₦airaland Forum

gidgiddy:
Civilised countries of the world respect the international laws they signed up and if Nigeria is not civilised then those agitating to go are right to do so. Diplomatic severance or not, no country can seize the property of anyone unjustly. If people are expelled, it is but a small price to pay for freedom.

Nna Kedu, are you still on this Biafran wahala? Do the right thing for once na

igbodefendercom:
So Igbos should abandon an internal market of 198 million people? Do you know many industrialized countries whish they had such a large internal market?

The Igbos can set up another market in a twinkle of an eye, all they need is to come together as one, only then will people like you understand why d igbo race lay claim to a Jewish ancestry.

Plenty of us tend to delude ourselves about the one Nigerian contraption, but in all honesty, we know that we are not one Nigeria, before the war, there was widespread killing of Ndi igbo living outside igbo land in unprecedented number's even in Lagos State that is a yoruba state, d igbo man was not spared, it tells of a deep state hatred 4 the igbo man and to what depth other tribes can sink just 2 show there hatred of the igbo man.
So no matter how some of my igbo brothers will put it, d igbo man will never be accepted no matter how hard we try for they fear and envy our God given talent.
Argue with ur ancestors if e pain u but no dat one day d land of the rising sun must rise from the east.

gidgiddy:
Not true. That is like saying that all Nigerians living outside Nigeria can lose their investments and go back to Nigeria. That is not possible because international law protects properties and investments anywhere in the world.

Britain is officially leaving the EU next year but the over one million British citizens living in Europe have not been asked to go anywhere and non of them will lose their investments

You see how well international law protected you from starvation during the civil war. Is your amnesia a cultural thing or I don't get it. You better plan to sell off your properties outside your proposed country as I don't think the will to keep your property safe will be left in Nigerians. Even your Rivers brother did not return your property back after the last misadventure.

You better dot your i's and cross your t's well this time around. I can see you included land across the Niger in your dream land. Prepare to do battle to achieve that dream as other claims will set in. Be more thorough in your planning this time around and you people may well succeed. good luck.

selemempe:
Let me add my voice to my brothers.
1. We need to start a new movement like IPOB and Massob. However this movement will not be called Biafra. It will be called Igbo nationalism movement. It will not include non Igbos. (Not yet anyway)

2. We need to get big Igbo names on board. Ezekwesili, Soludo etc. They need to be the face of the movement.

3. The activities of the movement will include radio propaganda (without insulting anyone), tv propaganda, newspaper (propaganda), blogs and social media.

4. We need to unite Massob, IPoB, Zionist movement and other Biafran agitators to this movement. The united faction leaders need to be given visible roles in the new movement.

5. We need to (through the efforts of the movement leaders) first of all pressure the Ohaneze to pass a motion supporting referandum for Igbos in Nigeria. Then we pressure state houses of assemblies to also pass a motion supporting referandum for Igbos. Then we pressure governors to adopt these motions. Next would be to get members of the national assembly of Igbo origin to introduce a motion in both houses, calling for a referandum for Igbos. (I dont expect the motion to pass in the national assembly)

6. We would then push for the Igbo nation to be recognised within Nigeria as an authonomous region. And For a premeire to be elected for the Igbo nation and recognised by govt, and for the premirer to be the head of an Igbo regional govt. And for the Igbo regional govt be able to manage resouces found in Igboland and pay a percantage to FG And also for matters such as power and energy; local policing; census and statistic collection to be delegated to the premiere and the Igbo regional govt.

7. We would go like this for a long time as an autonomous entity within one Nigeria (like hong kong, qubec or scotland etc), and then finally seek full independence from Nigeria as The Republic of Igboland. We may make certain concessions to Nigeria (for a start). Such as continuing to use the Naira; joining ECOWAS; Signing trade agreements and Maritime agreements with Nigeria; allowing free movements of people across the border and allowing for dual citizenships for Nigerians living in Igboland and vice verser.

