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Re: Using Casket For Burial In Islam by Nobody: 7:48pm On Mar 30, 2018

It wasn't posted in the Muslim section that's why. Go to the Muslim section and comment on any thread cheesy

Ladyjumong:
Wow, something is different. Seun finally remove the oath

Re: Using Casket For Burial In Islam by Empiree: 11:48pm On Mar 30, 2018

Asquare84:
Yesterday I read in social median about 11 soldiers killed in Benin gwari in Kaduna state and where buried.

On closer look at the name of the soldier I discovered they are mostly Muslims and about to be buried in a casket

That prompted my thought that other Muslim are buried with only with cloth why is it that our army personnel that died in active service are buried in casket and other Muslim are hurried in white cloth.

In need explanation cos I'm just curious to know

It is not haram (forbidden) to bury a muslim in a coffin or casket. It is simply not a muslim tradition. It is considered waste of money. Imagine whopping amount of money spent on Chinua Achebe's burial (if that was true). Whats the point of that?. Not only him but many people buried like that.

From islamic view, there might be instances where caskets or coffins are used due to condition of the burial ground. But there is no islamic text that explicitly goes against it. It is only considered makruh(dislike). Muslims only believe in simplicity of burial which i think you should agree with. Islam frowns at extravagance. From this we deduced simple burial. What's the point of spending millions of naira just to give the land its meat?. I am sure Jesus christ(as) maintained simple lifestyle. But today christians, the so called christlike do the opposite.

Re: Using Casket For Burial In Islam by agabusta: 5:59am On Mar 31, 2018

Preator:
Praise be to Allaah.

There is no dispute among the scholars that it is makrooh to bury the deceased in a coffin if there is no need for that.

Ibn Qudaamah said:
It is not recommended to bury the deceased in a coffin, because there is no report that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) or his companions did that, and it also involves imitating the people of this world.

It is makrooh to bury the deceased in a coffin according to scholarly consensus, because it is bid’ah (an innovation), unless the ground is wet or soft, in which case it is not makrooh because that serves a purpose.

The deceased’s instructions should not be carried out except in this case. Similarly if the deceased has been burned by fire and cannot be carried except in a coffin.

And Allaah knows best.

https://islamqa.info/en/34511

As per the bold parts above, Why are you now using phones, CCTV, computers, flying planes, etc.

Is that not imitating people of the world? Is there evidence that the Prophet and his companions used same?

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Re: Using Casket For Burial In Islam by agabusta: 6:11am On Mar 31, 2018

SouthEastFacts:
Oga travel and you will learn. Over 90% of Northern Christians answer Arabic names.

Late last year, our Organisation was commissioned to run an election related survey in Katsina and to our shock 40% of the populations are Christians. We were supposed to spend only 21 days but we ended up spending 3 months. We changed every parameters, pulled up the worst case scenarios, narrowed the sample sizes, broaden the sizes and our hit consistently returned between 35-40 percents. We spent over additional 2 months to verify this.

So if Katsina a core sharia state has Christians as large as this what will you say about Kaduna.

What am I trying to say, those Soldiers might be Christians.

Finally, the best chances of defeating Buhari is to tactfully pull both tribal and religious cards. Shia muslims are on standby to deliver about 3 million votes against him but SW moslems are on lock down for him.

NE is a swing region. Kano and Kaduna will shock BMCs and PDP will pull atleast 25% from NW.

Christian Yorubas are undecided and are likely to vote for PDP if they field Yoruba Christians. A SE VP will not appeal to them, but the North is indifferent in who becomes VP.

SW VP will cost PDP their strongest ally SE and their bulk breaking votes in SW, NW and "consolidation votes" from the other regions.

A female VP will not sell.

We left Lagos 2 weeks ago and our next stop will be NC, then FCT.

Continue deceiving yourself. Buhari has die hard fans among both Christians and Muslims.

Yorubas are not that religiously inclined in political consideration.

Re: Using Casket For Burial In Islam by Empiree: 6:16am On Mar 31, 2018

agabusta:
As per the bold parts above, Why are you now using phones, CCTV, computers, flying planes, etc.

Is that not imitating people of the world? Is there evidence that the Prophet and his companions used same?

the best argument against the use of coffin or casket is that it is a waste of money or resources. That the prophet did not use it is not tangible evidence in my opinion. Again, it is not ideal for muslims to use casket. It is not Muslim tradition. It is a waste of money and resources. This is the position of Sheikh Adam Abdullah Al-ilory(ra).

