monerozi5590:


He should go and discuss that with Perez and his agent if it is that serious like you said. Dude is 34 already and i don't think Perez will give him any pay rise if that is what he is asking for. My own is that the spot light should be on Bale and not on CR7 exit talks.

the spotlight should be on Madrid not on Bale , answer this question with sincerity, will they keep him on the bench? Now that I'm thinking about it, let's see what the headline will look like with the spot light on Bale without Ronaldo's comment, Bale wants to leave in search of play time, Bale hint at Madrid exit after scoring winner ,,sighs it sound terribly boring.. Bale pale in comparison with Cr7 super star status

about discussing with Perez I believe he would have initiated a talk which wasn't taken serious because of all the Neymar businrsd

monerozi5590:
Wait oh..Most of media are not saying anything about Bale goals and he won us the UCL but about CR7 exit talks.

WTF.. Did CR7 say those words to take the spot light away from Bale?

Seriously, i am not happy with CR7. The timing of his outburst is wrong.

Haba, allow Bale to enjoy his moment biko..

Marca front page is full of CR7 exit talks instead of to be talking about Bale's performance, the goal and how he won us the cup.

it was the perfect time for him to air it out. How can you promise him a pay rise but fail to keep to it. Our board is fond of making our aging players angry.

CR7 deserves what ever he wants. He merits it.

hopefulLandlord:

I'm against their giving him a pay raise as he just signed a 5 year deal last season or so. do we need him? yes but its not like he's paying for free right now and he's the highest earning footballer in the world in terms of overall income. he's been playing less and less matches compared to before (played only 66% of league games) while earning more and more in wages

He should spend the remaining 3 years and leave, Madrid is bigger than a single player

the bolded, no respect at all.

Ovie56:

the spotlight should be on Madrid not on Bale , answer this question with sincerity, will they keep him on the bench? Now that I'm thinking about it, let's see what the headline will look like with the spot light on Bale without Ronaldo's comment, Bale wants to leave in search of play time, Bale hint at Madrid exit after scoring winner ,,sighs it sound terribly boring.. Bale pale in comparison with Cr7 super star status

about discussing with Perez I believe he would have initiated a talk which wasn't taken serious because of all the Neymar businrsd

That would have been better. I would have loved those headlines.

It mustn't always be about CR7.

Miremoses1:
the bolded, no respect at all.

Yes it sounds harsh but I wouldn't want to go through what we went through pre Calderon in which we had a team filled with big names who are old and overpaid compared to the effort they put in, we went 3 years without a single trophy while paying massive wages to has beens and firing coaches like we're changing clothed. Ronaldo can't keep this up till 36 and even you know he's been declining over the years. This is a Madrid thread and one should be able to say what one means bluntly. its obvious Ronaldo is trying to use the fans and press as leverage to force Madrid's hand like Messi did to Barca

The club comes first. soja go soja come na barrack go remain

Miremoses1:
the bolded, no respect at all.

I stopped complaining about players bithching the day I read the headline "Barca fans boo messi at camp nou, fans are quick to turn on their own player, this guys don't play on reputation they have to prove themselves every fvvking time few bad matches you'd see the fans calling for him to be benched ,the ludicrous amount they requested for is just for compensation they don't play because fan loves them ,they probably will think if this set of people don't love me let me at least get the money . Cr7 is used to constant boos from bernerbeu fans, why should he play for love, I still remember last year first versus atleti after scoring second goal he has to be telling his supposed fan not to whistle but clap

monerozi5590:



That would have been better. I would have loved those headlines.

It mustn't always be about CR7.

Who wants to talk about Bale? definitely not me. I liked that he scored congrats to him ..but let's be fair here he did the same thing Ronaldo did yesterday, they both hinted at their exit , difference is one is a mega super star and the other is a star

You want to mess with CR7 and build your team around the likes of Bale?
Same injury prone Bale with tendency to go missing in matches?
Had Bale ever had a 40 goals plus season throughout his football playing career? Just two goals in a final and he's now the best thing since sliced bread?

Tell me where else you are going to get a 40 goals plus per season player the whole Europe if you piss off CR7, you say he is declining, yet peeps had been saying same trash since 2015, even when dude keeps banging in goals.

Every season, he must have to re prove himself to a bunch of ungrateful people.

A labourer is worth his wages, give him a pay rise as a motivational stimulus and reap them all back in goals.

