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| Re: There Is No Existence Of Witchcraft Or Money Ritual, See Proof by budaatum: 4:47pm On May 03, 2018 |
OranmiyanOdede:What I presume to be, just so you know, is that the bible was written by human beings, and not by any god. Gods wouldn't make the errors and contradictions inherent in the bible, and they sure would have limited the ambiguity. One can make the Bible godly though, by understanding what is meant therein. Unfortunately, many take their understanding from others and disregard the holy spirit that their God breathed into them when they were created. One sees the effect of this thinking when the fool is separated from his 'wealth'. They think they are Adamite, but in reality, they have not evolved past the mud that was said to have been used in their creation. And no, I am not a 'Christian', for they tend to believe just about as much as so called devils too believe and hence cower in fear, while I have all that I require and so can walk in the valley of the shadow of death, bravely. |
| Re: There Is No Existence Of Witchcraft Or Money Ritual, See Proof by paxonel(m): 5:12pm On May 03, 2018 |
OranmiyanOdede:Jesus in mark 16:17 never had today modern christians in mind when he made that statement that's what you should know. He was strickly referring to what will happen in the days of acts of the apostles which have already happened a long time ago. Infact, today christians should see what happened in the days of act of the apostles as the days of ignorance just like how the apostles saw what happened in the days of old testament as the days of ignorance. Act 17:30 As mankind is evolving from one era to another there is increase in knowledge and understanding and our current era should have the highest level of understanding. So, if you have your brain, think and understand what I'm saying. Miracles was trendy in those days because the people were ignorant. Love is what should be trendy this modern day because by knowledge and understanding love is far greater than miracles. I'm not saying christians cannot perform miracles this days but it is strictly at God's will. If God want it you will see a christian doing miracle. If God does not want it, no matter how the christian tries he will fail. And when he fails like that, the next thing he will resolve to doing miracle arrangement and scamming people like what Nigerian pastors are doing. Now, do God want witches, and juju and blood money and rituals? I don't think so! Therefore things like that do not exist anymore and any pastor saying he is conducting deliverance is a big scam this modern day. |
| Re: There Is No Existence Of Witchcraft Or Money Ritual, See Proof by Primesky(m): 5:25pm On May 03, 2018 |
sKeetz:The Bible is enough evidence. The one doing the saving has given us what He wants, do you give Him conditions?. Are our lives on earth itself not enough evidence to show you we need help?. Should I begin to sleep around because I haven't had STDs and infection?, and begin to doubt it?. Why I haven't seen hell or heaven personaly, I have seen persons, not one or two, from around the world who have detailed their personal experiences. These persons by the way are not connected physically or relatated, yet their accounts are strikingly similar, and in agreement with what the bible says. By the way, seeing heaven or hell is not the issue, the issue is believing God's word. Man says seeing is believing, God says blessed are they who haven't seen, yet believe. If anybody have issues with that, let them deal with it. With God, it's either faith, or nothing. John 20:29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed. If you want to understand spiritual things, you will have to first have an understanding of physical things, because the physical world we are in, is a mere shadow of what is out there in the spiritual realm. Everything here is structured following spiritual order. If a man commits a crime here, we are certainly sure he will do the time. If the time is forever, what becomes of that man, assuming he will never die, which is the case in the spiritual realm?. Such a person is doomed!. With that in mind, you now have a saviour who is offering to do the time for you, will you begin to ask Him conditions, signs, and evidences, when He has truly committed Himself? Wouldn't you grab such opportunity with both hands, knowing it's not perpetually open?. I guess the question we need to ask and answer is, do we know and agree that we have sinned and trespassed God's laws?., do you know such trespass attract punishment?. A sincere fellow will own up. Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; The next question is, can you do the time, serve the punishment?. We certainly can't, because it's eternal death. However, the one who says no, and posit to have done no wrong, will have no reason to accept salvation, but that's a complete lie. We all have done wrong and we all need a saviour in this case. The opinion of anybody, doesn't matter. Even though you're entitled to it. Jesus saves. |