8. We would then revisit the Niger Delta region and seek aliance if they are willing.

When we get independence, we should do away with the 5 state structure and remove all sorts of classification. We should take Igbo as one nation...one tribe....one people. No 'he is from Nsuka or from abakaliki' talk.
We would also be a democracy and republic like our fore fathers.
And if the Niger Delta joins us, we should integrate them well into the politics of the nation and then probably change our name to Biafra or any other one.
Dalu nu.

Cc bede2u nonaira3 horsepower101 igbodefendercom hiddenshadow shugavee

See high level delusion, how do you achieve all the above without changing the Federal Constitution?

On one hand you want an igbo nation, on the other hand you want to incorporate some non igbo nation into your dream land. The non igbo nations you want are only those who have oil deposit.
And you think people won't see through your greed and deceit?
If you believe so much in a small and homogeneous entity, the last thing you would consider is adding other cultures that are alien. You simply exposed the main motivation for the Biafra adventure is greed before anything else.

Biafrannuke:
From what i have read many pro zoo fellas still scare us that Biafra is impossible to get. to them i say ask from people who have experience.
when we told people that Jonathan would loose in 2015 they said it was impossible for a sitting president to loose in the zoo but it happened. Nobody believed Trump would win a day to election, not even obama. Also who would have thought that North korea's kim who did nuclear test in October will be open to denuclearization by March. Assad can be overthrown before the end of April, zoo can also break up before 2020. never say never. nothing is impossible especially when international pressure is involved. Al bashir of sudan proved stubborn during Sudan conflict but accepted referendum when ICC and subsequent arrest warrant was used against him.

The fighting in Sudan was sustained for 40 years before referendum was granted. You only fought for two and a half years before surrendering. That's not a sign of a very strong resolve to be independent. Even there is no doubt that north Sudan has a big hand in the conflict in the south. And someone is dependent on international law for protection

gidgiddy:
Note to the mods: This discussion is about independence and self determination which are legitimate and legal rights enshrined under international law espoused under article 1 of the UN charter and article 20(1) of the African charter, which Nigeria is a signatory to and allows any group of people the right to seek independence from the country they belong to. This has nothing to do with secession(before you people start looking for who to ban)

I would have prefared to write this in Igbo but I understand that there are Igbos out there who may not be proficient in Igbo, particularly those born and raised outside Igbo land. Never the less, I will say Igbo bu Igbo! Anam ekene. Onye na nke ya, onye na nke ya. Chukwu dube anyi, n'ofu n'ofu.

ibu onye olu igbo?

DerideGull:
Do you believe Republic of Igbo land or Biafra shall not response to such silly action in kind?

What exactly does Nigeria benefited from SE, that CAN be used to fight back?

horsepower101:
If the Igbos in rivers state decide that they choose to remain in Nigeria, so be it. A hypothetical landlocked Biafra will be far better than the current situation in Nigeria. Besides the South-east as currently drawn on the map still has access to the sea under international laws. So your scare tactics don't move me or those of us that are enlightened.

Don't mind that afonja impersonating to be an Igbo person every reasonable human being knows quite well that Nigeria as it is currently is a monumental failure and can never work any time soon. I don't even know why most yorubas are so scared of the disintegration of this country they have the Atlantic sea shore and other natural resources at their disposal but yet they are even more scared to live without the Igbos than even the northerners.

