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Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by davidnazee: 7:51pm On May 28, 2018

Moorish:
British Conquest of the Sokoto Caliphate 1903

Benin Expedition of 1897

You can never find anything Online or in Books related to "Oyo British War" or "British Conquest of Oyo"

You can also never find anything online or in Books related to "Karnem Borno British War" or "Conquest of Karnem Borno"

Those are the only two peoples who were never conquered. That is why we the Yorubas were accorded massive respect by the British reason why the capital was in our territory, and they collaborated with us to build the university of Ibadan

They saw us as equals

The Karnem Borno and the Yorubas and Sokotos are of a common stock. We all owned large cavalries because we travelled around and conquered the east.

We conquered the iberian peninsula (Spain, Southern Italy and Portugal) under our commander Gibr-al-Tariq. We were known as the moors and we ruled Iberia for 700 years

That is were I get my name, Moorish

Now let me rock your boat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGgGVA58dAQ

An Edo man, who knew his forefather was the brother to mine

He said Yorubas invented langauge, Math and the concept of the University, first pyramid in sudan was built by the yorubas

Watch it man

@moorish; how can you find “British conquest of Oyo” when Oyo was long dead and decayed when the British arrived? Or you expect the British to conquer Oyo’s ghosts?
Please you Yorubas should argue with sense.

Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by davidnazee: 7:54pm On May 28, 2018

Moorish:
British Conquest of the Sokoto Caliphate 1903

Benin Expedition of 1897

You can never find anything Online or in Books related to "Oyo British War" or "British Conquest of Oyo"

You can also never find anything online or in Books related to "Karnem Borno British War" or "Conquest of Karnem Borno"

Those are the only two peoples who were never conquered. That is why we the Yorubas were accorded massive respect by the British reason why the capital was in our territory, and they collaborated with us to build the university of Ibadan

They saw us as equals

The Karnem Borno and the Yorubas and Sokotos are of a common stock. We all owned large cavalries because we travelled around and conquered the east.

We conquered the iberian peninsula (Spain, Southern Italy and Portugal) under our commander Gibr-al-Tariq. We were known as the moors and we ruled Iberia for 700 years

That is were I get my name, Moorish

Now let me rock your boat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGgGVA58dAQ

An Edo man, who knew his forefather was the brother to mine

He said Yorubas invented langauge, Math and the concept of the University, first pyramid in sudan was built by the yorubas

Watch it man

So Yorubas are the moors that conquered Spain and also built the pyramids??
You even gave your commander a Fulani name to show that you are forever subjects of the Fulanis.
You moorish is a disgrace to moneywoman, Olu, YOruba and other Yorubas on this forum.

Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by davidnazee: 9:51pm On May 28, 2018

[In fact, the measure of Benin's weakness ,can be seen in the fact that about 1876-7, a group of Ekiti and Ijesha warriors (comprising Ogedengbe of Ilesha, Aduloju and Falowo of Ado) conquered the towns and villages of the Afenmai area of the Benin kingdom and penetrated as far into the heart of the Benin kingdom as Iruekpen near Eho.
quote author=Y0ruba post=67963989]

Source: Akintoye S. A., THE NORTH-EASTERN YORUBA DISTRICTS AND THE BENIN KINGDOM, Journal of the Historical Society of Nigeria, Historical Society of Nigeria, Vol. 4, No. 4 (June 1969), pp. 539-553.[/quote]Now I believe you are just a foolish liar.. Why didn't you include how Ogedengbe fled from Edo lands with only just a warning from Benin Forces and at the sound of approaching Benin soldiers? It is all in your source you quoted.
When Benin heard Ogedengbe had penetrated into Edo land, an army was dispatched to destroy Ogedengbe, before the Benin Army attacked a message was sent to Ogedengbe to vacate Edo land and he will be spared and not killed.
Even Ogedengbe's drummers and soldiers advised him to leave or face destruction. That was how your Ogedengbe fled like a coward from Edo land. When has Benin ever fled from battle with just words or warning??

Here is what Ogedengbe's drummers sang to him that made him flee from Edo lands;

"When has Benin ever been defeated?

Never has Benin been walked on by its enemies."

All in Ogedengbe's camp heard the drums and were surprised. Anger filled Ogedengbe as he heard the drums say over and over:

"When has Benin ever been defeated?

Never has Benin been walked on by its enemies."

Doubt came to Ogedengbe. He thought: "It is true. Benin has never fallen in war." His fury for battle softened. His warriors with their weapons in their hands, they too were thinking: "Have Ogedengbe's drums ever spoken a falsehood? What they say now is so. Benin has never been beaten to the ground. Although it has many enemies Benin has only survived and grown greater."

