₦airaland Forum

prolog2:
Perharps it is time you shut the hell up. Everybody in the Benin Kingdom is Edo.
That is the name of the people of the Kingdom !
Kindly go and discuss yoruba matters and leave us the Bleep alone !
Edo-state is just a tiny part of Benin Kingdom, now off you go, go and look for your illorin conquered cousins.

Just imagine thought of a typical Edo,who is not of Bini extraction? Is Governor Godwin Obaseki's Chief of Staff, Taiwo Akerele and Special Adviser on Political Matters to the Governor an Edo name?

Is Pawuru and ayiwe an Edo name if not Ijaw's?

I mock at your delusion and ignorance

BabaRamota1980:
Let me school you. You have Bini, descendants of Ife settlers, and you have Edo, the aborigines.

When Yoruba talk about our kins we are referring to Binis, not Edos.

Ile Ife, gave birth to Bini civilization which in turn gave birth to Itsekiri, Lagos and Onitsha monarchies.

In Lagos you have two classes of Yoruba - Aworis and Binis, both emigrants from Ife.

In Itsekiri you have two classes of Yoruba - Ijebu, Ilaje and Bini, all emigrants of Ife.

In Onitsha you have a proto-Yoruba monarchy whose ancestors were Ife descendants that settled and civilized Edo before proceeding out of Bini Eastward. Their kins are the monarchies of Ika and Agbor.

In Ijaw you have the ORU, descendants of a people who departed Ife a long time ago.

The Itshekiri, the Ijaw, the Awori, the Ijebu, the Ilajes....all are Molokun. The Awori and the Ilaje are non-warriors but blessed with immense resources. The Ijebu, the Ijaw and the Itshekiris are naval warriors.

In fact all five Molokuns are immensely blessed.


I am yet to hear of a civilization birthed out of Edo. If Yoruba had not settled and civilized your land and opened your eyes you will be the least developed of all peoples of the South. ..shyyte...look where you are today inspite of many centuries of civilized foreign culture in your midst. So imagine where you'd be without one to begin with. The Urhobos, Etsakos, Isokos....all advanced and moving forward independently. You Edos remain narrow and dead-end wasting time preserving a Bini throne that does not need your protection to survive.

Oba does not laugh in public, Oba does not talk in public, Oba does not blink in public, Oba does not step out of palace, Oba does not travel, Oba does not step foot on the ground, Oba does not give speech in public, Oba does not shake hand in public, Oba does not wave in public.
....Oba na doll baby?

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Yeye people!

Don't over mock Edo because some Edos sees Oba as their almighty God ,and can't be questioned when he does something outrageous because he is seen as without human flaws .Fortunately for us,Yorubas, being an Oba doesn't mean you are flawless but a hereditarily position by the lineages from which such came from and a representative of our ancestors,who is meant to lead uprightly. This is the reason they have one Oba in Bini and suburb but does not affect Oba that reign in few community in Akoko Edo.
These people are bunch of followers...........

prolog2:
Also Auchi was never islamized through jihad. The Attaru who was an Enogie untill the defeat or demise of Oba Ovonramwen chose to convert to islam and took the title Attaru. Auchi People and their leader are 100 percent Edo. �

I never knew the Otaru of Auchi used to be known as Enogie.. thanks for the info.

BabaRamota1980:
We dont have to answer you. The answer is available in the historical accounts of Itsekiri, Ijaw, Onitsha....unless you want to say everybody in your neighborhood is a liar and Edo is the only one on truth.

Historical accounts of Itsekiri, ijaws and Onitsha? So you agree now that Yoruba don’t have any reliable historical accounts only myths and legends lol.

BabaRamota1980:
Are you people even aware that at one time you were raided by Arochukwus,...... Ibos? This was before Ife came to your rescue.

Are you aware of this? You want see the history?

Is it the same Ibos that is now taking over Lagos you claim to be Yoruba? You guys have been relegated to the slums.

davidnazee:
Historical accounts of Itsekiri, ijaws and Onitsha? So you agree now that Yoruba don’t have any reliable historical accounts only myths and legends lol.

Abeg answer the real question and stop derailing.

