5thElement:


You are right, but we won't know who is capable or not until they come out and tell us what their blueprint looks like

Ezzatly
She didn't

. How I wish these things were written on the foreheads of people.

they are
You just have to be willing to open yippee eyes

igbodefender:
If the price of crude oil had not crashed, I don't think people would be saying things like this about Buhari. Past administrations share the blame for some of what's happening now because a lot of them didn't save enough.

#CommercialCattleRanching

what is dis one saying? Past admin spent how much all in all. Including the one they said they stole? How much has this admin spent in 3 yrs without nothing to show? Lai n co know what they are doing accusing d past admin but d joke is on those of u who chose to believe them without using ur God-given head. Or is it dat u just chose to believe dem or what?

OfoIgbo:


The bottomline of your message is that you still support the paedophilic dullard over the ineffectual buffoon. I suppose that is your prerogative. But in doing that, you riddled your writeup with ERRORS OF JUDGEMENT, which Sowore is known for, and for which I am against him ever tasting the presidency as he will be far worse than Buhari, principally because of his love and penchant for ERRORS OF JUDGEMENT and more.

Firstly, you wrongly insinuated that my dislike for the Buhari presidency is because of his Fulani and islamic background. Very much the sort of wrong conclusions and ERROR OF JUDGEMENT I will expect from Sowore. Well let me spare a few seconds to obliterate this wrong notion. Why didn't the SS and SE also hate Shehu Shagari, afterall he's muslim and Fulani? Why didn't the SS and SE also hate Yaradua, afterall he was muslim and Fulani? Why are SE and SSners not diametrically opposed to Atiku (of course his support of Buhari's campaign may sully him with the ERROR OF JUDGEMENT label, but he's a Fulani just like Buhari, so I can almost understand his support for his kinsman. That doesn't mean I justify this support).
Again, I don't think Sowore is Fulani neither do I think he is muslim, so my lack of support for his presidential ambition has nothing to do with any assumed hatred I or the SS/SE bloc have for Fulanis or muslims.
By the way, do you know that if I have the choice selecting either Atiku or Orji Uzor Kalu as the president of Nigeria, I will go for Atiku without hesitation, in spite of the fact that Kalu is as much an Igbo and a christian as me. So please spare us the alleged usual Soworeic ethnic and religious baiting, we grew accustomed to, in the run-up to the 2015 election
So from the few examples I gave above, you can see that the SE and SS have nothing against Fulanis or Islam.

As to whether there was corruption in GEJ's era? Of course there was huge corruption in GEJ's era. There was also huge corruption in OBJ's era and in Yaradua's era
But for some reason, because of some innate hatred that Sowore and others had for GEJ, they started propping up Buhari as an alternative. Buhari was never an alternative when OBJ was in power. The same goes for Yaradua. Now that's a major problem, because Ijaws in particular and easterners in general rightly figured out that a different set of rules now applied for GEJ.
I wasn't even happy with the way GEJ's government was going and the fact that he allowed his wife so much power, as to be sullying his presidency, but that notwithstanding, FAIR IS FAIR IS FAIR, especially in a nation as complicated as Nigeria.

I will even go a little further to categorically state that Sowore's support for Buhari's 2015 campaign, was a lot more sinister than just a mere ERROR OF JUDGEMENT (EOJ). EOJ may explain away the change of heart brought about by Buhari's non-fulfillment of his campaign manifesto, but bear in mind that Buhari declined to be judged alongside his peers by avoiding televised debates arranged for presidential candidates. He also never did showed us his WASC certificate in the run-up to the 2015 election, which in itself, was a criminal and corrupt act. But Sowore and the other hypnotised and zombified morons happily overlooked these grave issues that should have been a major source of concern for all right-thinking people. And you are here trying to convince Nigerians that a man of such despicable qualities should be considered for the presidential post.

Now, it is true that we need a youth to assume the leadership of this nation, but not just any youth. We need a youth with SOUND JUDGEMENT, and not one that will fall for any false illusion, and will happily condone corruption tendencies. This obviously rules out Sowore

So which candidate are you going for then?

5thElement:


So which candidate are you going for then?

