Earlier I mentioned comparative oil consumption per capita.

168 Ghana 2.43
169 East Timor 2.27
170 Pakistan 2.15
171 Cambodia 2.14
172 Guinea-Bissau 1.84
173 Kenya 1.81
174 Sierra Leone 1.64
175 Nigeria 1.64
176 Cameroon 1.49
177 Bhutan 1.39
178 Comoros 1.36
179 Haiti 1.22
180 Zambia 1.16

Here is the latest supporting data in terms of a neglected stat,vehicles per 1000.

Kenya Dangoteland

Vehicles / 1,000 people [+] 2015 29.25 chart 20.70 2015 Vehicles / 1,000 people [+]
Tax

https://countryeconomy.com/countries/compare/kenya/nigeria

Lets compare with all nations near Dangoland on the global GDP fiction list where as always the Brodas look good.

125 Vietnam 6,876
126 Angola 6,813
127 Congo, Rep. 6,707
128 Myanmar 6,285
129 Nigeria 5,927
130 Nicaragua 5,823
131 Samoa 5,737
132 Moldova 5,657
133 Tonga 5,605

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita

Nicaragua Vehicles / 1,000 people [+] 2015 78.92

Moldova Vehicles / 1,000 people [+] 2015 201.37

Angola Vehicles / 1,000 people [+] 2015 33.13

Vietnam Vehicles / 1,000 people [+] 2015 23.66

Here's Ghana Vehicles / 1,000 people [+] 2015 32.27

Tbh,I find this intellectual exercise fascinating since finding the Real has always been a hobby. THINKING PEOPLE,WHY IS THAT!? Why do those nations closest to the Ogas on the global GDP list average 4x to 50% higher car ownership rates

Thanks NairobiWalker. These Nigeria are special kind of stupid.

NairobiWalker:


Dude, what kind of an idiot are you?

1. Lagos is the economic capital of Nigeria. Common sense dictates that it will take a lion's share of your $400 billion economy. Lagos' economy being larger than Kenya's doesn't mean Nigeria is by far superior to Kenya, look at the total GDP of Nigeria v its population in comparison to Kenya's to get a clear picture. See, of the $88 billion GDP OF Kenya, Nairobi accounts for about $44 billion. That makes Nairobi a bigger economy than 80% of African countries - bigger than countries like Cote d'Ivoire and almost equal to Ghana. Can I say then Kenya is better than Ghana by far? Definitely not.

2. Oil doesn't have to be mined in Lagos for Lagos to benefit from it. See, most Kenyans depend on Agriculture. No farming happens in Nairobi yet Nairobi contributes 50% of Kenya's GDP. Can we then say Nairobi doesn't depend on Agriculture? Definitely NO! You'll be a special kind of stupid to believe that, in fact if Agriculture went down, the economy of Nairobi will be badly hit. Why? The agricultural production of Kenya ends up in Nairobi, industries that produce Agricultural inputs are in Nairobi, horticultural products are exported via air through Nairobi, many farmers spend their money in Nairobi. Lots of farm produce is processed in Nairobi. You get the gist? Yes. Lagos might not have oil fields but money from oil fields is spent in Lagos, people who make money from oil invest their money in Lagos, Lagos benefits from the federal budget that draws its funds from oil. I gues lots of oil is exported through Lagos. Are you so dumb that these things have to be explained to you?

PS - All cities in Africa have ongoing projects. Stop this 'What if the ongoing projects in Lagos are completed' bullshit. It just makes you look dumb.

Kikuyu,
Yeah looking at number of registered vehicles, from what I can cleaned Nigeria had around 11M registered cars in 2016 (out of which 5m were registered in 3 yrs -2013-2015!!!) - nIGERIA nollyWOOD against Kenya's 2.8m. That should but Kenya and Nigeria equally around 60-70 cars for 1,000 people.

