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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by horsepower101: 2:21pm On Mar 31, 2018

Develpeast:
I have taken my time off nairaland to have a proper look at things from all perspective, I find out that we have been deceiving ourselves seriously. The number of dependents in the east are fast rising and many of the graduates are looking for places to run to. My nephew called and asked if he could come stay with me and hustle. I thought to myself that these people in the east have been made to feel that they need to come to the north or west before they can make any head way in life. The perception that the present government is not trying to tackle because this thing has festered for 48 years.

No one is talking and everyone seems to enjoy the loud silence because they are faced with harsh realities. With the increase in emigration of the resourceful and smart minds out of the east, we will be having the same mediocre government currently ruling us now in the east.

The east is shrinking economically but no one is saying anything about this, it is until we build idp camp in the east before most of you will realise that we are facing big problems.

Point to me the part of the country that is doing better in terms of job availability, employment, economy.

To my recent memory, people all over this country are suffering and can't even get 3 meals a day. I never felt that way about the east.

I am not saying that people are not struggling in the east but it's far much worse in other places. So please let's not exaggerate the current situation. No need for self pity. We have already overcome far much worse situations in Nigeria.

And if people have to go to find better opportunities else where, so be it as long as they invest back home.

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by realhumanity: 2:23pm On Mar 31, 2018

horsepower101:

Do you know how many jobs just building 1 house provides?

There is investment inflows into the east unless you think local investors don't matter.

Our attitude towards attracting big FDI is really appalling. Most of our governors only attract foreigners who wants to collect contract from them. The other day, Ikpeazu scammed us that honda company or is it hyundai are planning to build oil refinery in the state but he hasnt said or done anything about it. Many more occasions where we need to leverage on the advantages our region has over other regions, we tend to sleep while the west and the north snap everything from us.

Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by ChimaAdeoye: 2:25pm On Mar 31, 2018

spyder880:
I just saw the type of road being constructed by Dave Umahi in Ebonyi state, concrete road to be topped with asphalt. Is this not what our governors should be doing here too. Ugwuanyi should please explore this alternative to the current roads being built in Enugu state.
This road is at Okposi junctio, Ebonyi state.

Concrete roads helped America develop very high quality highway systems that didn't require any maintenance for decades and remained smooth like the first day they were built. They started building concrete roads in 1800s and have never stopped. Those raods are still in very good condition today.

If the Ebonyi had promoted efforts to resuscitate NigerCem Nkalagu, it would have been use our resources to develop the state.Ebonyi already has the finest quarries that will supply the stones for these projects. But importing cement from outside of Ebonyi to do concrete roads without backward integration into your economy may not be very wise. You are just enriching those who want to impoverish you further. Although concrete roads are the way to getting our roads in good condition for extended periods of time. Especially in a country with poor maintenance culture like Nigeria.

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by HEYWAYA: 2:26pm On Mar 31, 2018

spyder880:

Onitsha is seriously growing. I feel a strong sense of pride whenever I am in Onitsha, I am also helping to add to the skyline, I am building this new one for a client in Onitsha.

There is nothing to be proud of in a hideous wasteland ruled by unbrushed backstreet ruffians and plagued by the most hazardous of crimes and contagions.
Onitsha is dead, and there is no other saving it than totally destroying it.

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by Develpeast: 2:28pm On Mar 31, 2018

Onitsha generally has this harsh outlook. The look that shows it doesn't care about beauty or order. People build very beautiful edifices there but aesthetics is been dampened by brash outlook.

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by horsepower101: 2:30pm On Mar 31, 2018

realhumanity:

Our attitude towards attracting big FDI is really appalling. Most of our governors only attract foreigners who wants to collect contract from them. The other day, Ikpeazu scammed us that honda company or is it hyundai are planning to build oil refinery in the state but he hasnt said or done anything about it. Many more occasions where we need to leverage on the advantages our region has over other regions, we tend to sleep while the west and the north snap everything from us.

Personally I will always prefer local investors over foreign ones because local investors tend to be more loyal with their investments.

But no foreigner will feel comfortable to invest where the locals are not willing to invest their money.

Please research this and you will realize that it was investments from Hong Kong and Taiwan in china that gave America and Europeans the confidence to start investing in mainland china. They saw the returns.

