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CuteMadridista:
That doesn't explain why only 2% believe in Jesus though

dionysus7:
i honestly thought you wanted to give logical reasons...yet another disappointment.

you guys are not even trying again, you're just shoving your beliefs in our faces, and when your opinions are scrutinized, you start shouting atheists

darkchild64:
Let me ask you a simple question,if an Israeli man appeared today and started performing scientifally proven miracles,and doing other supernatural stuff,this guy claims that he is the younger brother of Jesus and that Yahweh has now changed the rules that you would need to believe in him(let's say his name is Ben-Yedder) you would have to pray through his name to assess Yahweh and you need not follow the New Testament laws again,he creates new laws,giving that some people are starting to believe him

Butterflyleo:
Your problem is a mental one. You are stuck on a God and a Jesus you claim is fictional yet cannot disassociate from them .

You have an attachment disorder.

zombieHUNTER:
Jesus is Lord He has Risen

CC Imhotep evablizin firefire ajepako homeboiy lzaa. ngokafor et all
Happy Easter guys
Madridguy yarimo usba manirik quotasystem

MaziOmenuko:
This is plain trash! The Jews has maintained their religion for thousands of years despite the adulterated version spreading everywhere. They have not compromised their stand on the Greek version of Judaism called Christianity. And they have not remained secluded nor stagnant. In fact, they have waxed stronger and all Christians strive to come to their country for religious tourism thereby enriching them.

If anything, the Jews have held on to their original religion despite the fake version flying around. They have maintained a montheist stance and their core beliefs that their God did not father any son and also know the origin of trinity to be pagen worship.

zlantanfan:
Did you see me wasting my time on him.

The man is finished, they are either Islamist s in disguise ( which nairaland restricts access to their topics) or plain dumb atheists

CuteMadridista:
How can a Nigerian believe the son of a Jewish carpenter killed in a small Israeli village aeons ago was dying for their sins when the Jews themselves don't believe that crhap?

there are even far more Muslims in Israel than there are Christians and that is saying a lot

Religion in Israel (2014)
Judaism (75%)
Islam (17.5%)
other/unknown (4%)
Christianity (2.0%)
Druzism (1.5%)

these guys who's ancestors lived during Jesus time and interacted with him didn't believe he was dying for them but a Nigerian read a book and quickly concluded the Jews are wrong. A slavery endorsing book handed to them by their pink skinned slavemasters

its like saying you know Buhari more than those that are interacting with him because you read punch newspapers

Nigerians need to get sense ASAP

wamiikechukwu:
I find it funny that even in the land where Jesus was claimed to be from, do not believe in him.

But in some parts of the world "specially the the place where nothing ever works (Africa)" , believe in him as if they have seen him before.

How i wish i was born 5000 years ago i would have created my own religion i would have named it "xyz"

darkchild64:
Let me ask you a simple question,if an Israeli man appeared today and started performing scientifally proven miracles,and doing other supernatural stuff,this guy claims that he is the younger brother of Jesus and that Yahweh has now changed the rules that you would need to believe in him(let's say his name is Ben-Yedder) you would have to pray through his name to assess Yahweh and you need not follow the New Testament laws again,he creates new laws,giving that some people are starting to believe him

WOULD YOU BELIEVE ?

divicoded:
I have fixed it for you

darkchild64:
Let me ask you a simple question,if an Israeli man appeared today and started performing scientifally proven miracles,and doing other supernatural stuff,this guy claims that he is the younger brother of Jesus and that Yahweh has now changed the rules that you would need to believe in him(let's say his name is Ben-Yedder) you would have to pray through his name to assess Yahweh and you need not follow the New Testament laws again,he creates new laws,giving that some people are starting to believe him

WOULD YOU BELIEVE ?

CuteMadridista:
I don't believe in Arab god either

fabre4:
Oga it is a take it or leave it offer if you are not interested take a walk. But we know the truth and will continue to flaunt it.