Ogedengbe's eagerness to attack Benin diminished, until at last he ordered his fighting men to withdraw to the outskirts of the city. There he had his drummers executed for making their drums say at the very moment of attack, "When has Benin ever been defeated?" After that Ogedengbe and his army returned to Ilesha.

Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by davidnazee: 9:52pm On May 28, 2018

Y0ruba:
Source: Akintoye S. A., THE NORTH-EASTERN YORUBA DISTRICTS AND THE BENIN KINGDOM, Journal of the Historical Society of Nigeria, Historical Society of Nigeria, Vol. 4, No. 4 (June 1969), pp. 539-553.

Now I believe you are just a foolish liar.. Why didn't you include how Ogedengbe fled from Edo lands with only just a warning from Benin Forces and at the sound of approaching Benin soldiers? It is all in your source you quoted.
When Benin heard Ogedengbe had penetrated into Edo land, an army was dispatched to destroy Ogedengbe, before the Benin Army attacked a message was sent to Ogedengbe to vacate Edo land and he will be spared and not killed.
Even Ogedengbe's drummers and soldiers advised him to leave or face destruction. That was how your Ogedengbe fled like a coward from Edo land. When has Benin ever fled from battle with just words or warning??

Here is what Ogedengbe's drummers sang to him that made him flee from Edo lands;

"When has Benin ever been defeated?

Never has Benin been walked on by its enemies."

All in Ogedengbe's camp heard the drums and were surprised. Anger filled Ogedengbe as he heard the drums say over and over:

"When has Benin ever been defeated?

Never has Benin been walked on by its enemies."

Doubt came to Ogedengbe. He thought: "It is true. Benin has never fallen in war." His fury for battle softened. His warriors with their weapons in their hands, they too were thinking: "Have Ogedengbe's drums ever spoken a falsehood? What they say now is so. Benin has never been beaten to the ground. Although it has many enemies Benin has only survived and grown greater."

Ogedengbe's eagerness to attack Benin diminished, until at last he ordered his fighting men to withdraw to the outskirts of the city. There he had his drummers executed for making their drums say at the very moment of attack, "When has Benin ever been defeated?" After that Ogedengbe and his army returned to Ilesha.

Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Nobody: 10:07pm On May 28, 2018*

davidnazee:
Now I believe you are just a foolish liar.. Why didn't you include how Ogedengbe fled from Edo lands with only just a warning from Benin Forces and at the sound of approaching Benin soldiers? It is all in your source you quoted.
When Benin heard Ogedengbe had penetrated into Edo land, an army was dispatched to destroy Ogedengbe, before the Benin Army attacked a message was sent to Ogedengbe to vacate Edo land and he will be spared and not killed.
Even Ogedengbe's drummers and soldiers advised him to leave or face destruction. That was how your Ogedengbe fled like a coward from Edo land. When has Benin ever fled from battle with just words or warning??

Here is what Ogedengbe's drummers sang to him that made him flee from Edo lands;

"When has Benin ever been defeated?

Never has Benin been walked on by its enemies."

All in Ogedengbe's camp heard the drums and were surprised. Anger filled Ogedengbe as he heard the drums say over and over:

"When has Benin ever been defeated?

Never has Benin been walked on by its enemies."

Doubt came to Ogedengbe. He thought: "It is true. Benin has never fallen in war." His fury for battle softened. His warriors with their weapons in their hands, they too were thinking: "Have Ogedengbe's drums ever spoken a falsehood? What they say now is so. Benin has never been beaten to the ground. Although it has many enemies Benin has only survived and grown greater."

Ogedengbe's eagerness to attack Benin diminished, until at last he ordered his fighting men to withdraw to the outskirts of the city. There he had his drummers executed for making their drums say at the very moment of attack, "When has Benin ever been defeated?" After that Ogedengbe and his army returned to Ilesha.

Is that attack meant for me or for Prof. Akintoye or the numerous sources he used?

Provide a source for your post, thank you.

Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Obalufon: 10:14pm On May 28, 2018

EdoNation:

edo is a kingdom not an empire .

Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by laudate: 10:17pm On May 28, 2018

EdoNation:
YOU ARE A DELUDED FELLOW , YORUBA IMPOSTOR !!
IN THE OUTSKIRTS/BOUNDARY AREAS OF EDO STATE SOME AKOKO EDO PPL BEAR YORUBA NAMES BCUS OF THIER CLOSE PROXIMITY TO ONDO , SO WATS UR PROBLEM? TRYING TO MAKE A MONTAIN FROM AN ANTHILL .... DISGUSTING!!

