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OLAADEGBU:
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Let's see how science proves there has to be a God as said in Genesis 1:1.

Scientific Evidence That Demands A Creator God.

There are only three possibilities from where the universe can come from.  By way of the elimination we will arrive at our destination. 

1). The universe created itself;
2). The universe has always existed, and
3). The universe was created.

1. The universe created itself:  

Can something create itself?  Can nothing create something?  The answer to these is an absolute No.  We all know that something cannot create itself and nothing can't create something.  From Latin we have the phrase "ex nihilo, nihil fit" meaning "from nothing, nothing comes."  It also violates the law of cause and effect, that says for every effect there must be a cause.  The effect can't be greater than the cause and nothing cannot be greater than something.  Therefore, based on the laws of science and logic, the universe couldn't have created itself.  That leaves us with options 2 and 3.

2. The univese has always existed:  

Lets go to the 2nd law of thermodynamics that basically teaches that "the whole universe is losing usable energy for doing usable work."  This means that the usable energy in this universe is wearing down.  The universe as a whole is losing energy.  In other words, molecules as a whole are slowing down.

Therefore, if this universe was eternal we will be in what is called an "virtual heat death."  This means that there will be virtually no molecular movement.  Everything would have lost its available heat energy for doing work.  Therefore, the universe cannot be eternal, it must have had a beginning.  The theory that the universe has always existed or is eternal has to be false based on the law of science and logic, another speculation gone with the air.  This leaves us with only one possibility based on science.  Which is that:

3. The universe was created:  

"In the Beginning God created the heaven and the earth." -- Genesis 1:1

Science confirms the Bible.  QED Simples. [/s]

TOSIN116:
bible supports rape? never heard of it

well you will never know somethings till you die!

sKeetz:
The following passage shows that slaves are clearly property to be bought and sold like livestock.

However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)

Okay this verse states that they aren't disallowed from buying bondsmen/maids, and they are an inheritance and that Fellow Israelites shouldn't be taken as maids...

Well I have a question if you are incapable of performing some jobs by yourself wouldn't you hire help, it's just like the employer-employee relationship we have today.
And considering that the Israelites were farmers and herdsmen wouldn't they need help. And need I remind you that the Israelites where taken captive and subjected to such treatment.

If you buy a Hebrew slave, he is to serve for only six years. Set him free in the seventh year, and he will owe you nothing for his freedom. If he was single when he became your slave and then married afterward, only he will go free in the seventh year. But if he was married before he became a slave, then his wife will be freed with him. If his master gave him a wife while he was a slave, and they had sons or daughters, then the man will be free in the seventh year, but his wife and children will still belong to his master. But the slave may plainly declare, ‘I love my master, my wife, and my children. I would rather not go free.’ If he does this, his master must present him before God. Then his master must take him to the door and publicly pierce his ear with an awl. After that, the slave will belong to his master forever. (Exodus 21:2-6 NLT)

This here portrays choice.

Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. (Ephesians 6:5 NLT)



Christians who are slaves should give their masters full respect so that the name of God and his teaching will not be shamed. If your master is a Christian, that is no excuse for being disrespectful. You should work all the harder because you are helping another believer by your efforts. Teach these truths, Timothy, and encourage everyone to obey them. (1 Timothy 6:1-2 NLT)

This verse is for slaves as you said but have you thought that it might mean domestic help? as the KJV puts it as servant, which is a domestic staff hired for cooking and cleaning (Merriam Webster)

You seem to have forgotten the story if Philemon and onesimous, if you haven't read it please endeavour to.

This bible verses are just for slavery alone. There are more sickening verses which support other heinous crimes against humanity.


Please I'd like to have more.

sKeetz:
OMG !!

You are seriously equating slavery to employer/employee relationship. What wont I hear from you apologist.

So what about the verse it says that they can beat their slaves ? And if the slaves die after two days, they are absolved from any wrong doing. Has you employer ever beaten you up cause you failed to do a tax.

i honestly hope you are a joking.

hadow:
please give me the verse

DeadRat:
hahahaha... some people don mad sha

obisco4u:
His design of the world is flawed thats why sin was able to come in. If it was perfect then sin would not have entered.

sKeetz:
TRASH!

OLAADEGBU:
It's now your turn to prove that there is God.

sKeetz:
Clearly you don't even know anything about your own bible, same book you are defending blindly.

I'm done with this conversation. Have a goodnight.

1stSonOfLucifer:
How can I achieve this? Or is it that am not doing it rightly because the last time I tried it, I realized i was having relationship with myself and not any god.


God good? Old testament god or the new testament god?

You mean the same old testament where he killed and afflicted the Egyptians? The same old testament where in hardened the heart of Pharoah and still punished him for something he (ie Pharaoh) wasn't in control of?

You mean the old testament where God roasted babies?

Are these the relationships and good deeds of a god you speak of?


Ohh. You mean the new testament god where God masterminded everything by using Judas to betray jesus so as to fulfil his prophecy?

À god of the new testament that says "you either serve him or perish in hell?"


With the above lists, im inclined to believe your god ain't evil.

OLAADEGBU:
Do you believe those events in the Bible really occurred?

sKeetz:
I want to believe that you are honestly seeking for the truth.

here's a link, read through it.

www.evilbible.com/evil-bible-home-page/rape-in-the-bible/

sKeetz:
The following passage shows that slaves are clearly property to be bought and sold like livestock.