Butterflyleo:
The deluded guy is an atheist. He says Jesus never existed and God does not exist but just cannot stop talking about those he claims do not exist. He is indeed finished but does not know it yet.

Butterflyleo:
It explains why 2% still believe. A prophet is never honoured in his own land.

Jesus went against their known Judaic ways so why then would they not reject him?

They expected the messiah to come as a warrior in vengeance but not as a peace maker and a lamb of sacrifice.

Their blind selfish desires made them reject him .

zombieHUNTER:
Jesus is Lord He has Risen

CC Imhotep evablizin firefire ajepako homeboiy lzaa. ngokafor et all
Happy Easter guys
Madridguy yarimo usba manirik quotasystem

helpee:
By your logic, why is prophet muhammed honoured in saudi? Infact, they are almost 100percent muslim. I CLEARLY DONT BELIEVE IN MOHAMMED ALLAH THOUGH. just for you to know it is not always true that a prophet wont be honoured in his homeland

Lordcenturion2:
Because yeoshua is just a human being like every other people, he's trying to attach himself to what jew people believe and trying to change their law and create his own law and religion, jews people know him very well and his cunning and tricky way, but we black people don't know anything about yeoshua (jesus) backgrounds or how he lives his life, we just accept wat his followers wrote down in new testament, it was his followers who attach old testament with their own write up(new testament),that's why u will never see new testament in jew Bible.. Assume that those self acclaimed god (eg guru maharaj,olumba olumba) has lived in the past, and some of their illiterate members has wrote down many miracle lies about him in order to immortalised them, this is how many people will accept their teachings, yeoshua was punished when he was trying to cause confusion among religion men, it was his followers who passed down many lies about him and his miracle. Paul is a rome descendent, who was born in in Israel because Israel was a colony of Rome that time, he was the one who took the writtens to Rome where it was remodify in his own way.

Butterflyleo:
By enforcement and punishment based on apostasy

helpee:
and how did our fore fathers got converted to christianity? The europeans forced them, burnt their gods at gun point, jailed some others. You must have read THINGS FALL APART. That was just a tip of how our forefathers got converted. You must have heard about CRUSADES TOO. People were burnt live to accept jesus

Olabenjamen22:
And who is asking whether he was regarded in Islam or not?

What are you people doing in Christian trend self?

As you said, no body give a Bleep about your Allah here, so carry your Allah go back to your cult group.

I guess you are more knowledgeable than the one that send him, because God himself refer to him as his son. John 3:16

the angel that brought the good news to Mary refer to him as the Son of God,
Luke 1:35 New International Version (NIV)
35 The angel answered, “The Holy Spirit will come on you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called [ a ] the Son of God.

Satan himself refer to him as the son of God

Luke 4:3 Contemporary English Version (CEV)
3 The devil said to Jesus, “If you are God’s Son, tell this stone to turn into bread.”


demon acknowledge his sonship

Matthew 8:29 Contemporary English Version (CEV)
29 Suddenly they shouted, “Jesus, Son of God, what do you want with us? Have you come to punish us before our time?”

So who is that gigolo Muhammad to say otherwise.

And don't come here typing rubbish on how God call some other people his son unless you are ready to show me where they refer to God as father.

darkchild64:
Let me ask you a simple question,if an Israeli man appeared today and started performing scientifally proven miracles,and doing other supernatural stuff,this guy claims that he is the younger brother of Jesus and that Yahweh has now changed the rules that you would need to believe in him(let's say his name is Ben-Yedder) you would have to pray through his name to assess Yahweh and you need not follow the New Testament laws again,he creates new laws,giving that some people are starting to believe him

WOULD YOU BELIEVE ?

divicoded:
Oga your question is theoretical and not realistic or practical
Jesus is alive forever more, period!
Ben-Yadder or non Ben-Yadder, Jesus is the King of kings- He conquered and defeated death!