Before I answer your question, let me state that it will seem both of us are in agreement that GEJ and PMB are failures. It is only that in 2015, I did know that PMB will be more of a failure than GEJ. I knew PMB's failure will make GEJ look like a huge success. That was why I preferred GEJ retaining the presidency.

Now to answer your question, these are some of the people I wouldn't mind if they're to become the president of Nigeria come 2019
Ayo Fayose, Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala, FFK, OfoIgbo

Pat Utomi, Oby Ezekwesili and Chukwuma Soludo would have made the list, but for the glaring ERROR OF JUDGEMENT they made in 2015. I have lost confidence in their decision-making capabilities. I just don't fancy having a president that will make a glaring error that I wouldn't have made, only to show up a few years down the line, to start telling me IF I HAD KNOWN; well, I KNOW, and should have been asked.

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Before I answer your question, let me state that it will seem both of us are in agreement that GEJ and PMB are failures. It is only that in 2015, I did know that PMB will be more of a failure than GEJ. I knew PMB's failure will make GEJ look like a huge success. That was why I preferred GEJ retaining the presidency.

While I agree that both PMB and GEJ are failures, to say PMB is a greater failure is to portray a lack of logic.
There's no way you can compare both administrations. Weren't you the one that said people wouldn't say such about Buhari if the oil prices hadn't gone down? GEJ had a lot more resources than PMB.

GEJ had 6years to right the wrongs of Nigeria, PMB has just done 3years.

Where in heaven's sake is the comparison? I just don't see it.

Now to answer your question, these are some of the people I wouldn't mind if they're to become the president of Nigeria come 2019
Ayo Fayose, Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala, FFK, OfoIgbo

Lolest. You are kidding, right? Please tell me you are kidding. As a matter of fact the only name I might be willing to consider is Ofoigbo, but since he too has an error of judgement in thinking had Jonathan's government of 6 years and $120/barrel is better than Buhari's 3years and $40something/barrel. I definitely will not consider him since he won't know what to do if crude oil prices rise to $100/barrel.

As to the other names, please perish the thought unless you're using style to wish calamity on this country.

Pat Utomi, Oby Ezekwesili and Chukwuma Soludo would have made the list, but for the glaring ERROR OF JUDGEMENT they made in 2015. I have lost confidence in their decision-making capabilities. I just don't fancy having a president that will make a glaring error that I wouldn't have made, only to show up a few years down the line, to start telling me IF I HAD KNOWN; well, I KNOW, and should have been asked.

I wouldn't mind Ezekwesili or Soludo as president. Pat Utomi ain't so above board. If you know, you know.

FFK? Fayose? Iweala? God forbid a billion times.

In a functioning society, the 3 will be adorning prison clothes.

OfoIgbo:
Sowore has already shown his stupidity and acute myopia by being one of those that foisted Buhari atop Nigerian affairs, when people of sound mind were screaming about the disaster that Buhari will be to Nigeria,if he were elected.

No one with any working brain cell should listen to people like Sowore. He has already shown me his mental level in 2015

how did any body foist buhari on you

Bari22:
Managing Nigeria is different from managing Sahara reporters, be careful young boy

47 is boy in ur village?how old are you?

5thElement:



And you keep mentioning Jonathan. In your first comment you said the previous administration's shared in the current economic crisis. Can you in all sincerity say that you saw this video you are talking about in 2015?


Even if you did, could you in all sincerity have trusted the source knowing how PDP was desperate to retain power.


Did you see the documentary they did about Bola Tinubu and how he dragged them to court and they had to apologize and so on..?


If you've forgotten the wanton corruption of the Jonathan era, shouldn't the present economic crisis remind you of the unrestricted looting and pillaging of the nation's wealth that went on under Jonathan?


Was Sowore the millions of Nigerians who decided with one voice and with their votes that they'd had enough of Jonathan and his merry band of kleptomaniacs?


You just hate Sowore because he was instrumental in chasing away the ineffectual buffoon from power.


You also hate him because he's always unearthed corrupt practices amongst the political class from every tribe of the nation.


You claim you're more intelligent than Sowore because you claim you'd seen Buhari' ineptitude right from the start.