Hala Madrid.

hopefulLandlord:

Why does it have to be "Pay him or tell him he's not needed anymore?" what happened to his present contract? its not like he's playing for free presently and makes a lot more from image rights than Messi and Neymar

Also you're comparing his wages to that of Messi who held out till his contract was 6 months left to sign? a player that the club members said he's already signed only for him to come out and say no? who they had to pay his father to convince him to sign? a player that has turned bigger than Barcelona as a club and a director was fired simply for saying they won't keep renewing his contract. a player that the club tweeted in support of his tax evasion #weareallmessi? are you comparing Madrid to that immature scum of a club that bends over backwards just because of a single player? Messi alone earns 40% of the entire revenue of Barca in wages and asides that they give him tax free money on top by donating money to the Messi foundation which goes straight to messi's pocket indirectly

we are not Barca, we are bigger and we can't do like them just because some player was able to turn them to his subordinate.

As for Neymar, he was a statement buy who wouldn't have gone to PSG for any other reason than a ludicrous wage accompanied by several other side benefits. PSG also bent over backwards for him although he plays for a state sponsored club with virtually bottomless money who can afford to pay him 30M per week if they want to


I'm against giving him anymore raise, he should honour his contract and leave when exhausted or look for a club that can pay him on par with Messi and ready to fork over hundreds of millions of euros in transfer fee. he's 33, already playing less and less games each season and our revenues aren't increasing, it even decreased last season by 25 whole %

This might sound harsh to say about a club legend but football is still a business and we have to manage our wagebill too or we'd turn to Barca

What is this diatribe?

He makes more from image rights than Messi and Neymar? And so? Does your company pay you your salary based on how much you make from alternate sources (side gigs)?

Then you talk about Neymar's case and did not say anything about Mbappe's case. Club revenue is decreasing and we're bidding 360m euros for two players who individually contribute less to their club than CR7 does to Madrid. How ungrateful can you get?

Barca is a scum club, yet they treated Iniesta like the hero he is, while Madrid trashed Casillas.

Tufiakwa. Football is a business, so a performing superstar with only a few years left shouldn't ask for a deserved raise. I suppose it's a business for the club only, and not for the player.

Anyway, Ronaldo has told Flo to work out the modalities that he is leaving. It was always going to come to this. If the club get mind mk them bench am for all the games out of spite until 2021. Since it is his contract. You guys were screaming that he should be sold at the beginning of the season. If he is so expensive and unnecessary, sell him. That's all he asked. It's not like he's going to play forever. Just cash out now mk everybody mind rest!

One minute, you want the club to sell him and cut our losses. The next you want the club to keep him against his wish and ignore his wage demands.

Can't believe what I'm reading. He is part of the 3 peat team. He scores 50%+ of our UCL goals every season. He is the G.O.A.T. Then you say he doesn't deserve a raise after he has been promised going back to 2016. If your employer promises you a raise for 2 years and fails to give you that raise while you keep proving your mettle and surpassing expectations, would you be all fine and dandy?

Football is a business! Like CR7 is not a businessman too.

-Lord

hopefulLandlord:

Yes it sounds harsh but I wouldn't want to go through what we went through pre Calderon in which we had a team filled with big names who are old and overpaid compared to the effort they put in, we went 3 years without a single trophy while paying massive wages to has beens and firing coaches like we're changing clothed. Ronaldo can't keep this up till 36 and even you know he's been declining over the years. This is a Madrid thread and one should be able to say what one means bluntly. its obvious Ronaldo is trying to use the fans and press as leverage to force Madrid's hand like Messi did to Barca

The club comes first. soja go soja come na barrack go remain

Whose fault was that? Was it not this same Flo who decided to sell Makelele because he asked for a deserved raise and said he was useless. Instead he was going to buy newer fancy players the club didn't need and paying them several multiples of what Makelele was requesting.

That was how Makelele left, who was the anchor of the team (like Busquest is to Barca), and Flo lost the Presidency and destabilized the club. Now he is back and has started that st*pid nonsense. Playing games with the club's highest goalscorer while he wants to buy two less influential players for more.

And you are supporting him. Yes, the club comes first. So sell him if you can't meet his demands. Don't play games like a crook. A club of Madrid's stature shouldn't be acting like AIT.

Makelele got him disgraced from the club the first time around. This CR7 case will eventually lead to his banishment. Florentino is not the club. The club is bigger than Perez.

-Lord

LordAdamX:


What is this diatribe?

He makes more from image rights than Messi and Neymar? And so? Does your company pay you your salary based on how much you make from alternate sources (side gigs)?

Then you talk about Neymar's case and did not say anything about Mbappe's case. Club revenue is decreasing and we're bidding 360m euros for two players who individually contribute less to their club than CR7 does to Madrid. How ungrateful can you get?

Barca is a scum club, yet they treated Iniesta like the hero he is, while Madrid trashed Casillas.

Tufiakwa. Football is a business, so a performing superstar with only a few years left shouldn't ask for a deserved raise. I suppose it's a business for the club only, and not for the player.

