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[b] *Care to know!!!*

Youths are suffering this day because some were never inducted by their parents about religion and science that existed before they were given birth. I got to know this in my late 20's. Dr. Dibua said "Some to the left and some to the right" Christ said, to Ceasar, to God, which they never criticised their belief.

 Saul ate from the food served for the gods, Christ ate from the tax collector (those working for ceasar) meaning they recognised the supernatural existence of some religion (strong belief in a supernatural power) before the church was introduced 2000 years ago they are strong deity that has protected the people (community)  before the church was created. Last 3 yrs when we were travelling along agulu axis in Anambra State a big Crocodile was said to be on the express, cars stopped till the creature went back to the lake. Now have you asked your patents what they observed during their time?

Have you asked them what their forefathers served? Note: I AM NOT ASKING YOU TO GO BACK BUT YOU NEED TO KNOW THE TRADITION (Religion) to help you cope with the modern sciences and religion.

DON'T SAY ITS IT'S THEIR BUSINESS you all share same blood (oath). Tradition 100% is  accepted in we do and with that knowledge it will help you cope with the modern sciences and religion.

Advise: Take a leave, go back home and ask about your tradition, what they do and what you ought to know.

In Dr. Dibua's voice some to the left, some to the right.

Read carefully, discretion is advised!
Pardon my wrong grammars and spellings

Ask me if you are a bit confuse.
Happy Sunday. [/b]

Adeboye is a chronic criminal full stop

Una wey like free airtime. Check the link in my profile. no use big boy miss this offer. It came out yesterday or so

If you check Christianity all over the world you will notice that it's only Nigerian version of Christianity that places so much emphasis on tithe and offering, therefore, this has brought about dichotomy in the house of God between the rich and the poor.

This tithing issue is becoming very annoying... Can't people just go to church with empty pockets and return back home with peace of mind ni?

What kind of country is this for God's sake?

And Adeboye skipped the part in Matt 23:23 where Christ was addressing Pharisees.

Adeboye wants to apply a message to the Pharisees to us.

The same Pharisees Christ had earlier described as a brood of vipers.

Maybe there are Pharisees out there today that still carry out the Jewish law. But I know Matt 23:23 is not for any believer.

Simple and short. You cannot be justified by the works of the Law.

What human beings should understand is that there are deities and there is a supreme Deity that has priests. His priests close to Him definitely hear him and relate with him. When God called people who don't tithe ROBBERS, he wasn't joking. If you rob a bank and get caught, you will be jailed in Kirikiri and you think you will go free when you rob the Almighty??. And if you're not born again, tithe or not, no heaven for you. If you're born again, it's devilish for you not to tithe. Take 9 portions and release just one. If you find it hard, you're not worthy of heaven. Critique me all you can, I've said what I said.

eagleonearth:
What human beings should understand is that there are deities and there is a supreme Deity that has priests. His priests close to Him definitely hear him and relate with him. When God called people who don't tithe ROBBERS, he wasn't joking. If you rob a bank and get caught, you will be jailed in Kirikiri and you think you will go free when you rob the Almighty??. And if you're not born again, tithe or not, no heaven for you. If you're born again, it's devilish for you not to tithe. Take 9 portions and release just one. If you find it hard, you're not worthy of heaven. Critique me all you can, I've said what I said.

What is the bank account number and details of the Almighty who must not be robbed of tithes?
It is devilish to tell lies against God. I hope that you know that

the truth is bitter. in the latter days men shall have itchy ears and shall appoint teachers after their ways.
tithes is dead?

Na today. Adeboye be senior crook, just like our useless dwarf vp

This is not biblical...


My ppl perish 4 lack of knowledge.

As long as am concerned Pastor Adeboye is a thief and a con man.

Culin:
Excuse me sir! Are you the gateman in heaven? I'm a redeemer but this statement issa no no.

D PROBLEM WITH MOST OF DIS NOWADAYS PASTOR IS DAT DEY SPEND MORE TIME PREACHING ABOUT GIVING N RECEIVING, N LESS TIME ON HOLINESS N RIGHTEOUSNESS. IF ONE IS SERVING GOD WITH ALL DER HEART, THEN GIVING WOULDN'T BE A PROBLEM.

God dey sha

Hmmm.... guess tithes not been pouring in as it used to...... got to use fear. Guess next step will be to close non profitable churches.