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by InvertedHammer: 2:32pm On Mar 31, 2018

discusant:

Because of polutical differences with then Imo state governor Udenwa, Senator Arthur Nzeribe killed the agitation for a merited sixth state in the Southeast. Njaba/Orlu state was about to be created when Arthur Nzeribe said it must be Orashi/Oguta state, instead of Njaba/Orlu.

Once the division from the same constituency in Imo state emerged, Nsukka people started to insist for Adada/Nsukka as the sixth state.
But it's on record that after Ebonyi was carved out as fifth SE state from Enugu and Abia states, the sixth SE state must be carved out from Anambra and Imo state's.

Arthur Nzeribe did his worst.

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You are giving too much power to Nzeribe. Nzeribe was only a tool. The same way he did a yeoman's job in the June 12 saga. He danced to the tune of his master(s)...a mere messenger. Someone was the shotcaller.
The people agitating for states were seeking the attention and approval of one man. The buck stops at his table. He could have created the state by fiat if he'd so chosen.
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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by horsepower101: 2:38pm On Mar 31, 2018

realhumanity:

Our attitude towards attracting big FDI is really appalling. Most of our governors only attract foreigners who wants to collect contract from them. The other day, Ikpeazu scammed us that honda company or is it hyundai are planning to build oil refinery in the state but he hasnt said or done anything about it. Many more occasions where we need to leverage on the advantages our region has over other regions, we tend to sleep while the west and the north snap everything from us.

The second part of my response is that the west and the north have a political advantage that will not matter once oil money runs out. For now it's a do or die politics for them and they will do anything to keep us marginalized. Let them continue to snap up whatever they can but at the end of the day, the average Igboman will still be better economically and financially than the average westerner or northerner and that to me is what matters the most.

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by ChimaAdeoye: 2:38pm On Mar 31, 2018

spyder880:

Onitsha is seriously growing. I feel a strong sense of pride whenever I am in Onitsha, I am also helping to add to the skyline, I am building this new one for a client in Onitsha.

Spyder, Biko we go talk soon.

I want to add my own to the skyline and you will be the contractor grin

By the way, i used to dislike these types of buildings until i visited Jerusalem and decided to also visit family in Beirut with my friend on that visit. If you visit Beirut, you will see how Onitsha could transform to the best city if they seriously thought about making water available in these buildings and using renewable electricity such as solar panels and inverters to augument electricity from the grid. Mind you, almost every flat in Beirut where i visited had air-conditioning unit for their flat!

Now i am a full supporter of the 4-5 storey buildings because it is the ONLY way to help people have decent apartments in a land scarce city. We just have to work on how to keep the streets paved and cultivate a culture of sinking boreholes for every house or atleast one borehole serving the houses on every street to guarantee constant water supply to residents. Spyder, that is why i love you hanging the 500 gallons tank ontop of that building. We just have to figure a way to make homes have running water and electricity independent of government input in Nigeria.

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by Chri08102702694: 2:39pm On Mar 31, 2018

HEYWAYA:

There is nothing to be proud of in a hideous wasteland ruled by unbrushed backstreet ruffians and plagued by the most hazardous of crimes and contagions.
Enugu is dead, and there is no other saving it than totally destroying it.

Paul Ogenyi I totally agree with you on this, Enugu is a dead town ruled by dirty useless uneducated animals and infested with the worst crimes and also infested with human wastes just as we saw recently all over Ogbete market and enugu metropolis. There is no other way to save the deplorable and waste land called Enugu than totally deploying caterpillars to demolish the entire filthy town to the ground.

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by horsepower101: 2:41pm On Mar 31, 2018

ChimaAdeoye:

Spyder, Biko we go talk soon.

I want to add my own to the skyline and you will be the contractor

By the way, i used to dislike these types of buildings until i visited Jerusalem and decided to also visit family in Beirut with my friend on that visit. If you visit Beirut, you will see how Onitsha could transform to the best city if they seriously thought about making water available in these buildings and using renewable electricity such as solar panels and inverters to augument electricity from the grid.

