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Re: Founder Of Amazon, Jeff Bezos Lost $54 Billion Over Donald Trump's Opinion by SarkinYarki: 9:34am On Apr 02, 2018
happney65:
Trump is so so full of lies he lies through lies..I actually thought amazon was trully ripping off usps as Trump said until I read about it well and knew the truth..

Trump is afraid the Washington post owned by Jeff bozos that keeps on bursting his lies would eventually run him down that is why he keeps on coming for Jeff and Amazon..

He is a stupid individual that will soon meet his Waterloo..The Mueller investigation is closing in on him and he is getting worked up..
All you Satanist keep ranting Mueller Mueller while Trump keeps winning ..If Jeff Bezos doensnt do the right thing to favour the American people the good govt will have no choice than to break up Amazon to save mom and pop retailers
..If the American govt could rein in rockerfellers standard oil who is Amazon which is actually just a big bubble of an internet company
Re: Founder Of Amazon, Jeff Bezos Lost $54 Billion Over Donald Trump's Opinion by CSTR1002: 9:35am On Apr 02, 2018
But Trump has a point here.

Allowing big empires like Amazon unfettered access will criple small retail business providing the same services and trying to survive.

Amazon is big enough . They should leave some space for ordinary Americans .

That is why Obama always patronized small eatries during his time as president so as to give them publicity. He deliberately avoided McDonald's.
Re: Founder Of Amazon, Jeff Bezos Lost $54 Billion Over Donald Trump's Opinion by Nobody: 9:40am On Apr 02, 2018
Guidette:
How is Trump doing a bad thing here? Amazon/Jeff Bezos paid ZERO, I repeat, ZERO taxes in 2017. In fact he was paid about a net 800 million dollars by the daddy US government! If an Amazon worker earning less than $30,000 paid more taxes than a fucking billionaire... sorry.... the richest man in the world, then you know that it is a broken system that exists in the USA. An oligarchy. Remember even Warren Buffet said a couple of years ago that his secretary paid more taxes than he did.

What Amazon has done is to use its paid lackeys in government especially at the state level on being exempt from tax and even collecting government subsidies for their PRIVATE business. This is a business whose model is to operate at a loss to drive away all competition around it, especially small businesses, and then control more than 50% of the market of the commodity being sold, before hiking their prices. This has made many regular Americans who were using their businesses to get by, close down their shops and made them much poorer plus in more debt.
A rigged system if you ask me, yet gullible Nigerians just see a post and jump on it without knowing the facts. Smh angry

For the unbelievers, here are my sources:
https://itep.org/amazon-inc-paid-zero-in-federal-taxes-in-2017-gets-789-million-windfall-from-new-tax-law/
https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/amazon-earned-5-6b-in-2017-but-paid-no-federal-taxes
Buffett was referring to the capital gain taxes being lower than the income taxes since he gets more money from dividends than from his $100K salary.
Re: Founder Of Amazon, Jeff Bezos Lost $54 Billion Over Donald Trump's Opinion by maasoap(m): 9:44am On Apr 02, 2018
Guidette:
I am not American nor do I have a care about their rigged 2 party system. I am a realist and take things as they go. If Trump said something about Amazon and it dropped their share prices, I am happy. Don't give a Bleep about Trump, Republicans, Democrats or any of their stupid charades.
Neither did I say that you did. All what I said was that Trump is Jeff and Jeff is Trump.
Re: Founder Of Amazon, Jeff Bezos Lost $54 Billion Over Donald Trump's Opinion by martineverest(m): 9:54am On Apr 02, 2018
cashreport:
his wealth is linked to Amazon

so meaning that his wealth has also dropped

Forbes rate richest with their investment.

anyways my Bill Gates returns back to number 1.

richest man of all time my mentor..bill Gates
he only lost 10 billion dollars not 50 billion
Re: Founder Of Amazon, Jeff Bezos Lost $54 Billion Over Donald Trump's Opinion by ourkobo: 9:54am On Apr 02, 2018
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Re: Founder Of Amazon, Jeff Bezos Lost $54 Billion Over Donald Trump's Opinion by Olumaeme: 9:56am On Apr 02, 2018
happney65:
Trump is so so full of lies he lies through lies..I actually thought amazon was trully ripping off usps as Trump said until I read about it well and knew the truth..

