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davidnazee:
So Anthony Enahoro was a Yoruba representative?

Oh! you come up again with this one ? You are an Edo man that do not know Bini is meaningless in Edo language but of yoruba origin. So you think Anthony Enahoro , didn't believed in Yoruba philosophy despite his Bini- Uromi ancestry ? Anyway, he remained a Yoruba property because from the place he was born is named 'Esan' and (originally, 'E san fia' owes its origin to Bini (meaning, 'they have fled' or 'they jumped away'), É sa fun â/fu hâ/ fun won/ as same with Yoruba words for description of people who run away from somewhere. This just showed that he was from Uromi and shared affinity with Yoruba . He singlehandedly went against creation of mid west being from Yoruba Land. If you don't know, google is your help mate.....A great man he was and will always be in the mindset of Yorubas.

Olu317:
Oh! you come up again with this one ? You are an Edo man that do not know Bini is meaningless in Edo language but of yoruba origin. So you think Anthony Enahoro , didn't believed in Yoruba philosophy despite his Bini- Uromi ancestry ? Anyway, he remained a Yoruba property because from a place was named 'Esan' (originally, 'E san fia' owes its origin to Bini (meaning, 'they have fled' or 'they jumped away'), É sa fun â/fu hâ/ fun won/ as same with Yoruba words for description of people who run away from somewhere. This just showed that he was from Uromi and shared affinity with Yoruba . He singlehandedly went against creation of mid west being from Yoruba Land. If you don't know, google is your help mate.....A great man he was and will always be in the mindset of Yorubas.

All I can say is; Yoruba = self deception..

davidnazee:
All I can say is; Yoruba = self deception..

Deception? And yet many Edos claim and choose to identify with Yorubas? I mock your ignorance. Anyway, I have educated you,since you have no knowledge of the past but filled with hatred. Anway, how many non Bini knows the meaning or have it as having the etymology of a contraption of E san fia (Esan) in their local language? Do you even know that as small as Edos is ,it has more than 30 or more languages and different communities with different identities in the past but developed into learning Bini language? You practically have no knowledge of what you have delved into......

Olu317:
Deception? And yet many Edos claim and choose to identify with Yorubas? I mock your ignorance. Anyway, I have educated you,since you have no knowledge of the past but filled with hatred. Anway, how many non Bini knows the meaning or have it as having the etymology of a contraption of E san fia (Esan) in their local language? Do you even know that as small as Edos is ,it has more than 30 or more languages and different communities with different identities in the past but developed into learning Bini language? You practically have no knowledge of what you have delved into......

I have seen all your points u raise in arguments, you base your arguments on myths and legends.. it goes to show that you are just a fanatic but not well informed..
I don’t hate yorubas or anybody for that matter. I’m only disgusted by your level of no pride.. you claiming what is not yours just because you want to have some relevance.

Olu317:
Yeah, Yoruba were the ones that frustrated the Brits. Yes, because, Williams who was nominated to the Legislative Council, serving as a member from October 1901, until his death in 1915. In 1903 there was a crisis over the payment of the tolls that were collected from traders by native rulers, although Europeans were exempted. The alternative was to replace the tolls by a subsidy. Governor William MacGregor requested views from Williams, Charles Joseph George and
Obadiah Johnson as indigenous opinion leaders. All were in favour of retaining the tolls to avoid upsetting the rulers. In 1903 governor MacGregor nominated Williams for a knighthood, but his recommendation was turned down. In 1904 Williams moved that "the present boundary between the Colony and Protectorate of Southern Nigeria and the Protectorate of Northern Nigeria be re-adjusted by bringing the southern portion into Southern Nigeria, so that the entire tribes of the Yoruba-speaking people should be under one and the same administration". Sir Frederick Lugard wickedly opposed this proposal on the grounds of administrative convenience, and the eventual decision largely followed his beliefs. Many enlightened set of Yorubas in England( who were in college) , and in Nigeria frustrated, argued, and disobeyed the Brits when Niger- Area, was formed as Nigeria . And for this reason, Yorubas, were divided into Northern and southern by Lord Lugard to frustrate Yorubas. Around 1953, Yoruba told the Parliament through their representative known as Anthony Enahoro and seconded by Obafemi Awolowo, for independence,which was done by the Action group but denied. And in 1958, which was successful was moved by Chief Remilekun Fani-Kayode and Nigeria got her independence, after which, the Brits had no choice but to heed such call.

