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davidnazee:
Maybe if I explain things point by point Yorubas will understand..

1. Great Benin kingdom conquered and ruled Eastern Yoruba
2. Yoruba towns and villages were sacked and burnt by Benin armies.
3. Yorubas were taken hostages by Benin and resettled in different places (like Babylon did Israelites)
4. Yoruba Obas were paying tributes to the Oba of Benin.
5. Yoruba princes in lands under Benin control were required to serve as slaves in our palace before they could go back home to be king
6. About 40% of Eastern Yoruba are Edo people making eastern Yoruba Edo lands.
7. When Benin armies are coming whole towns and villages are evacuated and the people flee into bushes and mountains to hide.
8. Benin kingdom saw the birth and brutal death of Oyo.

You remain my subject, tiny edo man

Moorish:
You remain my subject, tiny edo man

tiny edo kingdom

davidnazee:
Maybe if I explain things point by point Yorubas will understand..

1. Great Benin kingdom conquered and ruled Eastern Yoruba
2. Yoruba towns and villages were sacked and burnt by Benin armies.
3. Yorubas were taken hostages by Benin and resettled in different places (like Babylon did Israelites)
4. Yoruba Obas were paying tributes to the Oba of Benin.
5. Yoruba princes in lands under Benin control were required to serve as slaves in our palace before they could go back home to be king
6. About 40% of Eastern Yoruba are Edo people making eastern Yoruba Edo lands.
7. When Benin armies are coming whole towns and villages are evacuated and the people flee into bushes and mountains to hide.
8. Benin kingdom saw the birth and brutal death of Oyo.

you just fought with the eastern Yoruba nothing more ....that's is your achievement ..you people are trapped within the jungle you don't know what the hell is going outside the world we had trader that are traveling around Africa .. ..i can't blame a forest groom kingdom that didn't domesticate any beast of burden camel /donkey and horse or has a leverage above it's temporary on technical military skills, no powerful armor cavalry to expand its kingdom to level of an empire claiming they burnt or conquer a race that introduce civilization to them a race that is much advance than them ..your oba throne was revered not feared base on your military power capability ekiti alone will wreck hell on your kingdom..ogedengbe seized the whole of eastern edo your oba pleaded he didn't attack he negotiated to support him he didn't declare outright war .ogedengbe can't disrespect the throne he accepted his offer

Obalufon:
you just fought with the eastern Yoruba nothing more ....that's is your achievement ..you people are trapped within the jungle you don't know what the hell is going outside the world we had trader that are traveling around Africa .. ..i can't blame a forest groom kingdom that didn't domesticate any beast of burden camel /donkey and horse or has a leverage above it's temporary on technical military skills, no powerful armor cavalry to expand its kingdom to level of an empire claiming they burnt or conquer a race that introduce civilization to them a race that is much advance than them ..your oba throne was revered not feared base on your military power capability ekiti alone will wreck hell on your kingdom..ogedengbe seized the whole of eastern edo your oba pleaded he didn't attack he negotiated to support him he didn't declare outright war .ogedengbe can't disrespect the throne he accepted his offer

Bro, you said something that I agree with 100%

God sees my heart

You said at its peak, the Benin kingdom would have been wrecked by ekiti

I honestly agree with that assertion. I just feel it

But it seems ekiti respected those Benin guys because our brother was on their throne

Moorish:
Bro, you said something that I agree with 100%

God sees my heart

You said at its peak, the Benin kingdom would have been wrecked by ekiti

I honestly agree with that assertion. I just feel it

But it seems ekiti respected those Benin guys because our brother was on their throne

most of ekiti throne has oduduwa lineage from Benin most Benin prince are crown king in ekiti they have a ruling house in ekiti that are bini lineage Benin na our brothers they are just being ibonized now that is why i want the country to breakup and let them join with the east they will be begging us later..edo influence in eastern omodua region is not by arm but obeisances to the throne of oduduwa

Obalufon:
most of ekiti throne has oduduwa lineage from Benin most Benin prince are crown king in ekiti they have a ruling house in ekiti that are bini lineage Benin na our brothers they are just being ibonized now that is why i want the country to breakup and let them join with the east they will be begging us later..edo influence in eastern omodua region is not by arm but obeisances to the throne of oduduwa

Do you know the origin of Oduduwa and his chain story? Let me tell u;