Unfortunately for you, I am not even from the Southwest, or even Yoruba. undecided

I speak based on experience and encounters I have had, in various parts of Edo state. You need to step out of your backward place, and take a tour round all the 18 local govt areas in Edo state, from Egor to Etsako to Owan local govt areas, and you will discover that it is true. sad

Not only Akoko-Edo people bear Yoruba names. People from other parts of the state also have one or two Yoruba names, as their middle name, if not their first name. The strange thing is some of such people, may not even speak a word of Yoruba. Take a trip to different communities, and you will be shocked. Just free your mind.

You are the disgusting one, who is calling another person insulting names, simply because you cannot handle the truth. Stop throwing tantrums, and grow up!

Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Obalufon: 10:20pm On May 28, 2018

Y0ruba:
Is that attack meant for me or for Prof. Akitoyevor or the numerous sources he used?

Provide a source for your post, thank you.

Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Obalufon: 10:25pm On May 28, 2018

davidnazee:
Now I believe you are just a foolish liar.. Why didn't you include how Ogedengbe fled from Edo lands with only just a warning from Benin Forces and at the sound of approaching Benin soldiers? It is all in your source you quoted.
When Benin heard Ogedengbe had penetrated into Edo land, an army was dispatched to destroy Ogedengbe, before the Benin Army attacked a message was sent to Ogedengbe to vacate Edo land and he will be spared and not killed.
Even Ogedengbe's drummers and soldiers advised him to leave or face destruction. That was how your Ogedengbe fled like a coward from Edo land. When has Benin ever fled from battle with just words or warning??

Here is what Ogedengbe's drummers sang to him that made him flee from Edo lands;

"When has Benin ever been defeated?

Never has Benin been walked on by its enemies."

All in Ogedengbe's camp heard the drums and were surprised. Anger filled Ogedengbe as he heard the drums say over and over:

"When has Benin ever been defeated?

Never has Benin been walked on by its enemies."

Doubt came to Ogedengbe. He thought: "It is true. Benin has never fallen in war." His fury for battle softened. His warriors with their weapons in their hands, they too were thinking: "Have Ogedengbe's drums ever spoken a falsehood? What they say now is so. Benin has never been beaten to the ground. Although it has many enemies Benin has only survived and grown greater."

Ogedengbe's eagerness to attack Benin diminished, until at last he ordered his fighting men to withdraw to the outskirts of the city. There he had his drummers executed for making their drums say at the very moment of attack, "When has Benin ever been defeated?" After that Ogedengbe and his army returned to Ilesha.

another orchestrated lie ogedengbe never fled edo territory ..he totally captured the northern edo . he left there with a good bargain ..he could march on bini city without much resistance .. where were you standing royal guards when he encroached your land camped there for months. you had to wait for him to go ..he had no business with you little benin kingdom he was busy fighting with Ibadan

Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by EdoNation(f): 10:34pm On May 28, 2018

[[s]quote author=laudate post=67971505]
Unfortunately for you, I am not even from the Southwest, or even Yoruba. undecided

Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by laudate: 10:40pm On May 28, 2018

EdoNation:
Everyone on this website knows your are a craw craw faced Yoruba impostor , fvvck off nobody needs your input on this topic , it stinks of foolish lies!!

Ok, you are just in the mood to rant and throw tantrums today, right? huh

Your ignorance is boundless. You ought to get a medal for it! Oya, kindly provide incontrovertible proof to show that Laudate is Yoruba. Include the name of his town, local govt area and traditional ruler. Every correct answer gets 30 marks! Ozuor!

Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Obalufon: 10:42pm On May 28, 2018

laudate:
Unfortunately for you, I am not even from the Southwest, or even Yoruba. I speak based on experience and encounters I have had, in various parts of Edo state. You need to step out of your backward place, and take a tour round all the 18 local govt areas in Edo state, from Egor to Etsako to Owan local govt areas, and you will discover that it is true. Not only Akoko-Edo people bear Yoruba names. People from other parts of the state also have one or two Yoruba names, as their middle name, if not their first name. The strange thing is some of such people, may not even speak a word of Yoruba. Take a trip to different communities, and you will be shocked. Just free your mind.

