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Re: Buhari Misled To Approve $469m For Fighter Jets Without NASS Backing - The Cable by dvee2: 9:18am On Apr 24, 2018
Paperwhite:
My friend an illegality can never be substituted for legality.There is nothing like "anticipatory approval" clause in the Nigerian constitution.Do you put the cart before the horse Absolutely no! So support Buhari with your dignity held high.

The word anticipatory approval started under GEJ when the then finance minister Ngozi stated that the reason for spending 40% of the money before the budget is approved is because of the anticipatory approval They were expecting for the budget.
Impeach who? You must be joking

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Re: Buhari Misled To Approve $469m For Fighter Jets Without NASS Backing - The Cable by plaetton: 9:20am On Apr 24, 2018
GavelSlam:
The excess crude account does not need parliamentary approval as the account was created between the state and federal executive.


In court it may yet be declared an illegal account but until that is done it would continue to be operated.

This is the same account that Jonathan was dipping his sticky fingers into without consulting with the governors which eventually led to his sack.
In this case , the president did consult with the state executives.

Some very slow contributor is asking how the account was funded but his 386 processor brain hasn't considered our budget and the recent surplus gained.

The president should be commended for acting swiftly and in the best interest of the nation.

First of all, the excess crude oil account is NOT a slush fund for the executive branch of government. It is duly recognized account of the Nigerian federation. The president must not appropriate a penny of any part of the federation account without the APPROVAL of the legislature. Period.

Secondly, aside from throwing lies and innuendos, kindly point out , with proof,on when Jonathan appropriated the excess crude Oil account without the approval of the legislature.

Thirdly, I think it would be helpful to all of us if you can kindly educate us on how the excess crude oil account has been funded since 2015.
Thank you.

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Re: Buhari Misled To Approve $469m For Fighter Jets Without NASS Backing - The Cable by BeeBeeOoh(m): 9:22am On Apr 24, 2018
guru03:


Guy this your slamming of Buhari no get part two chai,....

How 15m zombies saw this as that Messiah or Moses that will rescue or lead Nigeria out of Egypt remains a misery angry embarassed

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Re: Buhari Misled To Approve $469m For Fighter Jets Without NASS Backing - The Cable by GavelSlam: 9:23am On Apr 24, 2018
plaetton:

First of all, the excess crude oil account is NOT a slush fund for the executive branch of government. It is duly recognized account of the Nigerian federation. The president must not appropriate a penny of any part of the federation account without the APPROVAL of the legislature. Period.

Secondly, aside from throwing lies and innuendos, kindly point out , with proof,on when Jonathan appropriated the excess crude Oil account without the approval of the legislature.

Thirdly, I think it would be helpful to all of us if you can kindly educate us on how the excess crude oil account has been funded since 2015.
Thank you.

Because he never needed the Senate approval while dishing out from the ECA, it is impossible for me to provide a link In which he requested their consent.
Because it never happened.

The onus is on you to show that he did request their consent.

Even by your own admission you claim it is a slush fund.
How could it be a slush fund if the Senate needs to approve before being used?
Re: Buhari Misled To Approve $469m For Fighter Jets Without NASS Backing - The Cable by chichar1(f): 9:35am On Apr 24, 2018
GavelSlam:


I dare you to use your education to say or do something sensible.

What am I even saying?

What education?
education my foot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! just look at what you vomited this early morning,just because you want to defend the indefensible, but remember that great consequences and calamities must befall on this APC govt and its supporters like you and others on this platform. keep on depending on APC peanut!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Buhari Misled To Approve $469m For Fighter Jets Without NASS Backing - The Cable by GavelSlam: 9:41am On Apr 24, 2018
chichar1:
education my foot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! just look at what you vomited this early morning,just because you want to defend the indefensible, but remember that great consequences and calamities must befall on this APC govt and its supporters like you and others on this platform. keep on depending on APC peanut!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Gerrout .