When Ekhaladeran was released into exile he still had the chains he was bound with when he was initially inprisoned. He had the chains on him when he wandered into Ife.
It was this chains the people of Ife saw on him a stranger who had knowledge of herbs and mystic powers so they assumed he came down from the sky with the chains!!
So my friends you now see that ;
Ekhaladeran + chains + mystic knowledge = Oduduwa from the sky!

davidnazee:
Do you know the origin of Oduduwa and his chain story? Let me tell u;

When Ekhaladeran was released into exile he still had the chains he was bound with when he was initially inprisoned. He had the chains on him when he wandered into Ife.
It was this chains the people of Ife saw on him a stranger who had knowledge of herbs and mystic powers so they assumed he came down from the sky with the chains!!
So my friends you now see that ;
Ekhaladeran + chains + mystic knowledge = Oduduwa from the sky!

shut up oduduwa chain myth was long after is death not just ur recent conjunction soon u will tell us that sango myth was due to one Benin chief or Ogun myth was the doing of the then Benin king. U have made no sense not once before in this thread.

Moneywomen17:
shut up oduduwa chain myth was long after is death not just ur recent conjunction soon u will tell us that sango myth was due to one Benin chief or Ogun myth was the doing of the then Benin king. U have made no sense not once before in this thread.

So whose logic makes more sense?
Is it the Yoruba story of ododuwa descending from the sky with chains or my true story of Ekhaladeran in exile wandering into Ife with his chains still on him?

I’m only trying to help the Yorubas discover their true history.

davidnazee:
So whose logic makes more sense?
Is it the Yoruba story of ododuwa descending from the sky with chains or my true story of Ekhaladeran in exile wandering into Ife with his chains still on him?

I’m only trying to help the Yorubas discover their true history.

u have no logic nor true story. U made up things from ur imagination. Ur ekhaladeran was eaten by animals in the Benin forest different from oduduwa ife who was deify after his death like several others in Yoruba history.

Moorish:


I had left this thread before oh

Olu leave that clown he is a troll

I just got to answer him but not anymore. He has even tried to drag me into Egyptians history. I just wonder how these clowns can really learn be taught. Little do these clowns realised that Alexander the great didn't live for a long time before he died at age 32 and his method of conquest were not too heavily on war against some nations but his fame and conquest of Persia made many trembled and gave up their right as sovereign state and up end as vassal states under Alexander the great. Honestly, there are Edo children like minded on this thread....
I mock them so seriously.


Cheers

davidnazee:
Do you know the origin of Oduduwa and his chain story? Let me tell u;

When Ekhaladeran was released into exile he still had the chains he was bound with when he was initially inprisoned. He had the chains on him when he wandered into Ife.
It was this chains the people of Ife saw on him a stranger who had knowledge of herbs and mystic powers so they assumed he came down from the sky with the chains!!
So my friends you now see that ;
Ekhaladeran + chains + mystic knowledge = Oduduwa from the sky!

oduduwa ..is a title we have 2 story of oduduwa ..oduduwa the creator and oduduwa the king olofiin adimula...we have ogun the irumole and ogun the king we have sango the irimole oranfe and sango the king alafin Tela oko...oduduwa the creator descend through golden chain to create the world ..likewise other deities in yoruba land..osun olokun. oya ...people do answer the name ogun it doesn't make them ogun the irumole

Obalufon:
oduduwa ..is a title we have 2 story of oduduwa ..oduduwa the creator and oduduwa the king olofiin adimula...we have ogun the irumole and ogun the king we have sango the irimole oranfe and sango the king alafin Tela oko...oduduwa the creator descend through golden chain to create the world ..likewise other deities in yoruba land

hmm so Yoruba have 2 Oduduwas? If one is the creator then the other one must be Ekhaladeran who became king in Ife.

Olu317:
I just got to answer him but not anymore. He has even tried to drag me into Egyptians history. I just wonder how these clowns can really learn be taught. Little do these clowns realised that Alexander the great didn't live for a long time before he died at age 32 and his method of conquest were not too heavily on war against some nations but his fame and conquest of Persia made many trembled and gave up their right as sovereign state and up end as vassal states under Alexander the great. Honestly, there are Edo children like minded on this thread....
I mock them so seriously.