I think we both can agree that the real reason you hate Buhari is because he's Fulani and also a moslem. As opposed to clueless Jonathan who is from the South and claims to be a Christian.


I'm not saying you should vote for Sowore. What I'm saying is, you conclude that he isn't of sound mind and fit for the position of presidency because of an error in judgment also made by millions of Nigerians who were tired of Jonathan's kleptomania and voted for Buhari.


If you were impartial, you'll first of all obtain this man's economic and socio-developmental blueprint before condemning him as not fit.


He hasn't even said anything yet other than he wants to contest and you are already up in arms against him.


A great way to encourage youths to participate in politics.


You won't do and you won't let others do.


That's not so good.


If you're more intelligent than Sowore as you claim, then come out and show us your blueprint for this nation so we can vote for you. It's not enough to be an arm chair critic.


You say you are tired of these old politicians, yet a young entrepreneur who owns his own business comes up and what do you say? He's not fit because he made an error of judgment some years back.


Seems you guys are enjoying the pain that is Nigeria.

ki won je a gboro
Ewo ni error of judgement
Theman performed as goc
Performed as military governor
Performed as petrol minister
Performed ptf
Nominated akynyili
Got 12 million votes without money
Had clueless opponent
How was anyone to know he will conk out once in office
Even fashola is disappointing
Like there is spirit holding guys hostage in aso rock
Like secret society ish

Boss13:
Sowore I think you will fail. My reasons are below

- Which political platform do you intend to pursue your ambition of being the President? Nigerians are yet to know.

Sowore party

- You will need the support of Senators and House of Representatives to pass and implement your reform programmes. At the moment, the house of assembly is occupied mainly by 2 parties (APC and PDP) both at loggerheads with themselves. You would need a large majority of your team to occupy both houses to consolidate your presidency.

No he doesn't
Simply enforce the laws have now

- The civil services and law enforcement agencies in Nigeria are largely corrupt. Any reforms that do not support their pockets may be frowned at or not implemented. There is also the possibility of civil servants renegading against the president.

Sack 1 or 2 therest will fall in line and manage their salary

- This present administration has increased the debt capacity of the country and intend to go further to borrow more loans. The high debt profile of the country will starve funds to carry out any economic and social reforms.

The loans can be retrieved grim the looters if he's serious

Recommendations
The best bet is to sensitize young Nigerian professionals to seek offices at the federal level. Create an independent political party to take office from both APC and PDP. However, there is the problem of raising campaign funds.

what's hard there
Nigerians have money
And the things that the money can buy can be donated in lieu of cash

Sctests:


This is also my arguement. If Sowore could make the mistake of being myopic enough to support

Support or reported on Jonathan cluelessness

the candidacy of a bigoted,

Jonathan was not bigoted abi

ethnocentric,

He wasn't ethnocentric doh

dumb illiterate

Did he look speak or carry himself like a degree holder?

like buhari he can not be trusted with power. He is a myopian.

Let him redeem himself by supporting someone else who wasn't myopic like him in 2015.

like who?

OfoIgbo:


The bottomline of your message is that you still support the paedophilic dullard over the ineffectual buffoon. I suppose that is your prerogative. But in doing that, you riddled your writeup with ERRORS OF JUDGEMENT, which Sowore is known for, and for which I am against him ever tasting the presidency as he will be far worse than Buhari, principally because of his love and penchant for ERRORS OF JUDGEMENT and more.

Firstly, you wrongly insinuated that my dislike for the Buhari presidency is because of his Fulani and islamic background. Very much the sort of wrong conclusions and ERROR OF JUDGEMENT I will expect from Sowore. Well let me spare a few seconds to obliterate this wrong notion. Why didn't the SS and SE also hate Shehu Shagari, afterall he's muslim and Fulani? Why didn't the SS and SE also hate Yaradua, afterall he was muslim and Fulani? Why are SE and SSners not diametrically opposed to Atiku (of course his support of Buhari's campaign may sully him with the ERROR OF JUDGEMENT label, but he's a Fulani just like Buhari, so I can almost understand his support for his kinsman. That doesn't mean I justify this support).
Again, I don't think Sowore is Fulani neither do I think he is muslim, so my lack of support for his presidential ambition has nothing to do with any assumed hatred I or the SS/SE bloc have for Fulanis or muslims.
By the way, do you know that if I have the choice selecting either Atiku or Orji Uzor Kalu as the president of Nigeria, I will go for Atiku without hesitation, in spite of the fact that Kalu is as much an Igbo and a christian as me. So please spare us the alleged usual Soworeic ethnic and religious baiting, we grew accustomed to, in the run-up to the 2015 election
So from the few examples I gave above, you can see that the SE and SS have nothing against Fulanis or Islam.

