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davidnazee:
See more brushing for Oyo.. chai! poor Oyo.

Moneywomen17:
post the original source of what u first said don’t run away. What u post was egba getting free of oyo and Dahomey ending Yoruba hegemony over them meaning Dahomey stop being oyo tributary which align with what the British said that oyo ruled over Dahomey and Benin.

davidnazee:
I know it’s painful.. ur heart must be breaking now and worst still I’m enjoying torturing you.. anyways see screenshot of what I wrote earlier and after u read it pls tell the nearest person to you make he give u hard knock for your head..

davidnazee:
Mugu read what your British masters actually say they saw..

“By the time Captain Hugh Clapperton visited Oyo-Ile in 1825 during the reign of Alaafin Majotu, the empire was already in a state of decline. Clapperton's party recorded passing numerous Oyo villages burned by the Fulani (Ilorin) while Majotu had also sought the help of the English king and the Oba of Benin in putting down the Ilorin rebellion. Clapperton also noticed a shortage of horses, even though the Oyo were renowned as a great cavalry force; this might have something to do with the fact that most of the empire's soldiers and hence cavalry were stationed at Ilorin under the command of Afonja and later on Alimi's successors.[47]

Ilorin then besieged Offa and started raiding, burning and pillaging villages in Oyo, eventually destroying the capital Oyo-Ile in 1835.”

You see even at that time Benin Kingdom was the most powerful that even your dying Oyo was begging Benin military for help..
You can keep bring what the British said they were told and I will be bringing what they said they saw..

MetaPhysical:
Igala also had a war with the Binis defeating Binis and carried the mask, which hitherto Oba of Benin used to wear. It means in the spiritual realm that Attah Igala is wearing the head of Oba of Benin. It was called, Eju-beju ailo; one other thing alien to the Igala then which was among items carried from Oba’s palace was cocoa nut was not known to Igalas. They describe it as resembling palm kernel belonging to Oba of Benin.

After the defeat in the first war, which they (Binis) suffered in the hands of the Igalas, no stone was left unturnrd in the second war. Firstly, they let loosed their beautiful girlsn to go naked into the camp of the Igala soldiers in an attempt to defile them. Secondly they hired the service of the Portuguese mercenaries who fought on the side of the Binis. . The Igala soldiers who went to invade Bini retreated but could not come back home. They were afraid of returning because they did not abide by the instruction given them by their king. Then, they settled by the river banks near Idah (Iba-aji).

In 1515, from Portuguese missionary records, we know that the Igala fought fiercely and gallantly in war that made the Oba of Benin to request the aid of the Portugal mercenaries to support the war with ammunition to describe the strength and skill of Galla people in war.

Moneywomen17:
u mean igala use bini for suya

MetaPhysical:
Baba ramota thank you much for that analysis. I enjoyed it.

You correctly picked holes and gaps in the story that Edo struggle to explain. Can you imagine a king ordering execution of his only son and heir? ABOMINATION! I love your analogy with the dumb house owner burning his family home in hope for more. Im surprised king never even asked for the son's corpse, his only son for that matter!

Such weird and twisted humans, with the dishonorable Queen in tow is what they want us to believe as the founders for our majestic thrones. Even their witchcraft is not potent enough to make this one believable. WE REJECT THE HOAX!

Good job my brother!

MetaPhysical:
Let them deny it. I will bring a more damning report.

They got this far because of our silence in past.

Moneywomen17:
no more silence I dey here kampe seeing how the guy was twisting Hugh Clapperton saying we were asking help from small village bini he must think we are illiterate here. How does someone who died before 1835 know that Fulani sack oyo ile in 1835.

davidnazee:
See yorubas using igalas as their talking point.. it shows u have no legacy of ur own. Shame lol
Anyways I will treat the igala issue later but now I’m focusing on Edo people conquest and subjugation of the Yoruba race.
Enjoy the post below, more are coming.

davidnazee:
See yorubas using igalas as their talking point.. it shows u have no legacy of ur own. Shame lol
Anyways I will treat the igala issue later but now I’m focusing on Edo people conquest and subjugation of the Yoruba race.
Enjoy the post below, more are coming.