Cheers

That is exactly how other kingdoms view Great Benin Kingdom and capitulated without a fight.. Many Yoruba kingdoms cane under Benin rule like that.. Others that stood against Benin were destroyed.

Good morning all my brothers!

Love is the key

davidnazee:
That is exactly how other kingdoms view Great Benin Kingdom and capitulated without a fight.. Many Yoruba kingdoms cane under Benin rule like that.. Others that stood against Benin were destroyed.

You keep touting this lie without any references to any literature whatsoever. I should remind you that sources, primary & secondary, do not agree with your claim up there.

Follow me:

1. Starting with Owo. Though a Yoruba border town to Bini, it had cultural exchanges with Bini but was at no time conquered. Rather it was a rebel town that refused to be subjected to Bini’s yoke. It gave Bini its indigenous Yoruba ivory arts & Bini gave it her indigenous state costume.

2. Next is Ekiti. Ekiti is not a single entity and it was at no time unified. Ekiti contains original 16 kings with 16 towns in addition to several others. Ekiti is very far walking distance to Bini. Some Ekiti fringe towns experienced periodic Bini invasions. However, these towns revolted after a shortwhile because Ekiti to Bini was too far for Bini army to get reinforcement. Colonialists, Foreign researchers & local Historians have done work on this. In certain Ekiti fringe towns, Bini quarters exist there, these Bini army, after Ekiti revolts relinquish their military occupation and settle with indigenes rather than moving back to Bini.

3. Akure is next. Akure’s throne was of Ife origin but reinvigorated by a certain Owa Ilesa. Bini invaded this town but it did not settle. Bini’s invasion was more of punitive than occupational.

4. Lagos Island is another Yoruba town. When the Bini soldier came back to the Island with reinforcements from Bini, he was well received and allowed to settle with his people on the patch of land where he could secure his people traveling through on the waters. This was not a conquest and the Bini representative ruled his Bini followers. Awori carried on with their lives under Olotto & several other Awori kings. This Bini representative on Lagos Island paid tributes to Bini. None of the Yoruba-Awori king had anything to do with Bini until Yoruba infiltrated & took over the Lagos Island seat through the Ijesa Ifa priest, the father to the dysnasty that has occupied the throne.

5. Epe is an Ijebu land in present-day Lagos. Bini, after being allowed to settle attempted a military expedition in greater ‘Lagos’ - according to a German explorer whose name I cannot remember right now. However its expansionist agenda ended when it engaged Epe in war & was badly beaten. Epe which was one of Yoruba’s ‘naval’ towns were very familiar with the waterways in their domain and they used it to their advantage to smash Bini army.

6. Itsekiri is another Yoruba town that had military contact with Bini. There are records of how Itsekiri humiliated Bini in an unforgettable war that shook Bini army to its core. Bini never confronted Itsekiri ever after this war.

Conclusively, Bini’s emergence which coincided with Oyo’s collapse provided it with the right timing and points of interest to try its hands on expansionism with. Although Bini’s army had some incursion into the Eastern part of Yorubaland. It however failed in its military attempts but recorded a bit of success in cultural exchanges through diplomatic relations. Thus, Bini’s presence in Yorubaland has been due to its historical ties to Yoruba kings and the attendant diplomatic relations they share rather than military conquests which were not sustainable and as a result, ephemeral.

Moorish:
Love is the key

Love established in falsehood is no love. It is deceitful tolerance.

Y0ruba:
Love established in falsehood is no love. It is deceitful tolerance.

If you read my first post I said "Good morning my brothers"

"Love is the key" is only extended to my brothers also

davidnazee:
Do you know the origin of Oduduwa and his chain story? Let me tell u;

When Ekhaladeran was released into exile he still had the chains he was bound with when he was initially inprisoned. He had the chains on him when he wandered into Ife.
It was this chains the people of Ife saw on him a stranger who had knowledge of herbs and mystic powers so they assumed he came down from the sky with the chains!!
So my friends you now see that ;
Ekhaladeran + chains + mystic knowledge = Oduduwa from the sky!

That didn't make any sense

Honestly

davidnazee:
Do you know the origin of Oduduwa and his chain story? Let me tell u;

When Ekhaladeran was released into exile he still had the chains he was bound with when he was initially inprisoned. He had the chains on him when he wandered into Ife.
It was this chains the people of Ife saw on him a stranger who had knowledge of herbs and mystic powers so they assumed he came down from the sky with the chains!!
So my friends you now see that ;
Ekhaladeran + chains + mystic knowledge = Oduduwa from the sky!