| Re: There Is No Existence Of Witchcraft Or Money Ritual, See Proof by sKeetz(m): 5:55pm On May 03, 2018 |
Primesky:the problem is that the bible is not enough proof for the existence of an afterlife in both heaven and hell. Every religion has a book which it claims to contain spiritual truth but there are no tested and trusted way to know which of this books is actually the truth. So your job of evangelism is incomplete if you cant convince unbelievers like me about the existence of hell and heaven without mentioning the bible. We need empirical evidence. This shouldnt be rocket science for an omnipotent god. 3 Likes |
| Re: There Is No Existence Of Witchcraft Or Money Ritual, See Proof by Ronpet777(m): 7:49pm On May 03, 2018 |
paxonel:I really doubt if u are a Bible believing Christian. U speak so vaguely. Bible says "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but spiritual wickedness in high places" |
| Re: There Is No Existence Of Witchcraft Or Money Ritual, See Proof by Ronpet777(m): 8:15pm On May 03, 2018 |
paxonel:U don't think so? How do u mean that. So u speak so emphatically based on ur thought without any proof or biblical backup. How shallow of u? Say that to little kids at home not adults who hv read wide and only conclude based on knowledge through research and experience! |
| Re: There Is No Existence Of Witchcraft Or Money Ritual, See Proof by hopefulLandlord: 9:04pm On May 03, 2018 |
For Christians and Muslims. witches and wizard's existence is absolutely necessary, a must and and not even negotiable. Without all these powers Christianity in Nigeria would lose its power so its a façade used to maintain the illusion that Christianity is true Imaginary friends require imaginary enemies to make sense otherwise the friend becomes useless and powerless. Watch any superhero movie and you'd notice a supervillain would battle with the hero, that's because its the only way the movie can make sense to the viewers. Nobody wants to see a Superman fighting an agbero at the bus stop, we want to see him fight another powerful nonexistent extraterrestrial superpower! Go to MFM and see how they use prayers to kill witches, come next week they'll still kill the same witches they killed yesterday with the same prayer or a slightly different one with the same end goal in mind If you're not succeeding in life it must be spiritual so you need to come to church and pray against those witches tying down your destiny. If this is how Ray Croc thought he would've died in church praying against his enemies as he failed many times before investors eventually bought into his idea. Albert Einstein didn't start to speak until he was four years old, didn't start to read until he was seven and was regarded to be mentally handicapped but now regarded to be one of the most intelligent man ever. If his parents and he were Nigerian Christians they would've spent the rest of their lives fighting the witches and wizards responsible for Albert's lack of intelligence We are too intellectually lazy so we go for the easiest of explanation not bothering to ask if that explanation if valid or not because its so easy to understand. we see life as age, like its linear and straightforward whereas life is like a goddamn computer code you need to check were the failure of the program to run is coming from. maybe you missed a code or you switched one for the other so you debug and debug infact you could spend months debugging a code you spent hours writing. But instead our religious organizations tell us the program isn't running properly cuz of witches and wizards. this appeals to our ego as we have such a ridiculously high opinion of our abilities that we think whatever is preventing the program from running properly couldn't be due to our own faults but something outside us. Nobody wants to hear "Are you sure you took proper books about your failed business? are you sure employees weren't stealing from you? are you sure you reinvested money back into the company?" These questions look like they're trying to say you're culpable for the collapse of the business and makes you uncomfortable so you go to church and they don't tell you what you don't want to hear, they see vision and tell you some demons witches and wizards are the entities behind your business collapsing Believing them leads to a loop in which you start another business, fail and go for more prayers whereas what made the new business fail might've been prevented IF you intelligently studied why the previous business failed but since you've put the blame on invisible entities then you'll keep failing and blaming invisible entities 3 Likes |
| Re: There Is No Existence Of Witchcraft Or Money Ritual, See Proof by Primesky(m): 11:36pm On May 03, 2018 |