Nonaira3:
OP biko thank you. Apart from the greedy political saboteurs, we have in that shithole, which Igbo man is against Igbos living Niggeria. I actually had this exact conversation with my father yesterday. During the conversation, One thing my pops mentioned that is very much accurate. Niggeria have been in existence for over 100 years now, other nations make progress after few years of existence even if hindered by a war, example Anogla, Rwanda, etc but Niggeria have yet to show any signs of ever improving. Infact, we started downgrading the second whites left the nation which speaks alot on the underdevelopment of Niggerians and their capacity despite deceiving themselves they are better than other Africans. I personally, I say we have tried Niggeria for two long and what have Igbos benefitted from being in this "country"? Nothing. They repeatedly state, "oh you'll leave this vast market, for small market". What is the use of a vast market that has no future? Shit, our ancestors did not trade with the majority of the tribes in Nigeria and they did not die; likewise, thanks to modern day technology, Igbos have access to the entire world. Whenever I see a person talks about "Nigeria gives you more business customers", I wonder whether that person was born with head straight at all. A good businessman knows that online trading is extremely profitable. For me, I always say if Niggeria is so confident that majority of Igbos want Niggeria, excluding "touts, criminals and unemployed youths." then they will not be afraid of a simple thing as a referendum. A person is afraid of anything simple as such when they know what they tell themselves is straight delusions and they are terrified of the real answer and that's a fact.

In fact, Niggeria is the only nation I've ever seen in my entire life which blames a specific set of people for their problems yet too terrified to allow those "problems" leave their shithole. I wonder why. They stupidly hide under the claim "they taking the SS minorities with them, just go with SE alone" For one, I'm a SS Igbo and I know I rather die the most painful death imaginable than stay in "one Niggeria" if SE leave alone. There is no doubt the rest of Igbos in the SS area think the exact same way; I can't speak for the minorities on the other hand, personally I speak against them being included in Biafra honestly. Anyway even at that, till this very fucking day, I repeatedly wondered in what way, shape or form is asking for a "Referendum to allow the people to choose" imply "taking away by force."? Sometimes I wonder why Niggerians delude themselves as highly educated. The logic of Niggeria explains the reason why schooling in Niggeria is looked as mediocre by everyone including in other African countries. Their illogical sense keeps me in awe most of the times.

Nigerians are obviously receiving expired education that's why they always reason upside down.

Ovamboland:
See high level delusion, how do you achieve all the above without changing the Federal Constitution?

On one hand you want an igbo nation, on the other hand you want to incorporate some non igbo nation into your dream land. The non igbo nations you want are only those who have oil deposit.
And you think people won't see through your greed and deceit?
If you believe so much in a small and homogeneous entity, the last thing you would consider is adding other cultures that are alien. You simply exposed the main motivation for the Biafra adventure is greed before anything else.

lol...dont worry, we Igbos have very little oil. We intend to like every other Nigerian tribe milk the Niger Delta of the oil within one Nigeria...since we know that achieving Biafra now will not be realistic. We would however keep the Biafran dream alive. When oil finishes or becomes obsolete and the Niger Delta region become irrelevant and highly poluted then the Biafra project will intensify.
By that time, the tribes of ND will willingly want to go with us.

Dtribeless:
Brother man (just to avoid saying idiot), did Nigeria break away from the US or the UK? Think, I thought you Biafrans are supposed to be smart. When you break away, it's never cordial. Apparently, you guys are not thinking this through.

mr man you can have properties any where in the world,do you no how my wars american fought wit british,mr man u dont no any thing about politics and diplomacy

selemempe:
lol...dont worry, we Igbos have very little oil. We intend to like every other Nigerian tribe milk the Niger Delta of the oil within one Nigeria...since we know that achieving Biafra now will not be realistic. We would however keep the Biafran dream alive. When oil finishes or becomes obsolete and the Niger Delta region become irrelevant and highly poluted then the Biafra project will intensify.
By that time, the tribes of ND will willingly want to go with us.

You evil Greedy tribe, it will be a cold day in hell before any other ethnic group associates with you

Roger3D:
No I am not. Under that UN statue you Igbos do not qualify to be even called a people let alone claim a right to a separate country of your own. That's the reason why the whole world ignores your agitation, its because they deny it

Stupidity is when you "consciously" decide to make a fool of yourself

theDEVILisHERE:
Stupidity is when you "consciously" decide to make a fool of yourself

Nice to know you're a fool

Roger3D:
Nice to know you're a fool

Saying I'm a Fool does not make me one

You're making a Fool of yourself
Me saying it is just confirming what u already know in ur heart
Remember u can not decieve urself

theDEVILisHERE:
Saying I'm a Fool does not make me one
You're making a Fool of yourself Me saying it is just confirming what u already know in ur heart Remember u can not decieve urself