You are the disgusting one, who is calling another person insulting names, simply because you cannot handle the truth. Stop throwing tantrums, and grow up!

you are right brother

An ARTICLE

A Yoruba enclave in the heart of Igboland •
Story of Ugbodu, others in Delta State

NIGERIAN TRIBUNE
Sunday, 24 October 2010
Written by Banji Aluko

Deep in the heart of the Igbo-speaking people in Aniocha North Local Government Area of Delta State are Ugbodu and three other communities where Oluku mi, a derivative of Yoruba language, is the language of the people. BANJI ALUKO, who visited the communities, examines how close Oluku mi actually is to the Yoruba language and traces how the people came about the language.

HELLO, this writer said, while knocking at the door, and a young lady, emerging from the building, replied, ta ni yen? When the writer heard the reply, he taught it was a mere coincidence or that his ears were deceiving him. Of course, he had every reason to be surprised since he was not anywhere near the Yoruba enclave where such a reply can only be anticipated. After all, he was more than 100 kilometres away from the nearest Yoruba community; he was in Ugbodu, a town in Aniocha North Local government Area of Delta State.

While trying to decipher why the lady gave such a reply, what further followed put the writer in a more confused position. A girl of about five appeared and said, “mo fe ra biscuit.” Perhaps, the people are part of the Yoruba community living in the town, the writer guessed as he tried to find out from the lady.

“Are you a Yoruba woman; what is the meaning of ta ni yen?” The writer asked the questions at once. Reluctantly, she answered, “I am not Yoruba o, I am just speaking my language.” Apparently, she was not unaware of the similarity between her language and Yoruba language. The lady refused to entertain any further question about her language and asked him to go to the king’s palace or to the elders if he wanted to know more about the language.

At the palace, the elders still would not talk about the similarity between their language and Yoruba. They asked the writer to wait for the arrival of the king, who they said can only speak on the people, their language and their history.

The period of waiting for the king afforded one time to listen to the conversation and the discovery was nonetheless remarkable. Following closely the conversation between some elderly men and with a deep knowledge of Yoruba, one could establish a nexus between their speech and actions. In fact, some words and expressions could be understood.

Following their conversation with rapt attention, expressions such as Gbemu wa—bring palm wine, me wa nani—I didn’t come yesterday, me ri e—I didn’t see you, mu beer oka wa—bring one beer etc could be heard, albeit with an intonation slightly different from that of the Yorubas.

Seeing the desire of this writer to follow their talk, one man finally volunteered to explain the similarity between their language and Yoruba. “I believe you are a Yoruba man,” he said. He continued: “We are Oluku mi speakers but we speak a language that is very similar to Yoruba.” This he demonstrated by pointing out some words and expressions in their language (Oluku mi) which denote the same meanings as Yoruba.

He gave some examples such as ita—pepper, ogede lila—plantain, ogede keke—banana; ku wu se—what are you doing; ule house; osa – market; oma—child; o dowuo—see you tomorrow, e bo—welcome. After explaining some similarities between the languages, he still refused to talk about how the people of Ugbodu, in the middle of other Igbo speaking neighbours, came about Oluku mi. Like others, he maintained that only the traditional ruler of the town can speak about how Oluku mi became their language.

But after waiting endlessly for the king, his brother, Prince Adebowale Ochei, who later arrived the scene, volunteered to speak on behalf of the king, H.R.M. Ayo Isinyemeze, the Oloza (Obi) of Ugbodu. According to him, history gave it that the Ugbodu Oluku mi speaking people migrated from Owo/Akure axis in the present Ondo State between 9th and 11th century AD to settle down in Benin during the reign of King Ogiso of Benin.

He continued: “At this period in the history of the Benin Kingdom, the most neglected of the wife of the Ogiso gave birth to the heir apparent to the throne. After the woman gave birth to the child, a male, the nobles consulted the oracle and said that the oracle told them that the child should be killed for peace to reign in Benin Kingdom. At the end, the child was not killed as it was said that the child was too handsome to be killed, so a fowl was killed in his place.”

According to Ochei, this was the reason the Ugbodu people left Benin. “They felt that if a crown prince could be ordered for execution just like that, they could do worse things to strangers in their midst. As a result, they left Benin and came to Ewohimi, an Ishan speaking community in Edo State. Due to intra-tribal wars, they later left the place to settle down here in Ugbodu which is a shortened form of Ugbodumila, which means bush saved me in English Language.”

He further pointed out differences between Oluku mi and Yoruba. He said one notable difference is the changing of letter “j” in Yoruba words to “s” in Oluku mi as seen in words like oloja or oja which are rendered as olosa or osa and joko as soko.

