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Must you always bring out sentiments and tribalism out of every situation? What contribution has your people contributed to Lagos rather than sell spare parts and used clothes?? Did you count that as part of contributing to the economy? They only came for businesses because the environment is conducive and accommodating enough for them. grow up

BankeSmalls:
And when we say its not Yorubas that developed Lagos, instead its the whole country that developed Lagos, some Afonjas will start crying?

#Nomansland

The facility that has been abandoned for years can now be developed and be put to proper use the Lagos state government.
This is what happens in developed countries and that is why you see their stadia always in good conditions. [b][/b]

aribisala0:
Listen I am not here to argue foolishlly or endlessly.

My view is that Fashola had some positive points but in summary the general outlook of his government was elitist that is my opinion. I remember the slum evacuation and his commissioner telling people who have been there before Fashola was born to "go back to where they came from"

It is idiotic to summarize that to say "because he did not train teachers he was elitist"

Did I say so?
Now you say I used the term elitist to insult? No if I want to insult I caan do that quite comfotably. Open a dictionary. This is the education we were talking about

Fashola did not train tens of thousand of teachers please stop talking nonsense. What training dd he give them . Does it have a name or output qualification at the end.
How many LASG civil servants can use a computer?

My point is a very simple one not just with Fashola but the governed and the governors in Nigeria and I focused on Fashola because he was called a leader. We need to focus less on so called "projects" and invest in our people. Not only do we need to invest
We need to sit down and formulate a strategy of how to educate and train those kids who are now still under the age of 10 to make them competitive in a globalized world. That is visionary leadership

I saw no evidence of such thinking from Fashola whose vision is tunneled into their "elitist" Mega City project.

Nigeria needs to invest more in quality human capital developmen that can be objectively measured.

If you train 1000 teachers what did you train them in? For how long. Who did the traning and is it recurrent or a one off? Were the teachers evaluated afterwards and how did they perform. Were they certified?

LASG went backwards in WAEC performance under Fashola and there is no objective evidence of any Human development strategy apart from noise from idiotic paid hacks and propagandists who come to places like Nairaland to make noise.

Are you even from Lagos State? Do you know Lagos State?

What dd he do to rehabilitate area boys?
Where is the output of the skills acquisition programme. This programme that had no vision ,no investment and is as good as dead

1. First you called them elitists, but after countering you with facts per their people oriented achievements, you shifted to teachers.

2. After countering you with facts that they actually massively hired teachers, you again shifted to what they are training them in.

4. Your new rant and goal post is now area boys.

What is your next rant and goal post going to be? They did not make the sky blue?

5. Projects is actually in people if you don't know. Projects means jobs, it means making people's lives easier, it means improved quality of life, building schools means human development, hiring and training teachers means human development, building hospitals and training and hiring Nigerians to staff the hospitals means human development, 30 skills acquisition centers means human development.


Obviously, you are ranting with zero knowledge per what you are ranting about and the fact that you keep shifting and running helter skelter from point a to point be with irrelevant argument means you lack the capacity to defend your initial claim that they are elitists.

It is ok to have and propagate your opinion, but your opinion was wrong and flawed, hence your inability to show facts that they are actually elitists.

I know people used to use that term and I've lectured many of you per that misguided and bogus representation because facts on the ground doesn't jell with your claims because the same people doing so much across the board on behalf of the people can not at the same time be against the people they are doing so much for and if your.

Nigeria: Now the Area Boys Are 'Born Again'! Rehabilitated Lagos Urchins Graduate


AT the onset of the administartion of Governor Raji Fashola, SAN, of Lagos State, news was all over town that urchins known as area boys were being raided by the government to rid them off the streets of Lagos and to be put in an Island where they would not be able to escape and, by so doing, would get serious with their lives.

It was a welcomed idea from Lagosians as they knew if these miscreants were off the streets, harassment, theft and hooliganism at the various parks, bus stops and markets would stop. Since that time, I had been looking for opportunity to see what exactly the state government had in stock for the urchins since it is not getting them off the streets that matters but getting them to get something doing.


http://allafrica.com/stories/200808180818.html

Per your new area boys rant and goal post shifting to justify your bogus and misguided elitist claim, above is another fact to educate you and dispel your ignorant assertions.


I expect you to come back with another bogus, irrelevant and goal shifting claim and I hope it's they are elitist because they did no make the sky blue.


Btw, me being a Lagosian or not can't not be the reason why you made your ignorant elitist claim even though I'm not only a Lagosian with a family court, I obviously more about Lagos than you a million times over.

deomelo:
1. First you called them elitists, but after countering you with facts per their people oriented achievements, you shifted to teachers.

2. After countering you with facts that they actually massively hired teachers, you again shifted to what they are training them in.

4. Your new rant and goal post is now area boys.

What is your next rant and goal post going to be? They did not make the sky blue?

5. Projects is actually in people if you don't know. Projects means jobs, it means making people's lives easier, it means improved quality of life, building schools means human development, hiring and training teachers means human development, building hospitals and training and hiring Nigerians to staff the hospitals means human development, 30 skills acquisition centers means human development.


Obviously, you are ranting with zero knowledge per what you are ranting about and the fact that you keep shifting and running helter skelter from point a to point be with irrelevant argument means you lack the capacity to defend your initial claim that they are elitists.

It is ok to have and propagate your opinion, but your opinion was wrong and flawed, hence your inability to show facts that they are actually elitists.