Trump is afraid the Washington post owned by Jeff bozos that keeps on bursting his lies would eventually run him down that is why he keeps on coming for Jeff and Amazon..

He is a stupid individual that will soon meet his Waterloo..The Mueller investigation is closing in on him and he is getting worked up..
Dey deceive yourself, 8 years too sure for Trump
Re: Founder Of Amazon, Jeff Bezos Lost $54 Billion Over Donald Trump's Opinion by Mcreloaded(m): 9:59am On Apr 02, 2018
Idrismusty97:
This is why if you are rich, Acquire power at all costs! Whether directly or indirectly. Lobby senators and representatives if you must, Bribe your way up to the top or risk letting one dumbo who doesn't even know how he became president to come fûck you up. Money is power only when you use it right.
MKO Abiola tried this your advice and where is he now?
Re: Founder Of Amazon, Jeff Bezos Lost $54 Billion Over Donald Trump's Opinion by haconjy(m): 10:00am On Apr 02, 2018
Stop attacking trump. He has done nothing wrong by doing that. He's trying to make sure that the local retailer do not loose their work and that wealth are distributed between the rich and the poor.... This is not nigeria where richman continue to be rich and poor continue too
Re: Founder Of Amazon, Jeff Bezos Lost $54 Billion Over Donald Trump's Opinion by daylae(m): 10:05am On Apr 02, 2018
Espada10:
This is the difference between Power and Money... Dangote is 100% richer than buhari ..but buhari has the power to fvck him up big time
that's why power is always the next thing on the check list of rich folks. They realise the need to secure their wealth.
Re: Founder Of Amazon, Jeff Bezos Lost $54 Billion Over Donald Trump's Opinion by Nobody: 10:07am On Apr 02, 2018
happney65:
Trump is so so full of lies he lies through lies..I actually thought amazon was trully ripping off usps as Trump said until I read about it well and knew the truth..

Trump is afraid the Washington post owned by Jeff bozos that keeps on bursting his lies would eventually run him down that is why he keeps on coming for Jeff and Amazon..

He is a stupid individual that will soon meet his Waterloo..The Mueller investigation is closing in on him and he is getting worked up..
You read? Post links here let me read too, you might be subjective in your understanding of the post.

Better still, create another thread and post it there,let's talk about it.
Re: Founder Of Amazon, Jeff Bezos Lost $54 Billion Over Donald Trump's Opinion by Nobody: 10:14am On Apr 02, 2018
Guidette:
He didn't pay any taxes in 2017. In fact he was paid more money by the government. A simple google search would show you. Plus I know all this information because I read and investigate my news from different outlets and not rely on fake mainstream media news for my information. People need to be more wise and know that all these billionaires don't give a Bleep about us. We are the slave class or the useless eaters as they call us. Research into a lot of things and you will know most of what you have been taught since you were a kid are mostly lies. Be smart, read books, use the internet to your advantage.

Sources
https://itep.org/amazon-inc-paid-zero-in-federal-taxes-in-2017-gets-789-million-windfall-from-new-tax-law/
https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/amazon-earned-5-6b-in-2017-but-paid-no-federal-taxes
You're smart and intelligent.

A lot of Nigerians are so emotional, once they hate you, any good thing you do will be tag as bad.
Re: Founder Of Amazon, Jeff Bezos Lost $54 Billion Over Donald Trump's Opinion by Nobody: 10:15am On Apr 02, 2018
haconjy:
Stop attacking trump. He has done nothing wrong by doing that. He's trying to make sure that the local retailer do not loose their work and that wealth are distributed between the rich and the poor.... This is not nigeria where richman continue to be rich and poor continue too
Is it wrong to establish a big company?
Re: Founder Of Amazon, Jeff Bezos Lost $54 Billion Over Donald Trump's Opinion by bellville: 10:20am On Apr 02, 2018
Idrismusty97:
This is why if you are rich, Acquire power at all costs! Whether directly or indirectly. Lobby senators and representatives if you must, Bribe your way up to the top or risk letting one dumbo who doesn't even know how he became president to come fûck you up. Money is power only when you use it right.
Very true. I think Dangote understands this.
Re: Founder Of Amazon, Jeff Bezos Lost $54 Billion Over Donald Trump's Opinion by nametalkam: 10:26am On Apr 02, 2018
USPS offers Amazon the same discount that any bulk shipper receives.

