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That was how these Firs people forced my friend from SA to shut down his business, everyday different bills.Some of them were even telling him how much he's making as if they were the ones patronizing him, the truth is in that shithole called Nigeria the rich would never want to see the poor survive. Am not against paying tax though, but why accusing the woman that she had a turnover of N18M . Na dem dey chop the food. Mtcheew.

I understand your pain and frustration madam.

The only thing I will advice businesses to do is submit your company's tax returns on a timely basis. Maybe some Nigerian company/ business accounting expert in the house should talk us through the legal duties of a Nigerian company Director.

IamD18:
There are the challenges of being successful, kindly deal with and stop crying on social media.

No legal achievement is successfully achieved easily, there must be challenges.

Coming from someone who has never started anything in his life, not even a Nairaland thread of your own.

I can relate with this post as I have an uncle who owns a hotel and is about to shut it down, unfortunately, a lot of you commenting do not own businesses that is why you are making assumptions.

You can pay your tax every month of the year, that doesn't stop FIRS or LIRS coming up with their own figures after their inspection (yes they come and inspect businesses). So people who are not in the know let me tell you who you have to contend with if you want to attempt to start a business in hospitality.

I can't give exact figures but this is some of the figurea we have to contend with

Local Government - 500,000 a year for an entertainment license, road, water
FIRS - 500,000 approx
LIRS - 500,000 approx
Environmental and Health - Levy - 550,000
Lawma - 220,000
Lassa - (I can't remember)
NEPA - 12M a year: The light is terrible but what can you do.
Disel - 8.6 M a year
Tourism - (can't remember this amount
Land Use - (definitely over a million)

All of these agencies will come uninvited for their inspection and all will threaten to close down your business. All of these agencies are justified in a reputable environment however they never use concrete figures but will use arbitrary figures based on assumptions of how well they think you should be doing.

An example:
They told my uncle he was owing about 4Million for Payee. However when we checked their calculations we found the figures we gave them for our payments had been doctored, In their figures, it showed we had multiple cleaners earning about 5Million naira a month (for a hotel in Nigeria how ). We are still contesting this figure.

Where is the profit going to come from look at the NEPA bill

Nigeria is a wicked country control by Hausa Fulanis to make sure that we remain in poverty according to their religion.

IdeyFindWife:
When UNO &co start reeling out stats on why home-based Nigerians shouldn't expect to live too long, you wonder why but with stuffs like this, why not?

Paying taxes, rates, bills etc is not often the problem of the majority but getting commensurate value, on time and with predictable regularity

Chai, entrepreneurs are suffering untold hardships in Nigeria, startups/SME's are worse off, yet the Senate, the executive and the military find times for all their catch-a-mouse-&-let-it-go anti-corruption & Alaba Mkt Prison Break games, it's sad.

Somebody better go tell the thin-necked Aso Rock Chief tenant that 2019 won't be Nunu-Time for him as usual!

at least you still have your smiles on. you are not lazy

Tenement rate 500k.dem dey craze

NwaAmaikpe:



Pay what you owe.
The government needs your tax to fuel the tanks of our politicians' convoys and to sustain the health of our President and his family.

Be patriotic for once.
Pay your tax and do it smiling.
Patriotic Nigerians suffer and smile.

for your mind, you have made sense

Buffalowings3:
Seeing how a private business is run has been an eye opener for me.
I work for a new establishment in ilorin and I am always aghast at the number of so called government officials we see monthly.
They are like ants trying to swallow up the nascent business.
From them demanding payment for water bills despite non existent water pipeline to our facility
To those demanding extra payment because our billboard has adverts on both faces
To ministries that couldn't get their shit together sending different personnels]to us every other month despite having resolved their issue the priviuos months

And then when I see the cost of power in running the place, I question the managers sanity in leaving the comfort of his blissful life abroad instead of coming to this hellhole. The sunk cost for power is mind boggling. He had to have solar, inverter, and the old bastards nepa just to get by.
From its inception, the establishment just barely breaks even.


This country is a mess
This country has gone to the dogs

Walahi if I own a business, maa da si rough fun won ni.
What has the govt ever done for me.

My brother, they're like sand. imagine even the electronics in the office, there are agencies for it.. we have to pay 15k quarterly for using electronics in the office.
environmental would come, water would come, NEPA would come, firs would come... can't remember all of them. I was like how much exactly do they think one is making? it's annoying. sometimes I'm force to fight them I swear

NwaAmaikpe:



Pay what you owe.
The government needs your tax to fuel the tanks of our politicians' convoys and to sustain the health of our President and his family.