Now i am a full supporter of the 4-5 storey buildings because it is the ONLY way to help people have decent apartments in a land scarce city. We just have to work on how to keep the streets paved and cultivate a culture of sinking boreholes for every house or atleast one borehole for every street to guarantee constant water supply to residents.

Me too. I used to hate them too. But now I am beginning to appreciate them more and more. Just good mordern paved roads around them will make a big difference.

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by Chri08102702694: 2:45pm On Mar 31, 2018

Enugu generally has a brash dirty ugly outlook. I was in Enugu recently and I was ashamed of all the hype you guys heap here daily. Dirty roads filled with sand and dirty houses. It clearly shows that Enugu does not care about order, aesthetics etc. Enugu state government should do better than playing to the gallery all the time. You judged the great city of Onitsha with just one picture Spyder posted from Obosi but you forgot that there are worse places in Enugu main town. Meanwhile below is still Onitsha. Onitsha is the best planned city in the East. You can take it to HSBC.

Develpeast:
Onitsha generally has this harsh outlook. The look that shows it doesn't care about beauty or order. People build very beautiful edifices there but aesthetics is been dampened by brash outlook.

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by ChimaAdeoye: 2:46pm On Mar 31, 2018

horsepower101:

Me too. I used to hate them too. But now I am beginning to appreciate them more and more. Just good mordern paved roads around them will make a big difference.

Exactly!
Beirut looked exactly like Awada layout with good paved roads on every street with running water and electricity not an issue. I suddenly realized that it wouldn't take much to transform Nigeria to a liveable space for everyone to be decently accommodated in those 4-5 storey buildings.

We just have to get serious with getting street paved and cleared of trash, water supplied for residents on the building and working on renewable electricity sources.

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by discusant: 3:06pm On Mar 31, 2018

jamjo:

As an Igbo person and from Imo, my view on agitation for a state for Southeast, the five states are too small for another state to be created from it. We have the opportunity to expand our territory if we as Southeasters will see the vision and the advantages in supporting the creation of Anioma State in Delta state to complement the Southeast as the sixth State that will be good for us. We need room to spread and we also need the population, the Southeast is fast running out of agricultural lands and that is a big problem.

Polutical underepresentation of the Igbo at the federal level is main reason more states are needed in the SE. To be pronounced president, a presidential candidate must win 25% of votes in 36 states.
19 of the states and Abuja were ultimately proliferated by Abacha and IBB in one northern region, thus that makes northern presidential candidate capable of winning any presidential election, unless northern leaders did not say the president must come from the north.

Revenue allocation is second reason. SE has lost close to 300 billion Naira federal allocations due to absence of merited sixth state.

I am not going to be surprised that you may come from Owerri zone of Imo state.

But tell Owerri man that five states in the SE ARE TOO MANY, that Imo state and others shall fuse to former East Central State with Enugu as capital.

The Owerri man shall immediately retort "olom," - a big no.

But Owerri man is ready to make the SE continue to lose the two advantages of representation and revenue allocation, as Owerri wants to retain the oil producing areas in Orlu zone for development of state capital, Owerri.

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by discusant: 3:18pm On Mar 31, 2018

horsepower101:

Anioma state should be our no 1 priority when it comes to state creation. No more further didvision of the south east.

Anioma is in the SS. Anioma people shall not agree to be dragged into the SE region. Wake up. Some of you are like: we don't want the extra federal allocations that shall come to the SE if a sixth state is created in the SE;

some of you who don't want state created in the SE do not like to be appropriately represented in Nigeria's political process. Self-centered interest, not love for progress of Igbo is behind your stance. Many of you come from state capital, therefore deplore any further state creation. Awful.

Tufiakwa, the low level of intellect which some educated Igbos exhibit is alarming. Even the Almajiris are more brilliant than some Igbo PhD holders when matters of Nigeria's political structure and process are the discourse.

Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by Chri08102702694: 3:30pm On Mar 31, 2018

You can't believe this but this is NSUKKA urban center where Heywaya(Paul Ogenyi) hails from. Are these people still in the 21st century? Maybe Igbos should copy this model. Tell me why this town should not be demolished to the ground? Useless people.