As to whether there was corruption in GEJ's era? Of course there was huge corruption in GEJ's era. There was also huge corruption in OBJ's era and in Yaradua's era

Gej own was special

But for some reason, because of some innate hatred that Sowore and others had for GEJ, they started propping up Buhari as an alternative.

No 12 million votes propped up buhari

Buhari was never an alternative when OBJ was in power. The same goes for Yaradua. Now that's a major problem, because Ijaws in particular and easterners in general rightly figured out that a different set of rules now applied for GEJ.

Obj wrangled him in knowing that yaradua would die
There was no different rule then ba

I wasn't even happy with the way GEJ's government was going and the fact that he allowed his wife so much power, as to be sullying his presidency, but that notwithstanding, FAIR IS FAIR IS FAIR, especially in a nation as complicated as Nigeria.

He has 5 years to prove himself
What is unfair there

I will even go a little further to categorically state that Sowore's support for Buhari's 2015 campaign, was a lot more sinister than just a mere ERROR OF JUDGEMENT (EOJ). EOJ may explain away the change of heart brought about by Buhari's non-fulfillment of his campaign manifesto, but bear in mind that Buhari declined to be judged alongside his peers by avoiding televised debates arranged for presidential candidates. He also never did showed us his WASC certificate in the run-up to the 2015 election, which in itself, was a criminal and corrupt act.

Corrupt how
Which constitution are you reading

But Sowore and the other hypnotised and zombified morons happily overlooked these grave issues that should have been a major source of concern for all right-thinking people. And you are here trying to convince Nigerians that a man of such despicable qualities should be considered for the presidential post.

Now, it is true

Smh

we need a youth to assume the leadership of this nation, but not just any youth. We need a youth with SOUND JUDGEMENT, and not one that will fall for any false illusion, and will happily condone corruption tendencies. This obviously rules out Sowore

name the youth
Don't forget it was a litany of youth that put us here with inexperience

igbodefender:
If the price of crude oil had not crashed, I don't think people would be saying things like this about Buhari. Past administrations share the blame for some of what's happening now because a lot of them didn't save enough.

#CommercialCattleRanching

You are right

igbodefender:
If the price of crude oil had not crashed, I don't think people would be saying things like this about Buhari. Past administrations share the blame for some of what's happening now because a lot of them didn't save enough.

#CommercialCattleRanching

Yeah I totally agree. If wasn't for the recession, then alot of the rhetoric would be much calmer, but then you have the herdsmen killings.

Bolowolowo:


Yeah I totally agree. If wasn't for the recession, then alot of the rhetoric would be much calmer, but then you have the herdsmen killings.

Yes the farmer herdsmen crises has done a lot to dampen President Buhari's popularity. We hope there is a resolution.

Governor Ganduje of Kano has already proposed to house all herdsmen in Kano. That is a viable solution. The Federal Government should empower Kano State to create mega ranches around Falgore.

zynellsmum:
You are right

This is why Government should be extra serious about diversifying the economy, now that oil prices have gone up significantly.

mikolo80:
ki won je a gboro
Ewo ni error of judgement
Theman performed as goc
Performed as military governor
Performed as petrol minister
Performed ptf
Nominated akynyili
Got 12 million votes without money
Had clueless opponent
How was anyone to know he will conk out once in office
Even fashola is disappointing
Like there is spirit holding guys hostage in aso rock
Like secret society ish

Tor, bami bi won o.

When we are supposed to band together and kick out these aged brains from governance, we youths are busy engaging in ethnic warfare online.

Of course all these old men are in cult. That one na sure thing. You think na ordinary eye carry Obasanjo come Ibadan come prostrate for a local thug like Adedibu when Obasanjo was still president ni?