Do you know the origin of the chain story? Are you aware that your Oduduwa chain revisionism is similar to, Arabs claiming Adam was their son who was to be killed & was buried alive with his head sticking out of the soil but Jews found him and claimed he was made out of dust by YHWH? Do you see how stupid it sounds hinging your own true history on the spiritual story of another group? You should spank your king

Permit me to disappoint you that the chain story is Yoruba’s creation story in Yoruba religion. Also permit me to break your heart that in the creation story, Obatala, Orunmila & a number of irunmole descended followed Oduduwa on that chain. May I also break your heart that when they landed, Ogun used his machete to clear the pathway for these irunmoles. Did your king know of this full data of the creation story? Did your king also know there are creation stories saying Orunmila created the world & descended on chain? That Obataka created the world & descended on the chain? That Oramfe created the world & also came down on a dangling chain? . Or is every deity with chain featured in their creation story the same as your lost prince? Ask your king

The actual story of Oduduwa is that of a man who lived on one of the hills under his lineage like many other people in Ife did before the civil war. Ife’s 13 communities know members of its lineages & they all know those who came from elsewhere. Ifes know themselves & does not integrate outsiders. This is the case with Owu, Iraye, Modakeke, Hausa, Ijebu & so on. Rather than bring you, they would rather give you a place to settle with your people. If Oduduwa was from Bini, Ife folks would record it, believe this. Did your king know Ife was already a thriving center with independent towns?

Also, keep in mind that, Ife before had Kings, powerful ones. They were deeply spiritual and did sacrifices daily. What makes you & your people think these kings readily accepted a wanderer & that these deeply spiritual people did not use him as a sacrifice? People did not wander around Ife anyhow back in the day, that was the fastest way to become a deity’s food. What makes you think, if he ever got to Ife, he did not end up as a victim of ritual killing?

Also, did you & your king know Oduduwa had children before the civil war? If not, let me gleefully inform you that Oduduwa, the Ife guy, had children before war broke out. In the early days of his struggle with Obatala, one of his kids was poisoned by Oreluere. This move had an impact on Oduduwa’s pursuit of the war, he began negotiating & seeking help. Oreluere leveraged on this to demand terms favourable to Obatala & his co-travellers. Did your king know that your lost son had children & while bound in chains, took them across the deep forest till he got to Ife?

I do not think this or anything will convince you to see the fallacy in your narrative or drop it. I’ll however ask you to list or at least ask your elders to tell what relations & knowledge of Ife your people had that made your lost prince wander to Ife?

We can start from here.

Moorish:
If you read my first post I said "Good morning my brothers"

"Love is the key" is only extended to my brothers also

I treated the posts differently but OK.

Y0ruba:
Love established in falsehood is no love. It is deceitful tolerance.

I am only just studying the owo kingdom

Did owo birth benin??

Their arts are so similar, and the owo arts and crafts look like the original!!!

Olodumare blessed us oh!

Imagine if we unite!

Moorish:
I am only just studying the owo kingdom

Did owo birth benin??

Their arts are so similar, and the owo arts and crafts look like the original!!!

Olodumare blessed us oh!

Imagine if we unite!

Art historians & archeologists all agreed that Owo arts are of Ife origins & preceded that of Bini. The proximity they share resulted in the influences they both had on each other.

I don’t know if Owo birthed Bini.

Y0ruba:
Do you know the origin of the chain story? Are you aware that your Oduduwa chain revisionism is similar to, Arabs claiming Adam was their son who was to be killed & was buried alive with his head sticking out of the soil but Jews found him and claimed he was made out of dust by YHWH? Do you see how stupid it sounds hinging your own true history on the spiritual story of another group? You should spank your king

Permit me to disappoint you that the chain story is Yoruba’s creation story in Yoruba religion. Also permit me to break your heart that in the creation story, Obatala, Orunmila & a number of irunmole descended followed Oduduwa on that chain. May I also break your heart that when they landed, Ogun used his machete to clear the pathway for these irunmoles. Did your king know of this full data of the creation story? Did your king also know there are creation stories saying Orunmila created the world & descended on chain? That Obataka created the world & descended on the chain? That Oramfe created the world & also came down on a dangling chain? . Or is every deity with chain featured in their creation story the same as your lost prince? Ask your king

The actual story of Oduduwa is that of a man who lived on one of the hills under his lineage like many other people in Ife did before the civil war. Ife’s 13 communities know members of its lineages & they all know those who came from elsewhere. Ifes know themselves & does not integrate outsiders. This is the case with Owu, Iraye, Modakeke, Hausa, Ijebu & so on. Rather than bring you, they would rather give you a place to settle with your people. If Oduduwa was from Bini, Ife folks would record it, believe this. Did your king know Ife was already a thriving center with independent towns?