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by Anambra1stSon(m): 3:32pm On Mar 31, 2018

Develpeast:
[s]I have taken my time off nairaland to have a proper look at things from all perspective, I find out that we have been deceiving ourselves seriously. The number of dependents in the east are fast rising and many of the graduates are looking for places to run to. My nephew called and asked if he could come stay with me and hustle. I thought to myself that these people in the east have been made to feel that they need to come to the north or west before they can make any head way in life. The perception that the present government is not trying to tackle because this thing has festered for 48 years.

No one is talking and everyone seems to enjoy the loud silence because they are faced with harsh realities. With the increase in emigration of the resourceful and smart minds out of the east, we will be having the same mediocre government currently ruling us now in the east.[/s]

[s]The east is shrinking economically but no one is saying anything about this, it is until we build idp camp in the east before most of you will realise that we are facing big problems.[/s]

I guess is your village shrinking not southeast economy, go to west and north to see poverty walking all over the streets, beggers lettered every where, I guess you are not from east.

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by slimthugchimee2(m): 3:33pm On Mar 31, 2018

Chri08102702694:

Paul Ogenyi I totally agree with you on this, Enugu is a dead town ruled by dirty useless uneducated animals and infested with the worst crimes and also infested with human wastes just as we saw recently all over Ogbete market and enugu metropolis. There is no other way to save the deplorable and waste land called Enugu than totally deploying caterpillars to demolish the entire filthy town to the ground.

This bafoon showing ogbete 5yrs ago....for your information, ogbete market road has been expanded and repaired, keep deceiving yourself grin

Until Ogun can half of the development Enugu has gone, keep shut and get the F out

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by Chri08102702694: 3:41pm On Mar 31, 2018

Who is this castrated i.diot. Do you want me to flood here with recent human wastes all over Ogbete and enugu metropolis? Bunch of animals

slimthugchimee2:

This bafoon showing ogbete 5yrs ago....for your information, ogbete market road has been expanded and repaired, keep deceiving yourself Until Ogun can half of the development Enugu has gone, keep shut and get the F out

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by slimthugchimee2(m): 3:48pm On Mar 31, 2018

Chri08102702694:
Who is this castrated i.diot. Do you want me to flood here with recent human wastes all over Ogbete and enugu metropolis? Bunch of animals

I will not exchange insults with you..........but unless you can show me recent picture of that same ogbete with filth like that of ibadan, then you are just a frustrated dunce

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by slimthugchimee2(m): 3:52pm On Mar 31, 2018

Chri08102702694:
Enugu generally has a brash dirty ugly outlook. I was in Enugu recently and I was ashamed of all the hype you guys heap here daily. Dirty roads filled with sand and dirty houses. It clearly shows that Enugu does not care about order, aesthetics etc. Enugu state government should do better than playing to the gallery all the time. You judged the great city of Onitsha with just one picture Spyder posted from Obosi but you forgot that there are worse places in Enugu main town. Meanwhile below is still Onitsha. Onitsha is the best planned city in the East. You can take it to HSBC.

Enugu gives abuja a run of his money when it comes to aesthetics

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by signz: 3:54pm On Mar 31, 2018

spyder880:
I just saw the type of road being constructed by Dave Umahi in Ebonyi state, concrete road to be topped with asphalt. Is this not what our governors should be doing here too. Ugwuanyi should please explore this alternative to the current roads being built in Enugu state.
This road is at Okposi junctio, Ebonyi state.

This is exactly the type of road Dangote constructing in Apapa Lagos.

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by asha80(m): 3:59pm On Mar 31, 2018

spyder880:
I just saw the type of road being constructed by Dave Umahi in Ebonyi state, concrete road to be topped with asphalt. Is this not what our governors should be doing here too. Ugwuanyi should please explore this alternative to the current roads being built in Enugu state.
This road is at Okposi junctio, Ebonyi state.

are the contractors still on this road?there are few roads that are been done this way in aba

Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by ChimaAdeoye: 3:59pm On Mar 31, 2018

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I guess is your village shrinking not southeast economy, go to west and north to see poverty walking all over the streets, beggers lettered every where, I guess you are not from east.