Kenya rise in registered motor vehicles - correlates with GDP - Nigeria cooked gdp is another topic.

https://www.ceicdata.com/datapage/charts/o_kenya_road-transport-no-of-motor-vehicles-registered?type=area&period=max&width=1180&height=500&lang=en

sufferNsmiling:
Why do you think nigeria is so backwards it is people like dangote looted nigeria dry from the 80s teal 2today the amount of money he sent abroad is 20 x what he owns today. He destroyed a lot of the future off nigerians people why you have in few billionaires in the country . the country is bone dry these are the people which destroyed alot of nigeria future important things in the 80s and 90s put 200 to 300 per cent interest on the thing. Now look at nigeria today.

Beer parlour talk, speak with facts and evidence.

kikuyu1:
Earlier I mentioned comparative oil consumption per capita.

Here is the latest supporting data in terms of a neglected stat,vehicles per 1000.

Kenya Dangoteland

Vehicles / 1,000 people [+] 2015 29.25 chart 20.70 2015 Vehicles / 1,000 people [+]
Tax

https://countryeconomy.com/countries/compare/kenya/nigeria

Lets compare with all nations near Dangoland on the global GDP fiction list where as always the Brodas look good.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita

Nicaragua Vehicles / 1,000 people [+] 2015 78.92

Moldova Vehicles / 1,000 people [+] 2015 201.37

Angola Vehicles / 1,000 people [+] 2015 33.13

Vietnam Vehicles / 1,000 people [+] 2015 23.66

Here's Ghana Vehicles / 1,000 people [+] 2015 32.27

Tbh,I find this intellectual exercise fascinating since finding the Real has always been a hobby.THINKING PEOPLE,WHY IS THAT!?Why do those nations closest to the Ogas on the global GDP list average 4x to 50% higher car ownership rates

I only want to reply cos of the bolded n I hope u won't be abusive.

Why is it that Ghana has lower GDP per capita than Vietnam but have a bigger number of vehicles/1000p than Vietnam??

Why is it that moldova has a lower GDP per capita than Nicaragua but have more than double vehicles/1000p of Nicaragua??

GDP per capita versus 'real wages' on the ground might say something.An economist might elaborate this better! Taxes and other govt policies must also have an effect! I heard it's very expensive to own a car in Singapore due to policies put in place that seek to encourage usage of public transport! But wages of the man on the ground will say a lot. Well paid citizens would want to acquire luxuries such as cars in their lives.The more of these people the more of cars!
!

theenchanter:
I only want to reply cos of the bolded n I hope u won't be abusive.

Why is it that Ghana has lower GDP per capita than Vietnam but have a bigger number of vehicles/1000p than Vietnam??

Why is it that moldova has a lower GDP per capita than Nicaragua but have more than double vehicles/1000p of Nicaragua??

NairobiWalker:


Dude, what kind of an idiot are you?

1. Lagos is the economic capital of Nigeria. Common sense dictates that it will take a lion's share of your $400 billion economy. Lagos' economy being larger than Kenya's doesn't mean Nigeria is by far superior to Kenya, look at the total GDP of Nigeria v its population in comparison to Kenya's to get a clear picture. See, of the $88 billion GDP OF Kenya, Nairobi accounts for about $44 billion. That makes Nairobi a bigger economy than 80% of African countries - bigger than countries like Cote d'Ivoire and almost equal to Ghana. Can I say then Kenya is better than Ghana by far? Definitely not.

2. Oil doesn't have to be mined in Lagos for Lagos to benefit from it. See, most Kenyans depend on Agriculture. No farming happens in Nairobi yet Nairobi contributes 50% of Kenya's GDP. Can we then say Nairobi doesn't depend on Agriculture? Definitely NO! You'll be a special kind of stupid to believe that, in fact if Agriculture went down, the economy of Nairobi will be badly hit. Why? The agricultural production of Kenya ends up in Nairobi, industries that produce Agricultural inputs are in Nairobi, horticultural products are exported via air through Nairobi, many farmers spend their money in Nairobi. Lots of farm produce is processed in Nairobi. You get the gist? Yes. Lagos might not have oil fields but money from oil fields is spent in Lagos, people who make money from oil invest their money in Lagos, Lagos benefits from the federal budget that draws its funds from oil. I gues lots of oil is exported through Lagos. Are you so dumb that these things have to be explained to you?

PS - All cities in Africa have ongoing projects. Stop this 'What if the ongoing projects in Lagos are completed' bullshit. It just makes you look dumb.