With the movement of the people was the consequent change in their language as shown in their names. According to records compiled by Prince Humphrey Ojeabu Ochei, the immediate Olihen of Ugbodu, the first six Olozas bore Yoruba names namely Adeola, Aderemi, Ariyo, Odofin, Adetunji and Oyetunde. These early kings bore typical Yoruba names years and decades after the establishment of the Ugbodu Kingdom.

As the people gradually lost contact with their kinsmen back home, they began to gravitate towards the Benin and Edo communities. The resulting acculturative process gradually led to the adoption of Edo names among the people. Hence names such as Ogbomon, Ozolua, Izebuwa, Ogbelaka, Izedonwen, Osakpolor, Esigie Igbinadolor, Osaloua, Osamewamen and Ebor emerged as Olozas.

Since Ugbodu is surrounded by the Igbo-speaking Aniomas, it did not take much time before the Igbo Language started to interfere greatly on the people’s language. Accordingly, Igbo influence steadily and progressively made what has now become permanent inroad and considerable impact on the socio-cultural life as well as linguistic orientation of the Ugbodu people. With this, the Edo influence began to wane, resulting in the adoption of Igbo names in preference to Edo names. Thus from the middle of the 19th century, the general shift was from Edo to Igbo names. This can be seen in the names of Olozas, who ruled between the middle of the 19th century and late 20th century such as Dike, Ochei, Ezenweani and Isinyemeze.

Investigations conducted revealed that Ugbodu is not the only community where Oluku mi is spoken in Aniocha North Local Government as the language is also spoken in Ukwu-Nzu (Eko Efun), Ubulubu and Ogodo.

At Ukwu-Nzu, only few kilometres away from Ugbodu, the language is not also different. Although, the people are less emphatic about their history, nonetheless, the similarity between their language and Yoruba is evident in their names and greetings. “Oju e ma won ke,” meaning your face is scarce in Yoruba, was what a man said to his friend he accosted on the road. When Sunday Tribune approached the man, who gave his name as Ayo Oke, he shed light on his language and provided more examples between Oluku mi and Yoruba Language.

He said that “instead of saying e kaabo, we say e bo, meaning welcome and wa ni we yi, meaning come here;” He also gave example of words which virtually have the same meanings as the Yoruba language. Some of these include obe—stew; oni—today; ola—tomorrow; otunla—next tomorrow etc.

Another elder in the town, who spoke with Sunday Tribune, said that the name of Ukwu-Nzu before the Igbo Language “infiltrated” their language was Eko Efun (efun means chalk in Yoruba Language). He also attributed the efun in the name of their town to the rich prescence of white chalk in the town which he said the community was richly blessed with.

Presently, the biggest challenge for the people of Ugbodu and other Oluku mi-speaking communities is how to protect their language and culture in general. According to a native of Ugbodu, “the elders are more connected to the original Olukumi language than the youth. In fact, we have lost the real Oluku mi and what we have now is an Oluku mi that has been greatly altered by Igbo language. Most of the people who can really speak the language right now are the elders. Ordinarily, the real Oluku mi is like the Yoruba that is spoken in Owo in Ondo State. Someone from that place is expected to understand the language perfectly but right now someone from Owo might not be able to understand more than 50 per cent of our language. This language may die if care is not taken,” he said.

Another factor that also contributed to the decline of Olukumi, according to findings, is that there was a time in the past when an understanding of the Edo or Igbo language, was considered as a status symbol. According to an elder in the town, “An Oluku mi who spoke the two languages then was considered superior to others because it meant that he had travelled wide. This was the inferiority complex our people unwittingly created for themselves which we are trying to correct now.”

In protecting their language which is gradually being threatened, a revival process has been started. Part of this is that some of them now choose to give their children Oluku mi names and to sing and say prayers in Oluku mi. In some cases, some radical reformers and revivalists changed the names given to them by their parents from Igbo to Olukumi. The climax of the restoration process of their linguistic ethos and identity was the christening of the incumbent Oloza with an Olukumi name, Ayo.

Reacting to efforts aimed at protecting Oluku mi, Prince Adebowale said, “I am an Oluku mi man and I am proud of my language. I am not happy that Igbo language is interfering with our language. We are trying our best to correct the situation and part of that is what my brother (the Oloza) is doing by organising an Oluku mi reciting competition. We want to know the people who can speak the real Oluku mi without mixing it with Igbo or English.” As laudable as the task of protecting Oluku mi by the people of Ugbodu(mila) is, only time will tell how far they can go.

Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Obalufon: 10:47pm On May 28, 2018

EdoNation:
[[s]quote author=laudate post=67971505]
Unfortunately for you, I am not even from the Southwest, or even Yoruba. I speak based on experience and encounters I have had, in various parts of Edo state. You need to step out of your backward place, and take a tour round all the 18 local govt areas in Edo state, from Egor to Etsako to Owan local govt areas, and you will discover that it is true. Not only Akoko-Edo people bear Yoruba names. People from other parts of the state also have one or two Yoruba names, as their middle name, if not their first name. The strange thing is some of such people, may not even speak a word of Yoruba. Take a trip to different communities, and you will be shocked. Just free your mind.

You are the disgusting one, who is calling another person insulting names, simply because you cannot handle the truth. Stop throwing tantrums, and grow up![/s]

Everyone on this website knows your are a craw craw faced Yoruba impostor , fvvck off nobody needs your input on this topic , it stinks of foolish lies!!

YOU ARE NOT EVEN EDO ..YOU BE IBO

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Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by EdoNation(f): 11:00pm On May 28, 2018

laudate:
Ok, you are just in the mood to rant and throw tantrums today, right? Your ignorance is boundless. You ought to get a medal for it! Oya, kindly provide incontrovertible proof to show that Laudate is Yoruba. Include the name of his town, local govt area and traditional ruler. Every correct answer gets 30 marks! Ozuor!

I dare you to tell us where you are from!! Tell us oo let us know.... Fvvcking Impostor , you will die untop Edo matter met nor consign you.... Yoruba name indeed grin

why isn't it Slovakia abi Mali..... Confused slow poke

Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by laudate: 11:04pm On May 28, 2018

EdoNation:
I dare you to tell us where you are from!! Tell us oo let us know.... Fvvcking Impostor , you will die untop Edo matter met nor consign you.... Yoruba name indeed why isn't it Slovakia abi Mali..... Confused slow poke

Ozuor! So you are still ranting? shocked

I gave you a simple assignment or homework, so that you can prove your allegations, instead of doing the research, you are busy throwing tantrums on this thread. Eyi man'ue, ughue gbehu. undecided

Erere we m'agba.

Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by EdoNation(f): 11:20pm On May 28, 2018

laudate:
Ozuor! So you are still ranting? I gave you a simple assignment or homework, so that you can prove your allegations, instead of doing the research, you are busy throwing tantrums on this thread. Eyi man'ue, ughue gbehu. Erere we m'agba.

Now the mumu has been reduced to typing gibberish hahaha fvvcking Yoruba imposter , ewedu oil full ur mouth cheesy

Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by laudate: 11:22pm On May 28, 2018

EdoNation:
Now the mumu called EdoNation has been reduced to typing gibberish hahaha fvvcking Yoruba imposter , ewedu oil full ur mouth anuofia

Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by EdoNation(f): 12:20am On May 29, 2018

[quote author=laudate post=67973085][/quote]Shameless Yoruba hermaphrodite cheesy

Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by laudate: 12:27am On May 29, 2018

EdoNation:
Edo Nation is a Shameless Yoruba hermaphrodite

Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by davidnazee: 12:29am On May 29, 2018

Obalufon:
another orchestrated lie ogedengbe never fled edo territory ..he totally captured the northern edo . he left there with a good bargain ..he could march on bini city without much resistance .. where were you standing royal guards when he encroached your land camped there for months. you had to wait for him to go ..he had no business with you little benin kingdom he was busy fighting with Ibadan

Ogedengbe the coward fled Edo land. He ventured into Edoland and captured a few towns.. message from the palace was “look around you, if the soil you are standing is red then you are on Edo territory, leave now and you will not be harmed, if you refuse then you will die”.
That’s the only message from the palace and your ogedenbge fled like a coward.. why he no stay fight?

And for your info, Great Benin help the Eastern Yorubas fight and defeat Ibadan.

Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by BabaRamota1980: 1:34am On May 29, 2018

Obalufon:
edo is a kingdom not an empire .

Edo is a what huh

Puleeaze! Edo has never had an indigeneous king, and never will. There is nothing known as Edo kingdom. Who dash monkey?

Oranmiyan dynasty is ruling now and is known as Bini Kingdom.

Next dynasty after Oranmiyan will be Ginuwa. It will be known as Olu of Edo.

After that will be Oru. That one will be Pere of Edo.

Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Moorish: 3:47am On May 29, 2018

davidnazee:
So Yorubas are the moors that conquered Spain and also built the pyramids??
You even gave your commander a Fulani name to show that you are forever subjects of the Fulanis.
You moorish is a disgrace to moneywoman, Olu, YOruba and other Yorubas on this forum.