sKeetz:If you depend on signs to deside which is which, then I can tell you that, you will likely miss it. We have an enemy who is hell bent on making sure we (humanity) perish. This malevolent fellow, is smart, intelligent and cunning. He has been around even before the creation of man, and as such knows more than man. I will never try to argue with him without the guidance of the Holy Spirit. I may not be able to win him with mere human wisdom. His strength is in reasoning and arguments. But my strength is in faith. He seeks to fight on the turf of reasoning, outside faith, but I will maintain my position on my turf, faith. We have so many religion today because of this bad fellow. He has been convincing many with all manner of proofs and lieing evidences. But the bible tells us, that the only way to decipher this bad guy and his colleagues, is by their fruits. So, again he begins to infiltrate Christianity as well, so that people will have no firm grip of it. Why do we have so many varing and divergent creed and groups?, it's deception!. The devil has placed so much land mines on humanity's way in order to make it difficult for it (humanity) to identify the truth. The one evidence I have for you is that, the founder of all other religions are dead and buried, but Jesus Christ died, and rose again just as He said, and He still lives, and He will still come back just as He promised. Though Islam denies His death, but Islam affirms His coming back. If that be the case, the question will be, who is this person who continues to live after thousands of years ago, that will still come back again to save. Again, Koran directs it's adherants, to search for the answers in the Bible, that gives you a clue as well. The whole thing then, is like an objective type question, in which you will be given multiple choice to choose from of which only one is correct. By their fruit, you shall know them. Of all the other religion, which did you hear or read that the founder gave his/her life for the adherants?. That's another clue. The bible is God's word. If you don't accept it, then is nobody's fault, but yours. Your salvation is to your own profit. Jesus Christ is the way. |
| Re: There Is No Existence Of Witchcraft Or Money Ritual, See Proof by sKeetz(m): 11:51pm On May 03, 2018 |
Primesky:You've not answered the question but I didn't expect you to cause obviously, there are no answers to the questions. I asked you not to use the bible as a point of reference but you just couldn't help it. The bible is a great work of literature no doubt but that's just it. It has its own share of myths, contradictions and exaggerations. It's very ridiculous that you think a Jewish carpenter died for you: a black man from Africa and you believe its true because a book which was written aeons ago said so. Your whole believe is centered on this book and nothing more. why do you believe so much in this book written by illiterate middle eastern nomads despite the numerous contradictions and evil exploits by Yahweh? What makes the bible stand out? 2 Likes |
| Re: There Is No Existence Of Witchcraft Or Money Ritual, See Proof by paxonel(m): 6:21am On May 04, 2018 |
Ronpet777:the adults you are talking about are yet to proof anywhere in the scriptures where deliverance of witchcraft or evil spirit or juju was conducted on any christian or believer of Christ in bible days. On the contrary to their opinion of a christian being inflicted by evil spirit on which they ignorantly and fraudulently conduct deliverance in their churches 1 John 4:2 says Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: All these people they are conducting deliverance on, in their churches, they have all believed that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh, no one of them doubted. They are all christians by birth who may have switched from another churches to attend programs in churches conducting these fake deliverance thinking that they are inflicted with evil spirit meanwhile they are not. Non of them are Muslims or some kind of other religion. So the adults you are talking about don't know what they are doing. I'm very sure they don't read at all, so flee from them |
| Re: There Is No Existence Of Witchcraft Or Money Ritual, See Proof by paxonel(m): 6:46am On May 04, 2018 |
Ronpet777:you are quoting a scripture you are not looking at why the scripture was written. You did not bother to read further, you just pick the area of your interest and assume that the scripture is saying that christians should fight evil spirits It's not like that o. If you read further Ephesians 6:14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; 15. And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; So the reason why the scripture was written is for christians to have righteousness and preach the gospel of peace, and not for christians to fight demons which were already been defeated by Christ. Principalities and powers, rulers of high places and low places refers to the Jews who persecuted Christians who preach the gospel of peace, not any demons or evil spirits. So you see the extent to which you people are being deceived to become demon fighters that do not exist in the real sense? |
| Re: There Is No Existence Of Witchcraft Or Money Ritual, See Proof by Ronpet777(m): 7:25am On May 04, 2018 |
