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WhoBeThisMan:
The. Bible is very direct and interpretes himself. Stop listening to daddy freeze, read for yourself. Imagine he saying the matter stones in that scripture means human. Turning humans to bread?
Jesus was hungry after 40 days and 40 nights fasting, obviously what he needed was food and the devil came and said if you are the son of God, turn these stones to bread.

Watch His reply, HE said: man shall not live by bread alone but by every word that comes out of the mouth of the Father.".

What is daddy freezer saying? How does. This relate to humans being bread?

Pls guys be careful listening to this man
. He knows not the scripture. Read the Bible for your self.

Chinapepe:
In all these rants of this man, God is merciful. At the end of it all, he might receive mercy from God, because one thing is very certain, the highly referred man of God, Daddy G.O. won't place curse on him, rather he would be praying for him(d hallmark of Christianity). But here lies the problem, many would've been led astray through this self-styled Freeze who interprets scripture carnally. Brethren, pls bear this at the back of ur mind, the whole tirade from Freeze & his ilks is a confirmation of the signs of the end time. Where is the place of the holy spirit in the 'tithe' arguments? Is Daddy Freeze sure of his own salvation? I'm not judging in anyway, but d question becomes pertinent in d face of his endless, but baseless attack against Pastor Adeboye, who has proven overtime to be an enigmatic vessel, expanding d kingdom of God here on earth. The discernible minds(spiritually) will understand better. May the Lord have mercy!

SageTravels:
Chief Judge Do Not Judge

Matthew 7:1-2
1 Do not judge, or you will be judged. 2 For with the same judgment you pronounce, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.


Luke 6:37
Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven.


Luke 6:41
Why do you look at the speck in your brother's eye, but fail to notice the beam in your own eye?


John 8:7
When they continued to question Him, He straightened up and said to them, "Let him who is without sin among you be the first to cast a stone at her."


Romans 2:1
You therefore have no excuse, you who pass judgment on another. For on whatever grounds you judge the other, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things.


Romans 14:10
Why, then, do you judge your brother? Or why do you belittle your brother? For we will all stand before God's judgment seat.


Romans 14:13
Therefore let us stop judging one another. Instead, make up your mind not to put any stumbling block or obstacle in your brother's way.


1 Corinthians 4:5
Therefore judge nothing before the proper time; wait until the Lord comes. He will bring to light what is hidden in darkness and will expose the motives of men's hearts. At that time each will receive his praise from God.


James 4:11
Brothers, do not slander one another. Anyone who speaks against his brother or judges him speaks against the Law and judges it. And if you judge the Law, you are not a practitioner of the Law, but a judge of it.

hibeekay007:
you think pst Adeboye sends him? I'm sure Baba is not even reasoning his case at all, like at all at all!

topbollz:
It is not compulsory you pay tithe. Neither is it compulsory to worship God. It is also not compulsory you give. But if you are a Christian how are you advancing the kingdom of God. How!

Abraham was neither forced to pay tithe but he was wise in his deeds. He would not plant and go again to dig the ground to see if the seed his growing. He never gave tithe to go and ask what Melchizedek did with it. He gave and focused on God whom he served who is a rewarder of those that diligently seek him.

Your tithe is not what made Adeboye rich. Those that are giving to appreciate him know why and would not question him, neither would they stop.


It should not be your headache in anyway what he tells his children. Fast for 100 days and those that did saw the results those that never did saw that too.

Its only those that have the understanding of Give and itvwill come back to you good measure pressed down shakened together and running over that do. Tithe is 10% and yet you are into analysis.

If God has revealed to you not to pay tithe who am I to stop you are any other.

Did Malachi 3:1-15 drop from Space of course not. With emphasis on 14 & 15 one needs to be more careful.

Come to think of it if you are asked to follow the Acts of the Apostles you would have brought down the heavens.