Be patriotic for once.
Pay your tax and do it smiling.
Patriotic Nigerians suffer and smile.

I know you're from the government, can you tell me a single thing the youths have benefited from the government? why are you guys frustrating the common man?

Offpoint:
My brother, they're like sand. imagine even the electronics in the office, there are agencies for it.. we have to pay 15k quarterly for using electronics in the office.
environmental would come, water would come, NEPA would come, firs would come... can't remember all of them. I was like how much exactly do they think one is making? it's annoying. sometimes I'm force to fight them I swear

So if I get my water from a borehole I paid for, the govt will still come and collect water bills from me.

You are not alone in this oppression, same in Lagos. Who will save us from the hands of these oppressors. I keep imagining why we are to stand up against this wickedness and kickstart revolution sort off

bionixs:
I know you're from the government, can you tell me a single thing the youths have benefited from the government? why are you guys frustrating the common man?

He doesn't work for the government. He's just a Devil's Advocate.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devil%27s_advocate

mekaboy:
Coming from someone who has never started anything in his life, not even a Nairaland thread of your own.

Damn very harsh
Felt it too

Rubyventures:
So if I get my water from a borehole I paid for, the govt will still come and collect water bills from me.

my brother I no fit talk.. I don fight tire

Offpoint:
my brother I no fit talk.. I don fight tire

Nigerian govt is a bully, how can a business survive in such a harsh environment? The truth is until Nigerians revolt against the govt we are not going to see any change.

Rubyventures:
Nigerian govt is a bully, how can a business survive in such a harsh environment? The truth is until Nigerians revolt against the govt we are not going to see any change.

We are not even ready to revolt my brother... it's the usual suffering and smiling we'll keep doing till kingdom comes.

It's just sad that these small businesses are squeezed dry and the dangote's of Nigeria get massive tax breaks

eezeribe:
A Government that cannot provide steady power supply,good roads and security for its citizens should not be thinking of collecting tax...
Taxes that are wasted by politicians to fund their extravagant lifestyles
I know that big investors like Donald Trump have a way of evading taxes by doctoring their annual reports and frustrating external auditors;but the small and medium scale entrepreneurs don't have these shenanigans at their disposal.The best thing for them is to form strong unions that would be assaulting these tax officers whenever they come to their premises and if possible,burn down their offices until we begin to see the evidence of our tax payments.

Our wonderful Port Harcourt! First of all, it pays to get a prepaid meter. I use N2500 worth of unit every month. I don't doubt the 75k nepa bill. My neighbor is a fashion designer without AC, they brought bill of 63000 last month for him. Port Harcourt is an expensive place to do biz, i feel her pain.

My advice to anyone in business or proposing the idea. The most important thing to know after how to produce is how to manage your tax affairs.
It can easily render you bankrupt and worse in prison

IdeyFindWife:
When UNO &co start reeling out stats on why home-based Nigerians shouldn't expect to live too long, you wonder why but with stuffs like this, why not?

Paying taxes, rates, bills etc is not often the problem of the majority but getting commensurate value, on time and with predictable regularity

Chai, entrepreneurs are suffering untold hardships in Nigeria, startups/SME's are worse off, yet the Senate, the executive and the military find times for all their catch-a-mouse-&-let-it-go anti-corruption & Alaba Mkt Prison Break games, it's sad.

Somebody better go tell the thin-necked Aso Rock Chief tenant that 2019 won't be Nunu-Time for him as usual!

One useless buharist will come to defend APC calling Nigerian youths lazy.
No one ever get encouraged for doing anything positive in this country.
Sadist everywhere.

IamD18:
These are the challenges of being successful, kindly deal with and stop crying on social media.

No legal achievement is successfully achieved easily, there must be challenges.

Challenges wey make sense! Paying phcn bill of 72k, n still no light! Burning Diesel for her gen, worth 100k+ in d same month! Bleep success, she needs a break

branham890:
CC IamaNigerianGuy

that's an upper cut bro
damn!!!

I felt bad about it but couldn't resist. The woman is trying to make a living and groaning under government oppression. The guy should not have been so callous.

You see how stupid and foolish you are..is like a don't understand English in the afternoon right..you are talking about paying tax..what will It be use for to take the presidents son to hospital abroad right..