Not only did you fail to make your point without having to add insults,you also lied..

No.1 Kenya GDP according to the world bank is $70bn and not $88b as u claim.. Nairobi indeed contributes to more than half of ur GDP cus is just one of d few working cities u got.. Lagos on the other hand contributes to less than 20% of Nigeria's GDP and still has a bigger economy than Kenya

2) Truly Lagos really benefit from the oil wealth despite not being an oil producing state but it's d same as Kenya.. Kenya doesn't produce oil,but u refine it,don't u? u buy crude oil and refine it.. Lagos doesn't do that.. the benefit Lagos derives from oil comes from the tax being paid by many multinational oil companies with their headquarters in Lagos plus d seaport which is d major point of oil export.. the federal allocation Lagos gets from oil isn't up to it's IGR,and it can survive very well without the oil.. Lagos economy is strongly private sector driven and yea,its bigger than your Kenya's..

And lastly,you Kenyans are over hyping this oil thing.. the oil sector contributes to less than 20& of our GDP.. its d federal revenue not d GDP that's dependent on oil...

Daejoyoung:

l asked you a question earlier, why is Kenya with all her so called development according to you not up to Morocco's level, why is your economy so small? forget about Nigeria for now, let's assume Nigeria is the worst country in the world with a true uncooked GDP of just 1 billion dollars.

Morocco has oil as well .Kenya has not yet started exporting oil yet.

Danielnino00:



Not only did you fail to make your point without having to add insults,you also lied..

No.1 Kenya GDP according to the world bank is $70bn and not $88b as u claim.. Nairobi indeed contributes to more than half of ur GDP cus is just one of d few working cities u got.. Lagos on the other hand contributes to less than 20% of Nigeria's GDP and still has a bigger economy than Kenya

2) Truly Lagos really benefit from the oil wealth despite not being an oil producing state but it's d same as Kenya.. Kenya doesn't produce oil,but u refine it,don't u? u buy crude oil and refine it.. Lagos doesn't do that.. the benefit Lagos derives from oil comes from the tax being paid by many multinational oil companies with their headquarters in Lagos plus d seaport which is d major point of oil export.. the federal allocation Lagos gets from oil isn't up to it's IGR,and it can survive very well without the oil.. Lagos economy is strongly private sector driven and yea,its bigger than your Kenya's..

And lastly,you Kenyans are over hyping this oil thing.. the oil sector contributes to less than 20& of our GDP.. its d federal revenue not d GDP that's dependent on oil...

It is not overhype.
98% of your exports is crude oil.
When oil prices plunged your economy went into a recession that you have never left and it seems will never leave so long as oil prices are below $80 a barrel.
Oil practically funds your budget.So it may form 20% of your GDP but the other 80% depends on that 20% to run.
Kenya and South Africa are credited to be some of the few nations which fund more than 90% of their budgets from TAXES.
Nigeria is nowhere there.

Outside SA,no African country beats Kenya in terms of their retail market development.What does that say about Kenyans.Are we obsessed with shopping than many African countries? Are our middle class paid better? Nigeria being the giant of Africa with the biggest GDP on the continent,does it pay better salaries than SA,Egypt,Ghana or Kenya? How strong is the middle class in Kenya compared to the one Nigeria or other African countries? What are the poverty levels in Kenya and Nigeria? Are these numbers increasing or decreasing? What are the literacy levels? The life expectancy? How important is Kenya and Nigeria to the UN ? Are you really the Giant of Africa?

GERALD710:

It is not overhype.
98% of your exports is crude oil.
When oil prices plunged your economy went into a recession that you have never left and it seems will never leave so long as oil prices are below $80 a barrel.
Oil practically funds your budget.So it may form 20% of your GDP but the other 80% depends on that 20% to run.
Kenya and South Africa are credited to be some of the few nations which fund more than 90% of their budgets from TAXES.
Nigeria is nowhere there.

no, oil does not constitute 98% of our export.... our agricultural export stood at 5% last year, how can oil now be 98%?

Our federal budget is funded by oil revenue at 2.8t naira and non-oil revenue at 6.3t naira.