These politicians eat human flesh (confirmed o) whenever they meet at night.

I know a caterer who witnessed this because she got the contract to cook for their night meeting.

She's a nervous wreck till today. She's stopped catering.

The little I know about Sowore will make me listen and follow his campaign more to see what he's got to offer.

Others can jump off the Brooklyn bridge as far as I'm concerned.

How's NY today bro?

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Let me set a few records straight.
GEJ only did 5 years of presidency. You should not be counting his acting presidency period afterall, he was only bound to follow the dictates of the president.

Buhari has ruled Nigeria for more than 4 and half years (a few months short of 5 years), as you must not forget he committed treason against this nation and illegally/corruptly ruled Nigeria for over one and half years before he was toppled by another dictator.
In fact in a few months time, Buhari would have spent more time ruling Nigeria than GEJ.

Go to the middlebelt, bearing in mind that middlebelters supported Buhari's emergence. Ortom was a major supporter of Buhari. Go there now, and ask him whether he prefers GEJ's or PMB's presidency and see the reply you will get.

When OBJ was the president, the price of oil was far lower than it is now, yet the economy was fairing far better than it is now. A few months before GEJ left the scene, the price of oil was lower than it is now, so it is not a truism that the price of oil was always above $100 all through his presidency.

With regards to general competence in managing the aspirations of the populace, GEJ was far better than PMB. Go and check the price of a bag or rice and compare with the price during GEJ's period.
Go and take a look at the list of people appointed by GEJ to man the security structure of the nation, and you will see every zone represented. Compare this with PMB's security chiefs and see NEPOTISM screaming at you.

Look at the way the lives of middlebelters are being snuffed out, with little or no concern from the presidency. All of a sudden, the president can no longer sack an IGP who clearly disobeyed his order to relocate to Benue, and known Miyetti Allah operatives who have made homicidal statements, allowed to exist in normal society.
Just yesterday, I gave an Idoma guy that works in our company some money to send to his mother and young siblings, who now spend most nights in the bush, as they fear the marauding herdsmen who attack randomly.

Let's not even look at the corruption angle, as PMB's government has proven itself to be a topnotch master in the art, starting from Baru's NNPC, to pythons swallowing money, to the SGF saga and Maina brouhaha e.t.c.

The funny thing being that this gross incompetence, nepotism, islamic expansionist/fulani occupation tendencies were predicted way before PMB was elected, but your wise gods, Sowore inclusive, convinced the other unintelligent zombies that PMB was now a born-again democrat.

With the selections that I made with regards to the 2019 presidential choice, I prefer every single one of them far above Sowore, as I know they are much more likely to appreciate the usefulness of the 1963 constitution in the nation's current political development trajectory. Let me even add Saraki to that list also

5thElement:


Tor, bami bi won o.

When we are supposed to band together and kick out these aged brains from governance, we youths are busy engaging in ethnic warfare online.

Of course all these old men are in cult. That one na sure thing. You think na ordinary eye carry Obasanjo come Ibadan come prostrate for a local thug like Adedibu when Obasanjo was still president ni?

These politicians eat human flesh (confirmed o) whenever they meet at night.

I know a caterer who witnessed this because she got the contract to cook for their night meeting.

She's a nervous wreck till today. She's stopped catering.

The little I know about Sowore will make me listen and follow his campaign more to see what he's got to offer.

Others can jump off the Brooklyn bridge as far as I'm concerned.

How's NY today bro?

But Sowore helped install a geriatric on the nation, and is now screaming about old people dominating the leadership cadre of the nation

OfoIgbo:


But Sowore helped install a geriatric on the nation, and is now screaming about old people dominating the leadership cadre of the nation

Uhmmm... Bros, out of the 20million+ people that voted for Buhari in 2015, how many millions do you think were youths?

We supported Jonathan. We were screaming then that somebody from one of the minority tribes should become President and why only Yoruba or Hausa or Igbo. Well, Jonathan came and made us billions of $$$ poorer.

Who to blame? Sowore who during the Yaradua sickness and secrecy era got his Sahara Reporters organization solidly behind Jonathan?