Butterflyleo:
Is that still the case today? No
Is this still the case for Islam today? Yes

Go figure.

mmsen:
Isn't he currently dead? How did he conquer death if he is no longer alive?

divicoded:
Extreme f00lisness is the act of displaying your level of stupidity in public

1stSonOfLucifer:
And yet some funny & large bunch of jokers in Africa believed he's the messiah

Jesus story is not different from mythical pagan god stories. In fact, it was plagiarised from other myths.

How is Easter Day Calculated?
A lot of people don't know Easter day is a pagan celebration of their god Attis. Many also don't know how it's calculated yet they defend what they have zero knowledge about. Well today, Amma tell you guys how it's calculated.


Nicaea set the date of Easter as the Sunday following the paschal full moon, which is the full moon that falls on or after the vernal (spring) equinox. In practice, that means that Easter is always the first Sunday after the first full moon that falls on or after March 21.

EASTER

In the fourth century an anonymous author tells us that Christians and followers of the Mystery godman Attis were both struck by the remarkable coincidence between the death and resurrection of their respective deities. This gave rise to bitter controversy between the adherents of the rival religions.

The Pagans contended that the resurrection of Christ was a spurious imitation of the resurrection of Attis and the Christians that the resurrection of Attis was a diabolical counterfeit of the resurrection of Christ.

The Megalensia was a spring festival in the Mysteries of Attis which, like Easter, lasted for three days.

During this time the myth of Attis was performed as a passion play, just as the story of Jesus was performed as a passion play in the Middle Ages. An effigy of the corpse of Attis was tied to a sacred pine-tree and decorated with flowers sacred to both Attis and his Syrian counterpart Adonis.

It was then buried in a sepulchre. But like Jesus, on the third day Attis rose again.
In the darkness of the night a light was brought to his open grave, while the presiding priest anointed the lips of the initiates with holy oil, comforting them with the words: 'To you likewise there shall come salvation from your trouble.'

The mythologist Sir James Frazer writes: 'But when night had fallen, the sorrow of the worshippers was turned to joy. For suddenly a light shone in the darkness: the tomb was opened; the god had risen from the dead; and as the priest touched the lips of the weeping mourners with balm, he softly whispered in their ears the glad tidings of salvation.

The resurrection of the god was hailed by his disciples as a promise that they too would issue triumphantly from the corruption of the grave. On the morrow, the twenty-fifth day of March, which was reckoned the vernal equinox, the divine resurrection was celebrated with a wild outburst of glee. At Rome, and probably elsewhere, the celebration took the form of a carnival. It was the festival of Joy {Hilaria).'

According to an ancient and widespread Christian tradition Jesus died on 25 March, the same day that the resurrection of Attis was officially celebrated at Rome.

However, another ancient Christian tradition, reported by the Church father Lactantius, places the death of Christ on 23 March and his resurrection on 25 March, which coincides exactly with the death and resurrection of Attis.

The Anthesteria, the spring festival of the Mysteries of Dionysus, was another three-day festival, of which one modern authority comments, 'A certain similarity with the sequence of Good Friday and Easter cannot be overlooked.’

Easter rites observed in Greece, Sicily and southern Italy still bear a striking resemblance to the Mystery rites of Adonis.

At the festival of Adonis the air was infused with the sweet aromas of incense and filled with loud lamentation at the death of the godman. The embalmed image of Adonis was then laid in a coffin and borne to his grave, but the faithful afterwards consoled themselves with the assurance that the godman was alive.

The Pagan writer Lucian records: They make offerings to Adonis as to one dead, and the day after the morrow they tell the story that he lives.'

In the gospels we are told that Jesus' corpse was 'wrapped in a linen sheet' and anointed with 'more than half a hundred weight of a mixture of myrrh and aloes'. According to Plutarch, a representation of Osiris was also wrapped with linen and anointed with myrrh. Likewise, in the Mysteries of Adonis an image of the corpse of the godman was washed, anointed with spices and wrapped around with linen or wool.