Your so called legend of Edoland, ekaladheran, wetin hin do to earn ban and expupsion?

Edo history is central on ekaladheran. So share with us.

Olu317:
Just imagine thought of a typical Edo,who is not of Bini extraction? Is Governor Godwin Obaseki; Chief of Staff, Taiwo Akerele and Special Adviser on Political Matters to the Governor an Edo name?

Is Pawuru and ayiwe an Edo name if not Ijaw's?

I mock at your delusion and ignorance

that guy na IPOB..NO BE EDO NA IBO !

geosegun:
You should be totally ignored for this balderdash. How there you say edo conquered Yoruba, when? how? where? Can the conquered named the city that conquered them?that shows the Yoruba helped the Benin to achieve a meaning civilizations. Yoruba never conquered Benin, Yoruba Fathered Benin and you can't change history, no matter how hard you try, young man. lol

My heart....what did you just say that the biggest joke of the century....

Keep believing on ur sky diving myth...

Benin father yoruba and conquered it also and name it ile ni ife( i ran and saw sucess) it was miss interoreted by the yorubas as land of love which doesn't rythm ....historians will tell you with no bias benin founded ife....

It was even claimed by Yoruba's that onnis head were been buried at obas palace this shows seniority over yorubas....we are still waiting for the oba head at ife.....

Cunniest tribe yoruba my foot

davidnazee:
I never knew the Otaru of Auchi used to be known as Enogie.. thanks for the info.

Lol....he was neverd know as enogie people given enogie was chiefs around the benin city at old but people far from benin city was given a different title like obi of onitscha,iselukwu of ubulukwu,eleko of eko ,uteru of auchi,....

And so many titles of kings in edo regions ...

And the origin of Islam in auchi was as a result usman dan fo dio spread of islam towards auchi and waz advancing to edo central amd benin armies attacked them away ...through socialism from kogi and other areas around auchi which already lslamise auchi accept it through socialism

BabaRamota1980:
Are you people even aware that at one time you were raided by Arochukwus,...... Ibos? This was before Ife came to your rescue.

Are you aware of this? You want see the history?

Benin was never raided as claimed by you in fact must part of Igbo land was also under the Benin Empire. I mean must part of Igbo land from Anambra to Abia. Below is how a native of present day Abia State described his origin in 1745.

Olaudah Equiano was born in Essaka, an Igbo village in the kingdom of Benin (now Nigeria) in 1745. His father was one of the province's elders who decided disputes. According to James Walvin "Equiano described his father as a local Igbo eminence and slave owner".

In case you don't know who Olaudah Equiano was, he was the first black person to write his autobiography. Google him for more information about him.

Olu317:
No problem. But I will like to refer you to absolutesuccess and metaphysical also

Thanks very much my prince.

gregyboy:
Lol....he was neverd know as enogie people given enogie was chiefs around the benin city at old but people far from benin city was given a different title like obi of onitscha,iselukwu of ubulukwu,eleko of eko ,uteru of auchi,....

And so many titles of kings in edo regions ...

And the origin of Islam in auchi was as a result usman dan fo dio spread of islam towards auchi and waz advancing to edo central amd benin armies attacked them away ...through socialism from kogi and other areas around auchi which already lslamise auchi accept it through socialism

There is only one title of King in Benin Kingdom of which Auchi is a part. I don't know the exact title the Attaru of Auchi had before the british invasion, but I know he wasn't a muslim and he was a loyal subject to his King. Auchi being purely Edo, I don't see why the title of its duke would be anything other than Enogie. No part of Benin Kingdom was successfully invaded by the Fulani who were already struggling against the weakling yoruba armies. European observer even said that thé Fulani expansion could'nt go any further.

Olu317:
Just imagine thought of a typical Edo,who is not of Bini extraction? Is Governor Godwin Obaseki; Chief of Staff, Taiwo Akerele and Special Adviser on Political Matters to the Governor an Edo name?

Is Pawuru and ayiwe an Edo name if not Ijaw's?

