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BabaRamota1980:
When early writers of Bini talk about the kingdom controlling its neighbours they talk about its neighbours to the East. The Urhobo, Esan, Isoko, Western Ibos and so on.

So if Ekaladeran escaped, he did so heading East. Ekaladheran is Edo, not Bini. Therefore his settlement and descendants will exist as a proto Edo society, with zero Yoruba nature or customs.

The quicker you find ekaladheran the easier for you to see, and be able to deal with the knowledge that you were scammed by your people.
i love this good reply ..this people are deluded ...i'm waiting for Nigeria to breakup and they are merged with the ibos ..

Moorish:
Urhobo is more relevant than Benin today, in Nigeria

And those guys used to be under Benin

Benin people live in a nostalgic past which they can never re-create

While other cultures keep growing and surpassing them

Moneywomen17:
there is no Benin ada any ada found in Yoruba hand is Yoruba. Moremi was alive in the 12 century and there is a bead around her neck. As far as am concerned there is no bead made by Benin u bought it from Portuguese but Yoruba also made bead and bought it too. Yoruba has been making bead no be today unlike u only got it when u met the Portuguese.

Wealthandjobs:
I am sure you don't know the meaning and it's significance.
That's where the heads of past Oba of Benin were buried sir. The place is one of the special and ancient places in Ile Ife.
That's one of the reasons the descendants of the Oranmiyan keep going to Ife sir.Any descendant of Oranmiyan sitting on that Oba of Benin stool who doesn't go to Ife has not concluded it's rite. The Benin Royalty is Yoruba and that's why Oba of Benin must go to Ile Ife , the Source.
Those Yoruba ancestors are very smart.They gave Benin people the body not the heads of the descendants of Oranmiyan

odigbosky:
So i have been seeing a particular picture of the supposed burial sites of all Benin kings. Well lets try and be logical here. Over here in the South, we all know that the burial site of kings are kept secret even from family members. Some princes don't even have any idea where it is. I remember an Oghara Prince telling us that his father coprse had been beheaded and he doesnt even know the burial site. He is not suppose to even know at all. This is among the Uhrobos of Delta state. If we are to go by the fact the Ooni say Oba Ado is his son, is it not a let down that he shows commoners the burial place of one of his greatest sons. How many Ife indigines know the burial sites of all dead Oonis? if the Ooni has a burial site for Oba Ado as been showed here, it means the Ooni should have similar site for the Aalafin of Oyo and his other sons. Can the Ooni show us these sites also? if these other sons of Oduduwa dont have burial sites in Ife, why does Oba Ado has? and if they do and we cant see them, why then can we see that of Oba Ado? Secrecy is one of the features of kingship and lots of it matters.

All dead Obas of Benin are buried here in Ogbe but no one knows the exact location. No Bini man can come out to tell you, they dont even know it. I will give you some exeptions to these rule
1. Oba Omonoyan (oronmiyan) He did not die in Benin,he died in the yorubalands where he was born.
2. Oba Ewuare the Great was bureid at his mother village at Esi near Udo. He requested this himself
3. Oba Ehengbuda, He died by drowning in the coastal waters of Lagos.
4. Oba Ovonramwen, he died and was buried in Calabar.

Speaking of Oba Ovonramwen, i have tried searching for pictures of his burial site or grave in calabar i have not really seen any. Maybe if i visit calabar i will have the opportunity of seeing it, but if there is none, i will be dissapointed because if the Efiks of Calabar that are far away can at least show courtsey in keeping the burial site of a king from distant kingdom secret, i wonder why a father would choose to change the burial site of one of his sons to a public spectacle.


Below is the picture of the Burial site of Queen Bilikisu Sungbo of Oke-eri in Ogun state. Compare this to the supposed burial site or resting place for Kings of the great benin kingdom who they rank as 3rd in the list of yoruba kings.