Anyway, Ronaldo has told Flo to work out the modalities that he is leaving. It was always going to come to this. If the club get mind mk them bench am for all the games out of spite until 2021. Since it is his contract. You guys were screaming that he should be sold at the beginning of the season. If he is so expensive and unnecessary, sell him. That's all he asked. It's not like he's going to play forever. Just cash out now mk everybody mind rest!

One minute, you want the club to sell him and cut our losses. The next you want the club to keep him against his wish and ignore his wage demands.

Can't believe what I'm reading. He is part of the 3 peat team. He scores 50%+ of our UCL goals every season. He is the G.O.A.T. Then you say he doesn't deserve a raise after he has been promised going back to 2016. If your employer promises you a raise for 2 years and fails to give you that raise while you keep proving your mettle and surpassing expectations, would you be all fine and dandy?

Football is a business! Like CR7 is not a businessman too.

-Lord

I don't know where you got all these but there's so much wrong info that I'm starting to doubt who you love more between the club and Ronaldo cuz you're making up imaginary info to buttress Ronaldo

Ronaldo signed a contract in November 2016 so I'm lost about where you got the info that they promised him a raise in 2016 when he signed a contract late that very year

OMG! you have no idea how image rights work? Club and player agree on image rights sharing, Messi and Barca share it about 50-50 while Ronaldo takes 100% of his image rights and Madrid 0% when he signed in 2016. Its funny how you don't even have the required knowledge of what you're talking about but are only responding based on emotions. Bayern are not earning anything from James Image rights as its being shared between James and Madrid. So what Ronaldo lacks in wages he more than makes up for in image rights income

Yes, Barca allowed themselves to be played by Messi and he showed how he's bigger than the entire club, earns 40% of the entire wagebill and forced them to make borderline illegal payments to him via his foundation which has an office in Buenos Aries comprising of one staff, a security who opens and locks the premises. He forced them to tweet in support of his tax evasion and made them make press conferences and campaign as support for him. This is what you want your club to become just because they gave a better farewell to Iniesta than we did for Casillas? why not just crossover there and take Ronaldo with you? some of us have been supporting the club long before we knew Ronaldo existed and saw how we kept big names who were past it and paying them ridiculous wages just because they played amazing for a while

Who exactly were screaming he should be sold? can you quote where I said Ronaldo should be sold at the Beginning of the season? I'm me, I think for myself and don't follow the herd

Lol, I said he should honour his contract and leave at the end of it or find a club to sign him, how does that mean I changed my opinion from one minute to the next? He's playing less and less games, needs more time between games to recover and gets subbed more while earning a lot more than he did before. Go to Barca and take him with you. we the fans would survive without him and get capable replacement or change playstyle to fit


Yes I'm sounding disrespectful and its intended cuz I'm disappointed at his words after winning the biggest trophies. what he did leaves a bitter taste in the mouth and we can't bend to player's wishes just because they took it to the press. what happens next? Ramos wants to earn as much as Messi then takes it to the press? Marcelo does the same? Modrić does the same? you're bound to face a slippery slope if you give in to demands of players at the detriment of the club's finance just because he was important in a winning team

LordAdamX:


Whose fault was that? Was it not this same Flo who decided to sell Makelele because he asked for a deserved raise and said he was useless. Instead he was going to buy newer fancy players the club didn't need and paying them several multiples of what Makelele was requesting.

-Lord

exactly! his mistake is that he was focusing on names and what the player did NOT what's happening. Ronaldo is obviously in a decline, its obvious to anyone who's watched him over the years that he can't keep the form up for the next three years so let him keep playing, honour his contract and leave. I wouldn't want another situation where we have Zidane, Beckham, Delima, Figo all earning massive wages and not able to play together and beat even relegation teams while our best player in terms of form was a 21 year old Robinho

hopefulLandlord:

I'm against their giving him a pay raise as he just signed a 5 year deal last season or so. do we need him? yes but its not like he's paying for free right now and he's the highest earning footballer in the world in terms of overall income. he's been playing less and less matches compared to before (played only 66% of league games) while earning more and more in wages

He should spend the remaining 3 years and leave, Madrid is bigger than a single player

Oga, pay him what he deserves and stop talking about overall income, like it's the club paying him that extra income.

He plays less because he is being conserved for the UCL. And while playing less, he outscores younger players who play more matches.

Total goals this season

Messi: 45
Ronaldo:44
Salah:44

Zidane begged him to play less, so it's not like he is physically unable to play substantially. It's a tactical decision. Moreover, the club is looking to reduce our reliance on him as we transition to a post-CR7 future, so it makes sense for us to play him in only the most important games.

