₦airaland Forum

Empiree:
I am sure you understood me well. Are you supporting anachy?

Empiree:
"removal" denotes impeechment. There must be due process to go through to achieve this.

First all, the same traditional laws guiding typical oba in Yorubaland guides Emir too. That's, you can not remove emir without due process. Like either emir dies and then you install Yoruba man. Or emir violates conditions to retain his Emirship leading to dismissal.

You can't just claim because he's fulani, therefore you want to remove him. That's very silly. Doesn't work like that.

Now from Islamic point of view, we can not rebel a leader without a just cause. To remove a leader in Islam, the leader must have openly violated right of Sharia law and right of the people.

Is Emir of ilorin guilty of this?. It is up to you prove it. If you can establish the fact that he abused his position I can look into that but I'm not supporting his removal solely because he's fulani. That's calling for anachy in the city of ilorin.

Shé o tí yé?

kayfra:
You've exposed yourself. Dont have time to go back and forth with a Fulani pretending to be Yoruba.

Moneywomen17:
the question is an hypothetical question a Yoruba Muslim with no “nasty” over over a Fulani emir no violence or anarchy nothing and will be installed when the current emir is dead yes or no. I just want yes or no

Empiree:
You too is placed in my recycle bin. You guys are machineries. You want chaos in ilorin in the name of preserving yoruba culture which you yourselves are losing to Western lifestyle. Having read this post and previous one shows you are bending your knees gradually.


If current one is dies, you simply select qualified people and pick the MOST qualified one among them. I will be so glad if you guys are arrested for disorderly conduct if you people try to overthrow a legitimate Emir of ilorin. ilorites never said to you they are Fulani stooges.

Empiree:
I just put you in a permanent state of shut up. You guys are undercover machineries. You want chaotic ilorin

kayfra:
أنت أحمق فولاني الرقيق

Empiree:
You too is placed in my recycle bin. You guys are machineries. You want chaos in ilorin in the name of preserving yoruba culture which you yourselves are losing to Western lifestyle. Having read this post and previous one shows you are bending your knees gradually.


If current one dies, you simply select qualified people and pick the MOST qualified one among them. I will be so glad if you guys are arrested for disorderly conduct if you people try to overthrow a legitimate Emir of ilorin. ilorites never said to you they are Fulani stooges.

myobjective:
You are too ignorant to understand the effect of your line of reasoning. Slavery is a mental block that is been perpetrated by religion, one can be mentally enslaved without chains like you, Islam doesn't mean you should lose control of one homeland to a foreign invader and all these lame excuses doesn't hold any water.

The Fulani only uses religion as a means of political control, It has been exhibited in many parts of Northern Nigeria, religion is just a means to an end for them, gullible people like you buy into that senseless blackmail and lies that Nigeria cultural practice is not compatible to Islam.

Empiree:
you guys keep talking about slavery but yet you are still under British colonial rule indirectly.

Who told you Muslims in ilorin and ilorin generally claimed to be under slavery right now?. In this fragile Nigeria you guys want to compound more problems. Abeg, go and do the fight alone with the fulani. You need to worry about bigger issues in Nigeria now not this one. We know for sure Yoruba are cowards people. You only get mouth to cause trouble. If war starts now, you gonna back off and betray your fellow Yorubas. And then a total distraction from common problems plaguing the country are ignored. Nigeria is one damn it.

Fix the SW before agitating crap.

Moneywomen17:
u talk about British indirect rule. But if Nigeria try to break free from this rule will it be wrong.

So why are u screaming about the people who don’t want Fulani rule.

And u are fooling no one u are Fulani

we know u are just scared of what will happen when the Yoruba of ilorin wake up just like they have did twice before in history

Empiree:
Good. I am glad you said this. Now, how is a divided house within itself wanna confront external forces?. You have lots of internal bickering was the reason the British succeed and the reason they still subservient to them. By the way, why did you mention Nigeria?. I thought you wanted Odúdúwá Republic?. See see see that?. Whether you you Arewa, Odúdúwá it Biafra, that doesn't concern the British. These tribes mentioned are all slaves to them. So how you gonna break away from their indirect rule when you hate one another?. How you gonna break their indirect rule when you guys are instigating anachy in ilorin?. Think buddy.




said who?. If majority of ilorin people don't want fulani, fulani would be fine long ago. Islam is there bond buddy. I communicate with citizens of ilorin severally on WhatsApp. Take a look at what he said yesterday in the first attachment.



kikikikikiki... Let me show my brown teeth you don become mind reader?. I am under no obligation to convince you otherwise. Mimicking Toyin Aimakhu, I am Yoruba man to the core borne and bred in SW state to Awujale of Ijebuland why do you think a Yoruba man can't disagree with you on this?