The time of Grace means you should sell all and give to the men of God. Acts 4:32-37 that is conscience. You can't afford to see any poor. If we are to follow it accordingly or literally. A lot don't pay yet the church is Marching on. A lot pay or give because they saw the respect people give to those that gave. Their reward there too in Acts 5:1-11

My Opinion is simple 10% is too small for me to be ranting about for what God has done for me and my family. God has used Pastor Adeboye to grow his kingdom from about 70 churches to thousands. Why won't he be blessed you think it a joke to pray and fast and lead just 5 people, something must be working for him and that I convet too. I trust Him for more and by his grace he will do above every thing I ask for. Nothing comes for nothing you have to pay a price. Salvation is free but yet the kingdom of God suffereth violence and only the violent take it by force. I see tithe as tapping into Gods greatness as in the Hebrews 7 you gave verse 4. Then read 4-7. If Christ is a priest according to order of Melchizedek verse 17 isn't it wise I emulate Abraham and give him my 10th. So that I can get blessed according to verse 6&7. Bro pay your tithe.

Do your best and let God see your service is in spirit and in truth. You can also read 1 Corinth. 9:8-15.

The Bible is an inspiration and that inspiration has not stopped reason why you might get confused if you do it without Gods guidance. The Pharisees that read it literally were chastised by Jesus.

hopefulLandlord:
i asked myself why i believe and i came up with the answers

1. Indoctrination

2. Fear

3. Ignorance

4. wanting to fit in as everyone around me was a theist
Make no mistake, i was the first atheist i knew and nobody thought me anything, i only later got to know there were others like me and many others before me

ajbabs:
It is not must thing. Search the scripture my sister. Work of God must continue to grow. Church of Christ can encourage people to give unto the Lord and needy bountifully. Pastors should not preach half truth to congregation by cajoling or scare them into what Lord is not compulsory for us.

Note: God is not in support of cathedrals or mega churches that we are pursing today, God is interested in the number of souls saved to His kingdom.

SageTravels:
Chief Judge Do Not Judge

Matthew 7:1-2
1 Do not judge, or you will be judged. 2 For with the same judgment you pronounce, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.


Luke 6:37
Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven.


Luke 6:41
Why do you look at the speck in your brother's eye, but fail to notice the beam in your own eye?


John 8:7
When they continued to question Him, He straightened up and said to them, "Let him who is without sin among you be the first to cast a stone at her."


Romans 2:1
You therefore have no excuse, you who pass judgment on another. For on whatever grounds you judge the other, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things.


Romans 14:10
Why, then, do you judge your brother? Or why do you belittle your brother? For we will all stand before God's judgment seat.


Romans 14:13
Therefore let us stop judging one another. Instead, make up your mind not to put any stumbling block or obstacle in your brother's way.


1 Corinthians 4:5
Therefore judge nothing before the proper time; wait until the Lord comes. He will bring to light what is hidden in darkness and will expose the motives of men's hearts. At that time each will receive his praise from God.


James 4:11
Brothers, do not slander one another. Anyone who speaks against his brother or judges him speaks against the Law and judges it. And if you judge the Law, you are not a practitioner of the Law, but a judge of it.

Elliot2:
u guys like moving the goal post, always! u said freeze will have a destructive end even though u r not God; however the other poster asked u a question whether those believers who hard a rather painful exit from earth were punish by God. You did not answer that! Then how can u have a decent conversation with people in this manner?

donblazer10:
just answer his question like a good Christian you claim to be and stop trying to avoid it

STENON:
You can as well answer the question.

SageTravels:
Chief Judge Do Not Judge

Matthew 7:1-2
1 Do not judge, or you will be judged. 2 For with the same judgment you pronounce, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.


Luke 6:37
Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven.


Luke 6:41
Why do you look at the speck in your brother's eye, but fail to notice the beam in your own eye?


John 8:7
When they continued to question Him, He straightened up and said to them, "Let him who is without sin among you be the first to cast a stone at her."


Romans 2:1
You therefore have no excuse, you who pass judgment on another. For on whatever grounds you judge the other, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things.