Okay Mr Devil

theDEVILisHERE:
Saying I'm a Fool does not make me one
You're making a Fool of yourself Me saying it is just confirming what u already know in ur heart Remember u can not decieve urself

Okay Mr Devil

Roger3D:
You evil Greedy tribe, it will be a cold day in hell before any other ethnic group associates with you

of course we are greedy. Its a good thing that greed is what ppl associate with us....not unnessesary violence, abject poverty and illiteracy like the north... nor diabolic, fetish, dirty, two-faced and cowardly like the west.

America is also accused often of greed...we are in good company...wat else will u say?

selemempe:
of course we are greedy. Its a good thing that greed is what ppl associate with us....not unnessesary violence, abject poverty and illiteracy like the north... nor diabolic, fetish, dirty, two-faced and cowardly like the west.

America is also accused often of greed...we are in good company...wat else will u say?

We will continue to put you in your place

Roger3D:
We will continue to put you in your place

For now. For how long...I cannot say. Soon the Niger Delta region will wake up....the middle belt also. Soon yoruba and hausa will be put in their place...so that they can see how it feels... i blame mumu gej tho

Dtribeless:
Biafrans don't have to wait for that; they can just start moving to Biafra and save us all the pain. I don't know why this is so difficult. In the referendum, who will vote? All Nigerians? Or Igbos only? This issue is not difficult at all: Igbos, by their actions, don't want Biafra; if they do, they can always move, but no, they moving more into other tribe's community and shouting Biafra. Abegi!!

Democracy allows freedom of movement. Referendum or no referendum, vote with your feet as a first step. Is that what you are telling them?

Food for thought

Gambia is just 1.9 million people

Botswana Is just 2 million people

Namibia is just 2.5 million people

And the 45 million strong Igbo nation is in Nigeria asking for restructuring, fairness, justice and equity? Why? Because the unity of Nigeria is set in iron? How?

The Igbos are bigger and far more deserving than that

gidgiddy:
Food for thought

Gambia is just 1.9 million people

Botswana Is just 2 million people

Namibia is just 2.5 million people

And the 45 million strong Igbo nation is in Nigeria asking for restructuring, fairness, justice and equity? Why? Because the unity of Nigeria is set in iron? How?

The Igbos are bigger and far more deserving than that

I have this strong feeling that if a truthful and transparent census is done in Nigeria, It will show that igbos are the most populated.

In other west African countries, the more north you go, the lesser the population but in Nigeria, the more north you go the higher the population.

igbodefendercom:
How will you convince Wike's Rivers Igbos to join you? Wike has said Rivers Igbos are committed to Nigeria.

Without access to the sea from Rivers Igbo ports like Port Harcourt (Igwe Ocha, and Igwe Ngaa) an independent Igbo country might be at the mercy of vengeful Nigerians, who will slap very high export duties on products coming from Alaigbo, even ones meant for export in other countries passing through Nigerian seaports.

Thus, no matter how good those products may be (and they would be very good because Igbos are the best, world class!) someone sitting in Lagos Customs Office can price it out of the market.

And unlike now that Igbos can use Igbo blogs to put pressure and get the decision reversed as citizens, then the Igbos would be called foreigners that have no citizens rights in Nigeria. Any Igbo that tries to protest would likely be deported to his country and his property gladly siezed. That is why we ask you too give Nigeria another chance.

With good governance from our state governors, Igbo Presidency, etc., things will get much better.

Have u heard of Suez canal or panama canal,they where built on dry land and support huge cargo ships.we have azumini river at ndoki axis that has access to the Atlantic ocean.

julaion:
mr man you can have properties any where in the world,do you no how my wars american fought wit british,mr man u dont no any thing about politics and diplomacy

You can't have properties in countries where they don't want you.