MrNwaAmaikpe:
[b] *Care to know!!!*

Youths are suffering this day because some were never inducted by their parents about religion and science that existed before they were given birth. I got to know this in my late 20's. Dr. Dibua said "Some to the left and some to the right" Christ said, to Ceasar, to God, which they never criticised their belief.

 Saul ate from the food served for the gods, Christ ate from the tax collector (those working for ceasar) meaning they recognised the supernatural existence of some religion (strong belief in a supernatural power) before the church was introduced 2000 years ago they are strong deity that has protected the people (community)  before the church was created. Last 3 yrs when we were travelling along agulu axis in Anambra State a big Crocodile was said to be on the express, cars stopped till the creature went back to the lake. Now have you asked your patents what they observed during their time?

Have you asked them what their forefathers served? Note: I AM NOT ASKING YOU TO GO BACK BUT YOU NEED TO KNOW THE TRADITION (Religion) to help you cope with the modern sciences and religion.

DON'T SAY ITS IT'S THEIR BUSINESS you all share same blood (oath). Tradition 100% is  accepted in we do and with that knowledge it will help you cope with the modern sciences and religion.

Advise: Take a leave, go back home and ask about your tradition, what they do and what you ought to know.

In Dr. Dibua's voice some to the left, some to the right.

Read carefully, discretion is advised!
Pardon my wrong grammars and spellings

Ask me if you are a bit confuse.y
Happy Sunday. [/b]

Does it mean that the crocodile is not ordinary or will the same thing happen if they encounter it in another state /town, one more thing is true that everyone has his or her personal God ( Chi) apart from God almighty

humblesteve:
For me, it's not a must. You just can't force people to be good or do things they consider irrelevant.


Even in sins, God still blesses his people. Not minding their unrighteousness.

God bless you abundantly, ur the only person that have said something tangible, even in our sinful nature God still blesses us, does that mean that God is wasting his time blessing us even in our unrighteousness God is merciful

The contradictory chapters in the bible; one in support of tithing and the other not in supporting of tithing should tell any thinking person that something is wrong with the bible.

The various books that make up the bible were unrelated books, hastily collected by Rome to write a book now called the bible. They did that as a tool to control people. The bible is the book of MAN. God has nothing to do with the bible or any other so called holy books.

The coupling of the Bible from various unrelated books

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWUMIhwgRAo

Chiedu4Trump:
Tithing is Dead and here is why





In fact believing that things will work because your tithe means;
you are saying to God that the sacrifice Jesus paid is not good enough and you need to add more to it.

And the bible is clear that all our blessings are in Jesus Christ and not our tithes.
Notice it says ALL!
So everything we want Jesus has paid for it, so tithes cannot get it.

Ephesians 1:3
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,
who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ

[b]So the law of tithing does not bring favor.


Now a quick question, did Jesus collect tithes?
The only time it's menitoned in the New Testament is to yab the Pharisees.

Apart for that once, tithes was never mentioned again in the New Testament.

So why do pastors make you put your faith in ur tithes & not Jesus?

Answer is simply, GREED

nwanne ehn, flesh and blood has not revealed this to you

kolawoleibukun:
Adeboye is worse than the Catholic church that he and other Pentecostal churches criticize. This is the same thing that the catholics did back in the days by selling indulgence to people to go to heaven. they said that if you did not buy it, you would not enter heaven. The mumu dem sef way day buy the indulgence dem no ask weda person way day sell am don go the heaven.

Adeboye is a freemason. He is never of God. He uses this humility trick to fool people. Acting like a hungry person does not mean humility. People are so dumb. All these statements na reaction to daddy Freeze attack. the revenue shake small that is why he has to reinforce the tithe and heaven link. No verse in the bible mention tithe and heaven together.

funny enough you will see many fowls with two left yarsh quoting people and attacking them for condemning the evil way day happen for their church. pastors and imam dem day rape small small girls and if you talk na the same people way dem rape their sisters go begin talk dust.

Imam dem too are rogues in their own kind. Dangote is a muslim but him daughter day wed dem carry alcohol full everywhere. nobody fit talk cos money day involved. the best wine full the wedding but they are muslims.

Buhari and lie Mohammed are muslims. but they have been lying like mohammed for generations. all the old muslim in the middle east are power mongers. count all the islamic rulers none wants to let go of power.

the truth be say if muslims see thread like this, dem go rush enter to blaspheme Christians but they have evil agenda. to destabilize Christians and take over. na so dem day sneak like say dem no day sheet but they are full of dead men bones.

all these muslims here are fake muslims. muslims that cannot read the koran in Arabic language. some will tell you that they read it but cannot understand it. they just sing it like a strange song.