I mock at your delusion and ignorance

You are so daft I Wonder how you manage to type.
Gov Obaseki's great grand father is chief Agho Obaseki.
À little bit of research would have told you the name Obaseki was give to Chief Agho by Oba Ovonramwen, and that Chief Agho grew up in Oba palace and served the Oba. Your attempt at division is incredibly lame. The Oba of Benin is the number 1# Edo. We are all Edo, including Urhobo, Isoko, Esan, Anioma...

prolog2:
You are so daft I Wonder how you manage to type.
Gov Obaseki's great grand father is chef Agho Obaseki.
À little bit of research would have told you the name Obaseki was give to Chief Agho by Oba Ovonramwen, and that Chief Agho grew up in Oba palace and served the Oba. Your attempt at division is incredibly lame. The Oba of Benin is the number 1# Edo. We are all Edo, including Urhobo, Isoko, Esan, Anioma...

Slave blood, it is Obvious you are not lettered and disrespectful. I really see the pain you go through because the truth is glaring before you. If you called me a daft, what about omo n' oba ? What will you call someone like him, who didn't do proper research but spoke with his two sides of his mouth by claiming Odua was Igodomigodo indigene but Oba as a title was a name that came from Yoruba land (ile Ife)? Thereafter,he went to Ile Ife and reenacted his commitment to Ooni's throne because his patrilineal lineage (Oranmiyan) descendants are the ones that sit on that throne centuries. I know you are a Young man and I implore you to go back to school to learn the etymology of name as Taiwo Akerele? Do Edo know the meaning of Taiwo if it isnt a Yoruba name? Ijaws arent Edos but own ancestral land in Edo state. A blatant liar you remain.

absoluteSuccess:
Thanks very much my prince.

I salute you too my brother. I recognise you, Obalufon's Prince.

Cheers

Olu317:
I salute you too my brother. I recognise you, Obalufon's Prince.

Cheers

So u be prince Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

prolog2:
There is only one title of King in Benin Kingdom of which Auchi is a part. I don't know the exact title the Attaru of Auchi had before the british invasion, but I know he wasn't a muslim and he was a loyal subject to his King. Auchi being purely Edo, I don't see why the title of its duke would be anything other than Enogie. No part of Benin Kingdom was successfully invaded by the Fulani who were already struggling against the weakling yoruba armies. European observer even said that thé Fulani expansion could'nt go any further.

Is orhobo not part of edo ...wat of irrua,and parts of eshan but they bear different name from enogie .enogie was within d bini territory.... As for the auchi how did they get islamized if jihadist nevered came and why was edo central not islamized too why did kogi is an islam region ...lets talk with fact not fairytales

gregyboy:
Is orhobo not part of edo ...wat of irrua,and parts of eshan but they bear different name from enogie .enogie was within d bini territory.... As for the auchi how did they get islamized if jihadist nevered came and why was edo central not islamized too why did kogi is an islam region ...lets talk with fact not fairytales

I am not known for speaking about fairytales. You are the one who is jumping into conclusions with mere speculations. I have told you what is. Remain blessed. The conversion of the Attaru is récent enough to have left paper traces. I read one of those 3 years ago.

samuk:
Benin was never raided as claimed by you in fact must part of Igbo land was also under the Benin Empire. I mean must part of Igbo land from Anambra to Abia. Below is how a native of present day Abia State described his origin in 1745.

Olaudah Equiano was born in Essaka, an Igbo village in the kingdom of Benin (now Nigeria) in 1745. His father was one of the province's elders who decided disputes. According to James Walvin "Equiano described his father as a local Igbo eminence and slave owner".

In case you don't know who Olaudah Equiano was, he was the first black person to write his autobiography. Google him for more information about him.

yeah Benin ruled over human eating naked people ..savages

Obalufon:
yeah Benin ruled over human eating naked people ..savages

So the vast number of Yoruba lands and people Great Benin ruled was unclad savages?

davidnazee:
So the vast number of Yoruba lands and people Great Benin ruled was unclad savages?

never ruled Yoruba land they were paying tribute to the throne being a lineage of oduduwa nothing more son. never by war..

Obalufon:
never ruled Yoruba land they were paying tribute to the throne being a lineage of oduduwa nothing more son. never by war..