ANOWEDGREAT:
Nigerians are obviously receiving expired education that's why they always reason upside down.

They are naturally incompetent. No wonder their current president is a complete Dullard without any form of education. Are we shocked how backwards that country is? Idk about anymore else but I'm not.

Dtribeless:
You can't have properties in countries where they don't want you.

Wonder why you Niggerians have properties in Britain. Last I checked the citizens do not like/want una. Last I checked aren't they racist towards you lots over there likewise the government stays arresting and deporting una like crazy.

Honestly you Niggerians illogical sense keeps me in awe majority of the time.

gidgiddy:
It doesn't matter if it's Africa or not, as long as Nigeria has signed up to the relevant international laws that protect lives, properties and investments then it must abide by them.

You need to stop speaking on the behalf of any Igbo with property outside of igbo land. The said person brought it on him or herself. If he or she didn't learn from their history, why would the rest of us suffer for their stupidity. It's because of those fools is what the rest of this one Niggeria by force imbeciles try to use to force the remainder of Igbos to continue sharing this worthless nation with them with. Why should be continue fighting for those too stupid to learn from their past. If they take their property, oh well that should be on the idiot who stupidly built his property on a violatile area.

He'll look at the lots you are arguing with. This mofos are extremely Savage and backwards to a T. They themselves even said it. Even mistakenly associating their Savage, animalistic thinking as that of "Africa" instead of Niggerians ONLY.(a huge insult to the African populace). Stop trying to be diplomatic to a bunch of uncivilized Neanderthals. The day you learn that Niggerians are not as civilized as other Africans and the rest of the world, the better for you.

Nonaira3:
Wonder why you Niggerians have properties in Britain. Last I checked the citizens do not like/want una. Last I checked aren't they racist towards you lots over there likewise the government stays arresting and deporting una like crazy.

Honestly you Nigerians illogical sense keeps me in awe majority of the time.

You guys, Biafrans, are clowns; that's why Kanu could fool so many of you. Again, after breaking away from the Nigerian state, the Nigerian state would let you eat your cake and have it? You guys are comedians. You guys keep harping on about Great Britain, America, how about South Sudan? Which is closer to what you describe. Again, your plans are not well thought out. You guys want an option: so you can be Biafran when it suits you, and come over to Nigeria to do business? You are kidding; you'll be all kicked out.

All in all, I have refrained from insulting you IPOB youths, but damn are you guys dumb. You are comparing the break up of Nigeria to referendum in Europe – goodluck. Let me tell you the most likely scenario: Right after the referendum result is announced and Igbos vote to go, there will be massive violence against Igbos all over New Nigeria, and vice-versa towards Nigerians in Biafra. Bank accounts will also be frozen, mean Biafras need there own currency (to be exchanged for what?). There will be a painful mass Exodus. You guys better be careful what you wish for. Again, "Biafrans" have the most to lose from a broken Nigeria; they should be pushing one Nigeria the most as it benefits them, but no, they want to be president. With this kind of non-stop crap talk by IPOB youths, if Jesus Christ were to come to Nigeria and be Igbo, he would lose elections non-stop.

Dtribeless:
All in all, I have refrained from insulting you IPOB youths, but damn are you guys dumb. You are comparing the break up of Nigeria to referendum in Europe – goodluck. Let me tell you the most likely scenario: Right after the referendum result is announced and Igbos vote to go, there will be massive violence against Igbos all over New Nigeria, and vice-versa towards Nigerians in Biafra. Bank accounts will also be frozen, mean Biafras need there own currency (to be exchanged for what?). There will be a painful mass Exodus. You guys better be careful what you wish for. Again, "Biafrans" have the most to lose from a broken Nigeria; they should be pushing one Nigeria the most as it benefits them, but no, they want to be president. With this kind of non-stop crap talk by IPOB youths, if Jesus Christ were to come to Nigeria and be Igbo, he would lose elections non-stop.

SHUTUP which one nigeria favous igbo even if mohammed (shit be upon him) rules nigeria he will fail