paxonel:My brother, u r speaking heresy with confidence and it baffles me. Tell me where Jesus explained that we will never hv to cast out demons again especially in our generation. Do u knw even after Jesus' death, Paul still hard to cast out demons?(Acts 16:16-18). U hv coined d Bible so well that it suits ur ideology. I don't blame u, u said it urself that u don't really go to church, no wonder u r misdirected and u read d Bible with zero insight. Demons r real and will always be. U must be very shallow not to be sensitive in spirit to ignore this idea. I don't knw how old u r but to speak like this makes me really think I am conversing with a teenager. Life experience as a Christian reveal a whole lot to us and makes us spiritually alert to the whims and caprices of the devil and his cohorts. |
| Re: There Is No Existence Of Witchcraft Or Money Ritual, See Proof by Ronpet777(m): 7:28am On May 04, 2018 |
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| Re: There Is No Existence Of Witchcraft Or Money Ritual, See Proof by Ronpet777(m): 7:41am On May 04, 2018 |
paxonel:Just look at u. U left d spiritual wickedness in high places part out of it. I am sure it must hv been written there by mistake according to u. U r very far astray, lost in ur own conjectures that suit ur crave for trivialities. |
| Re: There Is No Existence Of Witchcraft Or Money Ritual, See Proof by paxonel(m): 8:35am On May 04, 2018 |
Ronpet777:it does not really matter whether i included spiritual wickedness or not. Follow the story behind everything you will understand what that scripture is driving at. The bottom-line of the story is that there was persecution of christians by the Jews in those days. That act of persecuting christians on it's own is spiritual wickedness. Spiritual in the sense that the killings has to do with one faith known as Judaism(religion of the Jews) perpertrating injustice to another faith known as christianity because christians or believers were very few as at that time. Such killings or injustice was seen as spiritual wickedness. It has nothing to do with spirits or demons attacking people. Sometimes the way bible is written, it's like a figurative language that requires thinking to understand what the scripture is driving at. So, understand the story behind it first by reading the whole chapter, if possible start from previous chapters. |
| Re: There Is No Existence Of Witchcraft Or Money Ritual, See Proof by TrajansKong: 8:38am On May 04, 2018 |
Ronpet777:Your life sounds just awful. Seeing demons, spirits and juju everywhere. If you believe in Satan and Hell, you are already IN Hell!!  |
| Re: There Is No Existence Of Witchcraft Or Money Ritual, See Proof by Ronpet777(m): 8:42am On May 04, 2018 |
TrajansKong:U r myopic and don't blame u sir. Time will tell what u knw. It's a pity u might not come here to rescind ur words . |
| Re: There Is No Existence Of Witchcraft Or Money Ritual, See Proof by Ronpet777(m): 8:49am On May 04, 2018 |
paxonel:Bro, ur case is different. U view things in a very distorted way. I don't need to change ur perception. It is obvious that u hold it strong. Good luck on that!I hv come to knw that arguments on NL doesn't change anything about pple. U hv perfectly metamorphose the word spiritual. Well done. |
| Re: There Is No Existence Of Witchcraft Or Money Ritual, See Proof by paxonel(m): 8:57am On May 04, 2018 |
Ronpet777:did you ever care to know whether the person Paul casted demon from, whether he was a christian or not? I don't think so! You have never bothered to find out that one. But incase you don't know, the same lady was serving a master who was a Roman, that means she was from Rome too, and Romans in those days were idolatory worshippers, They were never christians . Acts 16:21 And teach customs, which are not lawful for us to receive, neither to observe, being ROMANS I ask the question again, show me anywhere in the new testament were demons or witches were casted out from any christian?? Non of your pastors or you will never see the answer to that question. Demons r real and will always be. U must be very shallow not to be sensitive in spirit to ignore this idea. I don't knw how old u r but to speak like this makes me really think I am conversing with a teenager. Life experience as a Christian reveal a whole lot to us and makes us spiritmay be your experiences are hallucinating effects of your minds, they are not in accordance with the scriptures at all |
| Re: There Is No Existence Of Witchcraft Or Money Ritual, See Proof by paxonel(m): 9:17am On May 04, 2018 |
Ronpet777:you don't understand! You think white men thinks the way Africans thinks? They think differently! They brought christianity to Africa but Africans were not able to think like them because of their their foolish traditional beliefs of witchcrafts and demons hunting people in real life. U view things in a very distorted way.why was Christ killed? He was killed because he viewed things in a distorted way. If several beliefs of Africans are not distorted seriously Africans will continue to remain backward it's as simple as that. And you know that beliefs of Africans are tied to religion and tradition. I don't need to change ur perception. It is obvious that u hold it strong.you see good thing nor hold am strong first, you will only die in ignorance in this Africa. 1 Like |