Anytime someone provides an intelligent and superior argument to the gibberish you spew he is instantly on the payroll of government.

I've never met you but i would wager that even at my poorest, I would never be in your decrepit position. So that settles that.

To the pending issue, OBJ created the ECA and successive governments have operated it without Senate approval.

If you have any contrary opinion, provide it.

Muppets always thinking they have something in their heads.

Re: Buhari Misled To Approve $469m For Fighter Jets Without NASS Backing - The Cable by guru03(m): 9:42am On Apr 24, 2018
BeeBeeOoh:
How 15m zombies saw this as that Messiah or Moses that will rescue or lead Nigeria out of Egypt remains a misery angry embarassed

Nice one, those zombies have been cowed, and some believe he his still the Messiah when it is glaring that he his a total failure. We are waiting to escort him to Daura ....

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Re: Buhari Misled To Approve $469m For Fighter Jets Without NASS Backing - The Cable by Nobody: 9:44am On Apr 24, 2018
It's only a dullard leader that will pretend he doesn't know what is happening around him.

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Re: Buhari Misled To Approve $469m For Fighter Jets Without NASS Backing - The Cable by plaetton: 9:51am On Apr 24, 2018
GavelSlam:


Because he never needed the Senate approval while dishing out from the ECA, it is impossible for me to provide a link In which he requested their consent.
Because it never happened.

The onus is on you to show that he did request their consent.

Even by your own admission you claim it is a slush fund.
How could it be a slush fund if the Senate needs to approve before being used?
I said it is NOT a slush fund.

Secondl, you have absolutely no proof that Jonathan appropriated the ECA without legislative approval, and you want me to prove that he didn't ? shocked

Are you serious ?
You made the assertion, you are logically required to back up your assertion with proof or even references.

Is is logically inconsistent , in this case, extremely disingenuous and silly , to ask me to prove a negative proposition.

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Re: Buhari Misled To Approve $469m For Fighter Jets Without NASS Backing - The Cable by Nobody: 9:53am On Apr 24, 2018
crap! the redundant ancestor will soon be misled to auction nig.!

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Re: Buhari Misled To Approve $469m For Fighter Jets Without NASS Backing - The Cable by GavelSlam: 10:02am On Apr 24, 2018
plaetton:

I said it is NOT a slush fund.

Secondl, you have absolutely no proof that Jonathan appropriated the ECA without legislative approval, and you want to prove that he didn't ? shocked

Are you serious ?
You made the assertion, you are logically required to back up your assertion with proof or even references.

Is is logically inconsistent , in this case, extremely disingenuous and silly , to ask me to prove a negative proposition.

Don't be a slowpoke.

If you say he spent from the ECA with Senate approval provide one link.

He never needed it because it was not in the Senate's remit and you know it.

Re: Buhari Misled To Approve $469m For Fighter Jets Without NASS Backing - The Cable by BeeBeeOoh(m): 10:04am On Apr 24, 2018
guru03:


Nice one, those zombies have been cowed, and some believe he his still the Messiah when it is glaring that he his a total failure. We are waiting to escort him to Daura ....
By God's grace his journey will be very smooth and sweet cool

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Re: Buhari Misled To Approve $469m For Fighter Jets Without NASS Backing - The Cable by chichar1(f): 10:05am On Apr 24, 2018
GavelSlam:


Gerrout .

Anytime someone provides an intelligent and superior argument to the gibberish you spew he is instantly on the payroll of government.

I've never met you but i would wager that even at my poorest, I would never be in your decrepit position. So that settles that.

To the pending issue, OBJ created the ECA and successive governments have operated it without Senate approval.

If you have any contrary opinion, provide it.

Muppets always thinking they have something in their heads.