However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)

If you buy a Hebrew slave, he is to serve for only six years. Set him free in the seventh year, and he will owe you nothing for his freedom. If he was single when he became your slave and then married afterward, only he will go free in the seventh year. But if he was married before he became a slave, then his wife will be freed with him. If his master gave him a wife while he was a slave, and they had sons or daughters, then the man will be free in the seventh year, but his wife and children will still belong to his master. But the slave may plainly declare, ‘I love my master, my wife, and my children. I would rather not go free.’ If he does this, his master must present him before God. Then his master must take him to the door and publicly pierce his ear with an awl. After that, the slave will belong to his master forever. (Exodus 21:2-6 NLT)

Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. (Ephesians 6:5 NLT)

Christians who are slaves should give their masters full respect so that the name of God and his teaching will not be shamed. If your master is a Christian, that is no excuse for being disrespectful. You should work all the harder because you are helping another believer by your efforts. Teach these truths, Timothy, and encourage everyone to obey them. (1 Timothy 6:1-2 NLT)

This bible verses are just for slavery alone. There are more sickening verses which support other heinous crimes against humanity.

1stSonOfLucifer:
You are free to tell me if they actually do, with convincing evidence(s)

DeadRat:
You Are A Clown, you Proved Nothing...


Believing In God Causes No Hurt. I'd rather Believe In God And Die To Find Out There is None Than Not Believe in God And Die To Find Out There Is God...



Peace Out Nigga

OLAADEGBU:
You have not answered my question.

1stSonOfLucifer:
You're telling or not?

OLAADEGBU:
I will tell you what I know when you answer my question. Do you really believe those bible stories really occurred?

1stSonOfLucifer:
I don't know

1stSonOfLucifer:
I don't know

OLAADEGBU:
Let's see how science proves there has to be a God as said in Genesis 1:1.

Scientific Evidence That Demands A Creator God.

There are only three possibilities from where the universe can come from.  By way of the elimination we will arrive at our destination. 

1). The universe created itself;
2). The universe has always existed, and
3). The universe was created.

1. The universe created itself:  

Can something create itself?  Can nothing create something?  The answer to these is an absolute No.  We all know that something cannot create itself and nothing can't create something.  From Latin we have the phrase "ex nihilo, nihil fit" meaning "from nothing, nothing comes."  It also violates the law of cause and effect, that says for every effect there must be a cause.  The effect can't be greater than the cause and nothing cannot be greater than something.  Therefore, based on the laws of science and logic, the universe couldn't have created itself.  That leaves us with options 2 and 3.

2. The univese has always existed:  

Lets go to the 2nd law of thermodynamics that basically teaches that "the whole universe is losing usable energy for doing usable work."  This means that the usable energy in this universe is wearing down.  The universe as a whole is losing energy.  In other words, molecules as a whole are slowing down.

Therefore, if this universe was eternal we will be in what is called an "virtual heat death."  This means that there will be virtually no molecular movement.  Everything would have lost its available heat energy for doing work.  Therefore, the universe cannot be eternal, it must have had a beginning.  The theory that the universe has always existed or is eternal has to be false based on the law of science and logic, another speculation gone with the air.  This leaves us with only one possibility based on science.  Which is that:

3. The universe was created:  

"In the Beginning God created the heaven and the earth." -- Genesis 1:1

Science confirms the Bible.  QED Simples.

princy80:
what is the meaning of 'GOD'?

aaronson:
God can not exist because he is an ominibenevolent figure and we mortals are fallible.

Now here is the logical proof.

Say I have a pound of salt and I tell you to find sugar, where will the sugar come from?

OLAADEGBU:
Let's see how science proves there has to be a God as said in Genesis 1:1.

Scientific Evidence That Demands A Creator God.

There are only three possibilities from where the universe can come from.  By way of the elimination we will arrive at our destination. 

1). The universe created itself;
2). The universe has always existed, and
3). The universe was created.

1. The universe created itself:  

Can something create itself?  Can nothing create something?  The answer to these is an absolute No.  We all know that something cannot create itself and nothing can't create something.  From Latin we have the phrase "ex nihilo, nihil fit" meaning "from nothing, nothing comes."  It also violates the law of cause and effect, that says for every effect there must be a cause.  The effect can't be greater than the cause and nothing cannot be greater than something.  Therefore, based on the laws of science and logic, the universe couldn't have created itself.  That leaves us with options 2 and 3.

2. The univese has always existed:  

Lets go to the 2nd law of thermodynamics that basically teaches that "the whole universe is losing usable energy for doing usable work."  This means that the usable energy in this universe is wearing down.  The universe as a whole is losing energy.  In other words, molecules as a whole are slowing down.

Therefore, if this universe was eternal we will be in what is called an "virtual heat death."  This means that there will be virtually no molecular movement.  Everything would have lost its available heat energy for doing work.  Therefore, the universe cannot be eternal, it must have had a beginning.  The theory that the universe has always existed or is eternal has to be false based on the law of science and logic, another speculation gone with the air.  This leaves us with only one possibility based on science.  Which is that:

3. The universe was created:  

"In the Beginning God created the heaven and the earth." -- Genesis 1:1

Science confirms the Bible.  QED Simples.

TOSIN116:
GOD IS PERFECT. EVIL = IMPEFECTION

Emusan:
G - Go O - On D - Deep
Any question?