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wickyyolo:
The Benue people are paying for their sins.

Voting for Change was a criminal act

Stop saying trash please, even if they voted a bastard is that the reason why they should all die?? These are innocent human lives for crying out loud!! Let's all lend out voice in calling for the impeachment and arrest of Buhari for war crimes. In whatever capacity you can, be it Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, nairaland, print media etc, let your voice be heard now. These people are facing extinction and if you think you are safe then better have a rethink, this is a state sponsored jihad against Christians in Nigeria. Once they are done destroying Benue, they will move South.

Please the people of Benue, nobody can fight the battle for you. Only can fight this battle by retaliate.
The Governor of the State Benue is very Weak. If the Governor can't do it you can do it. enough is enough.

3Ebisco:
Seven internally displaced persons (IDPs) taking refuge at the African Church and LGEA Primary School, Mondo, were, yesterday, killed in Ukemberagya, Gaambe-Tiev, Logo Local Government Area of Benue State.

The latest attack is just two days after the killing of two Catholic priests and 17 parishioners in Mbalom, Gwer Local Government Area, and barely 24 hours after the murder of 37 persons in Guma on Wednesday.

A community leader in the area, Chief Joseph Anawah, told Daily Sun that the attackers stormed the area around 12:22am while the people were still sleeping. He said the victims were among those camped in African Church and LGEA Primary School, Mondo, after they were displaced from their homes by suspected herdsmen.

“At about 12:22am, gunshots were heard in the area that woke the people up, as they scampered for safety. In the process, seven of them were killed on the spot and several others are said to be missing. The marauders did not stop there, they went ahead to mount a roadblock along Wukari-Anyiin road and seized more than four motorcycles. As I speak with you, the area is completely deserted,” he said.

Chairman of the local government area, Mr. Richard Nyajo, who confirmed the report, said seven persons were killed.

Reacting to the incident, the acting governor, Engr. Benson Abounu, lamented that the state was under the siege of Fulani herdsmen from all corners. He urged the Federal Government as well as security chiefs to get to the root of the incessant killings, with a view to finding a lasting solution.

However, the police could not be reached at the time of this report as both the commissioner of police in the state, Fatai Owoseni, and the state’s police public relations officer, ASP Moses Yamu, did not pick their calls.

http://www.mcebisco.com.ng/2018/04/gunmen-invade-idps-camp-in-benue-kill-7.html

We need to use this on our government

proeast:
Stop saying trash please, even if they voted a bastard is that the reason why they should all die?? These are innocent human lives for crying out loud!! Let's all lend out voice in calling for the impeachment and arrest of Buhari for war crimes. In whatever capacity you can, be it Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, nairaland, print media etc, let your voice be heard now. These people are facing extinction and if you think you are safe then better have a rethink, this is a state sponsored jihad against Christians in Nigeria. Once they are done destroying Benue, they will move South.

we the southerners are waiting for them. Let them come

deboysben:
Even in idp



Where will they now run for safety?

Daura!

may all those leaders perish

Attentions completely shifted from Sambisa forest to Benue state herds men.
Sincerely speaking, there is no government in Benue state.

Where has Benue a state gone wrong to deserve this inhumanity from fellow citizens and injustice from the government?

Yorubas Igbos and Hausas must come together and fight for the peace of its nation.

One for all, all for one.

We need each other to get our peace, freedom from evil

Redoil:
I hope omenka and omenkalives are not among those idp

I honestly hope he is among them, after all the fulani herdsmen are peace makers, the real terrorists are IPOB

obailala:
What exactly is stopping the Benue state government from setting up a state-wide armed vigilante group to flush out and expel every Fulani from Benue?

How can massacres like this keep happening unhindered every other day without a single resistance?... not from the police, not from the military, not from civil defence and not from vigilantes?... not even a single one of the perpetrators arrested or killed, like absolutely zero resisitance?... Even in Taraba, at least we hear of attacks and repisals, but in Benue, it just seems the Benue people are just inanimate objects. This situation lacks logic.

Oba, that's the government you campaigned for....

If it continues like this by 2023 there will be no state called Benue again...God arise

5thElement:
This is alarming.

This is just so crazy.

Why can't the government declare a state of emergency in Benue?

they cant and it's isn't needed cause the state of emergency would only make matters worst as the deployment would only assist the herdsmen further

ajebuter:
Oba, that's the government you campaigned for....

And so what?... Do yourself some good and wake up from this your endless 2015 Jonathanian delusion.

Between 2010 and 2015, thousands were also killed by the very same herdsmen in the middle belt but it was never reported at the time because a bigger overshadowing menace (BH) then was killing tens of thousands. The govt at that time was incompetent in it's security (and other) responsibilities and so it was booted out. Oh yes, I have absolutely no regret for booting out the old scumbags.