USPS doesnt make any money from 1st class Mail (regular paper mail) due to technology like Email, Web, etc...However USPS does make money from Parcel delivery like they do for Amazon.

Amazon is the #1 reason USPS delivers on Sunday!

Bite the hand that feed you and you find out quick.....

anyway lets watch China and the tariff on 125 US products announced yesterday and see how the stock market reacts .....
Re: Founder Of Amazon, Jeff Bezos Lost $54 Billion Over Donald Trump's Opinion by Espada10: 10:27am On Apr 02, 2018
daylae:
that's why power is always the next thing on the check list of rich folks. They realise the need to secure their wealth.
influence is the foundation of power
Re: Founder Of Amazon, Jeff Bezos Lost $54 Billion Over Donald Trump's Opinion by VULCAN(m): 11:11am On Apr 02, 2018
....Only for 8 years, then Buhari goes back to his cows and Dangote bounces back as the richest African.


Espada10:
This is the difference between Power and Money... Dangote is 100% richer than buhari ..but buhari has the power to fvck him up big time
Re: Founder Of Amazon, Jeff Bezos Lost $54 Billion Over Donald Trump's Opinion by Nobody: 11:28am On Apr 02, 2018
Extreme capitalism is is when one capitalist through his outlet raked in $50 billion in one year at the detriment of other retailers. Most US retailers are under immense pressure now, some are even closing stores including almighty Walmart. If breaking up Amazon will save other outlet, so be it. I don't like Trump too much though
Re: Founder Of Amazon, Jeff Bezos Lost $54 Billion Over Donald Trump's Opinion by Nobody: 11:33am On Apr 02, 2018
jericco1:
how person go lose $54billon haba. I just need 0.1% of it.
that money is paper money. it has no real value
Re: Founder Of Amazon, Jeff Bezos Lost $54 Billion Over Donald Trump's Opinion by Ekaka1(m): 11:45am On Apr 02, 2018
Espada10:
This is the difference between Power and Money... Dangote is 100% richer than buhari ..but buhari has the power to fvck him up big time
No ...no...no...not in a shitty economy like Naija's
Re: Founder Of Amazon, Jeff Bezos Lost $54 Billion Over Donald Trump's Opinion by Nobody: 11:47am On Apr 02, 2018
nametalkam:
USPS offers Amazon the same discount that any bulk shipper receives.

USPS doesnt make any money from 1st class Mail (regular paper mail) due to technology like Email, Web, etc...However USPS does make money from Parcel delivery like they do for Amazon.

Amazon is the #1 reason USPS delivers on Sunday!

Bite the hand that feed you and you find out quick.....

anyway lets watch China and the tariff on 125 US products announced yesterday and see how the stock market reacts .....
USPS is running at a loss, billion of dollar deficit every year. As for China tariff, he that is down need fear no fall. Most thing in the US are being imported from China, and I don't think China import anything they can produce from anywhere else. Raise tariff on my fruit while I raise tariff on your steel...this is a war America cannot afford to run away from, relying on bubble market economy while production collapse is the requirement to becoming a third world country. If market economy is so great as those bribed economist wanted us to believe US will not be running at a deficit 10 straight year with decaying infrastructure while China break new grounds and become extremely rich, buying over most real estate in new York.
Re: Founder Of Amazon, Jeff Bezos Lost $54 Billion Over Donald Trump's Opinion by Mcreloaded(m): 11:48am On Apr 02, 2018
Mcreloaded:
MKO Abiola tried this your advice and where is he now?
Should Dangote go for power
Re: Founder Of Amazon, Jeff Bezos Lost $54 Billion Over Donald Trump's Opinion by linearity: 11:50am On Apr 02, 2018
Newsprex:
Ohh, you can read it from the source. It was explained and simplified there.