Now see the original picture of the supposed burial site of Kings of Benin before it was even painted. you have a drainage running through. see dirty everywhere....i consider this an insult and a stain to the name Benin.

gregyboy:
Show me d pple who made d beeeds how was it made....and i will show u d pple who made d benin artefact at igun in Benin outside this yoruba boy....go sit down ...ure just lying

Obalufon:
Yoruba vast in fiber glass beads making lot of different colors from rocks special stone found naturally .it will heated at high temperature to melt and mould into beads inform of glass making we were making Awo |"dish" even before the importation of china porcelain dish with fiber glass for rituals

BabaRamota1980:


Just getting back from ban...this thread has advanced.

Has Edo answered on the questions of foreign influence in their monarchy...or are they still trying to find Ekalderhan the lost Idogomigodo legend?

BabaRamota1980:


Just getting back from ban...this thread has advanced.

Has Edo answered on the questions of foreign influence in their monarchy...or are they still trying to find Ekalderhan the lost Idogomigodo legend?

gregyboy:
Those are stories with no prove to it...i could come and say benin made areoplanes before the white taught about it ....with no prove mere than words

Obalufon:
From river Niger to upper Volta river ..The ruler of River Niger to upper Volta river in togo Alafin prides himself on that fact ..is a written record documented by scholars in African history. Oyo was an Empire ..Oyo crushed ashanti army in atakpeme togo ..Do you read history books ..To the north Oyo ruled Bida bariba even nupe they were under his tributaries go to Niger state they still speak Yoruba fluently Hausa were used as slaves in Oyo ..southern west region Dahomey ,ewe,fon allada ketou badagry , Togo were ruled by Oyo alafin Aktapeme were all under great Oyo empire...Oyo empire didn't encompass all Yoruba speaking region of Nigeria... Oyo empire moved far west than stay in south west region of NIGERIA..Benin ruled much of Ondo and Ekiti not by war "NOT BY CONQUEST BY THE FACT OF HISTORICAL LINEAGE OF ODUDUWA L .. Most monarch in ondo has lineage from Benin up to Lagos ..land of the aworis they made prince Ado OF BENIN their king on his trade expedition to Ghana Because they see Prince Ado as omo Oduduwa not different from them

gregyboy:
Show me d pple who made d beeeds how was it made....and i will show u d pple who made d benin artefact at igun in Benin outside this yoruba boy....go sit down ...ure just lying

gregyboy:
Truth will be separated from ...there is a parable that says so many lies brought together brings the truth ....ure saying a lie nw but truth as been deducted from it ...your fellow brothers said benin nevered fought any war with yoruba tribes
Some said that they only attempted but failed
You came and said it was due to linage or social contract ....i laff because no matter how you all paddle ur lies it will still comeout from ur mouth

Just let a little disagreement btw two yorubas and you see all the truth spilling out and you the children will start covering the lies of the old men
I still bet on it if nigeria divides yorubas will split up ....

Addressing the issue of empire oyo was never an empire if a togo man or a dahomey man where to be on this forum ...it wil be another another argument against oyo lies ....it be true u conqured togo nd Dahomey wat was the influence of the war on the oyo people where are the evidence ,were they songs of it ,are they artefact about it...if know its a lie a togo man will dispute this ur lies same with dahomey ...we knew the dahomey female warrior delt with oyo army mercilessly same with nupe and fulanis....

Boost on other people territories let them hear about this and the whole africa will tag yorubas lie lords ...of africa ....
Oyo in actual truth ruled only his fellow brothers who were not totally sumited to the alafin rule
The comming of the empire was more of social contract rather than war the war they went outside thier brothers they lost .....any fact behind are fiction

gregyboy:
Sir i was overwhelmed by your fallacy ...yoruba man pls can u show me a head that was buried there ....we dont even know if is the human head or d artefact head of the oba ....
I still want to see prove


But i know benin conquered yoruba state like ijesha u see there kings wearing round benin beeds, benin conaured ondo( osemawe of ondo)
,benin conqured osun with Lagos the nigeria manp can justify this this state were closer to the beni territories.... Now has i have prove to you with this prove to me oba heads were buried or shug ur fallacious mouth up