| Re: There Is No Existence Of Witchcraft Or Money Ritual, See Proof by Ronpet777(m): 9:22am On May 04, 2018 |
paxonel:1 Timothy4:1-2 reads ' The spirit says clearly that some people will abandon the faith in LATER TIMES: They will obey lying spirits and follow the teachings of demons.' 2 Corinthians 2:11 reads 'In other to keep Satan from getting the upper hand over us:for we knw what his plans are. ' Matt 12:43-45 reads 'When an evil spirit goes out of a person, it travels over dry country looking for a place to rest. If it can't find one, 44,it says to itself, 'I will go back to my house.'So it goes back and finds the house empty, clean and all fixed up. 45, Then it goes out and bring along seven other spirits even worse than itself,and they come and they come and live there... ' I doubt if these scriptures r in ur Bible. All these r new testaments and they warn about demons and how to steer clear of them. My point, demons and witches r real. God didn't want us to be ignorant of the devices of the devil. Not that we celebrate these things but we knw they exist and make conscious effort to stay under the canopy of the most high. |
| Re: There Is No Existence Of Witchcraft Or Money Ritual, See Proof by paxonel(m): 9:41am On May 04, 2018 |
Ronpet777:non of the scriptures you put up here have answered the question I asked. Show me a scripture which shows that someone who believed in Christ after Jesus resurrected had demons or evil spirit, and the demon was casted out. You cannot! Therefore, the bible cannot contradict itself. And your pastors who are conducting deliverance for christians are all scam. You don't know this country called Nigeria |
| Re: There Is No Existence Of Witchcraft Or Money Ritual, See Proof by Primesky(m): 9:46am On May 04, 2018 |
sKeetz:God forbid! Only the devil will ask a Christian to leave his Bible, the Word of God, to say what exactly?. My dear, don't buy that lie of the devil. This is the same problem Jesus had with the pharesses, they where asking Him for signs and evidence, but He (Jesus) constantly referred them to the word of God. Because, they didn't get it the way they wanted, they didn't believe in Him. But who lost out, of cause the pharesses!, because, Jesus fulfilled His mission. While you like the pharesses are looking for signs, many persons are being saved. What excuse do you have then? Because everything is in the bible. You and I need help, and someone comes to help you, rather than take the help seeing you're lost and helpless, you rather chose to ask for the helper's, bank account, his tribe and ancestries and occupation, do you expect to be taken seriously?. The diligent will get all the proofs in the word of God. Anything else is suspect. I don't think you know the magnitude of deception you are exposed to by depending on signs as a condition to believe in Jesus Christ. Because, mark it, you will get signs aplenty until you become confused. My prayer for you is that God will by His grace open your eyes and draw you to Himself personally. Don't assume to be too wise by arguments. Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, 1 Corinthians 1:20 Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world? 1 Corinthians 3:18 Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise. 1 Corinthians 3:19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness. Anything outside of the Word of God, cannot be authentic. From the beginning, the devil has always tried to alienate humanity from God's word, success in this will make it easier for him to deceive. Therefore, I will not ascede to that request sir. Jesus Christ is the way still. 1 Like |
| Re: There Is No Existence Of Witchcraft Or Money Ritual, See Proof by Ronpet777(m): 9:52am On May 04, 2018 |
paxonel:Maybe I need to ask you again. What is d topic we are all commenting on and wot exactly r u talking about  U seem very confused to me.U said demons don't exist again in our generation and that Jesus conquered them all. I am putting it to u that Jesus only assured us that if we stay in him, they will hv no power over us. Not because they don't exist, as u must hv read in d scriptures I quoted, they exist and always work to pull Christians down, but once we rely on the power of Jesus and walk in his ways, they will be powerless over us. I can't remember arguing with u over Christian deliverance from demon or not so stop digressing unnecessarily. |
| Re: There Is No Existence Of Witchcraft Or Money Ritual, See Proof by paxonel(m): 11:25am On May 04, 2018 |