Muppet huh!!!!!!!!!! keep on deceiving yourself, one day good people of this country will celebrate on your stupidity

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Re: Buhari Misled To Approve $469m For Fighter Jets Without NASS Backing - The Cable by GavelSlam: 10:08am On Apr 24, 2018
chichar1:
Muppet huh!!!!!!!!!! keep on deceiving yourself, one day good people of this country will celebrate on your stupidity

Illiterate.
Re: Buhari Misled To Approve $469m For Fighter Jets Without NASS Backing - The Cable by 042gist: 10:11am On Apr 24, 2018
One day, they will approve the sale of this country to Bill Gate without knowing.
Re: Buhari Misled To Approve $469m For Fighter Jets Without NASS Backing - The Cable by Rockyrascal(m): 10:20am On Apr 24, 2018
Misled!? Well we shouldn't expect much from someone who has NEPA bill for a certificate.
Re: Buhari Misled To Approve $469m For Fighter Jets Without NASS Backing - The Cable by godliman: 10:26am On Apr 24, 2018
seunmsg:
The headline is simply sensational and a figment of the imagination of the editors of cable news. The president was not misled and nothing in the piece above suggested that he was misled. He simply gave an anticipatory approval and he stated it clearly in his letter to the national assembly.

We had a deadline to beat and considering that we've been negotiating for this military equipment since the time of Jonathan, the presidents decision is the only patriotic option available. The money was paid directly into US governments treasury and not to middle men. That alone brings some level of confidence that corruption is not involved. It would have been worrying if cash was loaded on to a private jet and flown illegally to middle men in US as it was done during the Jonathan days.

It is now left for the national assembly to regularise the procurement by including it in the 2018 appropriation act that is still before them as requested by the president.
YOU WILL DO WELL AS BUHARI'S SPOKESMAN
Re: Buhari Misled To Approve $469m For Fighter Jets Without NASS Backing - The Cable by plaetton: 10:38am On Apr 24, 2018
GavelSlam:


Don't be a slowpoke.

If you say he spent from the ECA with Senate approval provide one link.

He never needed it because it was not in the Senate's remit and you know it.


This is where you have gone full regard.

This is why you failed most of your exams in school.

I don't know for a fact that Jonathan did or did not spend ECA without legislative approval.
You brought Jonathan into this debate by asserting that Jonathan DID spend ECA funds without legislative approval.
And now it is becoming obvious that you pulled that right out of your Arxx.

All we dumb and ignorant people are asking you is to educate us with facts and references of when and how Jonathan such.

You asking me to prove that he didn't is the stuuuupidest line of argument I have heard in a long while.
It is nothing but cognitive dissonance at it's very worst.

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Re: Buhari Misled To Approve $469m For Fighter Jets Without NASS Backing - The Cable by GavelSlam: 10:45am On Apr 24, 2018
plaetton:


This is where you have gone full regard.

This is why you failed most of your exams in school.

I don't know for a fact that Jonathan did or did not spend ECA without legislative approval.
You brought Jonathan into this debate by asserting that Jonathan DID spend ECA funds without legislative approval.
And now it is becoming obvious that you pulled that right out of your Arxx.

All we dumb and ignorant people are asking you is to educate us with facts and references of when and how Jonathan such.

You asking me to prove that he didn't is the stuuuupidest line of argument I have heard in a long while.
It is nothing but cognitive dissonance at it's very worst.

Presidents (Olusegun) Obasanjo, (Umaru) Yar’Adua and (Goodluck) Jonathan were alleged to have spent N1.5trillion without parliamentary approval. We thought that that era had gone for good.

http://saharareporters.com/2018/04/24/falana-asks-nassembly-probe-buharis-withdrawal-496m-eca
Re: Buhari Misled To Approve $469m For Fighter Jets Without NASS Backing - The Cable by Realist2: 10:50am On Apr 24, 2018
Omeokachie:
Another case of "I didn't know" looms...


What does this president know?