Or the Yoruba activists who fought for Jonathan to be made substantive President as dictated by law?

You can keep blaming Sowore for the collective mistake of most Nigerians hoping for a better life under Buhari.

But I'm sure the real reason why you hate Sowore is buried deep in your heart. It's either you know already or you're in denial.

On a side note, one advantage of electing Sowore even if he doesn't really perform to expectation is that our youths will now sit up when they see that they aren't too young to vie for the presidency of this nation. Then, the political class will commit class suicide.

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Let me set a few records straight.
GEJ only did 5 years of presidency. You should not be counting his acting presidency period afterall, he was only bound to follow the dictates of the president.

You mean following the dictates of a President already in a coma or even dead for all we knew? Jonathan has always been timid and sheepish. Most people mistook it for humility. Now we know better. He had real powers as acting President and he could have done a lot with that power. Instead he was acting like someone forced to hold the position.

Buhari has ruled Nigeria for more than 4 and half years (a few months short of 5 years), as you must not forget he committed treason against this nation and illegally/corruptly ruled Nigeria for over one and half years before he was toppled by another dictator.
In fact in a few months time, Buhari would have spent more time ruling Nigeria than GEJ.

May I remind you that it was his stint as the military head of state and his anti corruption stance then that eventually gave Nigerians the mind to look his way in 2015?

Are you very aware that had Jonathan performed better there was no way in hell that Nigerians would have voted for a man they'd already rejected at the polls 3 times?

Go to the middlebelt, bearing in mind that middlebelters supported Buhari's emergence. Ortom was a major supporter of Buhari. Go there now, and ask him whether he prefers GEJ's or PMB's presidency and see the reply you will get.

I think you are mistaking me for a Buhari supporter. I'm not. He's incompetent as far as I'm concerned.

When OBJ was the president, the price of oil was far lower than it is now, yet the economy was fairing far better than it is now. A few months before GEJ left the scene, the price of oil was lower than it is now, so it is not a truism that the price of oil was always above $100 all through his presidency.

You said "a few months before he left.." Yet the man spent 6yrs in power earning for most of that time an unprecedentedly high oil revenue never before earned in the history of Nigeria and he still left the Treasury far less than he met it and you're here to defend him? Smh o.

With regards to general competence in managing the aspirations of the populace, GEJ was far better than PMB. Go and check the price of a bag or rice and compare with the price during GEJ's period.
Go and take a look at the list of people appointed by GEJ to man the security structure of the nation, and you will see every zone represented. Compare this with PMB's security chiefs and see NEPOTISM screaming at you.

Interesting that you should mention security as part of the performance of Jonathan. A period when the Nigerian Army was doing "tactical retreat" across Cameroonian border. Wasn't that the time Nigeria lost 7 local government areas to Boko Haram?


Lol. Even a British newspaper referred to him as an ineffectual buffoon. Maybe you need to look up the meaning of buffoon. You are talking of the cost of a bag of rice. Is it that you don't understand that if you remove money from a till, there will be less or were you expecting the economy to still be bouyant after the massive looting of the economy by "GEJ and the 40 thieves"?


If indeed Jonathan and Okonjo did well, the economy that was built for 5years(according to you) should still withstand any onslaught for at least a year even if all Buhari did as soon as he got there was to loot and pilfer and steal.



Hardly had this man got in when the country slipped into recession. Shame on Jonathan and his supporters.

Look at the way the lives of middlebelters are being snuffed out, with little or no concern from the presidency. All of a sudden, the president can no longer sack an IGP who clearly disobeyed his order to relocate to Benue, and known Miyetti Allah operatives who have made homicidal statements, allowed to exist in normal society.
Just yesterday, I gave an Idoma guy that works in our company some money to send to his mother and young siblings, who now spend most nights in the bush, as they fear the marauding herdsmen who attack randomly.

Of course I don't support Buhari and the number 1 reason is his shielding of his Fulani brothers.

For that reason alone he should have been impeached.

Let's not even look at the corruption angle, as PMB's government has proven itself to be a topnotch master in the art, starting from Baru's NNPC, to pythons swallowing money, to the SGF saga and Maina brouhaha e.t.c.