GERALD710:
Morocco has oil as well .Kenya has not yet started exporting oil yet.

ls oil the only natural resource in the world? There are many countries in the world doing very well without oil. Besides there are other natural resources and Kenya is not short of them.

frer8:
Outside SA,no African country beats Kenya in terms of their retail market development.What does that say about Kenyans.Are we obsessed with shopping than many African countries? Are our middle class paid better? Nigeria being the giant of Africa with the biggest GDP on the continent,does it pay better salaries than SA,Egypt,Ghana or Kenya? How strong is the middle class in Kenya compared to the one Nigeria or other African countries? What are the poverty levels in Kenya and Nigeria? Are these numbers increasing or decreasing? What are the literacy levels? The life expectancy? How important is Kenya and Nigeria to the UN ? Are you really the Giant of Africa?

good questions, It'll be great if some can be answered, though the salaries part is out of it.

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2018/01/67-nigerians-live-poverty-line-presidential-aide/

I had that Nigeria has surpassed India in the number of people leaving below the poverty line? Is this true ?

https://www.nairaland.com/4330419/nigeria-highest-number-extremely-poor

Even in Nairaland,Nigerians are having this conversation!

Danielnino00:



Not only did you fail to make your point without having to add insults,you also lied..

No.1 Kenya GDP according to the world bank is $70bn and not $88b as u claim.. Nairobi indeed contributes to more than half of ur GDP cus is just one of d few working cities u got.. Lagos on the other hand contributes to less than 20% of Nigeria's GDP and still has a bigger economy than Kenya

2) Truly Lagos really benefit from the oil wealth despite not being an oil producing state but it's d same as Kenya.. Kenya doesn't produce oil,but u refine it,don't u? u buy crude oil and refine it.. Lagos doesn't do that.. the benefit Lagos derives from oil comes from the tax being paid by many multinational oil companies with their headquarters in Lagos plus d seaport which is d major point of oil export.. the federal allocation Lagos gets from oil isn't up to it's IGR,and it can survive very well without the oil.. Lagos economy is strongly private sector driven and yea,its bigger than your Kenya's..

And lastly,you Kenyans are over hyping this oil thing.. the oil sector contributes to less than 20& of our GDP.. its d federal revenue not d GDP that's dependent on oil...

1. Kenya's GDP was $70 billion in 2016. We are in 2018 buddy. Move with time.

2. If Lagos contributes 20% of Nigeria's GDP, then its GDP is not $136 billion as y'all have been claiming here all through but a mere $51 billion - making it just slightly bigger than Nairobi's yet with 4 times Nairobi's population. This then means all the noise you guys have been making about Lagos' GDP being bigger than Kenya is bull.shit. The bad thing about lying is the liar forgets what and how he lied and ends up contradicting himself.

3. If you can't understand the simple fact that Lagos has benefitted enormously from oil then I have nothing more to tell you.

4. Saying Lagos' GDP is 20% of Nigeria's GDP and Lagos' GDP is bigger than Kenya's in the same post confirms 3 things about you.

i) You have poor Mathematical knowledge
ii) You're a liar.
iii) You're stupid.

5. Saying it's the federal revenue that's dependent on oil and not the GDP confirms five things about you.
i) YOU'RE STUPID.
ii) YOU'RE STUPID.
iii) YOU'RE STUPID.
iv) YOU'RE STUPID.
v) YOU'RE STUPID.

https://www.softpower.ug/parliament-against-plans-to-relocate-un-base-from-entebbe-to-nairobi/

So there were plans to relocate the UN base from Entebbe,Uganda to Nairobi.I just learnt that the UN has now cooled a bit after a protest letter from Museveni and condemnation of the UN by the Ugandan parliament.This was yet another UN steal for Kenya.

Ugandans and other member countries complaining of unfair distribution of UN entities should be asking themselves,Why Kenya?

Is there a Kenyan cartel in the UN that made the proposal? Or ,is Kenya more appealing to UN and it's staff ?