BabaRamota1980:
Stop posting articles written by Edo here.

Post articles from independent sources....or one from your opponent talking about you.

Give us source of this article so we can verify.

Moneywomen17:
no more silence I dey here kampe seeing how the guy was twisting Hugh Clapperton saying we were asking help from small village bini he must think we are illiterate here. How does someone who died before 1835 know that Fulani sack oyo ile in 1835.

BabaRamota1980:
Go online and everything you see talking Ife-Benin is all authored by Edo. Particularly this ekaladherqn story,it has almost become the truth. It is all on web and everyone of the writings is by an Edo person.

Not a single one from independent contributors.

They want to permanently displace our authentic history and replace it with the story of a fugitive and his demented Ogiso fathet.

I blame our Yoruba historian. Our ancestors handed works down which supports their history of migration from East. East here meaning Mondiana. Arts, worship, culture, philosophy all support this oral claim. But because same East is now the home of Islam our historians reject it.

Spain is a Christian country...mention Andalusia, and they will respond back to you with pride of history. Andalusia was an Islamic civilization.

So in our reluctance to honor our ancestral history, now we find Edos trying to convince the world that these Yorubas do have a history of coming from East. Ekaladheran is their East. I mean, can we really blame Edos? Our historians rather have a fugitive as founder than accept Mondiana as our beginning.

MetaPhysical:
Baba ramota thank you much for that analysis. I enjoyed it.

You correctly picked holes and gaps in the story that Edo struggle to explain. Can you imagine a king ordering execution of his only son and heir? ABOMINATION! I love your analogy with the dumb house owner burning his family home in hope for more. Im surprised king never even asked for the son's corpse, his only son for that matter!

Such weird and twisted humans, with the dishonorable Queen in tow is what they want us to believe as the founders for our majestic thrones. Even their witchcraft is not potent enough to make this one believable. WE REJECT THE HOAX!

Good job my brother!

BabaRamota1980:
Baba alaye, Iba o! I dey try to be like you o.

I didnt want to open the ekaladheran topic so I tried many times to bait them to open it up. They dodged...until that mumu took the bait. You see how quick i jumped on it.


Abeg just think for a minute...

We are dealing with a king that is weak and useless. Sending his young beautiful woman with some useless chiefs to go ask oracle his fate. Then we also have a cheap and dishonorable woman using her beauty and appeal to compromise her husband's ministers. Not to talk of the chiefs themselves disobeying their king, the oracle and then setting off a prince into bush as if he is a farmer. Even farmer sef dey carry hin wife or son along to enter bush.
The sadness is where the king never even looked back on the son he ordered to be executed. A normnal human will give his son a decent burial. This king did not even care.

Crude, uncivilized, barbaric, disorderly, disoriented, freaks....that's what these people are. Till today the traces are still there for all to see. Abnormal classless set of people.

Mttchheww...if i say wetin dey my mind about Edo these mods go hand me 10yr ban straight. Make i keep mah mouth shut.

Moneywomen17:
that story na school boy story.

davidnazee:
Yoruba boys lol...
Never you guys forget how Edo people was beheading your kings, replacing your kings with Edo administrators, sacking full Yoruba towns and relocating the citizens to different cities..
history and records judge Edo to be supreme over Yoruba..
we are conquerors and you are the conquered.. abi una want make I post screenshots of Edo conquests of Yoruba lands?