Fastforward to 2015, new set of guys guys take over and have once again proven to be another set of incompetent scumbags, they will also be booted out but that is only assured if people like yourself wake up and stop dwelling in this your endless Jonathanian wailing.

enlady:
@ the bolded
Our laws do not permit any group to bear arms apart from the armed forces and police. We are all witnesses to how the army hounded and arrested the livestock guards previously set up by Gov Ortom.
Call a spade a spade. We have a commander in chief of the armed forces. The buck stops at his table. He has chosen not act

Vigilantes may not be allowed to wield automatic assault rifles like AK47s, but there's no law stopping the state government (with the backing of the state HOA) from setting up and arming state vigilantes with guns line pump action rifles. If they are arrested and the governor pays a visit to the station, not even the IG can prevent the governor from releasing his boys legally. Let's forget all these excuses and ostrish play by the governor, even though we practice a strange federal system, the fact is that we still have a federal system and the governor wields enormous powers.

proeast:
Stop saying trash please, even if they voted a bastard is that the reason why they should all die?? These are innocent human lives for crying out loud!! Let's all lend out voice in calling for the impeachment and arrest of Buhari for war crimes. In whatever capacity you can, be it Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, nairaland, print media etc, let your voice be heard now. These people are facing extinction and if you think you are safe then better have a rethink, this is a state sponsored jihad against Christians in Nigeria. Once they are done destroying Benue, they will move South.

What are you saying ? They will not move south, if they do we will fight. Niger Delta is not toothless like the Benue people.
This is the sins they pay for voting a Jihadist. Goodluck to the Them.

again?

You are just trying hard to exonerate Buhari.
No governor or state house of assembly can promulgate a law empowering a vigilante to carry arms. The courts will throw it out.
The constitution is very clear. Section 214 (1) of the Constitution says:
"There shall be a police force for Nigeria, which shall be known as the Nigeria Police Force, and subject to the provisions of this section no other police force shall be established for the Federation or any part thereof.
The livestock guards earlier equipped by Gov Ortom was also backed by sections of the anti open grazing bill of enacted by the Benue HOA. But the military arrested and disarmed them in January 2018 when these attacks heightened.
Any bill passed by a state HOA contravening the constitution stands illegal.
Until we amend the constitution to allow state police, the buck stops at Buhari's table.
In this Benue instance, PMB has been irresponsible and a complete failure!

obailala:
Vigilantes may not be allowed to wield automatic assault rifles like AK47s, but there's no law stopping the state government (with the backing of the state HOA) from setting up and arming state vigilantes with guns line pump action rifles. If they are arrested and the governor pays a visit to the station, not even the IG can prevent the governor from releasing his boys legally. Let's forget all these excuses and ostrish play by the governor, even though we practice a strange federal system, the fact is that we still have a federal system and the governor wields enormous powers.

North and violence are onE

enlady:
You are just trying hard to exonerate Buhari.
No governor or state house of assembly can promulgate a law empowering a vigilante to carry arms. The courts will throw it out.
The constitution is very clear. Section 214 (1) of the Constitution says:
"There shall be a police force for Nigeria, which shall be known as the Nigeria Police Force, and subject to the provisions of this section no other police force shall be established for the Federation or any part thereof.
The livestock guards earlier equipped by Gov Ortom was also backed by sections of the anti open grazing bill of enacted by the Benue HOA. But the military arrested and disarmed them in January 2018 when these attacks heightened.
Any bill passed by a state HOA contravening the constitution stands illegal.
Until we amend the constitution to allow state police, the buck stops at Buhari's table.
In this Benue instance, PMB has been irresponsible and a complete failure!

So in essence, are you saying all vigilantes bearing pump action and other types of non-automatic weapons around the country are illegal?

Im not understanding your point..Vigilantes are vigilantes and police is police; why are you mixing the two?

wickyyolo:
What are you saying ? They will not move south, if they do we will fight. Niger Delta is not toothless like the Benue people.
This is the sins they pay for voting a Jihadist. Goodluck to the Them.

Are you waiting for them to bring the war to your home before you react? Believe me these guys have covert support of Abuja with free arms and logistics support from islamists in the Sahel and Arab world. Their ultimate aim is to islamize Nigeria. Nigeria brought the civil war to Biafran soil and our economy was completely destroyed. Is that what you want for the South?

proeast:
Are you waiting for them to bring the war to your home before you react? Believe me these guys have covert support of Abuja with free arms and logistics support from islamists in the Sahel and Arab world. Their ultimate aim is to islamize Nigeria. Nigeria brought the civil war to Biafran soil and our economy was completely destroyed. Is that what you want for the South?

Yes, if you take war to people home, it means you're a terrorist. And we are not terrorists.
Trust me we are ready for them.

tonye33:
we the southerners are waiting for them. Let them come

Okay, I just hope so too. Because you don't need a soothsayer to know that South is in the agenda of the terrorist occupying aso Rock, he is only waiting to return in 2019 whether by hook or crook and boom you will see the front shifted from the middle belt down south. They have already tested the waters with Enugu and Ebonyi but when it was visited with massive outcry, they shifted westwards. I don't know where those arms that were seized at the Apapa port were headed to but I want to believe that our people are doing the needful just in case.

troublemakea:
they cant and it's isn't needed cause the state of emergency would only make matters worst as the deployment would only assist the herdsmen further

How is that?