Look at all these boko haram killings, no single Imam, let us say the crippled one or the one with bad eye has come out to condemn the killing of innocent women and kids. they lock up like quarantined leprosy day happy. they all have agenda. even the person way day post all these kind topics against Christians follow.

Adeboye fooled gullible Nigerians that he stepped down from his position as GO but people still call him daddy. the new guy what will they call him? Adeboye is still making the laws. the new guy nobody hear him voice. to show you the politics in that occulted church. any church way you see celebrity pastor or daddy run. any church you see pastor face for calendar, billboard, signboard etc na fake. that church has deviated from God.

anywhere you see muslims, never trust him. they cowardly attack from the back.

One of the few intelligent ones on Nairaland

that's his own statement...I wish heaven go open now and we come see and check whether all those wey dey dis pay their tithes while on earth before them die or not

When u read your bible very well, u will see where it is written vividly if u dnt pay your tithe into the store house of God,U r are a robber. And where is the place of robbers nw in our community presently when they are caught they are excluded from the general public and put into prison.
What is God prison? Hell fire.
DONT FOLLOW WHAT ADEBOYE OR FREEZ IS SAYING,FOLLOW YOUR BIBLE AND U WIL KNW WHO IS RIGHT BTW 2 OF THEM..

GOD BLESS U

read malachi 3 : 8 - 13

eagleonearth:
What human beings should understand is that there are deities and there is a supreme Deity that has priests. His priests close to Him definitely hear him and relate with him. When God called people who don't tithe ROBBERS, he wasn't joking. If you rob a bank and get caught, you will be jailed in Kirikiri and you think you will go free when you rob the Almighty??. And if you're not born again, tithe or not, no heaven for you. If you're born again, it's devilish for you not to tithe. Take 9 portions and release just one. If you find it hard, you're not worthy of heaven. Critique me all you can, I've said what I said.

Thank you very much pastor on your strong emphasis on "robbing God" by not paying tithe and hence, considering it as sin.

But permit me to ask, do you honestly lay emphasis on fornication, theft, lying, embezzlement of public funds, malice,hatred, evil thoughts and speech against others etc as sin against God and that people who practice them will not enter heaven or, all you do is to spend 2hours of your sermon talking about tithe and how non payment makes one a sinner and at the end, you simply tell your congregation "if you know you haven't given your life to Christ, come out as l count from 1 to10"?

Or perhaps others don't matter as long as you pay tithe

Chiedu4Trump:
Tithing is Dead and here is why

In the Old Testament, their blessing were tied to their tithes!

Malachi 3:10
Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meaPastor t in mine house, and prove me now herewith,
saith the Lord of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing,
that there shall not be room enough to receive it.

In the New Testament our blessings are all in Jesus Christ.
Notice it says ALL not some but ALL.

Ephesians 1:3
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,
who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:


In the Old Testament, God rebuked the devourer (Devil) when you tithed.


Malachi 3:11 (KJV)
And I will rebuke the devourer for your sakes, and he shall not destroy the fruits of your ground;
neither shall your vine cast her fruit before the time in the field, saith the Lord of hosts.


In the New Testament, Jesus Himself destroys the works of the devil.

1 John 3:8
For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.


The bible say's that the New Testament is better than the Old Testament.
Not only is the New Testament is better than the Old Testament,
Its also based on better promises

Hebrews 8:6
But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant,
which was established upon better promises.

So please why do we want to hold on the Old Testament's tithing when the New Testament's grace is better

Do You expect help from God becos of ur tithes or becos of the faith you have in Jesus.

If you expect God to help you becos of your tithes, you are offending Jesus,and are why..

---

Joshua conquered all because of God's blessings NOT tithes.


Deuteronomy 11:25
There shall no man be able to stand before you: for the Lord your God shall lay the fear of you and the dread of you upon all the land that ye shall tread upon, as he hath said unto you.

Now Our Blessings are in Jesus not Tithes.
Noitce it says ALL not some

Ephesians 1:3
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:


So choose which is better, money or Jesus


LET'S COMPARE WHAT JESUS GETS US TO WHAT TITHES CAN GET

The Law does not make anybody perfect!
Heb 7:19
For the law made nothing perfect!

What makes us perfect before God is the sacrifice Jesus made for us.

Colossians 1:28
Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom;
that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus:

If tithing could get you favor with God or save us, Jesus would not have died.