Also, keep in mind that, Ife before had Kings, powerful ones. They were deeply spiritual and did sacrifices daily. What makes you & your people think these kings readily accepted a wanderer & that these deeply spiritual people did not use him as a sacrifice? People did not wander around Ife anyhow back in the day, that was the fastest way to become a deity’s food. What makes you think, if he ever got to Ife, he did not end up as a victim of ritual killing?

Also, did you & your king know Oduduwa had children before the civil war? If not, let me gleefully inform you that Oduduwa, the Ife guy, had children before war broke out. In the early days of his struggle with Obatala, one of his kids was poisoned by Oreluere. This move had an impact on Oduduwa’s pursuit of the war, he began negotiating & seeking help. Oreluere leveraged on this to demand terms favourable to Obatala & his co-travellers. Did your king know that your lost son had children & while bound in chains, took them across the deep forest till he got to Ife?

I do not think this or anything will convince you to see the fallacy in your narrative or drop it. I’ll however ask you to list or at least ask your elders to tell what relations & knowledge of Ife your people had that made your lost prince wander to Ife?

We can start from here.

That is the problem with benin "scholarship"

No facts, no literary sources, no logic, just claims!

I usually believed their narrative, because I was born in their territory.. Since I came on this thread, You brothers have given me power to conquer these enemies to the east because now I have the knowledge, we are the sons of odduduwa, A god! A civilizer, a mighty one!

I have a lot to be proud of

The Owo kingdom has some beautiful arts

All I need now is a yoruba queen who can bring me into my culture!

I am also mixing up with true omoluabis for the first time in my life here in lagos

Man I did see some dark days in the old bendel land


i also had some good days, and I count one or two bendel sons as my brothers but the guys on this thread have made me rethink my benevolence

#FamilyFirst

Bro, I am going to send you a message if you don't mind

The reason benin feel important is because the white man used you

Benin people are a disgrace to the black race

It was the oba of benin that sold yoruba and Igbo sons to the white man during the slave trade, research it this is pure fact!

Benin people did not go into the slave trade

You see igbo and yoruba music and how it flows like black american music

Those are our people in those lands

Divide and rule tactics of the european. Prop up a smaller kingdom, and use them to destroy the larger ones

Benin grew bigger than its master and was arrogant, hence britain shut them down

It seems our ancestors are fighting back for us because if you look at things today

The benin people are slaves, both male and female

Yorubas are calculating

Y0ruba:
Art historians & archeologists all agreed that Owo arts are of Ife origins & preceded that of Bini. The proximity they share resulted in the influences they both had on each other.

I don’t know if Owo birthed Bini.

Lol...my chest...am probably going to get another banned for this but anyway i would still say it

Benin is way different from yoruba art its likely to be compared to the Egyptian art

Ife art was just bust from face to shoulder benin did full sculptured art on plagues showing the whole body which ife nevered did ...the benin art nevered had holes in it sculpture like ife did....benin made art of animals leopard snake birds just like egypt ...these art was for two purposes mainly for document and ornament...
But ife art was just for ....nothing

The attached picture shows the oyo king in his palace

@Davidnazee and @prolog2

I told you it was alaafin that the british representative asked about when he told oba of benin "I hear of a very powerful king in the hinterland, whose face cannot be seen"

Alaafin>>>>oba of benin

Yoruba will rise again

I learned from the british empire, they plan very well

They used roman created religion, islam, to infiltrate our military garrison in the north

This weakened our brothers in the south

We fought on all fronts

Fulanis, british, even our brothers ekiti ond ondo in the east fought against Oyo

I am very proud to be a yoruba son

Moorish:
The attached picture shows the oyo king in his palace

@Davidnazee and @prolog2

I told you it was alaafin that the british representative asked about when he told oba of benin "I hear of a very powerful king in the hinterland, whose face cannot be seen"

Alaafin>>>>oba of benin

stop quoting me for your rubbish, The Oba of Benin was too busy fighting against thé british to talk about your useless alafin who couldn't put up à fight.