Obalufon:
Benin used coral beads bought from the Portuguese those are harvested in the bottom of the sea what we used in Yoruba land are precious stone melted and mold into beads from stone with different colors white green blue all form of rainbow colors once i get the picture of those stones i will post it on here

also coral beads too found in the earth rust and sea source from Lagos ..much similar to how we harvest cowries from the bottom of the.. sea olokun and aje

gregyboy:
Those are stories with no prove to it...i could come and say benin made areoplanes before the white taught about it ....with no prove mere than words

Obalufon:
ilorin was not even Fulani war it was Yoruba Muslim fighting Yoruba Yoruba themselves made alimi chief imam of florin.... it was 19 century 1845

Moneywomen17:
what prove do u need didn’t they wear the beads. The beads on oduduwa neck wasn’t it carve long before Benin met Portuguese or are u sayin when oduduwa Alive and oramiyan was just goin to Benin to be the king u were already meeting Portuguese.

Obalufon:
we have coral beads we have other beads too iyun which are made from precious stones but coral beads were not easily accessible then .it is harvested under the water ocean coral is like animal or plant growing underwater .it was so rear then but Benin had it in abundant through their contact with Portuguese explorer ..

Moneywomen17:
what am saying is if am not wrong is that Benin met Portuguese in late 13th century but the artwork of oduduwa was probably done by when he was alive way before the Benin met Portuguese which shows we have been wearing bead long before and it wasn’t an “Benin influence” like that guy wants us to believe.

Moneywomen17:
what am saying is if am not wrong is that Benin met Portuguese in late 13th century but the artwork of oduduwa was probably done by when he was alive way before the Benin met Portuguese which shows we have been wearing bead long before and it wasn’t an “Benin influence” like that guy wants us to believe.

Moneywomen17:
what prove do u need didn’t they wear the beads. The beads on oduduwa neck wasn’t it carve long before Benin met Portuguese or are u sayin when oduduwa Alive and oramiyan was just goin to Benin to be the king u were already meeting Portuguese.

Moneywomen17:
Benin man bead is not ur birthright I have been asking one of ur brothers since yesterday to show prove that Benin conquer any Yoruba town especially ijesha or osun where ife his but he has been unable too. Maybe if I place a curse on u too u will be compel to provide ur proof on where Benin controll any Yoruba town. The kriji war was a civil war fought among Yoruba with ijesha ondo and Ekiti fighting in it not to be subjugated by Ibadan but Benin is no where to be found. So if u make any claim provide proof or again make amadhioa destroy u and ur family. Now ur kind ruin this forum saying rhetoric with not just a single fact.

Moneywomen17:
Benin man bead is not ur birthright I have been asking one of ur brothers since yesterday to show prove that Benin conquer any Yoruba town especially ijesha or osun where ife his but he has been unable too. Maybe if I place a curse on u too u will be compel to provide ur proof on where Benin controll any Yoruba town. The kriji war was a civil war fought among Yoruba with ijesha ondo and Ekiti fighting in it not to be subjugated by Ibadan but Benin is no where to be found. So if u make any claim provide proof or again make amadhioa destroy u and ur family. Now ur kind ruin this forum saying rhetoric with not just a single fact.

gregyboy:
Tanks For notifying me.. ondo state go there ask for osemawe of ondo (he was enacted by the benin

Go to ijesha ask the oldmen there to tell you on the benin war with them when the the ekiti people refused to payhomage there king head was sent to benin the warrior eken died in d war as a result he stool at uselu have been empty the oba told his son to occupy the stool till eken comes back from war but he nevered return this tradition his still practise uptill now during coronation the benin price is the ediaken meaning (wait for eken to come)


Osun and ogun you can also use your eyes nd hand go read it up on net from yoruba source
https://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.edoworld.net/The_role_of_Edaiken_of_Uselu.html&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwi6g5PN3f3aAhXNJlAKHXuBDIgQFjAAegQIBxAB&usg=AOvVaw1sQGwjWMA6KxBBJxuJE0ED

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.edoworld.net/Origin_Of_Edaiken_Of_Uselu.html&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwi6g5PN3f3aAhXNJlAKHXuBDIgQFjABegQICBAB&usg=AOvVaw1CCYYXx2edQ9ODxDkrDA9n