QUESTION
What do you think carries more weight in heaven?

The Blood Jesus shed for you and I

Matthew 26:28
For this is my blood of the new testament,
which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

OR

The tithes you pay?

Remember that the Silver & Gold already belongs to God.

Haggai 2:8
The silver is mine, and the gold is mine, saith the Lord of hosts.



In fact believing that things will work because your tithe means;
you are saying to God that the sacrifice Jesus paid is not good enough and you need to add more to it.

And the bible is clear that all our blessings are in Jesus Christ and not our tithes.
Notice it says ALL!
So everything we want Jesus has paid for it, so tithes cannot get it.

Ephesians 1:3
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,
who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:

So the law of tithing does not bring favor.


Now a quick question, did Jesus collect tithes?
The only time it's menitoned in the New Testament is to yab the Pharisees.

Apart for that once, tithes was never mentioned again in the New Testament.

So why do pastors make you put your faith in ur tithes & not Jesus?

Answer is simply, GREED

if you're deceiving only yourself, it would be better but here are a crowds of people who doesn't know their left from their right listening and giving you a nod of approval.

You sing "Abraham's blessings are yours" right? Abraham who is the father of the christian faithfuls tithed in the Gen 14 vs 20 and Paul confirmed it to the new testament believers in Hebrew 7vs2. Jesus came to fulfill the law and not to abolish it. This is the reason he told the Pharisees to continue with tithing which is very important and at the same time not to forget good deeds before God and man.

Why are you even looking for excuse not to tithe? Did Abraham not give the tithe to a priest and went his way? Did he wait to know what Melchizedek will do with it? Were there not destitutes, widows and orphans in father Abraham's day. If God gave you life and Oxygen which you don't pay for and ability to make money legitimately, why won't you show appreciation if you're not simply wicked, selfish and devilish?

Culin:
Excuse me sir! Are you the gateman in heaven? I'm a redeemer but this statement issa no no.

You going to hell fire den, dont be deceived

eagleonearth:
What human beings should understand is that there are deities and there is a supreme Deity that has priests. His priests close to Him definitely hear him and relate with him. When God called people who don't tithe ROBBERS, he wasn't joking. If you rob a bank and get caught, you will be jailed in Kirikiri and you think you will go free when you rob the Almighty??. And if you're not born again, tithe or not, no heaven for you. If you're born again, it's devilish for you not to tithe. Take 9 portions and release just one. If you find it hard, you're not worthy of heaven. Critique me all you can, I've said what I said.

It is either you are planning to become an Evangelist/pastor trying to rob us in broad daylight.
The rules are clear "Give what belong to Buhari to Buhari and Give what belongs to God to God"
God only want you to pray and leave in a righteous ways.
It is people like your so called pastors that killed Jesus, Hypocrite is what he called them.
He said my fathers house shall be a house of prayer and not a house of thieves.
When Jesus was crucified, one of the thieves that was crucified along side him said "remember me in your Kingdom", And Jesus said to him, 'Assuredly, I say to you, today you will be with Me in paradise.'”(Luke 23:39-43).
Jesus did not ask or tell him that he must pay his tithe.

prinsam30:
God bless you abundantly, ur the only person that have said something tangible, even in our sinful nature God still blesses us, does that mean that God is wasting his time blessing us even in our unrighteousness God is merciful

Bless you more sir. Our God is true a merciful one, if not, none would be graced enough to enjoy His blessing.


He's always there for us.

Chiedu4Trump:
Tithing is Dead and here is why

In the Old Testament, their blessing were tied to their tithes!

Malachi 3:10
Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meaPastor t in mine house, and prove me now herewith,
saith the Lord of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing,
that there shall not be room enough to receive it.

In the New Testament our blessings are all in Jesus Christ.
Notice it says ALL not some but ALL.

Ephesians 1:3
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,
who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:


In the Old Testament, God rebuked the devourer (Devil) when you tithed.


Malachi 3:11 (KJV)
And I will rebuke the devourer for your sakes, and he shall not destroy the fruits of your ground;
neither shall your vine cast her fruit before the time in the field, saith the Lord of hosts.


In the New Testament, Jesus Himself destroys the works of the devil.

1 John 3:8
For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.


The bible say's that the New Testament is better than the Old Testament.
Not only is the New Testament is better than the Old Testament,
Its also based on better promises

Hebrews 8:6
But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant,
which was established upon better promises.