My mum is from the hausa/fulani tribe so I can claim that too

And my dad is a bonafide son of Oyo

Your words have no effect on me

Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Moorish: 3:51am On May 29, 2018*

My brothers who mentioned the Igbo

The igbo are a holy people

The igbo and yoruba were taken in chains as slaves as predicted by the most high in deuteronomy

Have you ever heard of any black american or carribean person claiming benin descent??

Benin people are not from the most high God

We are hebrews and we need to stick to our brothers only

know your enemies my people

The fulani are also a hebrew tribe

They are our brethren

Our king defeated the italians (Mussolini) in the battle of adowa 2

The only african country not colonized

Ethiopia

King Haille Selassie Qadamawi Most high of israel

Benin are a gentile nation, people who sacrifice human beings

Come out of her my people

Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by gregyboy(m): 1:14pm On May 29, 2018

laudate:
Wrong! I have met several Edo people that bear Yoruba names, and their mothers were never remotely related to Yoruba.

Have u read the benin akure chiefs....just goggle you ser why you see benins having Yoruba names not only yoruba names Igbo names as wells as urohobo making sound its only yoruba binis bear thier names make you look ignorant ...

Benin bear names like ojo idowu etc this are Benin's who ruled yoruba state and later came back to benin after benin fell to british to help oba akenzuwa restore bck benin

Names like oghene ese, efe,most urhobo bear the name also benin do also

Names like okoro,okojie which both deltans and igbos bear are also names in edo....

The problem with nigerians is we tend to leave the pre indepence history and focus on the post indepence history.... History were also made after 1897 after the fall of benin the oba was given two choice to remain in seat either he marries a white lady or he gives up his vassal territories and stay in Nigeria which he made a choice to give up his territories than to have a white lady in benin stool ...benin chiefs all over its territories all came back to benin to help benin build it state back after the destruction they brought new names like the yoruba names you see edo bear some also stayed behind...i leave you to judge

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Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by davidnazee: 1:21pm On May 29, 2018

Moorish:
My brothers who mentioned the Igbo

The igbo are a holy people

The igbo and yoruba were taken in chains as slaves as predicted by the most high in deuteronomy

Have you ever heard of any black american or carribean person claiming benin descent??

Benin people are not from the most high God

We are hebrews and we need to stick to our brothers only

know your enemies my people

The fulani are also a hebrew tribe

They are our brethren

Our king defeated the italians (Mussolini) in the battle of adowa 2

The only african country not colonized

Ethiopia

King Haille Selassie Qadamawi Most high of israel

Benin are a gentile nation, people who sacrifice human beings

Come out of her my people

You are a disgrace..

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Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by gregyboy(m): 1:43pm On May 29, 2018*

Obalufon:
another orchestrated lie ogedengbe never fled edo territory ..he totally captured the northern edo . he left there with a good bargain ..he could march on bini city without much resistance .. where were you standing royal guards when he encroached your land camped there for months. you had to wait for him to go ..he had no business with you little benin kingdom he was busy fighting with Ibadan

You again with ur lies....
I have been to auchi and there is a street called ogedengbe at first i thought it was an edo name untill something led to the discussion of the history. ...
According to them he was a man who tutored around edo north during the 18century untill words were sent to the obas and he retreated hearing the oba warning....lets analze it factually
No matter how strong ogedengbe jazz is wepons would always kill him that for sure benin had military camps in all its territories it was on record that the oba had the power to summon 34,000 soilders in a day to war which ogedengbe cant witstand 2days .... The power oba ovuramwen poured on the british it's alone to sack almost all yoruba kings from their stool not to say ogendegbe ....

I leave you to argue this fact with another rezonable person outside your ethnic group

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Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by davidnazee: 1:54pm On May 29, 2018

BabaRamota1980:
Edo is a what

Puleeaze! Edo has never had an indigeneous king, and never will. There is nothing known as Edo kingdom. Who dash monkey?

Oranmiyan dynasty is ruling now and is known as Bini Kingdom.

Next dynasty after Oranmiyan will be Ginuwa. It will be known as Olu of Edo.

After that will be Oru. That one will be Pere of Edo.

Is there anything like Yoruba empire? The only empire from western Nigeria is the Oyo empire which died a painful death..

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Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by gregyboy(m): 2:08pm On May 29, 2018*

davidnazee:
Is there anything like Yoruba empire? The only empire from western Nigeria is the Oyo empire which died a painful death..