I thought you said they already 'woke up'. You confused

Buddy, you can't do anything.

The 3rd picture is what you should fight to fix ✌️ at home and abroad

Moneywomen17:
@Empi.ree: all u just showed is u and ur friend are Fulani asslicker so none of my concern. What I care about is the inevitable revolt in ilorin that will send the Fulani emir packing. If u care so much about British indirect rule confront it just like this imam do and open people eyes to it. But Fulani packing from ilorin is a task that must be done despite the fact of people like u will try to resist it. So u are from ijebu but u just care so much about Fulani ruling ilorin so much u have Been defending them like crazy here. Ijebu has an awujale a Yoruba oba not an emir and so will ilorin too. Dumbass u are am claiming ijebu but u have been saying u Sw like crazy in this comment shouting Yoruba is coward. Nobody is fool by u dan fodio descendants u are only fooling urself. If u shout from now till tomorrow on nairaland it will never change anything that’s in own motion. And ilorin has chased away the emir before the British return him but now if he is chased away it’s final

Empiree:
Why are you upset though?.

Ilorin being majority Yoruba muslims, and emir who is supposedly fulani is not tyrannical. By revolting a leader in a relatively peaceful land, you are creating anarchy. If emir was tyrannical i can reason with you. But he is not. Since he is not, guess what, your opinion doesn't count. We have islamic injunctions from Quran and sunnah


Qur'an

O you who have believed(muslims), obey Allah and obey the Messenger and those in authority among you. And if you disagree over anything, refer it to Allah and the Messenger, if you should believe in Allah and the Last Day. That is the best [way] and best in result. Q 4:59



Suuna

Ibn `Umar (May Allah be pleased with them) reported: The Prophet (sallallaahu ’alayhi wa sallam) said, “It is obligatory upon a Muslim to listen (to the ruler) and obey whether he likes it or not, except when he is ordered to do a sinful thing; in such case, there is no obligation to listen or to obey.”
[Al-Bukhari and Muslim].


Whether you are muslim or not is not important. Majority of ilorin people are muslims. Hence, they have obligation not to rebel. This doesn't mean they are buttlickers damnit. What you say is irrelevant. Now, look at the second quotation up there which says unless ruler violates rights of God and the people. Emir of Ilorin had never debar people from thier God-given freedom nor is he tyrannical. If he was he would be gone long ago. ilorin is peaceful why would you expect muslims to rebel him for ethical reason?. Guess what, any muslim who participates in that will regret big time. You may not believe in islam but these two quotes up there dont recognize ethnicity or nationality in their context.



Now look at this hadith too


Anas (May Allah be pleased with him) reported: The Messenger of Allah (sallallaahu ’alayhi wa sallam) said, “Hear and obey even if an Abyssinian slave whose head is like a raisin is placed in authority over you.” [Al-Bukhari].



Again, you dont have to believe this because you are not muslim but i am telling you that muslims have obligation. A muslim should not fight a war obase on nationalism or ethnicity. It is a wrong war and you pay the price. You consider Fulani inferior to Yoruba, bcus in your view you are westernized. This last quote up there trashes that. The last quote simply tells you even if a poor inferior person is made a king over you regardless of his background, you should obey him for as long as he obeys God and he is not tyrannical to his people. Please kindly point out evil done by this current Emir of ilorin and let's scrutinize that. Thank you. Now you may wanna bring up Israeli/palestinian as to why we support palestinian who are "in the same situation" like Ilorin. The answer to this is simple. Israel is tyrannical and killing till now. Emir of Ilorin is not doing that.

You can only dream of taking back Ilorin from Fulani for now until Emir transits to a great beyond. Until then, you live on dreamland, buddy

Empiree:
you guys keep talking about slavery but yet you are still under British colonial rule indirectly.