I know people used to use that term and I've lectured many of you per that misguided and bogus representation because facts on the ground doesn't jell with your claims because the same people doing so much across the board on behalf of the people can not at the same time be against the people they are doing so much for and if your.







Per your new area boys rant and goal pot shifting to justify your bogus and misguided elitist claim, above is another fact to educate you and dispel your ignorant assertions.


I expect you to come back with another bogus, irrelevant and goal shifting claim and I hope it's they are elitist because they did no make the sky blue.


Btw, me being a Lagosian or not can't not be the reason why you made your ignorant elitist claim even though I'm not only a Lagosian with a family court, I obviously more about Lagos than you a million times over.

I am not really sure what your point is beyond trying to earn your pay check

My opinion is that they are elitist. You cannot change that.
I do not care what you think and have no interest in changing your opinion so if you think your family members or elders at home are ranting go and tell them

For me Fashola is neither a leader nor a visionary and he and his cohort are elitist who look out for their own personal interest first.
They have not done anything to develop Human capital in Lagos state

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aribisala0:
I am not really sure what your point is beyond trying to earn your pay check

My opinion is that they are elitist. You cannot change that.
I do not care what you think and have no interest in changing your opinion so if you think your family members or elders at home are ranting go and tell them

For me Fashola is neither a leader nor a visionary and he and his cohort are elitist who look out for their own personal interest first.
They have not done anything to develop Human capital in Lagos state

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You finally ran out of excuses to justify your elitist claims with.

Why are they elitists? You still have not utter one fact to show or educate us what they did or did not do that connotes the term elitist.

After shifting to teachers, to training to healthcare to area boys, I was expecting your next rant to shift to why they did not make the sky blue.

You can shout and scream elitist till eternity, but facts on the ground says you are lying.





Next time, don't misuse words that you don't know the meaning of and can not justify or back up with facts.

deomelo:
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You finally ran out of excuses to justify your elitist claims with.

Why are they elitists? You still have not utter one fact to show or educate us what they did or did not do that connotes the term elitist.

After shifting to teachers, to training to healthcare to area boys, I was expecting your next rant to shift to why they did not make the sky blue.

You can shout and scream elitist till eternity, but facts on the ground says you are lying.
Any monkey who wants to change the colour of the sky should discuss that with his father




Next time, don't misuse words that you don't know the meaning of and can not justify or back up with facts.

My view is that Fashola and their cohort is elitist no monkey or his father will change that.
So any disgruntled monkey and his father can keep swinging from tree to tree and shrieking incoherently it changes nothing

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aribisala0:
My view is that Fashola and their cohort is elitist no monkey or his father will change that.
So any disgruntled monkey and his father can keep swinging from tree to tree and shrieking incoherently it changes nothing

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When you make claims or call people names, you should be able to explain and justify the reason/s why they are what you called them.


The reasons you've stated after getting busted are.

1. They did not build schools and hospitals and I proved you wrong with facts, then you shifted to.

2. They did not hire and train teachers and I proved you wrong with facts, then you shifted to.

3. They did not do anything about area boys and I again proved you wrong with facts, now you ran out of ignorant and silly excuses.



A grown adult like you should be able to clearly articulate yourself and back up your views and opinions with sane and rational facts, instead of needlessly running from one excuse to the next with more and more ignorant rubbish.


You are free to throw tantrums and abuse your parents because you are too ignorant and incapable of expressing your views intelligently, it's just a reflection of your ignorance and lousy upbringing.

deomelo:
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When you make claims or call people names, you should be able to explain and justify the reason/s why they are what you called them.


The reasons you've stated after getting busted are.

1. They did not build schools and hospitals and I proved you wrong with facts, then you shifted to.

2. They did not hire and train teachers and I proved you wrong with facts, then you shifted to.

3. They did not do anything about area boys and I again proved you wrong with facts, now you ran out of ignorant and silly excuses.



A grown adult like you should be able to clearly articulate yourself and back up your views and opinions with sane and rational facts, instead of needlessly running from one excuse to the next with more and more ignorant rubbish.


You are free to throw tantrums and abuse your parents because you are too ignorant and incapable of expressing your views intelligently, it's just a reflection of your ignorance and lousy upbringing.

In my opinion Fashola is elitist ,any monkey that does not like it can eat shitt
I don't owe any idiot my time or effort. I do what I like with them.

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aribisala0:
In my opinion Fashola is elitist ,any monkey that does not like it can eat shitt
I don't owe any idiot my time or effort. I do what I like with them.

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You are free to throw tantrums and abuse your parents because you are too ignorant and incapable of expressing your views intelligently, it's just a reflection of your ignorance and lousy upbringing.

deomelo:
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You are free to throw tantrums and abuse your parents because you are too ignorant and incapable of expressing your views intelligently, it's just a reflection of your ignorance and lousy upbringing.

I believe Fashola is an elitist and not a leader.

I really do not care what any monkey and his family think

bigpicture001:
...grow up old man...anything u are required to pay for does go with the synonym of charity..if I pay to board a BRT.ur only giving me service for my money nd not doing me good.again if lagos puts it in shape..it will charge heavily on attendance on any event it host in it.be it politics, be it football.,do don't say that dey pit it in use for my own good cuz am not the accountant of the lagos state IGR

I thought I could redeem you from being a tribal fanatics but your case has gone to the next level.