You say he should play for 3 years and leave. So you are willing to risk featuring an unhappy superstar of CR7's stature in the RM dressing room. You think an unhappy CR7 will score 10+ goals per season in the UCL. You want an unmotivated CR7 to lead the team. All this penny wise, pound fool suggestions.

You think the club will save money with an unmotivated Ronaldo. Better sell him. The crisis at the beginning of the season was partly due to this. Now you want it to continue for 3 years. That trophyless haul you think you're avoiding is what you are guaranteeing; and you'd pay 21m to him annually to keep failing.

After the Leganes game, when we were playing like crap, and everyone had already written the season off, when Zidane was taking blames, and tempers were flaring; this was Ronaldo's tweet:

“Cheer up team. Cheer up madridistas. We still have many battles to win.”

Now we have won the UCL in a 3 peat; and all of a sudden he should play for 3 years and leave. The arrogance! Myopia par excellence!

-Lord

hopefulLandlord:


I don't know where you got all these but there's so much wrong info that I'm starting to doubt who you love more between the club and Ronaldo cuz you're making up imaginary info to buttress Ronaldo

Ronaldo signed a contract in November 2016 so I'm lost about where you got the info that they promised him a raise in 2016 when he signed a contract late that very year

OMG! you have no idea how image rights work? Club and player agree on image rights sharing, Messi and Barca share it about 50-50 while Ronaldo takes 100% of his image rights and Madrid 0% when he signed in 2016. Its funny how you don't even have the required knowledge of what you're talking about but are only responding based on emotions. Bayern are not earning anything from James Image rights as its being shared between James and Madrid. So what Ronaldo lacks in wages he more than makes up for in image rights income

Yes, Barca allowed themselves to be played by Messi and he showed how he's bigger than the entire club, earns 40% of the entire wagebill and forced them to make borderline illegal payments to him via his foundation which has an office in Buenos Aries comprising of one staff, a security who opens and locks the premises. He forced them to tweet in support of his tax evasion and made them make press conferences and campaign as support for him. This is what you want your club to become just because they gave a better farewell to Iniesta than we did for Casillas? why not just crossover there and take Ronaldo with you? some of us have been supporting the club long before we knew Ronaldo existed and saw how we kept big names who were past it and paying them ridiculous wages just because they played amazing for a while

Who exactly were screaming he should be sold? can you quote where I said Ronaldo should be sold at the Beginning of the season? I'm me, I think for myself and don't follow the herd

Lol, I said he should honour his contract and leave at the end of it or find a club to sign him, how does that mean I changed my opinion from one minute to the next? He's playing less and less games, needs more time between games to recover and gets subbed more while earning a lot more than he did before. Go to Barca and take him with you. we the fans would survive without him and get capable replacement or change playstyle to fit


Yes I'm sounding disrespectful and its intended cuz I'm disappointed at his words after winning the biggest trophies. what he did leaves a bitter taste in the mouth and we can't bend to player's wishes just because they took it to the press. what happens next? Ramos wants to earn as much as Messi then takes it to the press? Marcelo does the same? Modrić does the same? you're bound to face a slippery slope if you give in to demands of players at the detriment of the club's finance just because he was important in a winning team

Stop making untrue statements.

Ronaldo takes 100% of all image rights that does not relate to Real Madrid. And Messi's new contract gives him exclusive image rights. Not the 50:50 you are mentioning.

Better update your knowledge before discussing such issues.

-Lord

LordAdamX:


Oga, pay him what he deserves and stop talking about overall income, like it's the club paying him that extra income.

He plays less because he is being conserved for the UCL. And while playing less, he outscores younger players who play more matches.

Total games this season

Messi: 45
Ronaldo:44
Salah:44

Zidane begged him to play less, so it's not like he is physically unable to play substantially. It's a tactical decision. Moreover, the club is looking to reduce our reliance on him as we transition to a post-CR7 future, so it makes sense for us to play him in only the most important games.

You say he should play for 3 years and leave. So you are willing to risk featuring an unhappy superstar of CR7's stature in the RM dressing room. You think an unhappy CR7 will score 10+ goals per season in the UCL. You want an unmotivated CR7 to lead the team. All this penny wise, pound fool suggestions.

You think the club will save money with an unmotivated Ronaldo. Better sell him. The crisis at the beginning of the season was partly due to this. Now you want it to continue for 3 years. That trophyless haul you think you're avoiding is what you are guaranteeing; and you'd pay 21m to him annually to keep failing.

After the Leganes game, when we were playing like crap, and everyone had already written the season off, when Zidane was taking blames, and tempers were flaring; this was Ronaldo's tweet:

“Cheer up team. Cheer up madridistas. We still have many battles to win.”

Now we have won the UCL in a 3 peat; and all of a sudden he should play for 3 years and leave. The arrogance! Myopia par excellence!