Who told you Muslims in ilorin and Ilorin generally claimed to be under slavery right now?. In this fragile Nigeria, you guys want to compound more problems. Abeg, go and do the fight alone with the Fulani. You need to worry about bigger issues in Nigeria now not this one. We know for sure Yoruba are cowards people. You only get mouth to cause trouble. If war starts now, you gonna back off and betray your fellow Yorubas. And then a total distraction from common problems plaguing the country are ignored. Nigeria is one damn it.

Fix the SW before agitating crap.

blackpanthers:
I am a Muslim and I am strongly disappointed that people like you who are working zombies live among us.

There is a clear distinction between religion, ethnicity and political alignment. The Nigeria state configured to give some section of the country upper hand, they have mastered the use of this act to keep the nation poor and backward for years and actions like yours keep them on.

The Emir of Ilorin is a reminder of an epic political mistake by the Yoruba nation, it is a symbol of imperial power in our land, no matter how Yorubanized he might have become he still represent the interest of the Fulani hegemony which is against the interest of the Yoruba nation.

Nationhood transcends against religion that why in the Arabs are very tribal, tribal identity helps you yo build a nation that protects the interest of every member of the nation. My interest can ever be served by a Fulani man just because he is a Muslim, I am Yoruba first before my religion and they also see you first as Yoruba before your religion, that is why violence in the North affect Yoruba Muslim more than their Christian counterparts.

I was born in the North and I have live among our so-called Muslim brother all my life, religion is more like a tool for political controls, the Fulanis knows that they are too few and the only rally factor that they can use to get people power is Islam but when they get that support do they serve the interest of the Muslim Ummah that gave them the power?

What they are interested in is power and they will be comfortable if you become a second-class citizen to them no matter how intelligent or good you are.

I will never lose my Yoruba identity for an inferior culture just because I am a Muslim. I am a proud Muslim and a very nationalistic Yoruba, my ancestor got Islam through a different means from the Fulanis, we were a different nation to Northern Nigeria before British brought us together in this fail nation, if my ancestor can fight the Fulanis over the control of our commonwealth, they will be rolling in their grave to see a slave like you defending their oppressor with all the power

blackpanthers:
Southwest is already fixed, my wife is from Ilorin and goes there every year, the problem with people like you is you fail to read and understand history. History is an important tool that helps to forged one identity and help to project one view about the world.

If Nigeria were to disintegrate today, southwestern Nigeria will be the most developed, the most liberal, the region with the most educated populace, the region with city with the largest economy. Naturally, Kwara will want to be in that type of union, it is a simple economics, the majority of her inhabitant are working in Lagos, the majority of her trade her with other southwestern state tell me how they wouldn't want to be in that time of union.

The reality is Niger Delta oil is the only reason why people like saraki are still pushing that Northern thing and the Fulani tag, without oil money and with true federalism, the Ilorin elites will be begging to be in southwest

shizzle1:
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madridguy:
Lol, you mean this babalawo is imam again?

Lajet:
Chief Imam is on his own we Yoruba Muslim are against what he is doing we stand with our Master Fulani

shizzle1:
Those people are just so disgusting and irritating , they try to claim glory and superiority when the whole world knows yorooba and cowardice are 5&6. Very treacherous, cunny, deceptive, selfish and envious set of animals

where are the fools arguing thrash the others day insulting their rat poison-gulping coward -awolo-awo and ancestor -oduduwanker?

GeneralOjukwu lloydfolarin? You idiots come show your stupid selves

shizzle1:
shizzle1 to his homosexual father and wh0re mother: [s]I'm not in the least surprised that every male in your village have taken turns on your mother , in.cest and inbreeding is a norm in hoedua land

I hope she survives the infections and STDs already ravaging her public, smelly vajay

Hohohoho. .... Kikikiki ;[/s]D

shizzle1:
shizzle1 to his worthless fagg0t father and spermbank mother : My father is a fool and my mother is a poor prostituteeee, that's why I'm useless and laughing foolishly like an idiot. Please don't pity my useless life grin grin grin

... you made me laugh hilariously. Your tears made my ribs hurt