Absolutely I agree. There's also corruption in this government and this makes me think Buhari has become a lame duck in his administration.

The funny thing being that this gross incompetence, nepotism, islamic expansionist/fulani occupation tendencies were predicted way before PMB was elected, but your wise gods, Sowore inclusive, convinced the other unintelligent zombies that PMB was now a born-again democrat.

Great HINDSIGHT bro.

With the selections that I made with regards to the 2019 presidential choice, I prefer every single one of them far above Sowore, as I know they are much more likely to appreciate the usefulness of the 1963 constitution in the nation's current political development trajectory. Let me even add Saraki to that list also

You guys keep making the same mistake. I keep telling folks from your side of your country that the enemy of your enemy isn't necessarily your friend.

All Fayose has done is to shout Buhari up and down and distribute foodstuff to SOME people in Ekiti, but here you are praising him.

Obasanjo said of FFK, give him food and he will dance for you. That is the person you want in the seat of power.

Okonjo was finance minister under Obasanjo and did well. Fast forward to 3 years later and you see her supervising the worst looting of public resources this country has ever gone through since Independence. And you're propping her up as a potential for presidency. Lol.

You now mentioned Saraki. SMH for you. I will feel tainted and dirty if I even type his name one more time on my phone. I'll leave you to dig about him starting from his career as governor of Kwara state.

That you'll prefer him to Sowore shows that your animosity towards Sowore is no longer political but personal.

I hope you stop being in self denial.

5thElement:


Tor, bami bi won o.

When we are supposed to band together and kick out these aged brains from governance, we youths are busy engaging in ethnic warfare online.

human nature to form into groups since tower of babylon ish
but at least let the tribal competition be constructive
mine is bigger than yours not yours is smaller than mine

Of course all these old men are in cult. That one na sure thing. You think na ordinary eye carry Obasanjo come Ibadan come prostrate for a local thug like Adedibu when Obasanjo was still president ni?

na wa o so pesin no go fit join dem be dat
na to form seperate party ko

These politicians eat human flesh (confirmed o) whenever they meet at night.

I know a caterer who witnessed this because she got the contract to cook for their night meeting.

shieeeee

She's a nervous wreck till today. She's stopped catering.

who wudn't

The little I know about Sowore will make me listen and follow his campaign more to see what he's got to offer.

he fall my hand wen he say him go pay 100k minimum wage

Others can jump off the Brooklyn bridge as far as I'm concerned.

ah make dem no jump o
d more d merrier

How's NY today bro?

cold br'er cold

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human nature to form into groups since tower of babylon ish
but at least let the tribal competition be constructive
mine is bigger than yours not yours is smaller than mine

The competition on Nairaland is destructive sh1t.

na wa o so pesin no go fit join dem be dat
na to form seperate party ko

Unless you fit chop human delicacy, my brother, na to form another party o.

he fall my hand wen he say him go pay 100k minimum wage

I wish we could have a well organised and widely broadcast debate for all aspirants where we could question them and watch as they respond.

ah make dem no jump o
d more d merrier

cold br'er cold

Cool.

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human nature to form into groups since tower of babylon ish
but at least let the tribal competition be constructive
mine is bigger than yours not yours is smaller than mine

The competition on Nairaland is destructive sh1t.

this is not competition it is noisemaking
all keyboard warriors
doesn't affect anything

na wa o so pesin no go fit join dem be dat
na to form seperate party ko

Unless you fit chop human delicacy, my brother, na to form another party o.

chei das harder work than joining readymade party as sleeper agent

he fall my hand wen he say him go pay 100k minimum wage

I wish we could have a well organised and widely broadcast debate for all aspirants where we could question them and watch as they respond.

na small small
at least he and fela are showing its not rocket science

ah make dem no jump o
d more d merrier

cheesy

no seriously
the more new contestantsthe better as they will ginger each other and finally the will agllomerate like tinubu did with buhari
you know say royal rumble,na to fist comot yokozuna,undertaker,bam bam bigelow dem first bfor facing each other
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cold br'er cold

Cool.

Sowore.
Behave.