After his death Jesus descends to hell, then resurrects on the third day. Plutarch tells us that Osiris, likewise, is said to have descended to hell and then arisen from the dead on the third day.

An ancient Egyptian inscription promises an initiate that he will also be resurrected with his Lord: 'As truly as Osiris lives shall he live,-as truly as Osiris is not dead shall he not die.'

Having resurrected, Jesus ascends to heaven. The Church father Origen refers to Osiris as a young god, who was 'restored to life, and went up to heaven'.253 In the Mysteries of Adonis, initiates annually mourned the death of the godman with the shrill notes of the flute, weeping and beating of breasts, but on the third day he was believed to be resurrected and to ascend up to heaven in the presence of his worshippers.

According to some myths acted out as part of the Mysteries of Dionysus, shortly after his death Dionysus also rose from the grave and ascended to heaven.

In the Mysteries of Mithras initiates enacted a similar resurrection scene.
Having accomplished his mission on Earth, Mithras was said to have ascended to heaven in a sunchariot. Like Jesus, who sits at the right hand of the Father after his ascension, Mithras was believed to have been enthroned by the God of Light as ruler of the world.

Also like Jesus, Mithras was said to be waiting in heaven for the End of Time, when he would return to Earth to awaken the dead and pass judgement.

Echoes of these mythological motifs are, once again, found in the legends of the sages of the Mysteries. Seneca tells us that, like Jesus, the philosopher Canus foretold that he would reappear three days after his death and did indeed return from the grave to one of his friends to 'discourse on the survival of the spirit'.259 Heraclides tells us that after a banquet to celebrate one of Empedocles' miracles, the great sage suddenly ascended to heaven accompanied by glorious celestial lights.

It was said that Pythagoras descended to Hades in search of wisdom,261 and after his death reappeared to his disciples and ascended into heaven.262 The ritual sequence of death, descent into the Underworld and regeneration is known to have been an important analogy of initiation in the Pythagorean Mysteries from the earliest times. Given all these dying, resurrecting and ascending Pagan godmen and sages, it is not surprising to find Celsus indignant at Christian claims that Jesus is unique.

He is amazed at the Christians' literal interpretation of what to him are obviously myths, writing, Is your belief based on the "fact" that this Jesus told in advance that he would rise again after his death? That your story includes his predictions of triumphing over the grave? Well, let it be so. Let's assume for the present that he foretold his resurrection. Are you ignorant of the multitudes who have invented similar tales to lead simple-minded hearers astray? It is said that Zamolix, Pythagoras' servant, convinced the Scythians that he had risen from the dead, having hidden himself away in a cave for several years, and what about Pythagoras himself in Italy -or Phampsinitus in Egypt? Now then, who else: What about Orpheus among the Odrysians, Protesilaus in Thessaly and above all Heracles and Theseus? But quite apart from all these risings from the dead, we must look carefully at the question of the resurrection of the body as a possibility given to mortals. Doubtless you will freely admit that these other stories are legends, even as they appear to me; but you will go on to say that you

Lordcenturion2:
Because yeoshua is just a human being like every other people, he's trying to attach himself to what jew people believe and trying to change their law and create his own law and religion, jews people know him very well and his cunning and tricky way, but we black people don't know anything about yeoshua (jesus) backgrounds or how he lives his life, we just accept wat his followers wrote down in new testament, it was his followers who attach old testament with their own write up(new testament),that's why u will never see new testament in jew Bible.. Assume that those self acclaimed god (eg guru maharaj,olumba olumba) has lived in the past, and some of their illiterate members has wrote down many miracle lies about him in order to immortalised them, this is how many people will accept their teachings, yeoshua was punished when he was trying to cause confusion among religion men, it was his followers who passed down many lies about him and his miracle. Paul is a rome descendent, who was born in in Israel because Israel was a colony of Rome that time, he was the one who took the writtens to Rome where it was remodify in his own way.