Moorish:
I am only just studying the owo kingdom

Did owo birth benin??

Their arts are so similar, and the owo arts and crafts look like the original!!!

Olodumare blessed us oh!

Imagine if we unite!

Since you don’t know about Owo kingdom (a Benin vassal state and property) I will enlighten you on it. Read below about Owo’s relationship with Great Benin kingdom.

""Using a combination of oral traditions and written sources, this work reconstructs the history of a tropical African kingdom, the frontier Yoruba kingdom of Owo in southwestern Nigeria, from about the 12th century to the middle of the 20th century. One of a number of kingdoms springing up in this forest country in about the 11th and 12th centuries, Owo developed as a typical Yoruba kingdom, with a system of limited monarchy and careful balances of the interests of society. However, Owo was the closest Yoruba kingdom to another kingdom that was not Yoruba, that had a significantly different political system characterized by nearly complete monarchical absolutism.
Inevitably, Owo developed relationships with that kingdom, the strong, expansionist Benin kingdom of the Edo people - in trade, culture, etc. Owo seems to have grown slowly until it came under pressure of this much stronger neighbor. Benin’s ownership of coastal territory had positioned her to benefit from the coastal trade with Europeans beginning from the last years of the 15th century. Wealth from the trade and the acquisition of imported weapons of war (European guns), transformed Benin into a formidable adversary to her neighbors. Unable to match Benin’s military power, Owo strove for independent survival by entering into creative commercial and political arrangements with Benin. Over time, Owo-Benin relations attained a certain stability featuring much cultural interaction, friendly trade in each other’s domain, and traders from both kingdoms’ trading side by side far into the interior. Politically, Owo began to be impacted by the Benin system, thereby creating a long history of conflict and instability in the internal politics of the Owo kingdom. In spite of such, however, Owo continued to prosper economically. Owo also developed excellent diplomatic skills that preserved her independence and prevented frequent wars with Benin. Owo’s economic prosperity spurred cultural growth and revival, making Owo a great cultural center in Yorubaland. Although Owo’s political life never fully recovered from the disruptions imported by her contacts with Benin, Owo never ceased to be a prosperous independent kingdom. The same trends continued under the British and have continued in the context of the Federal Republic of Nigeria.

Ryder and Bradbury only mentioned Owo in passing in their works. Ryder says that Owo was part of the Benin Empire that extended to eastern Yorubaland in the 15th century and Bradbury says that Benin conquered Owo, one of the Yoruba states and that Owo was intermittently part of the Benin Empire before the 19th century.
For example, Bradbury has emphasized the Benin factor in the history of precolonial eastern Yorubaland. He explains this in terms of the expansionist program of Benin and its impact on the surrounding polities, including Owo. According to Bradbury: ‘It is impossible at the present time to determine the extent of the Benin empire at any particular period in the past; the frontiers were continually expanding and contracting as new conquests were made and as vassals on the borders rebelled and were conquered....
On the northeast, Akure, the Ekiti country, Owo and much of what is now Owo Division were, though intermittently, tributary to Benin; the re-conquest of this area was attempted, with some success during the early part of the 19th century. It appears from the Edo traditions that Edo influence in this area dates back to the late 16th century.’
the Benin armies extended their conquests beyond the Edo regions, subjugating many towns and villages of Ekiti, Ikare, Afenmai and the western Ibo, among them the important towns of Owo andAkure.’ 85 Akintoye complements Bradbury and Ryder by looking at the imperial activities of Benin in eastern Yorubaland: how Benin succeeded in establishing her rule or dominance in the area, how she treated the subject peoples and how she was overthrown by the coming of the British in 1897