Why accloade oyo as an empire its not even fit for a kindom it had no flag no symbol of authority
No planned street no form of document no walls no moat no internal defence ..nothing to befit a kingdom not to say an empire...benin fought in thier war and proclaim victory over it and culptured their city in return the ekiti ibadan war .
Is a place called an empire if the people who made the empire where its family members even upto benin republic ...pls always tell them they had no empire thier history started at 12century
Till it ended it never had a kingdom nor empire if it did the Europeans would have a way notice just the way the notice benins ...
If you check nigeria map you would see yorubas were more closer to the coast than edo or benins ...oyo ,ogun,lagos,Delta etc where all closer to the coast land he could be the europeans saw this people as very primitive and nothing to associate with them it could also be that they visted yorubas towns closed to the coast but found benin influenced on them ....

And yorubas come here to say because edo lies close to the coast thats why the europeans visites them. they forget they are closer to the coast lands than Edo's.. But edo made use of the coast lands before the knew anything about coast land....edo is birth of civilisation in west africa....

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Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Obalufon: 4:05pm On May 29, 2018

davidnazee:
So Yorubas are the moors that conquered Spain and also built the pyramids??
You even gave your commander a Fulani name to show that you are forever subjects of the Fulanis.
You moorish is a disgrace to moneywoman, Olu, YOruba and other Yorubas on this forum.

fulani never conquered oyo ..go to ilorin weather you will see fulani ..they were scholars being used then by oyo general ... people that fought the war were yoruba people that embraced islam nothing more ..after alimi was made chief imam after the death of afonja..ilorin..even the present emir bares yoruba name

Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Obalufon: 4:16pm On May 29, 2018

gregyboy:
Why accloade oyo as an empire its not even fit for a kindom it had no flag no symbol of authority
No planned street no form of document no walls no moat no internal defence ..nothing to befit a kingdom not to say an empire...benin fought in thier war and proclaim victory over it and culptured their city in return the ekiti ibadan war .
Is a place called an empire if the people who made the empire where its family members even upto benin republic ...pls always tell them they had no empire thier history started at 12century
Till it ended it never had a kingdom nor empire if it did the Europeans would have a way notice just the way the notice benins ...
If you check nigeria map you would see yorubas were more closer to the coast than edo or benins ...oyo ,ogun,lagos,Delta etc where all closer to the coast land he could be the europeans saw this people as very primitive and nothing to associate with them it could also be that they visted yorubas towns closed to the coast but found benin influenced on them ....

And yorubas come here to say because edo lies close to the coast thats why the europeans visites them. they forget they are closer to the coast lands than Edo's.. But edo made use of the coast lands before the knew anything about coast land....edo is birth of civilisation in west africa....

can't blame you .. you can't claim what you are not Oyo was a great empire that deserve credit .. Keep telling us stories based of sentiment and hatred how benin kingdom fought owo, akure ..i will tell you how how oyo defeated empire and great kingdoms to become an empire oramiyan established an empire at the bank of river Niger strategic spot to build a civilization go online read and make search the evidence are there for you ... ..

Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Obalufon: 4:19pm On May 29, 2018

gregyboy:
Have u read the benin akure chiefs....just goggle you ser why you see benins having Yoruba names not only yoruba names Igbo names as wells as urohobo making sound its only yoruba binis bear thier names make you look ignorant ...

Benin bear names like ojo idowu etc this are Benin's who ruled yoruba state and later came back to benin after benin fell to british to help oba akenzuwa restore bck benin

Names like oghene ese, efe,most urhobo bear the name also benin do also

Names like okoro,okojie which both deltans and igbos bear are also names in edo....

The problem with nigerians is we tend to leave the pre indepence history and focus on the post indepence history.... History were also made after 1897 after the fall of benin the oba was given two choice to remain in seat either he marries a white lady or he gives up his vassal territories and stay in Nigeria which he made a choice to give up his territories than to have a white lady in benin stool ...benin chiefs all over its territories all came back to benin to help benin build it state back after the destruction they brought new names like the yoruba names you see edo bear some also stayed behind...i leave you to judge

stop this lies

Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by davidnazee: 4:27pm On May 29, 2018

Obalufon:
fulani never conquered oyo ..go to ilorin weather you will see fulani ..they were scholars being used then by oyo general ... people that fought the war were yoruba people that embraced islam nothing more ..after alimi was made chief imam after the death of afonja..ilorin..even the present emir bares yoruba name

So the emir in Ilorin is a Yoruba man?

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