-Lord

He's getting paid what he deserves!

He outscored them yet his poor form at the first half of the laliga season meant we were out of Laliga by January and he then went on a tear and banged in goals from January till now as we fought for top four finish!

Ronaldo is physically unable to play substantially anymore, its obvious to anyone who's watched him play, he's lost pace and now relies on positioning and reaction more. Ronaldo of 2 years ago would've scored that chance he had that Robertson caught up with him. He relies on one touch finish more than ever and gets beaten whenever he needs to take 2 or more touches before shooting when through on goal

I stand by my words, he's earning a lot already, we can't keep increasing his wages just because Messi has made Barcelona his Beetch! so either he puts in a transfer request or plays well and show his apparent decline is an anomaly

Kaka left for free to Milan even though he had 2 years left, We were paying a part of Raul and Casillas wages when they were at Schalke and Porto respectively. I would like to see how next season goes before I would support his being given another contract (not like my support is necessary)

Again my reaction is from him going to the press at such a bizarre time

hopefulLandlord:


exactly! his mistake is that he was focusing on names and what the player did NOT what's happening. Ronaldo is obviously in a decline, its obvious to anyone who's watched him over the years that he can't keep the form up for the next three years so let him keep playing, honour his contract and leave. I wouldn't want another situation where we have Zidane, Beckham, Delima, Figo all earning massive wages and not able to play together and beat even relegation teams while our best player in terms of form was a 21 year old Robinho

You are not making any sense.

Makelele asked for a raise, Flo told him to go f*ck himself. Then he went on to buy fancy names and paid them more.

Today, CR7 is asking for a raise, Flo is playing games with him. And he had already readied 320m euros to buy new fancy names who he'd likely pay more.

Do you not see the similarity? Or do I have to spell it out in long paragraphs.

-Lord

LordAdamX:


Stop making untrue statements.

Ronaldo takes 100% of all image rights that does not relate to Real Madrid. And Messi's new contract gives him exclusive image rights. Not the 50:50 you are mentioning.

Better update your knowledge before discussing such issues.

-Lord

I haven't actually checked if he's granted exclusive image rights for his new contract but while Ronaldo spent 2 years earning 100% Messi was earning around 50-50, maybe he's now earning 100%. remove that info and others are correct, Ronaldo signed a contract in late 2016 so if there's a promised contract he's gotten it already

then again we can't force ourselves to pay more for Ronaldo just because Barca has made Messi his boss and Neymar plays for a country sponsored club

we are Madrid and going to the press at such a time is below the belt and shouldn't be encouraged at all, so does what Bale said about playing time. By all means discuss this behind the scenes and sort yourselves out or at least chose a better time to do that

hopefulLandlord:


He's getting paid what he deserves!

He outscored them yet his poor form at the first half of the laliga season meant we were out of Laliga by January and he then went on a tear and banged in goals from January till now as we fought for top four finish!

Ronaldo is physically unable to play substantially anymore, its obvious to anyone who's watched him play, he's lost pace and now relies on positioning and reaction more. Ronaldo of 2 years ago would've scored that chance he had that Robertson caught up with him. He relies on one touch finish more than ever and gets beaten whenever he needs to take 2 or more touches before shooting when through on goal

I stand by my words, he's earning a lot already, we can't keep increasing his wages just because Messi has made Barcelona his Beetch! so either he puts in a transfer request or plays well and show his apparent decline is an anomaly

Kaka left for free to Milan even though he had 2 years left, We were paying a part of Raul and Casillas wages when they were at Schalke and Porto respectively. I would like to see how next season goes before I would support his being given another contract (not like my support is necessary)

Again my reaction is from him going to the press at such a bizarre time

Paying him half the amount Messi and significantly less than Neymar gets while he offers as much if not more impact on our title hopes is not "what he deserves." If you're an entry-level accountant at KPMG and your mates at Deloitte and PwC are earning between 50-90%+ what you're earning despite you recording same or better performance metrics; you wouldn't call it deserving.

CR7 deserves higher than what he is earning, and the club agrees. Your opinion here is irrelevant. The issue is why is the club not giving him the deal they say they'd give him? It's not like the club say they wouldn't give him a raise and he was trying to force it. They said they'd give him a raise and are trying to goad him; and it will have an adverse effect on the team's preparations like it did early this year.

-Lord

LordAdamX:


You are not making any sense.

Makelele asked for a raise, Flo told him to go f*ck himself. Then he went on to buy fancy names and paid them more.

Today, CR7 is asking for a raise, Flo is playing games with him. And he had already readied 320m euros to buy new fancy names who he'd likely pay more.

Do you not see the similarity? Or do I have to spell it out in long paragraphs.

