finally decide to ever live permanently in Nigeria, l don't mind to have a minimum of 6 to 10 German Shepherd roaming where I sleep, let me see the criminal that will come into my premises grin

Having guard dogs is a security option especially against bugglers and theives. However, well trained guard dogs are an expensive choice. Also, not everyone is an animal lover. My wife hates cats and dogs. She literally does not eat food nor drink water in a house that owns a cat.

My neighbor kept dogs for his business, we almost left the house before he ditched the dog business. I am also the kind who will properly wash hands because i played with dogs. I would not be comfortable with an animal living inside my own home unless even if it was properly trained.

These things are challenges some people like me face.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 9:35pm On Mar 25, 2018
Dremca:
My chairman, is this not much. Why not easily hire soldiers.

What I wonder is how people keep Dogs without a fence. You know since a fence is devils creation that only attracts "awon omo aiye".

Hopefully, they don't tie them down or worse cage them sha.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 9:48pm On Mar 25, 2018
EgunMogaji:


Unfortunately, that won't make it to my site.

Well, it maymake it but will leave parts behind grin
mercedess v booth boot grin grin

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by peterphd(m): 9:54pm On Mar 25, 2018
spyder880:
Once again, the stand alone tank stand and the roof cage mounted water tank base.

They both supply water stored from an overhead tank, aided by the force of gravity. They have some advantages and disadvantages.

The steel mounted tank stand takes some compound space, some people has this fear it will fall, its a little costlier.

The tank base built on top of the house mostly mounted on a decked portion of the roof is cheaper to build and does not consume compound space but can cause big problems for the health of the building if it ever leaks. Leaks can occur as water from broken joints, rain water falling into the decked tank base or even water overfill from pumps.


How much does it cost to do a steel tank stand of may e 6m? Thanks
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 10:01pm On Mar 25, 2018
InvertedHammer:

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I drove around in an old 2003 Toyota with three wheelcovers missing last time I was in Nigeria. I never felt any more relaxed. My cousin ditched his LX570 and we drove around, went to sites and stopped at odd places without anyone raising eyebrows. It was a big eye-opener for both of us. In trying to secure, one may open himself to harm by drawing unnecessary attention.
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Staying safe in Nigeria is understanding the nature of crime in Nigeria and juxtaposing this with the causal components of one's life chances.

Modern day violent crime in Nigeria comprise kidnapping, cult/gang bank armed robbery, Fulani herdsmen and ritualist. As you can see, high fences is a wrong solution to these crimes.

If you look at the nature of the crimes again, apart from Fulani herdsmen, all the other crimes are intelligence driven based on insider information. This is where one's lifestyle comes in. The biggest breach of personal information and lifestyle is allowing TOTAL strangers into personal space and family homes as gatemen, house help, drivers etc. This is where the diaspora and middle class home base are most vulnerable. It's good advice not to show off or draw attention to one's self. So even if you built the highest fence there is and employ a Niger republic gateman you think is an hausa man, you are open to being done for kidnapping. Same with driving about in flashy cars especially the diaspora. Same with building high fences, you draw attention to yourself. Low profile is bliss.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by earthrealm(m): 10:30pm On Mar 25, 2018
EgunMogaji:


I strategically purchased a Naija used 2002 4Runner, fit the purpose perfectly as intended. I also drive a Nissan Micra taxi which makes for interesting conversation at police checkpoints and driving past taxi parks (owo mi da crew) grin

PS: Cue the "just say that's all you can afford agbeboruns" grin
cc invertedhammer.

lol its all about perspective, the 2002 4runner you consider old, and not flashy...to some criminal a sign that this man has money!/old chief, sa,e goes for the 03 corolla,

if u really wanna go low profile car wise, 1980 peugeot 504 or 1974 vw beetle or 1980 mercedes flat booth, shud be your cars of chice. since you need an suv cos of the terrain...that makes it pretty hard, ..in naija, once you hv an suv,, u r automatically considered a wealthy man, it cud be a 1990 pathfinder..the boys dont care!

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