It's about Donald Trump trying to stop Jeff Bezos - World richest man, from USA post office delivery service. This drastically make Amazon lost over $53 billion in just a day.
Trump was not trying to stop him him from using US post office.

Trump in his usual clueless, ignorant inaccurate manner tweeted that Amazon is cheating the US postal service because of the amount agreed upon between the two for mail delivery. Trump was wrong and inaccurate, he have a vendetta against Washington Post own by Jeff and used that to attack him.

US Post office came out and indicated that, the partnership with Amazon is profitable to them and no one is cheating the other.

Amazon will just be fine, Trump is a clueless and ignorant school yard bully.
Re: Founder Of Amazon, Jeff Bezos Lost $54 Billion Over Donald Trump's Opinion by AZeD1(m): 12:01pm On Apr 02, 2018
transformed:
USPS is running at a loss, billion of dollar deficit every year. As for China tariff, he that is down need fear no fall. Most thing in the US are being imported from China, and I don't think China import anything they can produce from anywhere else. Raise tariff on my fruit while I raise tariff on your steel...this is a war America cannot afford to run away from, relying on bubble market economy while production collapse is the requirement to becoming a third world country. If market economy is so great as those bribed economist wanted us to believe US will not be running at a deficit 10 straight year with decaying infrastructure while China break new grounds and become extremely rich, buying over most real estate in new York.
USPS runs a deficit because the law requires them to prefund retirees health care benefit.

Amazon doesn't get any special favor.
Re: Founder Of Amazon, Jeff Bezos Lost $54 Billion Over Donald Trump's Opinion by linearity: 12:06pm On Apr 02, 2018
transformed:
USPS is running at a loss, billion of dollar deficit every year. As for China tariff, he that is down need no fall. Most thing in the US at being imported from China, and I don't think China import anything they can produce from anywhere else. Raise tariff on my fruit while I raise tariff on your steel...this is a war America cannot afford to run away from, relying on bubble market economy while production collapse is the requirement to becoming a third world country. If market economy is so great as those bribed economist wanted us to believe US will not be running at a deficit 10 straight year with decaying infrastructure while China break new grounds and become extremely rich, buying over most real estate in new York.
USPS is running a deficit is a scam and shell game setup by the GOP so they can have opportunity to privatize it.

Agreed volume of mails had reduced overtime due to email and other technologies.

These are the two major factors driving USPS deficit and they are all artificial and put in place by the US Congress...

1. USPS cannot set their own rates just like other delivery services. Their rates are far below market rate. You can send a first class mail with an amount less than you can use to buy an envelope and the USPS can do nothing about it.

2. Congress tied their hand and force them to fund employees health and retirement 10 years into the future, even when those monies will not be used. No other US business does that....if you join USPS today, Congress requires the USPS to write a check totally your estimate 10 years retirement to the treasury within a month...if you do not stay until retirement e.g. get another job tomorrow, died, etc the treasury does not refund the money back to the USPS, this is clearly a congressional scam.

So, USPS can become profitable overnight if the shackles around their ankles are removed and they are allowed to function as a business.
Re: Founder Of Amazon, Jeff Bezos Lost $54 Billion Over Donald Trump's Opinion by AZeD1(m): 12:06pm On Apr 02, 2018
Guidette:
He didn't pay any taxes in 2017. In fact he was paid more money by the government. A simple google search would show you. Plus I know all this information because I read and investigate my news from different outlets and not rely on fake mainstream media news for my information. People need to be more wise and know that all these billionaires don't give a Bleep about us. We are the slave class or the useless eaters as they call us. Research into a lot of things and you will know most of what you have been taught since you were a kid are mostly lies. Be smart, read books, use the internet to your advantage.