-Lord

I find it funny how people seem to use makelele as example always as a sign of Perez getting it wring but people like you can't see when we let go of vital players due to wage demands too. we let go of ozil when his father was requesting for a higher wages and we've gone through trophy galore since then. we let go of Di Maris after he had his best season in a Madrid shirt due to his using his requesting to be paid as much as Ronaldo and trophies also followed. We let go of Pepe when he was requesting for 2 year contract and an increase in wages but we let him go too and trophies followed but let's stay fixated on Makelele which was one of the few times we were wrong and not consider those times we sold players who the fans thought we would be worse off without but only got better instead

Yes for every Makelele there are DI Marias, Pepes, Robinhos Ozil and a lot of other players we let go of but got better. Yes Ronaldo would be difficult to replace and it might not be pretty but we can't bend over for him just because some midget made Barcelona his bitch

LordAdamX:


Paying him half the amount Messi and significantly less than Neymar gets while he offers as much if not more impact on our title hopes is not "what he deserves." If you're an entry-level accountant at KPMG and your mates at Deloitte and PwC are earning between 50-90%+ what you're earning despite you recording same or better performance metrics; you wouldn't call it deserving.

CR7 deserves higher than what he is earning, and the club agrees. Your opinion here is irrelevant. The issue is why is the club not giving him the deal they say they'd give him? It's not like the club say they wouldn't give him a raise and he was trying to force it. They said they'd give him a raise and are trying to goad him; and it will have an adverse effect on the team's preparations like it did early this year.

-Lord

If he thinks Barcelona would pay him what Messi is earning then he should move to Barcelona
If he thinks Qatar Saint Germain would pay him what Neymar is earning then he should move there too

Can you even give me source of where the club promised to increase his wages? You've been repeating this since, can you give me reputable links of official saying they "promised" him a new contract?

hopefulLandlord:


I haven't actually checked if he's granted exclusive image rights for his new contract but while Ronaldo spent 2 years earning 100% Messi was earning around 50-50, maybe he's now earning 100%. remove that info and others are correct, Ronaldo signed a contract in late 2016 so if there's a promised contract he's gotten it already

then again we can't force ourselves to pay more for Ronaldo just because Barca has made Messi his boss and Neymar plays for a country sponsored club

we are Madrid and going to the press at such a time is below the belt and shouldn't be encouraged at all, so does what Bale said about playing time. By all means discuss this behind the scenes and sort yourselves out or at least chose a better time to do that

Now you're backtracking. What does number of years have to do with anything? Messi earns twice as much as Ronaldo in wages + exclusive image rights right now. Ronaldo earns 48% of what Messi earns in wages and exclusive image rights on only non-RM materials.

You're calling that deserved. I'm calling that a sh*t arrangement.

And no, Ronaldo has not gotten the promised contract. Geez, update your knowledge. He signed a new contract late 2016 and got commitments to renegotiation. That was after our first UCL win of this 3peat. Now, we've had two UCL wins and he's been trying to get those commitments to translate to a new offer. Madrid has agreed to give him a new offer, yet Flo is dragging his feet, while he has the time to send a rejected 140m euros offer to Mbappe.

Professional players have limited clocks. Unlike the rest of us, their retirement age is not 60. He is already slowing and knows the rigors of European football may mean he has to leave by the time his contract ends. I don't see why it's so hard to give a deserved higher wage to a man who is integral to our title hopes; by integral--the man whose goals will take us to another assured UCL SF and win us games in the league.

All of a sudden we're treating this like it's something others are used to. PSG gave Neymar the best contract in European football and made Mbappe the third highest paid player in Ligue 1 to advance through the Round of 16. Prior to the last 8 UCL SF run, we used to crash out to Lyon.

I understand how gutted it must feel to hear his remarks when we should be celebrating. I doubt anyone was happy to hear it. We're simply saying that it shouldn't have come to this and the Board should have nipped this in the bud. That's accurate. Ronaldo has been doing behind the scenes; he even made a remark after the Tott game last year. Then the board lets it morph to a point where he had to make a comment after the UCL win. And then want to make CR7 the fall guy. It's abysmal.

-Lord

hopefulLandlord:


If he thinks Barcelona would pay him what Messi is earning then he should move to Barcelona
If he thinks Qatar Saint Germain would pay him what Neymar is earning then he should move there too

Can you even give me source of where the club promised to increase his wages? You've been repeating this since, can you give me reputable links of official saying they "promised" him a new contract?

He is not playing for Barcelona or PSG. He is playing for Madrid and has helped us win a 3 peat. While the other clubs you're talking about are paying more to leave at the QF and Ro16 stages respectively. Have some respect.