Proudly Omo Yoruba.

So that means PMB is fighting to preserve that independence, should it matter he is Fulani? All the noble houses of Africa must resist recolonization attempts. Diaposa must resist any plot to undermine the Fatherland, because a tree is nothing without the roots.


Ase

Love Sango

Olu317:
Oh! you come up again with this one ? You are an Edo man that do not know Bini is meaningless in Edo language but of yoruba origin. So you think Anthony Enahoro , didn't believed in Yoruba philosophy despite his Bini- Uromi ancestry ? Anyway, he remained a Yoruba property because from the place he was born is named 'Esan' and (originally, 'E san fia' owes its origin to Bini (meaning, 'they have fled' or 'they jumped away'), É sa fun â/fu hâ/ fun won/ as same with Yoruba words for description of people who run away from somewhere. This just showed that he was from Uromi and shared affinity with Yoruba . He singlehandedly went against creation of mid west being from Yoruba Land. If you don't know, google is your help mate.....A great man he was and will always be in the mindset of Yorubas.

By the way, no Edo person calls himself bini.. it’s a description used by foreigners like you.. when you hear an Edo person calls himself “benin” he means He is from Benin city or Benin kingdom not your “bini tribe” ..
It was Benin Kingdom of Edo people that conquered and ruled Yoruba.

davidnazee:
By the way, no Edo person calls himself bini.. it’s a description used by foreigners like you.. when?you hear an Edo person calls himself “benin” he means He is from Benin city or Benin kingdom not your “bini tribe” ..
It was Benin Kingdom of Edo people that conquered and ruled Yoruba.

You should be totally ignored for this balderdash. How there you say edo conquered Yoruba, when? how? where? Can the conquered named the city that conquered them?that shows the Yoruba helped the Benin to achieve a meaning civilizations. Yoruba never conquered Benin, Yoruba Fathered Benin and you can't change history, no matter how hard you try, young man. lol

davidnazee:
I have seen all your points u raise in arguments, you base your arguments on myths and legends.. it goes to show that you are just a fanatic but not well informed..
I don’t hate yorubas or anybody for that matter. I’m only disgusted by your level of no pride.. you claiming what is not yours just because you want to have some relevance.

Mr monkey Yoruba race is celebrated all over the world , we are pride of Africa ..who will be associated with a loser .. we don't need you people

davidnazee:
By the way, no Edo person calls himself bini.. it’s a description used by foreigners like you.. when you hear an Edo person calls himself “benin” he means He is from Benin city or Benin kingdom not your “bini tribe” ..
It was Benin Kingdom of Edo people that conquered and ruled Yoruba.

So,all Edo people are from Bini lineage and Identify as Oviedo ? For your information, the major first set of languages spoken in your EDO STATE are Edo, Etsako, Esan and Owan, Akoko Edo,Okpameri language and Ijaw. Edo State as it is named is home to several ethnicities, among them the Bini, Esan, Afemai, Emai, and Ijaw. You're seriously in need of enlightenment. Have you not seen people in Edo that don't claim allegiance to Bini? ....I am mocking at your ignorance.

Perharps it is time you shut the hell up. Everybody in the Benin Kingdom is Edo.
That is the name of the people of the Kingdom !
Kindly go and discuss yoruba matters and leave us the Bleep alone !
Edo-state is just a tiny part of Benin Kingdom, now off you go, go and look for your illorin conquered cousins.

Olu317:
So,all Edo people are from Bini and Identify as Oviedo ? You're seriously in need of enlightenment. Have you not seen people in Edo that don't claim allegiance to Bini? ....I am mocking at your ignorance.

geosegun:
You should be totally ignored for this balderdash. How there you say edo conquered Yoruba, when? how? where? Can the conquered named the city that conquered them?that shows the Yoruba helped the Benin to achieve a meaning civilizations. Yoruba never conquered Benin, Yoruba Fathered Benin and you can't change history, no matter how hard you try, young man. lol

How can Yoruba father Benin when Benin city is older than Ife? When Oranmiyan came to Benin as claimed, did he come to empty land or a non existent place?

Olu317:
So,all Edo people are from Bini and Identify as Oviedo ? You're seriously in need of enlightenment. Have you not seen people in Edo that don't claim allegiance to Bini? ....I am mocking at your ignorance.