Ronpet777:what do you mean by demons always work to pull christians down? Are you referring to some spiritual attack or some natural failures which can be experienced by anyone? If you are referring to some spiritual attack then you are equally canvassing church deliverance for christians which is not scriptural. But if your phrase demons pulling down christians refers to the natural failures experienced by christians in their day to day lives, then you have agreed with Christ assurance that demons don't have power over us when we stay with him, that it is actually not demons pulling them down that they are the ones pulling themselves down. No wahalla. As for me, Christ saying demons don't have power over us is till the same thing as they don't exist anymore, because whether they still exist somewhere they are meaningless as they do not exist |
| Re: There Is No Existence Of Witchcraft Or Money Ritual, See Proof by Ronpet777(m): 1:03pm On May 04, 2018 |
paxonel:I love it when u say words like 'as for me'. They do exist believe me and they torment Christians. U r right when u said Christ has overcome them but wrong when u said they can't come close. Now Wot do I mean, by saying Christ overcame them only simply means He has given us every equipment to be above them. We hv His name, the blood and His word. We r armed against them, but we need to put on d whole armour so that we can combat then I'm our daily lives. If a born again Christian is weak in his relationship with God, do u knw that demons can creep into his life and make him sin onto God then begin to go astray from God's path? In fact, we r their target. The Kingdom of darkness toil day and night to ensure that believers r won over to them. That is why ur teaching is misleading. As Christians, we must stay always guarded. Praying always not against demons but just to keep constant communication with God. For if God be for us, tell me who can be against us? But if we derail, demons will come with supersonic speed to steal our joy and plant their deceit in us. Deliverance or not, demons r real and they exist, ours is to keep our relationship with God and they will remain impotent in attacking and getting close to us. Stop saying they don't exist. It is very erroneous for a believer to say. |
| Re: There Is No Existence Of Witchcraft Or Money Ritual, See Proof by paxonel(m): 3:59pm On May 04, 2018 |
Ronpet777:everyone commit sin christians and non christians alike, are you telling me that because everyone commit sin therefore everyone are under demonic attack? You also say that christians are the main target. Does that mean that christians commit sin more than any other people? Your theory or belief that when we commit sin it is amount to demonic attack is assumption. If you say so, certainly you are saying that everyone are under demonic attack |
| Re: There Is No Existence Of Witchcraft Or Money Ritual, See Proof by Ronpet777(m): 8:19pm On May 04, 2018 |
paxonel:I wudnt particularly say that. The Bible says d thief comet but to kill, to steal, and to destroy...The controller of this world for now till Jesus' comes is d devil, and he is working hard to pull people down into sin. Everyone who is into sin willfully without repentance will hv demons feasting on his heart. Pls read within ur comment that I quoted. Some of my responds r within it. I am not an expert yet on NL so I cudnt make it different from ur own comment. |
| Re: There Is No Existence Of Witchcraft Or Money Ritual, See Proof by paxonel(m): 7:08am On May 05, 2018 |
Ronpet777:this your analogy do not follow at all. It's true that when a human barks like a dog it is not normal, but saying that when a christian commit sin it weakens whatever he enjoys in Christ is very wrong . In the first place, Christ did not die for christians to have immunity against sin, talkless of the immunity becoming weakened by sin and exposes the christian to attacks of demons. It is never scriptural, like i said they are all assumptions. Whoever tells you that is a big lair . Christ came to die, strickly to give humans eternal life. John 3:16. What I'm saying is that Christ dying on the cross to bring salvation has nothing to do with whether we commit sin on this earth and face the consequences or not,There is no connectivity there. So, if a christian commit sin there is nothing the blood of Christ can do about it, he must face the consequences of his action just like anyone else,there is no immunity, God is not that bias. Now, I ask the question again! Since we all commit sin(knowingly or unknowingly) because we are mere humans and we are facing the consequences of our actions, Does that mean we are under demon attacks ? My answer to that question is no! Nobody is under any demon attack! We are only facing the consequences of our actions right or wrong. Therefore, demons do not exist! Witches okpe!!! there is nothing like that Juju Blood money Rituals They are all traditional fictions, they do not exist |
| Re: There Is No Existence Of Witchcraft Or Money Ritual, See Proof by Ronpet777(m): 8:04am On May 05, 2018 |