Daejoyoung:

My point is simple, there is no basis for comparison, railway development is ongoing in Nigeria too, and it's foolish to compare it's scale to that of Kenya.
Kenya is not ahead of Nigeria in every sector, that's a misleading title by the OP.
For example there are threads on Nairaland that shows so many indigenous industries in Nigeria l never knew existed, and there were so many of them which l verified myself, unfortunately these threads were tainted and inspired by tribal slurs but informative anyway.

https://www.nairaland.com/3918290/yorubas-most-industriousrichest-educated-tribe

https://www.nairaland.com/3926379/igbos-most-industrious-innovative-richest
The informal Nigerian private sector is huge, although l agree Nigeria is lagging behind Kenya in terms of public services and some major infrastructures.

If you are referring to the Kubwa Station,you have to be joking!!

TayserMahiri:


1 % from which source? Inter-mixing is actually not as bad as your granny told you.

And yet we have entire communties made up of different ethnicities.
Last I checked where I come from Swahilis are the majority and they are a mix of Arab and African.
Kikuyus are a mix of everything.Some have Maasai ancestry (like the firstand current president and half the people in Kiambu county).All Kikuyus have some Cushitic ancestry because they absorbed the Athi tribe which lived in Central Kenya prior to the Bantu migration and in Nyeri many have some Arab ancestry(Hence the stereotype of Nyeri people being lighr in color and being husband beaters).Around missionary centres and in the former White Highlands some European ancestry exists as well (Tumutumu in Nyeri for example).
That is why Kikuyus come in all colors and sizes.As dark as Wangari Maathai and as light as Brenda Wairimu .As Cushitic looking as Marya and as swahili looking as Nic Wangondu.
In Busia County,a mix of Luos and Luhyias is very common.
More than half the Samburu have Rendille ancestry!!!Rendilles practise monogamy ,as a result they always had excess women.These women were usually married off to the Samburu.
Borana-Meru intermarriages are very common as well.
What the hell are you talking about?

Egypt
Algeria
Ethopia
Nigeria
South Africa
Angola
Morocco
Sudan
Libya
Democratic Republic of the Congo


Above is the top ten militaries in Africa for 2017. Kenya did not even make top ten in Africa and you are here comparing them with Nigeria militarily. As someone rightly said, Nigeria should be in comparison with countries like Brazil, India, etc.

Given your disastrous attempts to root out Boko Haram and our relative success in rooting out Al Shabaab.
I doubt it.

frer8:
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2018/01/67-nigerians-live-poverty-line-presidential-aide/

I had that Nigeria has surpassed India in the number of people leaving below the poverty line? Is this true ?

l heard that 80% of People in Nairobi live in Slums, is this true?

GERALD710:

If you are referring to the Kubwa Station,you have to be joking!!

Stop quoting me on discussions from way back, l don't have your time this morning.

I know you won't agree. Like I stated earlier, you can come up with your own ranking.

Even with the instability, disorganisation and corruption in DRC as you said, their military is still a little stronger than Kenya's own
as you can see from the stats in the link I provided. Their Navy is even kind of stronger despite having very little coastline when compared with Kenya.

In fact, this comparison would have been more sensible if it was between Kenya and DRC though DRC may still be ahead.

BTW I love Kenya and I may visit Mombasa one of this days.
Peace.

The DRC army has been kicked all over the Congo by both the Ugandan (an army that Kenya can thrash in a day)and the Rwandan army.Didn't Kagame install the current president's father as presidentSMH!!Even Last year the DRC army has beeu unable to stop the Ugandans from roaming around as they please

Nairobi has a population of roughly 4m. 80% of it's people translates to about 3.2 m which isn't true! It seems the case for Nigeria is true!Nigeria has surpassed India in the number of it's citizens living below the poverty level

Daejoyoung:

l heard that 80% of People in Nairobi live in Slums, is this true?

frer8:
Nairobi has a population of roughly 4m. 80% of it's people translates to about 3.2 m which isn't true! It seems the case for Nigeria is true!Nigeria has surpassed India in the number of it's citizens living below the poverty level

the population of people living below poverty line is about 20% in India, that's roughly 250m, Nigeria's population is 180m.

How can this be true?..... most if what is being argued here is just rubbish.