Moneywomen17:
Africa story is authored by the European which leaves a lot of controversy because most of it then is left to oral story and oral story’s it has different version and many people saying conflicting info. Benin will never accept our claim and we will never accept theirs which is the truth and since we can’t go back in time it leaves it uncertain for both parties with each other just sticking to their beliefs. Now ife history says oduduwa came from east of Ife which is oke-ora and we know of no mondiana or whatever u call it then so I accept that but I feel the linking of Islam to oduduwa is recent not historical and that’s why it’s rejected. All we are doing here is well at first is arguing with logic and since guys like davidnaze are not down with that this has just turn into a slug fest. Everything about oduduwa is in ife and none in edo that’s certain and nothing can erase that.

Moneywomen17:
edo boys never u forget how ogedengbe was killing ur chiefs sacking ur town floging ur kings and taking ur women, Yoruba king rule over u and displace ur ogiamen, Yoruba priest are ur priest. Bini was conquered by Yoruba from the time of oranmiyan till the time they break free from western region. Edo are slave to not only their Yoruba master but ur igala master also flog bini too what a shame small edo abi u want me to post screen shot of Yoruba ruling u and igala sacking ur lands? Well u will have to wait am done on this thread for now we go see adios my boy.

Moneywomen17:
edo boys never u forget how ogedengbe was killing ur chiefs sacking ur town floging ur kings and taking ur women, Yoruba king rule over u and displace ur ogiamen, Yoruba priest are ur priest. Bini was conquered by Yoruba from the time of oranmiyan till the time they break free from western region. Edo are slave to not only their Yoruba master but ur igala master also flog bini too what a shame small edo abi u want me to post screen shot of Yoruba ruling u and igala sacking ur lands? Well u will have to wait am done on this thread for now we go see adios my boy.

MetaPhysical:
I don't know why baba ramota even brought this in here. Look at the bold. I will be more than happy to discuss with you on a different thread, not here. There is a thread opened by blkmum200 and is called Where is Oduduwa really from? There is another one opened by 2prexios and is called Origin of the name Yoruba. Pick either ne and we can discuss at length. I have some hard to deny truths and insights to share with you.

Moneywomen17:
edo boys never u forget how ogedengbe was killing ur chiefs sacking ur town floging ur kings and taking ur women, Yoruba king rule over u and displace ur ogiamen, Yoruba priest are ur priest. Bini was conquered by Yoruba from the time of oranmiyan till the time they break free from western region. Edo are slave to not only their Yoruba master but ur igala master also flog bini too what a shame small edo abi u want me to post screen shot of Yoruba ruling u and igala sacking ur lands? Well u will have to wait am done on this thread for now we go see adios my boy.

davidnazee:
Shut up.. there is no screenshots of that anywhere in the world..
but on the other hand I have hundreds of screenshots of Benin “hordes” (I like the word hordes, sounds terrifying) ravaging Eastern Yoruba..

davidnazee:
The only truth is Oduduwa is an Edo son.. his real name is Ekhaladeran..
Edo people conquered and ruled parts of Yoruba lands and people..
The British freed Yorubas from Edo’s rule (Yoruba was too weak to resist)
Any other stories you will give is false and an attempt by you to feel good with yourselves but I will never allow that. I’m here to torture you with the truth.

Lord Nama-Oru and his people made their way from Upper Egypt first to the Lake Chad region and then to the Bussa (Buassa) and Nupe regions on the middle Niger. It was here that they made a temporary home (The Borgu Kingdom). Other key actors who have been remembered as ancestors include Prince ADUMU (ADIMU, a.k.a. Oduduwa) eldest son to Lord NAMA-ORU and his close companion and Priest ASARA. While Nama-Oru died at Bussa and Asara remained permanently at Bussa, Prince Adumu led a group of explorers to explore the southern forest lands down to the Lower Niger, and eventually choose the Ife region as a place to establish a permanent kingdom. But already established in the land, in scattered communities were the Kwa (Ugbo, Ooyelagbo) who had arrived somewhat earlier within the same timeframe from an earlier settlement between the Niger/Benue confluence. While some of these earlier settlers welcomed the newly arrived and supported the foundation of a city-state, others opposed it. Thus the stage was set for the legendary war that gave birth to the first City State in the southern savannah region of West Africa.
The City-state of Otu-Ife, later to be known as Ile-Ife was founded through the warfare of two opposing factions. The opposing factions were not strictly ORU PEOPLE verses the KWA (OOYELAGBO), but ORU and OOYELAGBO people fighting against other OOYELAGBO people. Tradition maintains that the immediate cause of the war was to oppose the new kingdom, but also to overthrow some form of misrule or maladministration of the previous form of governance.