paxonel:Hahahahahahahaha! U missed d big part. Not everything will wait till judgement day. I wasn't talking abt God being unfair or bias. My point is that there is full force attack on the believers by demons and their cohorts here on earth when we derail from God's path. My friend, let's not over flog this. I can see u study d Bible on ur own without any spiritual interpretation. The Bible is like literature to u. If not, u will knw that every believer is on a warfare on earth from forces of evil and demons. Being in Christ is our immunity. I will conclude this argument with these verses from the Bible. Let anyone with basic interpretation skill interpret it and see Wot d Bible is saying about spiritual attacks that abound on earth for any believer who doesn't stand firm, and hold strong to his faith through righteousness and prayers. Ephesians 6:10-18 'Finally, build up your strength in union with the Lord and by means of his mighty power. 11) Put on all the armour that God give you, so that you will be able to stand up AGAINST THE DEVIL'S EVIL TRICKS. 12) For we are not fighting against human beings but against the wicked SPIRITUAL forces in the heavenly world, the rulers, authorities, and cosmic powers of this dark age. 13) So put on God's armour now! Then when the evil day cones, you will be bale to resist the enemy's attacks: and after fighting to the end, you will still hold your ground. 14) So stand ready with truth as a belt tight around ur waist, with righteousness as your breastplate, 15) and as ur shoes the readiness to announce the Good News of peace. 16) At all times carry faith as a shield : for with it you will be able to put out the burning arrows shot by the EVIL ONE. 17) And accept salvation as an helmet, and the word of God as the sword which the spirit gives you. 18) Do all this in prayer, asking for God's help. Pray on every occasion, as the spirit leads. For this reason keep alert and never give up:pray always for God's people. If after these, u still don't believe the world is a battle ground ,and that we must take conscious steps to put on the whole armour in order to combat the evil forces, brother, u r on ur own. And I will doubt if u r a true Christian. I rest my case finally! Emmanystone, come see a fellow believers' ideology o. Wot do u see to this o. |
| Re: There Is No Existence Of Witchcraft Or Money Ritual, See Proof by 1stSonOfLucifer(m): 9:17am On May 05, 2018 |
hopefulLandlord:This makes a lot of sense |
| Re: There Is No Existence Of Witchcraft Or Money Ritual, See Proof by paxonel(m): 2:35pm On May 05, 2018 |
Ronpet777:bring scriptures for this let's see, don't just assume Ephesians 6:10-18 'Finally, build up your strength in union with the Lord and by means of his mighty power.do this scripture mention demon attacking christians? You Africans are so myopic in understanding,just making me at laugh the level of your ignorance Simple parable you can't understand 11) Put on all the armour that God give you, so that you will be able to stand up AGAINST THE DEVIL'S EVIL TRICKS.what are the devil's evil trick here? Read from verse one! It talked about disobedience to parents by children, disobedience to masters by slaves, masters not threating their slaves right. All these are the trick of the devil. In other words, human actions are the tricks of the devil By extension, humans are the devil himself it's as simple as that 12) For we are not fighting against human beings but against the wicked SPIRITUAL forces in the heavenly world, the rulers, authorities, and cosmic powers of this dark age.in practical, catch a thief that invaded your house and let him go, saying he was controlled by wicked spiritual forces and authorities of cosmic powers let's see how foolish you are simply because you read this scripture Can't you understand simple parable? There is nothing spiritual about the wicked spiritual forces used here. It all portray evil actions of humans like disobedience of parents, slaves being disobedient to masters, masters not treating their slaves right as mentioned in previous verses We are are not fighting against humans, we are fighting to control our conscience. 2 cor 10:4 says for the weapon of our warfare is not canal... 10:5 Casting down imaginations and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ; So, it takes the knowledge of God to fight and control our conscience and thoughts that will make us disobedience people. It is nothing spiritual The scripture did not refer to external fight with devils It refers to internal fight because sometimes we might be the devil troubling ourselves. And if you are the type that is waiting for the end of the world to see judgement day, you are just joking. Judgement is now, This world remains forever, God's kingdom is already here with us, so you better start living your life to the fullest. Christ has restored back the glory Adam and eve lost when they sinned. Right now, everything about us is good just like how he created Adam and eve from the beginning. No demon! No evil spirit, no juju, no witchcraft . All power has been given to you. If you succeed, it is your doing. If you fail, it is your fault |
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