Akintoye has dwelt more extensively on some aspects of the precolonial history of Owo, particularly her relationship with the Benin kingdom than any other scholar.
According to him, Benin had an overwhelming political, economic and cultural control over Owo until 1897. He says, without any qualifications, that
‘.. .Owo appears to have been very closely controlled from Benin.’ 89 Akintoye gives his reason for Benin’s total control of Owo by saying that this ‘... was probably due partly to Owo’s comparative nearness to Benin and her location along the main routes.’
He adds that in practical terms ‘...The Olowo (i.e. the traditional ruler of Owo) sent tributes to Benin annually through a resident official and the Owo people had to pay to the Oba of Benin obeisance customarily due to an oba. For instance, in most parts of the Yoruba country any hunter who killed a tiger or leopard had to give it up to his oba. In Owo, any hunter who killed either of these animals had to carry it to the Oba of Benin.’ Akintoye adds that ‘Owo was made to surrender its princes as hostages in the Benin court. Many Owo rulers therefore had Benin education and were responsible for introducing Benin culture to Owo. This is why Owo shows much stronger evidence of Benin cultural influence, especially in palace ritual and manners, than other towns in the area under study.’""

So @moorish, you see that Owo is more Edo than Yoruba.

Y0ruba:
You keep touting this lie without any references to any literature whatsoever. I should remind you that sources, primary & secondary, do not agree with your claim up there.

Follow me:

2. Next is Ekiti. Ekiti is not a single entity and it was at no time unified. Ekiti contains original 16 kings with 16 towns in addition to several others. Ekiti is very far walking distance to Bini. Some Ekiti fringe towns experienced periodic Bini invasions. However, these towns revolted after a shortwhile because Ekiti to Bini was too far for Bini army to get reinforcement. Colonialists, Foreign researchers & local Historians have done work on this. In certain Ekiti fringe towns, Bini quarters exist there, these Bini army, after Ekiti revolts relinquish their military occupation and settle with indigenes rather than moving back to Bini.


Conclusively, Bini’s emergence which coincided with Oyo’s collapse provided it with the right timing and points of interest to try its hands on expansionism with. Although Bini’s army had some incursion into the Eastern part of Yorubaland. It however failed in its military attempts but recorded a bit of success in cultural exchanges through diplomatic relations. Thus, Bini’s presence in Yorubaland has been due to its historical ties to Yoruba kings and the attendant diplomatic relations they share rather than military conquests which were not sustainable and as a result, ephemeral.

I just love educating you yorubas on your ignorance. I already talked about Owo, you can find that above. Now let’s talk Ekiti that you said Benin armies couldn’t touch. Read below our exploits in all of Ekiti towns and villages.

Every town or village under him (Ewi) except Ijan were prepared to fight…The Benin soldiers stormed Igbara-Odo and Ilawe and took them. At this time, Ado town had been vacated. Aroloye took the people to a place called Oke Oko Axis between Ifaki and Iworok..
The soldiers pitched their camps near Uyin (Iyin)…Ogbesi Okun, the then Oluyin …was conquered and killed. They proceeded to Igede, Awo and Esure and took them. The inhabitants of Igede then uder Okiribiti were driven in a north-easternly direction to a place called Oke Asha…Edo troops then marched to Iworoko…The soldiers entered Are…The same fate befell Afao. They were all taken to Ikere. The soldiers moved to Igbemo …entered Igbo-Omoba (now Ilu-Omoba)…The soldiers left Aisegba for Agbado and without delay took it and evacuated the people. Agbado was the last place under the Ewi. With the conquest, of Agbado, the soldiers seemed to have finished their job..
Ewi Idagunmodo (1696-1710), Ewi Okinbaloye Aritawekun (1710-1722), Ewi Amono Ola (1722-1762), Ewi Afunbiowo (1762-1781), Ewi Akulojuorun (1781-1808), Ewi Aroloye (1808-1836) who reigned at Ado but were attacked successively by Benin hordes…‘During the reign of Ewi Aroloye, Ado-Ewi’s kingdom witnessed massive dislocation across the terrain as town dwellers and villagers ran for safety in different directions. Many of the captives from Iworoko, Are, Afao, Ugboomoba (now Ilumoba) and Agbado were taken to Ukere by Benin invaders

…the rapid expansion of Ado brought it into conflict with Benin, another power with imperialistic designs in Ekiti. Responding to the invitation by Ado’s neighbouring states who had become unduly alarmed by the consolidation and excesses of the Ewi’s power, Benin army invaded and subjugated Ado in addition to overrunning most of the other Ekiti states some of whose ruling dynasties, as in Ikere, were replaced..


Now next we shall discuss your 3rd point.