He is an award winning El-dullardeen

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Re: Buhari Misled To Approve $469m For Fighter Jets Without NASS Backing - The Cable by Durchmann(m): 10:50am On Apr 24, 2018
GavelSlam:


Presidents (Olusegun) Obasanjo, (Umaru) Yar’Adua and (Goodluck) Jonathan were alleged to have spent N1.5trillion without parliamentary approval. We thought that that era had gone for good.

http://saharareporters.com/2018/04/24/falana-asks-nassembly-probe-buharis-withdrawal-496m-eca

Hmm...

Ironically, Falana used the highlighted term above. In other words, he had no proof.

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Re: Buhari Misled To Approve $469m For Fighter Jets Without NASS Backing - The Cable by bankylan: 10:52am On Apr 24, 2018
GavelSlam:
The excess crude account does not need parliamentary approval as the account was created between the state and federal executive.


In court it may yet be declared an illegal account but until that is done it would continue to be operated.

This is the same account that Jonathan was dipping his sticky fingers into without consulting with the governors which eventually led to his sack.
In this case , the president did consult with the state executives.

Some very slow contributor is asking how the account was funded but his 386 processor brain hasn't considered our budget and the recent surplus gained.

The president should be commended for acting swiftly and in the best interest of the nation.



Your mental enslavement is at another level.

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Re: Buhari Misled To Approve $469m For Fighter Jets Without NASS Backing - The Cable by 2016v2017: 10:54am On Apr 24, 2018
SalamRushdie:
Misled? Misled? Misled indeed!!!! When are people going to start allowing this Buhari man take the blame for his actions ABI is Buhari a slowpoke who can't make a single sound decision for himself ?
is buhari above impeachment?

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Re: Buhari Misled To Approve $469m For Fighter Jets Without NASS Backing - The Cable by Angelfrost(m): 11:10am On Apr 24, 2018
GavelSlam:


I dare you to use your education to say or do something sensible.

What am I even saying?

What education?

For How long are you going to keep up this thankless and failing task of defending both the rights and wrongs of this barely average administration I have nothing against the president, but we have to call a spade what it truly is... True leadership is way beyond the grasp of our commander-in-chief. Such a shame. Even Donald Trump that never walked the corridors of executive power is miles ahead of Buhari in terms of administration.

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Re: Buhari Misled To Approve $469m For Fighter Jets Without NASS Backing - The Cable by GavelSlam: 11:17am On Apr 24, 2018
Angelfrost:


For How long are you going to keep up this thankless and failing task of defending both the rights and wrongs of this barely average administration I have nothing against the president, but we have to call a spade what it truly is... True leadership is way beyond the grasp of our commander-in-chief. Such a shame. Even Donald Trump that never walked the corridors of executive power is miles ahead of Buhari in terms of administration.

When would you be fair to the president?

What can he do to satisfy except die or be impeached?

Be true to yourself.

I have given countless newspapnewspaper links and even today, Falana has given some credence to my earlier statement on the situation of the ECA as used by other presidents.

Read, research and stop acting the zombie.

Make a conclusion devoid of sentiments but strictly on the merit of the case.

Re: Buhari Misled To Approve $469m For Fighter Jets Without NASS Backing - The Cable by GavelSlam: 11:20am On Apr 24, 2018
Durchmann:


Hmm...

Ironically, Falana used the highlighted term above. In other words, he had no proof.

Voice don dey change.

grin
Re: Buhari Misled To Approve $469m For Fighter Jets Without NASS Backing - The Cable by GavelSlam: 11:31am On Apr 24, 2018
plaetton:


This is where you have gone full regard.

This is why you failed most of your exams in school.

I don't know for a fact that Jonathan did or did not spend ECA without legislative approval.
You brought Jonathan into this debate by asserting that Jonathan DID spend ECA funds without legislative approval.
And now it is becoming obvious that you pulled that right out of your Arxx.

All we dumb and ignorant people are asking you is to educate us with facts and references of when and how Jonathan such.

You asking me to prove that he didn't is the stuuuupidest line of argument I have heard in a long while.
It is nothing but cognitive dissonance at it's very worst.

Been waiting for your response since I provided Falana's quote.

What happened?