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You mean following the dictates of a President already in a coma or even dead for all we knew? Jonathan has always been timid and sheepish. Most people mistook it for humility. Now we know better. He had real powers as acting President and he could have done a lot with that power. Instead he was acting like someone forced to hold the position.

Well, I hope you still remember the shenanigans by one Aandoaka, who was the Attorney General or thereabout appointed by Yaradua. Didn't you notice that when Jonathan was just the acting president, GEJ couldn't fire him, but once UMYA was declared dead, Aandoaka got fired.
This episode alone proves that an acting president still has a bit of a psychological hurdle to scale through, if he wants to act as a substantive president.
Add this to the fact that the UMYA family and his close cronies made sure GEJ couldn't see the president physically to ascertain the true state of things, so I cannot blame him for acting "sheepishly" when he was the acting president

Buhari has ruled Nigeria for more than 4 and half years (a few months short of 5 years), as you must not forget he committed treason against this nation and illegally/corruptly ruled Nigeria for over one and half years before he was toppled by another dictator.
In fact in a few months time, Buhari would have spent more time ruling Nigeria than GEJ.

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May I remind you that it was his stint as the military head of state and his anti corruption stance then that eventually gave Nigerians the mind to look his way in 2015?

Are you very aware that had Jonathan performed better there was no way in hell that Nigerians would have voted for a man they'd already rejected at the polls 3 times?

There we go again, reminiscing over a non-existent record. Didn't it occur to you that his stint in 1984 was one of the main reasons, people like me knew he would make an awful president?
Why is it that supposed intelligent people like Sowore fell for such a scam, when sound minds clearly saw the danger, and accurately predicted the nature of the danger, as I have mentioned severally in this chain? And he wants to be the president, without being a good judge of character, or allowing good judges of character to guide him in these decisions.

I don't know how old you were back then. I was a small boy, but even then I knew great evil had taken over the land. I was never taken in by the huge sentences that were being passed down to known politicians. Once we got to know that Shagari who was the executive president was under a mere house arrest, while his vice, who even became poorer in government and had no executive powers, was locked away in Kirikiri, even as a small boy, my sense of justice was assaulted by that simple act. Sowore couldn't see these things. Today we talk of SAINT LOOTERS, which mirrors closely, what I have always known of Buhari, and I have never met him.

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Interesting that you should mention security as part of the performance of Jonathan. A period when the Nigerian Army was doing "tactical retreat" across Cameroonian border. Wasn't that the time Nigeria lost 7 local government areas to Boko Haram?

So Bokoharam occupied 7 (let me even increase it to 10) lgas during GEJ's period. Well Fulani herdsmen are causing havoc in many STATES of the federation. Each state has very many lgas, so go figure. So I still stand by my opinion that security-wise, we are effed both in terms of professionalism/effectiveness and geopolitical representation. Lest I forget, bokoharam is still causing havoc in Nigeria, three years on.

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Lol. Even a British newspaper referred to him as an ineffectual buffoon. Maybe you need to look up the meaning of buffoon. You are talking of the cost of a bag of rice. Is it that you don't understand that if you remove money from a till, there will be less or were you expecting the economy to still be bouyant after the massive looting of the economy by "GEJ and the 40 thieves"?

If indeed Jonathan and Okonjo did well, the economy that was built for 5years(according to you) should still withstand any onslaught for at least a year even if all Buhari did as soon as he got there was to loot and pilfer and steal.



Hardly had this man got in when the country slipped into recession. Shame on Jonathan and his supporters.

So a British paper called him an ineffectual buffoon, and I called PMB a PAEDOPHILIC DULLARD. I have even created one for Sowore, which I will launch soon
Now, getting back on your till analogy. Why is it that once PMB came in, that was when the economy collapsed and our currency value collapsed along with it? Why didn't it happen in GEJ's second year in government? Why didn't it happen anytime within the 16 year rule of PDP? But immediately PMB came in, all hell broke loose.
The simple truth was that PMB came in and didn't appoint ministers to run the affairs of the nature. He left the nation's economy on autopilot and even undermined the economy by making public statements that tended to raise concerns with foreign investors, which in turn, led to huge capital flight and foreign exchange depletion.
I do not believe you are still playing the Buhari card of always blaming GEJ for his failures, 3 years down the line.