What is bini? It’s only you yorubas that use that description.. u are really a dumbass.

davidnazee:
What is bini? It’s only you yorubas that use that description.. u are really a dumbass.

So Ijaws are now Edo cum Bini ? Since, you have mentioned “ILORIN COUSINS", What about the Nupe migrants that Islamized Auchi through Jihad ? Mind you, Ilorin was not attacked or sacked by anyone. Ilorin was different from Auchi because Afonja that had a disagreement with Alaafin Oyo in 1817. The difference is clear Edo man!.

davidnazee:
What is bini? It’s only you yorubas that use that description.. u are really a dumbass.

Seem you like being suspended? I know the truth hurts. Be mindful of your attitude online.

davidnazee:
How can Yoruba father Benin when Benin city is older than Ife? When Oranmiyan came to Benin as claimed, did he come to empty land or a non existent place?

The ancestor of your Kings came to a place called Edoland. Ile Ibinu (Bini) is the name he gave the place and is where his descendants and descendants of the hosts of foreigners that came with him settled. It is distinguished. It is the foreigner element that civilized Edo.

prolog2:
Perharps it is time you shut the hell up. Everybody in the Benin Kingdom is Edo.
That is the name of the people of the Kingdom !
Kindly go and discuss yoruba matters and leave us the Bleep alone !
Edo-state is just a tiny part of Benin Kingdom, now off you go, go and look for your illorin conquered cousins.

Let me school you. You have Bini, descendants of Ife settlers, and you have Edo, the aborigines.

When Yoruba talk about our kins we are referring to Binis, not Edos.

Ile Ife, gave birth to Bini civilization which in turn gave birth to Itsekiri, Lagos and Onitsha monarchies.

In Lagos you have two classes of Yoruba - Aworis and Binis, both emigrants from Ife.

In Itsekiri you have two classes of Yoruba - Ijebu, Ilaje and Bini, all emigrants of Ife.

In Onitsha you have a proto-Yoruba monarchy whose ancestors were Ife descendants that settled and civilized Edo before proceeding out of Bini Eastward. Their kins are the monarchies of Ika and Agbor.

In Ijaw you have the ORU, descendants of a people who departed Ife a long time ago.

The Itshekiri, the Ijaw, the Awori, the Ijebu, the Ilajes....all are Molokun. The Awori and the Ilaje are non-warriors but blessed with immense resources. The Ijebu, the Ijaw and the Itshekiris are naval warriors.

In fact all five Molokuns are immensely blessed.


I am yet to hear of a civilization birthed out of Edo. If Yoruba had not settled and civilized your land and opened your eyes you will be the least developed of all peoples of the South. ..shyyte...look where you are today inspite of many centuries of civilized foreign culture in your midst. So imagine where you'd be without one to begin with. The Urhobos, Etsakos, Isokos....all advanced and moving forward independently. You Edos remain narrow and dead-end wasting time preserving a Bini throne that does not need your protection to survive.

Oba does not laugh in public, Oba does not talk in public, Oba does not blink in public, Oba does not step out of palace, Oba does not travel, Oba does not step foot on the ground, Oba does not give speech in public, Oba does not shake hand in public, Oba does not wave in public.
....Oba na doll baby?

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Yeye people!

davidnazee:
By the way, no Edo person calls himself bini.. it’s a description used by foreigners like you.. when you hear an Edo person calls himself “benin” he means He is from Benin city or Benin kingdom not your “bini tribe” ..
It was Benin Kingdom of Edo people that conquered and ruled Yoruba.

Bini is a class, an aristocracy, the class of elites...the pioneers of your civilization! The Edo aborigenes were conquered and subordinated by them.

Its unfortunate you have turned the Bini against their own background to the extent some of them no longer walk with pride of place and nobility in your society. Theyve allowed you to demote their status, they now answer when an Edo is called. They ought only to answer when a call goes out for a Biniman to stand up. They are not in same low class with you....they are your Masters. The descendants of Great princes, warriors, priests, hunters, artistes....pioneers of Bini civilization!

Itsekiri monarchy knows the difference....they claim descent from Bini, never from Edo.

Onitsha monarchy, Agbor, these palaces know who Edo is but yet claim descent from the noble class of Bini.

Lagos monarchy has never ever mentioned Edo as its birther...always Bini.

So the Binis amongst you need to have pride of origin in Ife, the common roots of the many Southern dynasties....in Bini, the birther of pioneers and sovereing powers.....in Lagos, Itsekiri, Onitsha, Agbor....