Besides, what's the purpose of casket?. To prevent maggots?. That's nonesense

Re: Using Casket For Burial In Islam by agabusta: 6:26am On Mar 31, 2018

Empiree:
the best argument against the use of coffin or casket is that it is a waste of money or resources. That the prophet did not use it is not tangible evidence in my opinion. Again, it is not ideal for muslims to use casket. It is not Muslim tradition. It is a waste of money and resources. This is the position of Sheikh Adam Abdullah Al-ilory(ra).

Besides, what's the purpose of casket?. To prevent maggots?. That's nonesense

This seems more reasonable

Re: Using Casket For Burial In Islam by SouthEastFacts: 7:28am On Mar 31, 2018

agabusta:
Continue deceiving yourself. Buhari has die hard fans among both Christians and Muslims.

Yorubas are not that religiously inclined in political consideration.

I am not here to exchange words with you. I said 35-40% of Katsina population are Christians. Did I mention their political inclination? NO.

Keep deceiving yourself. The strongest base of Buhari is Yoruba moslems. They are solidly on lock down for Buhari. It is their Christians that don't care about religion during voting.

Re: Using Casket For Burial In Islam by agabusta: 7:45am On Mar 31, 2018

SouthEastFacts:
I am not here to exchange words with you. I said 35-40% of Katsina population are Christians. Did I mention their political inclination? NO.

Keep deceiving yourself. The strongest base of Buhari is Yoruba moslems. They are solidly on lock down for Buhari. It is their Christians that don't care about religion during voting.

Did I say anything about Katsina state? The parts I referenced were made bold for you to relate with.

We have consistently told you people to drop this foolery of Xtian/Muslim yorubas but you want to keep wallowing in ignorance. No wahala.

Re: Using Casket For Burial In Islam by Raintaker(m): 7:50am On Mar 31, 2018

agabusta:
Did I say anything about Katsina state? The parts I referenced were made bold for you to relate with.

We have consistently told you people to drop this foolery of Xtian/Muslim yorubas but you want to keep wallowing in ignorance. No wahala.

I don't even understand the Yoruba xtains/Yoruba Muslims I see on nairaland these days.
There is nothing like that, they are trying to create a caste/division system which never existed.
Only God knows what kind of spirit these people possess.

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Re: Using Casket For Burial In Islam by agabusta: 8:04am On Mar 31, 2018

Raintaker:
I don't even understand the Yoruba xtains/Yoruba Muslims I see on nairaland these days.
There is nothing like that, they are trying to create a caste/division system which never existed.
Only God knows what kind of spirit these people possess.

I just tire for them. And these same set of people are always all out to call other people Bigots.

Whereas, theirs is legendary from time immemorial.

Bunch of hypocrites.

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Re: Using Casket For Burial In Islam by Ladyjumong(f): 9:55am On Mar 31, 2018

DonPiiko:
It wasn't posted in the Muslim section that's why. Go to the Muslim section and comment on any thread

i pass

i dont want any lailai laha on my profile cheesy

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Re: Using Casket For Burial In Islam by Preator: 7:45pm On Mar 31, 2018

Empiree:
the best argument against the use of coffin or casket is that it is a waste of money or resources. That the prophet did not use it is not tangible evidence in my opinion. Again, it is not ideal for muslims to use casket. It is not Muslim tradition. It is a waste of money and resources. This is the position of Sheikh Adam Abdullah Al-ilory(ra).

Besides, what's the purpose of casket?. To prevent maggots?. That's nonesense

Alhamdulilah brother.
I refer to your comment "that the Prophet(SWT) did not use casket is not tangible evidence..." Please note that whatever the Prophet says or does is one of the highest source of evidence in Islam. It is referred to as the sunnah. Caskets were used by non-Muslims in the days of the Prophet (SWT) yet he did not use it in the burial of the esteemed followers nor did the sahabahs use it in burying the Prophet(SWT). Please note that other credible source of evidence in Islam apart from the sunnah is the Glorious Quran and the sayings and deeds of the Sahabahs(may Allah be pleased with them)

Re: Using Casket For Burial In Islam by SouthEastFacts: 8:53pm On Mar 31, 2018

agabusta:
Did I say anything about Katsina state? The parts I referenced were made bold for you to relate with.

We have consistently told you people to drop this foolery of Xtian/Muslim yorubas but you want to keep wallowing in ignorance. No wahala.

Re: Using Casket For Burial In Islam by SouthEastFacts: 8:55pm On Mar 31, 2018

agabusta:
Did I say anything about Katsina state? The parts I referenced were made bold for you to relate with.

We have consistently told you people to drop this foolery of Xtian/Muslim yorubas but you want to keep wallowing in ignorance. No wahala.

Kee yourself. You can't deny the obvious. Yoruba moslems are more loyal to the caliphate than to Ife and they are inherently wicked. I am talking from experience. Their Christians are good and friendly.

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