They don't give you light,no good roads,no good health system,no good eduction system and no security ..you do all this things yourself and if you are asked to pay that amount you go ahead and pay sorry for you

IamD18:
These are the challenges of being successful, kindly deal with and stop crying on social media.

No legal achievement is successfully achieved easily, there must be challenges.

Have you ever tried to earn legitimately online? I.E as a network expert or a freelancer? or so? Tell me where the challenges of this kind happens? Truth be told the govt don't care about us. .make she park up, go another state,probabl Lagos and start all over again. Within a few months have gonna be greater

Perfectnumber6:
That was how these Firs people forced my friend from SA to shut down his business, everyday different bills.Some of them were even telling him how much he's making as if they were the ones patronizing him, the truth is in that shithole called Nigeria the rich would never want to see the poor survive. Am not against paying tax though, but why accusing the woman that she had a turnover of N18M . Na dem dey chop the food. Mtcheew.

I am convinced that they do this deliberately so that the business owner will be forced to 'settle' the matter unofficially. Maybe your friend was paying the correct amount of taxes without any 'extras'. The FIRS officers hate that even more than somebody who does not pay any taxes at all. They will show you who 'know book' pass if you insist on paying the correct taxes. If you like, carry ICAN president go there.

NwaliE01:
One useless buharist will come to defend APC calling Nigerian youths lazy.
No one ever get encouraged for doing anything positive in this country.
Sadist everywhere.

Forget that nonsense and focus on the issue. These FIRS and other arbitrary levies by sundry other government agencies did not start from president Buhari's inauguration. They will not end when he leaves. Buhari is not the reason your beans got burnt.

lefulefu:
Tax money that they will use to invite oyibo oloshos and organise three0me sex parties in Nicon Nuga hotel or send their sugar girls abroad. Everywhere na mess. No stable electricity, no security..no nothing. The thunder that will strike Aso rock is still doing press up in kukuruku hills.

The thunder should be done with its press-up and hammer the Senate, the House of Reps and the Presidency altogether.. and the FIRS too!

I hope one day, Tithe payers will cry out collectively just like these ones....

Often times we ve tried to Sensitize them about how the govt officials spend the taxpayers money frivolously.....

But their (taxpayers) "I don't care" mentality made all our advice fall on deaf ears!!!

Now they are feeling the heat!!!

#SaynotopayingofTax

As much as I frown at multiple taxation, one should also frown at the average Nigerian's aversion to paying taxes.

The tax collection rate is about 4% of GDP which should be around the worst 10 in the world.

Businessmen and the self employed are not conscious they have to pay both company and income taxes.

It is important that tax rates are business friendly and are streamlined. Also important that the company tax rate is reduced from the ridiculous 32% (if you include education tax) to nothing more than 15%.

If the government is serious about collecting taxes, it should also ensure the economy is booming as this will boost revenues to be taxed.

A tattered economy will leave the government with battered tax collection figures

Madam is part of Lazy Youths

Offpoint:
That was how one came to me last year...demanding I'm to pay 20k.
him: I want to see your boss
me: he's not around, how can I help you?
him: we are advertisement agency, your bill is 20k.
me: smile.. 20k for what exactly? what am I advertising please?
him: For the banner outside.
Me: What banner? are you the one that print it for me?
Him: what do you mean? I want to see your boss
Me: Have your sit, and wait for him... you just came around this morning demanding for 20k... do you have any idea how much I've made this month? I know you're from the government, can you tell me a single thing the youths have benefited from the government? why are you guys frustrating the common man?
Him: young man I'm just doing my job...
Me: %/=% ?#*
Him: I'll lock this shop up, do you know you're insulting me?
Me: you know... I think it's best you wait for him... just so you know... he's owning me... so... even if he sell his car you can't get a 20 outta him.

they got tired and left.

Being born a Nigerian is the worst thing to have happened to anyone
Jesus Christ! the guys are like sand... every month... environmental whatever would come with bills, NEPA would come, water would come, firs would come, even the electronics used in the offices/shop there is agency for it.
JEsus Christ what's our offense? government work peanut salary, private work future not promise cause they can shutdown at anytime due to unfriendly business environment...you start a business of your own they frustrate your life. you go school no hope, you no go school no hope, you learn work environment no let business move...

Being a Nigerian is an automatic ticket to heaven, cuz one can't go to hell twice.. in fact there's more rest of mind in hell than in Nigeria.

if I leave this country ehn? nothing go make me even fly by hm airspace talkless of coming back. I die where I go. cuz I believe God sef Don comot him hand for Nigeria matter.

On point.