I never came up with this figures.The links are there!Either way Nigeria is up there at the top.LOOK IT UP!http://www.theguildng.com/82m-nigerians-living-in-poverty-to-surpass-indian-by-2018/

theenchanter:
the population of people living below poverty line is about 20% in India, that's roughly 250m, Nigeria's population is 180m.

How can this be true?..... most if what is being argued here is just rubbish.

NairobiWalker:


1. Kenya's GDP was $70 billion in 2016. We are in 2018 buddy. Move with time.

2. If Lagos contributes 20% of Nigeria's GDP, then its GDP is not $136 billion as y'all have been claiming here all through but a mere $51 billion - making it just slightly bigger than Nairobi's yet with 4 times Nairobi's population. This then means all the noise you guys have been making about Lagos' GDP being bigger than Kenya is bull.shit. The bad thing about lying is the liar forgets what and how he lied and ends up contradicting himself.

3. If you can't understand the simple fact that Lagos has benefitted enormously from oil then I have nothing more to tell you.

4. Saying Lagos' GDP is 20% of Nigeria's GDP and Lagos' GDP is bigger than Kenya's in the same post confirms 3 things about you.

i) You have poor Mathematical knowledge
ii) You're a liar.
iii) You're stupid.

5. Saying it's the federal revenue that's dependent on oil and not the GDP confirms five things about you.
i) YOU'RE STUPID.
ii) YOU'RE STUPID.
iii) YOU'RE STUPID.
iv) YOU'RE STUPID.
v) YOU'RE STUPID.

Nairobiwalker these educated morons from Nigeria will take a millenia to comprehend simple issues,you wonder how they survived in their education stages

frer8:
Nairobi has a population of roughly 4m. 80% of it's people translates to about 3.2 m which isn't true! It seems the case for Nigeria is true!Nigeria has surpassed India in the number of it's citizens living below the poverty level

You said it seems the case of Nigeria is true, l also think 3.2 million Nairobians live in Slums, it seems so too. We'll keep going in circles until we decide to use our reason.

rvp20182:
Kikuyu,
Yeah looking at number of registered vehicles, from what I can cleaned Nigeria had around 11M registered cars in 2016 (out of which 5m were registered in 3 yrs -2013-2015!!!) - nIGERIA nollyWOOD against Kenya's 2.8m. That should but Kenya and Nigeria equally around 60-70 cars for 1,000 people.

Kenya rise in registered motor vehicles - correlates with GDP - Nigeria cooked gdp is another topic.

https://www.ceicdata.com/datapage/charts/o_kenya_road-transport-no-of-motor-vehicles-registered?type=area&period=max&width=1180&height=500&lang=en

I wish I'd come with this critical stat sooner-anyway no harm,no foul! They still can't comprehend why nations supposedly on their level have a much higher car ownership ratio or why ours is markedly better! Sometimes I think I'm being unnecessarily cruel like teasing 'tards! Then I hear their screams of abuse as they duck behind Dangote's Bentley like vampires hiding from sunlight and continue!

254tobby:


Nairobiwalker these educated morons from Nigeria will take a millenia to comprehend simple issues,you wonder how they survived in their education stages

One gets tired trying to educate them on obvious things.

Lagos is a Hub for Entertainment, sports,fashion, real estate,ICT ,business, sports,Luxury etc in Nigeria and Africa.
It will continue to give you headache that Lagos economy is bigger than your country.

It will give you more pain that lagos has more hyper projects than any city in Africa.

There isn't any excuse for your economical flaws.
Build your Nairobi to be able to compete economically, project wise etc with mighty Lagos

frer8:
I never came up with this figures.The links are there!Either way Nigeria is up there at the top.LOOK IT UP!http://www.theguildng.com/82m-nigerians-living-in-poverty-to-surpass-indian-by-2018/

I never came up with these figures. The links are there. 80% of nairobbery population lives in slums.
About 60 to 80 percent of Kenya's urban.
population lives in slums. In Nairobi, informal
settlements cover just 6% of the total residential
land area, yet house 60% of the city's population
(IRIN, 2013). Access to basic services is not the
only thing lost in slum life.
slum almanac 2015 2016 - UN-Habitat
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