Sources
https://itep.org/amazon-inc-paid-zero-in-federal-taxes-in-2017-gets-789-million-windfall-from-new-tax-law/
https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/amazon-earned-5-6b-in-2017-but-paid-no-federal-taxes
And yet Trump decided to reduce tax?

Behind every billionaire is a tax lawyer and they will find ways around tax laws. That's not the fault of the billionaire.

From the link you put
That’s largely attributable to “excess stock-based compensation deductions” and the effect of the 2017 Tax Act, according to the company’s U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission filing earlier this month. In other words, Amazon was able to leverage the tax credits and breaks to zero out taxes it owed this year, according to the Institute on Taxation and Economy Policy (ITEP), a non-partisan think tank.

The tax plan, which was signed into law by President Trump in late December, slashed the corporate tax rate to 21% from 35%, but it also instituted a mandatory one-time tax on accumulated earnings of foreign subsidiaries.
Amazon paid 0 tax because of bill Trump signed and Trump is hating? Really?

Who's fault is it?
Re: Founder Of Amazon, Jeff Bezos Lost $54 Billion Over Donald Trump's Opinion by jjmk(m): 12:10pm On Apr 02, 2018
crownedprinz:
Am i the only one that don't understand the whole story?
Simple explanation: Bezos is just like Dangote here feeding fat on undercutting competition with their vast resources and creating a monopoly sort of.
Small time biz people have gone out of biz because of the practices of Amazon.
Trump is right, wants to redistribute the wealth instead of one man grabbing everything.
Re: Founder Of Amazon, Jeff Bezos Lost $54 Billion Over Donald Trump's Opinion by Nobody: 12:13pm On Apr 02, 2018
AZeD1:
USPS runs a deficit because the law requires them to prefund retirees health care benefit.

Amazon doesn't get any special favor.
Amazon doesn't get any special favour yes...but since the agreement you talked about USPS deficit jumped from 2 billion to 5.5 billion yearly. If I deliver your good @$10 and you pay me @$3 for the service. You increasing my dispatchment and making me work on Sunday is not you doing me favor but you are obviously increasing my loss. Subsidizing for everybody makes a lot of sense but when world richest man is now the one benefitting billions from grossly increased subsidy payment calls for reflection...
Re: Founder Of Amazon, Jeff Bezos Lost $54 Billion Over Donald Trump's Opinion by Nobody: 12:13pm On Apr 02, 2018
Espada10:
This is the difference between Power and Money... Dangote is 100% richer than buhari ..but buhari has the power to fvck him up big time
for just only 4 years grin
Re: Founder Of Amazon, Jeff Bezos Lost $54 Billion Over Donald Trump's Opinion by AZeD1(m): 12:14pm On Apr 02, 2018
transformed:
Amazon doesn't get any special favour yes...but since the agreement you talked about USPS deficit jumped from 2 billion to 5.5 billion yearly. If I deliver your good @$10 and you pay me @$3 for the service. You increasing my dispatchment and making me work on Sunday is not you doing me favor but you are obviously increasing my loss. Subsidizing for everybody makes a lot of sense but when world richest man is now the one benefitting billions from grossly increased subsidy payment calls for reflection...
linearity:
USPS is running a deficit is a scam and shell game setup by the GOP so they can have opportunity to privatize it.

Agreed volume of mails had reduced overtime due to email and other technologies.

These are the two major factors driving USPS deficit and they are all artificial and put in place by the US Congress...

1. USPS cannot set their own rates just like other delivery services. Their rates are far below market rate. You can send a first class mail with an amount less than you can use to buy an envelope and the USPS can do nothing about it.

2. Congress tied their hand and force them to fund employees health and retirement 10 years into the future, even when those monies will not be used. No other US business does that....if you join USPS today, Congress requires the USPS to write a check totally your estimate 10 years retirement to the treasury within a month...if you do not stay until retirement e.g. get another job tomorrow, died, etc the treasury does not refund the money back to the USPS, this is clearly a congressional scam.

So, USPS can become profitable overnight if the shackles around their ankles are removed and they are allowed to function as a business.
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