Really?? Never by war?
So what’s the meaning of this;

Every town or village under him (Ewi) except Ijan were prepared to fight…The Benin soldiers stormed Igbara-Odo and Ilawe and took them. At this time, Ado town had been vacated. Aroloye took the people to a place called Oke Oko Axis between Ifaki and Iworok..
The soldiers pitched their camps near Uyin (Iyin)…Ogbesi Okun, the then Oluyin …was conquered and killed. They proceeded to Igede, Awo and Esure and took them. The inhabitants of Igede then uder Okiribiti were driven in a north-easternly direction to a place called Oke Asha…Edo troops then marched to Iworoko…The soldiers entered Are…The same fate befell Afao. They were all taken to Ikere. The soldiers moved to Igbemo …entered Igbo-Omoba (now Ilu-Omoba)…The soldiers left Aisegba for Agbado and without delay took it and evacuated the people. Agbado was the last place under the Ewi. With the conquest, of Agbado, the soldiers seemed to have finished their job..
Ewi Idagunmodo (1696-1710), Ewi Okinbaloye Aritawekun (1710-1722), Ewi Amono Ola (1722-1762), Ewi Afunbiowo (1762-1781), Ewi Akulojuorun (1781-1808), Ewi Aroloye (1808-1836) who reigned at Ado but were attacked successively by Benin hordes…‘During the reign of Ewi Aroloye, Ado-Ewi’s kingdom witnessed massive dislocation across the terrain as town dwellers and villagers ran for safety in different directions. Many of the captives from Iworoko, Are, Afao, Ugboomoba (now Ilumoba) and Agbado were taken to Ukere by Benin invaders

…the rapid expansion of Ado brought it into conflict with Benin, another power with imperialistic designs in Ekiti. Responding to the invitation by Ado’s neighbouring states who had become unduly alarmed by the consolidation and excesses of the Ewi’s power, Benin army invaded and subjugated Ado in addition to overrunning most of the other Ekiti states some of whose ruling dynasties, as in Ikere, were replaced…’’"’

Eastern Yorubalands will remain part of Benin Kingdom..

Obalufon:
never ruled Yoruba land they were paying tribute to the throne being a lineage of oduduwa nothing more son. never by war..

and this;

The Olowo (i.e. the traditional ruler of Owo) sent tributes to Benin annually through a resident official and the Owo people had to pay to the Oba of Benin obeisance customarily due to an oba. For instance, in most parts of the Yoruba country any hunter who killed a tiger or leopard had to give it up to his oba. In Owo, any hunter who killed either of these animals had to carry it to the Oba of Benin.’ Akintoye adds that ‘Owo was made to surrender its princes as hostages in the Benin court. Many Owo rulers therefore had Benin education and were responsible for introducing Benin culture to Owo. This is why Owo shows much stronger evidence of Benin cultural influence, especially in palace ritual and manners, than other towns in the area under study.’""

davidnazee:
and this;

The Olowo (i.e. the traditional ruler of Owo) sent tributes to Benin annually through a resident official and the Owo people had to pay to the Oba of Benin obeisance customarily due to an oba. For instance, in most parts of the Yoruba country any hunter who killed a tiger or leopard had to give it up to his oba. In Owo, any hunter who killed either of these animals had to carry it to the Oba of Benin.’ Akintoye adds that ‘Owo was made to surrender its princes as hostages in the Benin court. Many Owo rulers therefore had Benin education and were responsible for introducing Benin culture to Owo. This is why Owo shows much stronger evidence of Benin cultural influence, especially in palace ritual and manners, than other towns in the area under study.’""

talk about ruling anambra to abia they are your kinsmen

ife olori aye gbo gbo

Obalufon:
talk about ruling anambra to abia they are your kinsmen

Yes they are and also Eastern Yoruba is Edo land.. anywhere there is Edo people is Edo land.

davidnazee:
Yes they are and also Eastern Yoruba is Edo land.. anywhere there is Edo people is Edo land.