You busted his deceit trying to use a fake moniker. That boy isn't Igbo. Probably Deomello aka arabisiola or ariesbull.
It kills them that the people they wasted all this energy plotting to kill and impoverish are not doing badly.
Just ignore those bitter souls. They have been looking to incite e-war between Anambra and Enugu or Ebonyi in this thread.
I am happy we have wiser people here nowadays to just ignore them as they respond to themselves until they get tired.

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by Chri08102702694: 4:00pm On Mar 31, 2018

Below is the present condition of Enugu town. Start living in-the-NOW. Enugu should be demolished to the ground. Except you are talking of Nassarawa but never Abuja.
You better start facing reality

slimthugchimee2:
Enugu gives abuja a run of his money when it comes to aesthetics

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by TheKingdom: 4:02pm On Mar 31, 2018

That pix of Nssuka nawah

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by slimthugchimee2(m): 4:06pm On Mar 31, 2018

Chri08102702694:
Below is the present condition of Enugu town. Start living in-the-NOW. Enugu should be demolished to the ground. Except you are talking of Nassarawa but never Abuja.
You better start facing reality

this guy can't just stop lying to himself, keep showing me picture of ogbete 5yrs ago
.....just stop being desperate, Enugu is not at your level instead use those machinaries to repair your damaged waste region

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by Chri08102702694: 4:08pm On Mar 31, 2018

Lol..see this one too. Is it a lie too? Watch and see how backward your overhyped enugu is. Fools

slimthugchimee2:
this guy can't just stop lying to himself, keep showing me picture of ogbete 5yrs ago and nnamdi azikiwe road as of 2007 and below.....just stop being desperate, Enugu is not at your level instead use those machinaries to repair your damaged waste region

https://www.facebook.com/naijcombreakingnews/videos/509066756130294/

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by ChimaAdeoye: 4:09pm On Mar 31, 2018

horsepower101:

Innoson should start building these and marketing it to state governments and private estate management.
Every problem presents money making opportunities

GBAM!

I hope one SE state can place orders for this types of vehicle with INNOSON.

The state governments have to think about keep the roads clean by buying at least 4 of these types of vehicles for every city. Everyday, you send off the environmental team to go sweep some major roads and plant flowers and trees. If they did it for one year, the whole city will look beautiful and clean. Some SE states have NEVER swept the streets from 1800!

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by InyinyaAgbaOku(m): 4:10pm On Mar 31, 2018

discusant:

Anioma is in the SS. Anioma people shall not agree to be dragged into the SE region. Wake up. Some of you are like: we don't want the extra federal allocations that shall come to the SE if a sixth state is created in the SE;

some of you who don't want state created in the SE do not like to be appropriately represented in Nigeria's political process. Self-centered interest, not love for progress of Igbo is behind your stance. Many of you come from state capital, therefore deplore any further state creation. Awful.

Tufiakwa, the low level of intellect which some educated Igbos exhibit is alarming. Even the Almajiris are more brilliant than some Igbo PhD holders when matters of Nigeria's political structure and process are the discourse.

I don't get this Anioma craze. It can exist in the South South, it doesn't stop it from bring Igbo if they want.
Plus such agitations should come from them first. Don't want anybody calling me a land grabber

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by slimthugchimee2(m): 4:15pm On Mar 31, 2018

ChimaAdeoye:

GBAM!

I hope one SE state can place orders for this types of vehicle with INNOSON.

The state governments have to think about keep the roads clean by buying at least 4 of these types of vehicles for every city. Everyday, you send off the environmental team to go sweep some major roads and plant flowers and trees. If they did it for one year, the whole city will look beautiful and clean. Some SE states have NEVER swept the streets from 1800!

enugu sometime in 2012 2013 had this sweepers, chime bought them, I don't know what later happened to them shaaa...before as early as 5 to 6am I would see one sweeping that oguo road

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by Cooly100: 4:16pm On Mar 31, 2018

Chri08102702694:
Lol..see this one too. Is it a lie too? Watch and see how backward your overhyped enugu is. Fools

Mister, you are truly a spoilt brat throwing things out of shopping trolley because you are denied a candy...This is thread is not in competititon with any other state. I don't see any reason for you polluting this thread with your drivel. I someone has annoyed with..all you need do is to caution him and move on. I tell you he will apologies. You need maturity to be able to do that, if you are truly Igbo.

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