Romans 14:10
Why, then, do you judge your brother? Or why do you belittle your brother? For we will all stand before God's judgment seat.


Romans 14:13
Therefore let us stop judging one another. Instead, make up your mind not to put any stumbling block or obstacle in your brother's way.


1 Corinthians 4:5
Therefore judge nothing before the proper time; wait until the Lord comes. He will bring to light what is hidden in darkness and will expose the motives of men's hearts. At that time each will receive his praise from God.


James 4:11
Brothers, do not slander one another. Anyone who speaks against his brother or judges him speaks against the Law and judges it. And if you judge the Law, you are not a practitioner of the Law, but a judge of it.

1acre:
Freeze... run your church , do your thing ...you also mind the way you abuse men of God .. you are just too judgemental and it’s just so sticky

topbollz:
If God has revealed to you not to pay tithe who am I to stop you are any other.

Did Malachi 3:1-15 drop from Space of course not. With emphasis on 14 & 15 one needs to be more careful.

Come to think of it if you are asked to follow the Acts of the Apostles you would have brought down the heavens.

The time of Grace means you should sell all and give to the men of God. Acts 4:32-37 that is conscience. You can't afford to see any poor. If we are to follow it accordingly or literally. A lot don't pay yet the church is Marching on. A lot pay or give because they saw the respect people give to those that gave. Their reward there too in Acts 5:1-11

My Opinion is simple 10% is too small for me to be ranting about for what God has done for me and my family. God has used Pastor Adeboye to grow his kingdom from about 70 churches to thousands. Why won't he be blessed you think it a joke to pray and fast and lead just 5 people, something must be working for him and that I convet too. I trust Him for more and by his grace he will do above every thing I ask for. Nothing comes for nothing you have to pay a price. Salvation is free but yet the kingdom of God suffereth violence and only the violent take it by force. I see tithe as tapping into Gods greatness as in the Hebrews 7 you gave verse 4. Then read 4-7. If Christ is a priest according to order of Melchizedek verse 17 isn't it wise I emulate Abraham and give him my 10th. So that I can get blessed according to verse 6&7. Bro pay your tithe.

Do your best and let God see your service is in spirit and in truth. You can also read 1 Corinth. 9:8-15.

The Bible is an inspiration and that inspiration has not stopped reason why you might get confused if you do it without Gods guidance. The Pharisees that read it literally were chastised by Jesus.

Worse of James 4:17 says: James 4:17 New International Version (NIV)

17 If anyone, then, knows the good they ought to do and doesn’t do it, it is sin for them. And no sinner shall go to heaven.

You have no idea the lives these men of God are imparting financially, spiritually and in welfare. Reason why you need to do your homework before listening to Myopic view of nay Sayers who would not do and will not allow those that are doing be in peace.

Be Guided




If one has been a Christ for years and still need encouragement in giving and tithing there is something wrong somewhere. We should not allow happening around us to jeopardize the great benefit that awaits and is accrued to us as a result of being faithful.

Please Read 2 Chronicles 20:20. Gods word will never change to suit us.

sshyne:
This the problem I have with you Christians, it's only when it comes to money you spiritualize the scriptures. For example Isaac sowed in the land meaning he planted crops in the ground, but your pastors will spiritualize it to bring money in the church.
Humans were referred to as stones in so many part of the bible, so I support him on that. listen to his message and see what his talking about instead of the making conclusion based on what you were taught in you half baked bible studies

1acre:
Freeze... run your church , do your thing ...you also mind the way you abuse men of God .. you are just too judgemental and it’s just so sticky

Barzinime:
God has used Pastor Adeboye to grow his kingdom from about 70 churches to thousand...

Which kingdom? most of you people are just church goers...you can be deceiving yourself.
keep on paying your 10% it is not our business...
There are a lot of non-christian and are prospering so you can shove your beliefs down your throat

WhoBeThisMan:
what do you mean by half baked bible studies? Do you. Even know what you are saying? Have you.studied that scripture by yourself?