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/12087/11344039/cristiano-ronaldos-real-madrid-contract-to-be-improved-says-guillem-balague

-Lord

hopefulLandlord:


I find it funny how people seem to use makelele as example always as a sign of Perez getting it wring but people like you can't see when we let go of vital players due to wage demands too. we let go of ozil when his father was requesting for a higher wages and we've gone through trophy galore since then. we let go of Di Maris after he had his best season in a Madrid shirt due to his using his requesting to be paid as much as Ronaldo and trophies also followed. We let go of Pepe when he was requesting for 2 year contract and an increase in wages but we let him go too and trophies followed but let's stay fixated on Makelele which was one of the few times we were wrong and not consider those times we sold players who the fans thought we would be worse off without but only got better instead

Yes for every Makelele there are DI Marias, Pepes, Robinhos Ozil and a lot of other players we let go of but got better. Yes Ronaldo would be difficult to replace and it might not be pretty but we can't bend over for him just because some midget made Barcelona his bitch

Trophies galore, and we've never had a treble. And we had our first double last year since the late 50's.

Makelele was doing the job of Casemiro in the OG Galactico era. Flo said he was not important in the team and didn't get a decent replacement. That eventually led to his first disgrace. Every Madridista remembers it.

The club missed Ozil and Di Maria after they left. Thankfully, the GOAT was around so the adverse effect was contained. Pepe left last year and we are 17 points behind Barcelona this year. I don't find it surprising one bit that you'd compare the loss of CR7 to Ozil, Di Maria, and Pepe. Says a lot about how much you value his input.

-Lord

LordAdamX:


He is not playing for Barcelona or PSG. He is playing for Madrid and has helped us win a 3 peat. While the other clubs you're talking about are paying more to leave at the QF and Ro16 stages respectively. Have some respect.

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/12087/11344039/cristiano-ronaldos-real-madrid-contract-to-be-improved-says-guillem-balague

-Lord

What exactly this link supposed to do exactly? how is this a link of what I requested? so a journalist is our source and all we need to prove Perez promised him a contract? is this where you get your info from?

You've been talking since like Perez came out to say he's giving him a contract but now bring up a journalist who from his use of words is not even sure such a promise existed? Not one quote, not one sentence from any of the higher ups

Anyway I'm done with the CR7 wage discussion. Moi will just observe. E no dey hard to trend #PerezOut when things start falling apart.

I'm positive they'd sort themselves out tho'. I just hope they do so timely, so it'd not affect next season. We have a lot to worry about and losing CR7 shouldn't even be on the list.

That said, let's discuss sth else jare.

-Lord

LordAdamX:
Anyway I'm done with the CR7 wage discussion. Moi will just observe. E no dey hard to trend #PerezOut when things start falling apart.

I'm positive they'd sort themselves out tho'. I just hope they do so timely, so it'd not affect next season. We have a lot to worry about and losing CR7 shouldn't even be on the list.

That said, let's discuss sth else jare.

-Lord

No! don't quit so easily, admit you have no reputable source of him being promised a new contract

Guillem Balague is simply writing what he thinks would happen, he gave no quotes nor interviews to buttress his article. is this were y'all were getting the idea that he was promised a contract? is Balague Madrid's official mouthpiece?

can't believe a speculated article is all the origin of all these

hopefulLandlord:


What exactly this link supposed to do exactly? how is this a link of what I requested? so a journalist is our source and all we need to prove Perez promised him a contract? is this where you get your info from?

You've been talking since like Perez came out to say he's giving him a contract but now bring up a journalist who from his use of words is not even sure such a promise existed? Not one quote, not one sentence from any of the higher ups

Dude, it was corroborated by several sources, including Marca.

It's Guillem Balague and Skysports, not Don Balon. How can you be looking for where Perez said he'd give him a contract. Did Perez say so before he gave him his 2016 contract? Can't even understand your thought process.

Journalist and reputable papers report behind the scenes happenings. We learned that Arsenal was going to sign Emery way before Arsenal did so. We knew RM sent an offer to Mbappe's camp late last year, it was only this month that an executive corroborated the claim. Stop typing like you started following football today. You don pass that level.

What next, you're going to ask me where Perez said he is trying to sign Neymar?

-Lord

hopefulLandlord:
No! don't quit so easily, admit you have no reputable source of him being promised a new contract

Guillem Balague is simply writing what he thinks would happen, he gave no quotes nor interviews to buttress his article. is this were y'all were getting the idea that he was promised a contract? is Balague Madrid's official mouthpiece?

can't believe a speculated article is all the origin of all these

Seriously!!!

You want this to drag on for the entirety of this week, because I can make that happen.