Dont make me vexx and I have to tutor you here. . Do you hear me?

BabaRamota1980:
Bini is a class, an aristocracy, the class of elites...the pioneers of your civilization! The Edo aborigenes were conquered and subordinated by them.

Its unfortunate you have turned the Bini against their own background to the extent some of them no longer walk with pride of place and nobility in your society. Theyve allowed you to demote their status, they now answer when an Edo is called. They ought only to answer when a call goes out for a Biniman to stand up. They are not in same low class with you....they are your Masters. The descendants of Great princes, warriors, priests, hunters, artistes....pioneers of Bini civilization!

Itsekiri monarchy knows the difference....they claim descent from Bini, never from Edo.

Onitsha monarchy, Agbor, these palaces know who Edo is but yet claim descent from the noble class of Bini.

Lagos monarchy has never ever mentioned Edo as its birther...always Bini.

So the Binis amongst you need to have pride of origin in Ife, the common roots of the many Southern dynasties....in Bini, the birther of pioneers and sovereing powers.....in Lagos, Itsekiri, Onitsha, Agbor....

Dont make me vexx and I have to tutor you here. . Do you hear me?

So was it Bini or Edo that conquered and ruled Yoruba?

davidnazee:
So was it Bini or Edo that conquered and ruled Yoruba?

Bini conquered and enslaved Edo

BabaRamota1980:
Let me school you. You have Bini, descendants of Ife settlers, and you have Edo, the aborigines.

When Yoruba talk about our kins we are referring to Binis, not Edos.

Ile Ife, gave birth to Bini civilization which in turn gave birth to Itsekiri, Lagos and Onitsha monarchies.

In Lagos you have two classes of Yoruba - Aworis and Binis, both emigrants from Ife.

In Itsekiri you have two classes of Yoruba - Ijebu, Ilaje and Bini, all emigrants of Ife.

In Onitsha you have a proto-Yoruba monarchy whose ancestors were Ife descendants that settled and civilized Edo before proceeding out of Bini Eastward. Their kins are the monarchies of Ika and Agbor.

In Ijaw you have the ORU, descendants of a people who departed Ife a long time ago.

The Itshekiri, the Ijaw, the Awori, the Ijebu, the Ilajes....all are Molokun. The Awori and the Ilaje are non-warriors but blessed with immense resources. The Ijebu, the Ijaw and the Itshekiris are naval warriors.

In fact all five Molokuns are immensely blessed.


I am yet to hear of a civilization birthed out of Edo. If Yoruba had not settled and civilized your land and opened your eyes you will be the least developed of all peoples of the South. ..shyyte...look where you are today inspite of many centuries of civilized foreign culture in your midst. So imagine where you'd be without one to begin with. The Urhobos, Etsakos, Isokos....all advanced and moving forward independently. You Edos remain narrow and dead-end wasting time preserving a Bini throne that does not need your protection to survive.

Oba does not laugh in public, Oba does not talk in public, Oba does not blink in public, Oba does not step out of palace, Oba does not travel, Oba does not step foot on the ground, Oba does not give speech in public, Oba does not shake hand in public, Oba does not wave in public.
....Oba na doll baby?

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Yeye people!

Yoruba!!! always trying to claim relevance.. nobody's fault your ancestors could not give you the kind of history you want, now you rely on myths and legends and lies to claim relevance.
what your ancestors could not do in battlefields you guys are doing on nairaland!
Benin kingdom conquered and ruled yoruba.. that is a truth you cannot run away from..

Olu317:
So Ijaws are now Edo cum Bini ? Since, you have mentioned “ILORIN COUSINS", What about the Nupe migrants that Islamized Auchi through Jihad ? Mind you, Ilorin was not attacked or sacked by anyone. Ilorin was different from Auchi because Afonja that had a disagreement with Alaafin Oyo in 1817. The difference is clear Edo man!.

Ilorin was not sacked or attacked but its forever a Fulani territory.. Auchi is ruled by Auchi native unlike Ilorin that is ruled by Fulani..

BabaRamota1980:
Bini is a class, an aristocracy, the class of elites...the pioneers of your civilization! The Edo aborigenes were conquered and subordinated by them.