Would be slightly hypocritical if you had said anything wouldn't it?
Re: Buhari Misled To Approve $469m For Fighter Jets Without NASS Backing - The Cable by Angelfrost(m): 11:37am On Apr 24, 2018
GavelSlam:


[b]When would you be fair to the president?

What can he do to satisfy except die or be impeached?

Be true to yourself.

I have given countless newspapnewspaper links and even today, Falana has given some credence to my earlier statement on the situation of the ECA as used by other presidents.

Read, research and stop acting the zombie.

Make a conclusion devoid of sentiments but strictly on the merit of the case.

Really?! Zombie?! Is that how low you can descend? President Buhari was far worse than an arm-chair critic while in the opposition. He never supported, nor gave even one piece of advice. All of a sudden you are demanding fairness??! Maybe you missed the part where I stated that I have nothing against him. BTW, all the points you made are quite salient, and I do not disagree. I was merely pointing out the need to avoid partisanship, and praising him even when he is clearly on the wrong track. You guys need to seriously temper that poor Nigerian need to be saucy, insulting, and unnecessarily rude!!!

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Re: Buhari Misled To Approve $469m For Fighter Jets Without NASS Backing - The Cable by Angelfrost(m): 11:40am On Apr 24, 2018
[quote author=GavelSlam post=66984034]

[b]When would you be fair to the president?

What can he do to satisfy except die or be impeached?

Be true to yourself.

I have given countless newspapnewspaper links and even today, Falana has given some credence to my earlier statement on the situation of the ECA as used by other presidents.

Read, research and stop acting the zombie.

Make a conclusion devoid of sentiments but strictly on the merit of the case.

Really?! Zombie?! Is that how low you can descend? President Buhari was far worse than an arm-chair critic while in the opposition. He never supported, nor gave even one piece of advice. All of a sudden you are demanding fairness??! Maybe you missed the part where I stated that I have nothing against him. BTW, all the points you made are quite salient, and I do not disagree. I was merely pointing out the need to avoid partisanship, and praising him even when he is clearly on the wrong track. You guys need to seriously temper that poor Nigerian need to be saucy, insulting, and unnecessarily rude!!!

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Re: Buhari Misled To Approve $469m For Fighter Jets Without NASS Backing - The Cable by GavelSlam: 11:43am On Apr 24, 2018
[quote author=Angelfrost post=66984561][/quote]

Stop dribbling like a child would saliva.

This thread is about the ECA give a position and stop looking for my attention.

Which of his critics have you asked to pipe down on their constant vilification?

Let me guess ..zilch.

Stick to the matter at hand.

The ECA has been in operation since OBJ Yes or no?

Did any of the other presidents seek legislative consent before spending from the ECA?

Where were the insults reigned on them when they didn't?

Who threatened them with impeachment when they did?

When you give all these answers I would take you as a Nigerian who is truly concerned about the nation and not someone who has an insidious agenda.

Till then, you are same of the same.
Re: Buhari Misled To Approve $469m For Fighter Jets Without NASS Backing - The Cable by slimghost(m): 11:49am On Apr 24, 2018
seunmsg:
The headline is simply sensational and a figment of the imagination of the editors of cable news. The president was not misled and nothing in the piece above suggested that he was misled. He simply gave an anticipatory approval and he stated it clearly in his letter to the national assembly.

We had a deadline to beat and considering that we've been negotiating for this military equipment since the time of Jonathan, the presidents decision is the only patriotic option available. The money was paid directly into US governments treasury and not to middle men. That alone brings some level of confidence that corruption is not involved. It would have been worrying if cash was loaded on to a private jet and flown illegally to middle men in US as it was done during the Jonathan days.

It is now left for the national assembly to regularise the procurement by including it in the 2018 appropriation act that is still before them as requested by the president.

So a human being supposedly created in God's image and given sense wrote this and then another 8 idiots liked it? It is finished! This is about the most stupid and dumb submission I have read this month. tuaaaah!

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