So please why do we want to hold on the Old Testament's tithing when the New Testament's grace is better

Do You expect help from God becos of ur tithes or becos of the faith you have in Jesus.

If you expect God to help you becos of your tithes, you are offending Jesus,and are why..

---

Joshua conquered all because of God's blessings NOT tithes.


Deuteronomy 11:25
There shall no man be able to stand before you: for the Lord your God shall lay the fear of you and the dread of you upon all the land that ye shall tread upon, as he hath said unto you.

Now Our Blessings are in Jesus not Tithes.
Noitce it says ALL not some

Ephesians 1:3
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:


So choose which is better, money or Jesus


LET'S COMPARE WHAT JESUS GETS US TO WHAT TITHES CAN GET

The Law does not make anybody perfect!
Heb 7:19
For the law made nothing perfect!

What makes us perfect before God is the sacrifice Jesus made for us.

Colossians 1:28
Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom;
that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus:

If tithing could get you favor with God or save us, Jesus would not have died.

QUESTION
What do you think carries more weight in heaven?

The Blood Jesus shed for you and I

Matthew 26:28
For this is my blood of the new testament,
which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

OR

The tithes you pay?

Remember that the Silver & Gold already belongs to God.

Haggai 2:8
The silver is mine, and the gold is mine, saith the Lord of hosts.



In fact believing that things will work because your tithe means;
you are saying to God that the sacrifice Jesus paid is not good enough and you need to add more to it.

And the bible is clear that all our blessings are in Jesus Christ and not our tithes.
Notice it says ALL!
So everything we want Jesus has paid for it, so tithes cannot get it.

Ephesians 1:3
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,
who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:

So the law of tithing does not bring favor.


Now a quick question, did Jesus collect tithes?
The only time it's menitoned in the New Testament is to yab the Pharisees.

Apart for that once, tithes was never mentioned again in the New Testament.

So why do pastors make you put your faith in ur tithes & not Jesus?

Answer is simply, GREED

.




I need to learn more pls, if u have more push it on .thanks

bozzyjoan:
When u read your bible very well, u will see where it is written vividly if u dnt pay your tithe into the store house of God,U r are a robber. And where is the place of robbers nw in our community presently when they are caught they are excluded from the general public and put into prison.
What is God prison? Hell fire.
DONT FOLLOW WHAT ADEBOYE OR FREEZ IS SAYING,FOLLOW YOUR BIBLE AND U WIL KNW WHO IS RIGHT BTW 2 OF THEM..

GOD BLESS U

read malachi 3 : 8 - 13

How much of this emphasis do you lay on other sins? You miss tithe,you have sinned as stated in Malachi that you quoted.and will go to hell. Be honest with yourself,how many of the many instructions of God from Genesis to Malachi have you been honest about?Yes,you have pass mark in tithe. What about others? Maybe we should start from the 10commadments, then we move to the many other instructions in the first five books. Do you now know where you are heading to despite the payment of your tithe and based on your judgement about where non tithe payers are going?

I am amazed by Nigerians version of Christianity?

Seems another private jet is in the offing

buchilino:
D PROBLEM WITH MOST OF DIS NOWADAYS PASTOR IS DAT DEY SPEND MORE TIME PREACHING ABOUT GIVING N RECEIVING, N LESS TIME ON HOLINESS N RIGHTEOUSNESS. IF ONE IS SERVING GOD WITH ALL DER HEART, THEN GIVING WOULDN'T BE A PROBLEM.

Honestly. The emphasis should be on holiness. Don't know why these past few years have been filled with tithe semons.

Emmy1379:
Thank you very much pastor on your strong emphasis on "robbing God" by not paying tithe and hence, considering it as sin.

But permit me to ask, do you honestly lay emphasis on fornication, theft, lying, embezzlement of public funds, malice,hatred, evil thoughts and speech against others etc as sin against God and that people who practice them will not enter heaven or, all you do is to spend 2hours of your sermon talking about tithe and how non payment makes one a sinner and at the end, you simply tell your congregation "if you know you haven't given your life to Christ, come out as l count from 1 to10"?

your last sentence got me giggling. Anyways God and heaven's business is a very solemn one. Go to YouTube and download as many adeboye's sermon series as you can. You will discover that he's a holiness preacher. But true pastoral work covers all aspect of life and Christianity namely: holiness, prosperity, relationship with man and God, marriage etc and this man hints on all. The issue is many Christians are selfish and tightfisted when it comes to giving and that's what prompted him to start warning them so they won't suffer here as Christians and at the end miss heaven.