Yes they are illegal. The concept of armed vigilante is alien to our constitution. Any vigilante that bears arm is illegal. I have given you instance that the Benue livestock guards were disarmed by the army.
The Benue issue is already heavily publicised. The herdsmen are bent on open grazing in the Benue Valley. Any attempt by Benue state govt to arm a vigilante will be resisted by the armed forces.

obailala:
So in essence, are you saying all vigilantes bearing pump action and other types of non-automatic weapons around the country are illegal?

Im not understanding your point..Vigilantes are vigilantes and police is police; why are you mixing the two?

enlady:
Yes they are illegal. The concept of armed vigilante is alien to our constitution. Any vigilante that bears arm is illegal. I have given you instance that the Benue livestock guards were disarmed by the army.
The Benue issue is already heavily publicised. The herdsmen are bent on open grazing in the Benue Valley. Any attempt by Benue state govt to arm a vigilante will be resisted by the armed forces.

So in essence, there no such thing as owning a 'licensed' firearm in Nigeria?... Every individual who isnt a member of an armed force must dispose their firearms?....

Last time I checked, it was illegal to own an unlicensed firearm in Nigeria but if yours is licensed, then you are fine. The recent story I heard was of the IG ordering a nationwide mop up of illegal/unlicensed firearms. Except you are saying the constitution has been changed recently, else, your claim is incorrect. Go back and check your sources again.

5thElement:
How is that?

the current cat race operation.....how has it helped?

Let's sit tight and watch oooooo

troublemakea:
the current cat race operation.....how has it helped?

I'm quite sure you don't know the difference between a military operation/curfew and a state of emergency.

5thElement:
I'm quite sure you don't know the difference between a military operation/curfew and a state of emergency.

oga forget that struv.....if you like call for benue state to be invaded by every millitary men in Nigeria but fact is buhari is fulani and he still being the PON the fight against herdsmen can never be sincere

or u wana say you don't read topics on NL on how soilders even help herdsmen

Why are you trying to change the goal post? What sources? Everything I wrote is in public domain

(1) You said the Benue state should arm a vigilante group to defend the people. I told you one has been set up by the Benue gov but the army and police has arrested it members. The police has also commenced mop up of firearms used by Rivers state vigilante (neighborhood watch) set up by Wike.
https://www.blueprint.ng/army-arrests-9-militia-men-linked-to-benue-govt/
http://www.tribuneonlineng.com/benue-killings-arrest-militia-members-pre-planned-military-aliyu-tershaku-coordinator-livestock-guards/
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2018/03/police-order-nationwide-mop-illegal-arms-1/

(2) Go and read the firearms act (1990). There is no provision for individual license to bear guns such as AK47. The president can issue a proclamation at any time to mop up both licensed and unlicensed firearms. Go and study the law
You have seen the level of carnage in Benue, how do you expect a vigilante armed with light weapons to repel the herdsmen attacks?
A deadly militant group has killed over 100 persons in less than a week and you are advocating for a vigilante to confront them?

Your support for PMB should not rob you of objective reasoning. A true patriot is one that owes loyalty to his country not to an individual, ideology or political party.
I would no longer respond to you.

obailala:
So in essence, there no such thing as owning a 'licensed' firearm in Nigeria?... Every individual who isnt a member of an armed force must dispose their firearms?....

Last time I checked, it was illegal to own an unlicensed firearm in Nigeria but if yours is licensed, then you are fine. The recent story I heard was of the IG ordering a nationwide mop up of illegal/unlicensed firearms. Except you are saying the constitution has been changed recently, else, your claim is incorrect. Go back and check your sources again.

Hmmm

Saintp:
The idea is to capture those lands. They will keep killing them till the leave permanently and then they will establish themselves there. This is why apart from killing, they also burn houses. Right now, some villages in Benue are already getting deserted. I know of people who have relocated their families to Lagos so that they can stay alive.

Make no mistake, both buhari and his Fulani security chiefs are part of this plan. If you doubt it, why is IG of police still not fired after "disobeying" the president order? Where is Burutai?

They all know what they are doing and that is why all Buhari's security chiefs are from the North so that they can look the other way while their foot soldiers carry out the plan for their people. It is just unfortunate. But then, one thing people fail to realize is that one day the table will turn and the hunter will become the hunted, it is a matter of time.

I believe the herdsmen issue is a greater reason to impeach the president.
But since it is hard to prove that he breached any constitutional dictates there (apart from being crassly incompetent) I think the NASS have chosen to use a constitutional breach that can be clearly identified as committed, as reason for pursuing his impeachment