If you are so sure of all this your fairytale,tell your Edo kinsmen to go and wage war against the Eastern Yorubaland and claim the place if they will ever return back to Edo. Isn't it disgraceful for Edos, to answer Yoruba names except such probably has a Yoruba ancestry? And here you are sending trash online...

davidnazee:
Really?? Never by war?
So what’s the meaning of this;

Every town or village under him (Ewi) except Ijan were prepared to fight…The Benin soldiers stormed Igbara-Odo and Ilawe and took them. At this time, Ado town had been vacated. Aroloye took the people to a place called Oke Oko Axis between Ifaki and Iworok..
The soldiers pitched their camps near Uyin (Iyin)…Ogbesi Okun, the then Oluyin …was conquered and killed. They proceeded to Igede, Awo and Esure and took them. The inhabitants of Igede then uder Okiribiti were driven in a north-easternly direction to a place called Oke Asha…Edo troops then marched to Iworoko…The soldiers entered Are…The same fate befell Afao. They were all taken to Ikere. The soldiers moved to Igbemo …entered Igbo-Omoba (now Ilu-Omoba)…The soldiers left Aisegba for Agbado and without delay took it and evacuated the people. Agbado was the last place under the Ewi. With the conquest, of Agbado, the soldiers seemed to have finished their job..
Ewi Idagunmodo (1696-1710), Ewi Okinbaloye Aritawekun (1710-1722), Ewi Amono Ola (1722-1762), Ewi Afunbiowo (1762-1781), Ewi Akulojuorun (1781-1808), Ewi Aroloye (1808-1836) who reigned at Ado but were attacked successively by Benin hordes…‘During the reign of Ewi Aroloye, Ado-Ewi’s kingdom witnessed massive dislocation across the terrain as town dwellers and villagers ran for safety in different directions. Many of the captives from Iworoko, Are, Afao, Ugboomoba (now Ilumoba) and Agbado were taken to Ukere by Benin invaders

…the rapid expansion of Ado brought it into conflict with Benin, another power with imperialistic designs in Ekiti. Responding to the invitation by Ado’s neighbouring states who had become unduly alarmed by the consolidation and excesses of the Ewi’s power, Benin army invaded and subjugated Ado in addition to overrunning most of the other Ekiti states some of whose ruling dynasties, as in Ikere, were replaced…’’"’

Eastern Yorubalands will remain part of Benin Kingdom..

And this source, you quoted that didn't have accurate information seem too good to be true because Bini's footprint was halted by Oluusi and Laade..Their footprint is always a part of Ado Ekiti. So you think everything is documented on journal or authored work on clans in Ekiti? I mock you because, this your non realistic fairytale is beyond redemption. If not self believe in the true account of Yoruba history by some few elements of Bini descendants in Yoruba land . Do you not wonder why one bini prince's settlement amongst Yoruba that, they pay homage to ILE IFE and not Bini? The truth is that Bini remained Yoruba property and Edo isn't ours.

[quote author=Olu317 post=67865386]If you are so sure of all this your fairytale,tell your Edo kinsmen to go and wage war against the Eastern Yorubaland and claim the place if they will ever return back to Edo. Isn't it disgraceful for Edos, to answer Yoruba names except such probably has a Yoruba ancestry? And here you are sending trash online...[/quo

edo are being envious

davidnazee:
Yes they are and also Eastern Yoruba is Edo land.. anywhere there is Edo people is Edo land.

Edos youth lack knowledge your forefathers see Yorubas as their kinsmen but now you people have been ibonized successfully assimilated by the ibos..your blood is filled with hatred towards Yoruba .. Stop hating stop envying ""Enviousness.. we don't want you..and you don't speak for all edos ..

Olu317:
If you are so sure of all this your fairytale,tell your Edo kinsmen to go and wage war against the Eastern Yorubaland and claim the place if they will ever return back to Edo. Isn't it disgraceful for Edos, to answer Yoruba names except such probably has a Yoruba ancestry? And here you are sending trash online...

My brother don’t pray for war with the Edos.. only the ethnic Edos in Eastern Yorubaland will be a problem for the Yorubas not to talk of the entire Edo armies marching down on Yorubas..
If Nigeria breaks apart Eastern Yoruba will be war zone because we taking what is ours back..

[quote author=Obalufon post=67867562][/quote]It’s you yorubas that are envious of Edos. Our history is filled with stories of our might, our conquests, expansion, colonization, advancements and civilization and our relationships with the rest of the world.. something the Yorubas couldn’t achieve..