You said "the problem I have with you Christians" meaning you are not even a Christian. Who are you to support or not support what he is saying supposing he himself is even a Christian?

This right here is the problem with daddy freeze. His followers are not even Christians. And I sincerely doubt his motives

1acre:
Freeze... run your church , do your thing ...you also mind the way you abuse men of God .. you are just too judgemental and it’s just so sticky

1acre:
Freeze... run your church , do your thing ...you also mind the way you abuse men of God .. you are just too judgemental and it’s just so sticky

SageTravels:
Chief Judge Do Not Judge

Matthew 7:1-2
1 Do not judge, or you will be judged. 2 For with the same judgment you pronounce, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.


Luke 6:37
Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven.


Luke 6:41
Why do you look at the speck in your brother's eye, but fail to notice the beam in your own eye?


John 8:7
When they continued to question Him, He straightened up and said to them, "Let him who is without sin among you be the first to cast a stone at her."


Romans 2:1
You therefore have no excuse, you who pass judgment on another. For on whatever grounds you judge the other, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things.


Romans 14:10
Why, then, do you judge your brother? Or why do you belittle your brother? For we will all stand before God's judgment seat.


Romans 14:13
Therefore let us stop judging one another. Instead, make up your mind not to put any stumbling block or obstacle in your brother's way.


1 Corinthians 4:5
Therefore judge nothing before the proper time; wait until the Lord comes. He will bring to light what is hidden in darkness and will expose the motives of men's hearts. At that time each will receive his praise from God.


James 4:11
Brothers, do not slander one another. Anyone who speaks against his brother or judges him speaks against the Law and judges it. And if you judge the Law, you are not a practitioner of the Law, but a judge of it.

sshyne:
Am a Christian but not the like other Christians. I study my Bible and follow what the red bible says which is the word of Jesus. The difference between me and others "so called Christians " is they follow what there "god of men" says even if it's against Jesus teachings. Christians means christ-like. If Jesus didn't collect tithe, his disciples didn't collect tithe but they were all after taking care of the poor then where did the GOs get there doctrines and teachings from. Study the Bible yourself before you listen to what they have to say, if you are not careful what your pastors say will be the truth to you even if it's wrong.

topbollz:
That confirm the Wheat and Tares parable Matthew 13:24-30 New King James Version (NKJV)

The Parable of the Wheat and the Tares. Its not for anyone to judge them as in the act of going to Church is a step towards eventually getting saved.

How would they be saved if they never heard or have a encounter.

Leave Church goers it add nothing or removes nothing from anyone. He that has no sin cast the first stone.

Going to church is no deceit. It can't be compared to worshipping man made gods.

You are allowed to prosper here. But better to prosper here and in heaven and I can't afford to miss or trade that for anything.

SageTravels:
Chief Judge Do Not Judge

Matthew 7:1-2
1 Do not judge, or you will be judged. 2 For with the same judgment you pronounce, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.


Luke 6:37
Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven.


Luke 6:41
Why do you look at the speck in your brother's eye, but fail to notice the beam in your own eye?


John 8:7
When they continued to question Him, He straightened up and said to them, "Let him who is without sin among you be the first to cast a stone at her."


Romans 2:1
You therefore have no excuse, you who pass judgment on another. For on whatever grounds you judge the other, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things.


Romans 14:10
Why, then, do you judge your brother? Or why do you belittle your brother? For we will all stand before God's judgment seat.


Romans 14:13
Therefore let us stop judging one another. Instead, make up your mind not to put any stumbling block or obstacle in your brother's way.


1 Corinthians 4:5
Therefore judge nothing before the proper time; wait until the Lord comes. He will bring to light what is hidden in darkness and will expose the motives of men's hearts. At that time each will receive his praise from God.


James 4:11
Brothers, do not slander one another. Anyone who speaks against his brother or judges him speaks against the Law and judges it. And if you judge the Law, you are not a practitioner of the Law, but a judge of it.