Guillem Balague is not writing what he thinks would happen. He has dependable sources in the capital that gave him the info. Perez never gives quotes or interviews for contracts before they're signed. Doesn't mean he hasn't signed any contract since he became President.

How do you bloody reason? That's how you're equating CR7 loss to Di Maria leaving.

-Lord

hopefulLandlord:


He signed a contract in 16/17 if I recall correctly. if they promised him a raise then they can decide to change their mind based on things that happened afterwards. Like I said he's playing less and less games while earning a lot more than he did when he was playing a lot more

That of Neymar have all been speculations, no official has said anything about them negotiating for Neymar and the news you hear about are borne out of speculations and press asking questions as though the speculations were true

We refused to pay Mbappe 180K a week because it meant only Ramos Bale and Ronaldo would be earning more so we know what we're doing and I trust this board's decisions

However I insist we are not barca that bent over backwards for Messi

You are calling the Neymar talk speculations, but say we refused to pay Mbappe 180k/week. Is that not a speculation?

We sent Mbappe a 140m euros offer, Monaco accepted it, but he rejected it. We did not refuse anything. Mbappe rejected Madrid (for development reasons), not the other way around.

Just be typing stuff that doesn't make sense.

-Lord

hopefulLandlord:
No! don't quit so easily, admit you have no reputable source of him being promised a new contract

Guillem Balague is simply writing what he thinks would happen, he gave no quotes nor interviews to buttress his article. is this were y'all were getting the idea that he was promised a contract? is Balague Madrid's official mouthpiece?

can't believe a speculated article is all the origin of all these

You disappoint me wallahi. I wish you would just stop typing smh

LordAdamX:


Dude, it was corroborated by several sources, including Marca.

It's Guillem Balague and Skysports, not Don Balon. How can you be looking for where Perez said he'd give him a contract. Did Perez say so before he gave him his 2016 contract? Can't even understand your thought process.

Journalist and reputable papers report behind the scenes happenings. We learned that Arsenal was going to sign Emery way before Arsenal did so. We knew RM sent an offer to Mbappe's camp late last year, it was only this month that an executive corroborated the claim. Stop typing like you started following football today. You don pass that level.

What next, you're going to ask me where Perez said he is trying to sign Neymar?

-Lord

Oh sheet!

1. that something appeared on pages of newspapers doesn't make it true. a lot of these speculations are sourced from one paper and quoted and mined by another so corroboration doesn't say much. so many players Madrid are linked to aren't even being considered by us

Don Balon is a massive joke of a paper that it is virtually banned on reddit, maybe visit other places before concluding what the papers are saying is a fact? https://www.reddit.com/r/LiverpoolFC/comments/88off2/don_balon_coutinho_recommends_barca_to_go_for/

https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/7pqkqo/marco_asensio_receives_a_phone_call_from_mourinho/

https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/8hf148/express_salah_has_told_coutinho_that_he_thinks/

https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/820d2j/marco_asensio_knows_man_utd_want_raphael_varane/

2. I can't believe you're using Emery to buttress a point, yes papers do get it right SOMETIMES but most times get it wrong. they make up scenarios to sell papers and get clicks then other papers pick it from there and sell the same stories. its easy to look back with hindsight and say "Look they got emery right" without looking at the massive failures in other stories. you're counting the hits and ignoring the misses then making a law from the hits.

Mind you, I'm not saying he didn't get promised or he did bit rather Newspapers aren't a good source of things like this. Things like contract talks are shrouded with high secrecy so I'd take whatever the papers say with a grain of salt rather than swallow it as fact unless someone is quoting his agent or Ronaldo himself then its safe to say Ronaldo was promised on the pages of newspapers and would be paid on its pages too

Igboid:
You want to mess with CR7 and build your team around the likes of Bale?
Same injury prone Bale with tendency to go missing in matches?
Had Bale ever had a 40 goals plus season throughout his football playing career? Just two goals in a final and he's now the best thing since sliced bread?

Tell me where else you are going to get a 40 goals plus per season player the whole Europe if you piss off CR7, you say he is declining, yet peeps had been saying same trash since 2015, even when dude keeps banging in goals.

Every season, he must have to re prove himself to a bunch of ungrateful people.

A labourer is worth his wages, give him a pay rise as a motivational stimulus and reap them all back in goals.

Hala Madrid.

You they mind them.

My issue is not even about any other player sef. CR7 is going to leave, and IMO, the club has been trying to get us to adjust slowly to a post-CR7 future by having him play less. The issue is that some fans actually believe he doesn't deserve a raise despite him scoring most of our goals in each of the 3 peat seasons.

And are acting like he is replaceable. Like making him unmotivated is somehow going to improve our chances of winning titles. Some fans sha. The funny thing is when it eventually backfires, na them go still follow pursue Perez.

-Lord