Its unfortunate you have turned the Bini against their own background to the extent some of them no longer walk with pride of place and nobility in your society. Theyve allowed you to demote their status, they now answer when an Edo is called. They ought only to answer when a call goes out for a Biniman to stand up. They are not in same low class with you....they are your Masters. The descendants of Great princes, warriors, priests, hunters, artistes....pioneers of Bini civilization!

Itsekiri monarchy knows the difference....they claim descent from Bini, never from Edo.

Onitsha monarchy, Agbor, these palaces know who Edo is but yet claim descent from the noble class of Bini.

Lagos monarchy has never ever mentioned Edo as its birther...always Bini.

So the Binis amongst you need to have pride of origin in Ife, the common roots of the many Southern dynasties....in Bini, the birther of pioneers and sovereing powers.....in Lagos, Itsekiri, Onitsha, Agbor....

Dont make me vexx and I have to tutor you here. . Do you hear me?

So will you agree that this Bini you talk so much about conquered and ruled Yorubalands??

geosegun:
You should be totally ignored for this balderdash. How there you say edo conquered Yoruba, when? how? where? Can the conquered named the city that conquered them?that shows the Yoruba helped the Benin to achieve a meaning civilizations. Yoruba never conquered Benin, Yoruba Fathered Benin and you can't change history, no matter how hard you try, young man. lol

Go read and research history.. Eastern Yorubaland was part of Benin Empire.. Benin Empire conquered and ruled all those lands (Ekiti, Ondo, Osun and Lagos).. ask your brothers if you think its a lie..

BabaRamota1980:
Bini conquered and enslaved Edo

and Edo people conquered and ruled Eastern Yorubalands.. about 30% of Eastern Yoruba population is Edo people.. We own those lands by right of conquest.

davidnazee:
Ilorin was not sacked or attacked but its forever a Fulani territory.. Auchi is ruled by Auchi native unlike Ilorin that is ruled by Fulani..

Also Auchi was never islamized through jihad. The Attaru who was an Enogie untill the defeat or demise of Oba Ovonramwen chose to convert to islam and took the title Attaru. Auchi People and their leader are 100 percent Edo. �

davidnazee:
and Edo people conquered and ruled Eastern Yorubalands.. about 30% of Eastern Yoruba population is Edo people.. We own those lands by right of conquest.

Not just eastern yorubaland, we own all of it bro, except oyo which is owned by fullani.

davidnazee:
Go read and research history.. Eastern Yorubaland was part of Benin Empire.. Benin Empire conquered and ruled all those lands (Ekiti, Ondo, Osun and Lagos).. ask your brothers if you think its a lie..

Ekiti People are Edo, Lagos indigenous People are Edo. They were later joined by freed slaves.

BabaRamota1980:
Let me school you.

you can't school People with lies

davidnazee:
So will you agree that this Bini you talk so much about conquered and ruled Yorubalands??

We dont have to answer you. The answer is available in the historical accounts of Itsekiri, Ijaw, Onitsha....unless you want to say everybody in your neighborhood is a liar and Edo is the only one on truth.

prolog2:
you can't school People with lies

I shouldn't have to. Facts abound around you...all the monarchies East and South of you came root in Ife, including Bini. Your monarch just returned from a homage to his ancestors. Next time his trip will be a visit at Oranmiyan's monument.

We have Oduduwa sacred shrine on our land, we have Oranmiyan obelisk on our land, we have Eweka'head on our land.

How come you dont have any of these if you were rightfully the founder of sovereingty?

Even ekaladheran you claim you dont even have anything at all gto his honor. Nothing on Oranmiyan, nothing Eweka. What kind of sovereign power are you?

It shows very clearly that you lacked civilization to found a sovereingty. We cannot find anything Edo in Ife. We have found overwhelming elements of Ife supremacy in Bini.

We have even found overwhelming supporting evidence from those in your neighborhood that Ife is father to Bini.

Need we say more?


Anyway you all still owe me explanation why ekaladheran, your hoax prince, was declared a non-entity in his land.

prolog2:
Ekiti People are Edo, Lagos indigenous People are Edo. They were later joined by freed slaves.

Let Akiolu hear you call his throne "Edo". He is not confused about his roots, nor the genesis of his throne.

prolog2:
Ekiti People are Edo, Lagos indigenous People are Edo. They were later joined by freed slaves.

Are you people even aware that at one time you were raided by Arochukwus,...... Ibos? This was before Ife came to your rescue.

Are you aware of this? You want see the history?