The establishment of the new city was opposed by certain sections of the OOYELAGBO communities led by the chief OBATLA priest remembered as ORELUERE, who argued that since it was they who arrived first, the king of the new city must be from amongst them. This led to a war told in the ancestral traditions as the “war between ODUDUWA & OBATALA” In reality it was a conflict between two theocratic systems of government. On the one hand we had the new form of centralised Government based on a theocratic monarchy focused on the SUPREME MOTHER GODDESS (WOYINGI in Oru language & ODUDUWA in Ooyelagbo language)[iii]. The Ooyelagbo form of traditional chief’s council opposed this with the head chief being focused on the GODHEAD (OBATALA).

With the help of the dissatisfied or marginalised sections of the OOYELAGBO communities, led by Oba-Meri, and combined with ORU people living in the nearby regions; the leaders of the ORU-KUMONI people headed by Prince ADUMU[iv] went to war and defeated the opposing factions of Ooyelagbo. He then established his centralised city-state government. Prince Adumu was also a priest of the SUPREME MOTHER GODDESS LODGE (known in ORU-Kumoni language as Woyingi, and in Ooyelagbo language as Oduduwa) and at the same time, a high initiate of the ancient ADUMU (ADUM, ATUM) spiritual Initiation lodge of Ancient Egypt (Kemet).

Before the final setting up of the new government (administrative dynasty) Prince Adumu invited the leaders of the formerly hostile Ooyelagbo communities and his own allies (the Oru-Kumoni and Ooyelagbo alliance) to a constitutional conference. It was agreed to form a theocratic confederacy where all the communities living in the area would swear allegiance to Prince Adumu, but have control over their own internal affairs. At that conference Prince Adumu was declared the ‘ALA – AFIN’ i.e. LORD OF THE FORTRESS (ALA-lord or chief, AFIN-fortress), ‘ADUMU – ALA’ i.e. ADUMU THE LORD, and King of Otu-Ife, henceforth to be addressed as “ALA-AFIN ADUMU-ALA”[v] modified to OLOFIN in present Yoruba language. He was also addressed as the alias ‘ODUDUWA’, as it was the term in the Ooyelagbo language for the Mother Goddess of which he was a priest, even though his actual name and title was ADUMU-ALA[vi]

Even though through superior warfare tactics King Adumu (The Opu-Suo) had established his city-state, he could not subdue all the opposing sections of the Ooyelagbo communities who continued to trouble the new city from the surrounding forests. At this early stage, even while unification was yet complete, some of the ORU warlords and their companions left Ife to establish themselves at the source of the great river (Niger), after accomplishing their task of setting up the City state with King Adumu-Ala as the first dynastic king. These included groups led by the following leaders who were said to have been princes of King Adumu; Prince Ijo (The Kala-Suo) alias Idekoseroake or Etekuro)) who led a migration to the present Benin region and finally central Niger Delta: Prince Nana who led a migration to the present Ghana region: Prince Igodo (Godo, The Ogi-Suo) who led a second group to the present Benin region, and established a centralised government to become the first ruler or OGISO: Prince Ogbogbodiri (a.ka. Lufon I) who first established at Old Oyo (Oyokoro).

MetaPhysical:
As told by your neighbors, the Ijaws....

Moneywomen17:
Africa story is authored by the European which leaves a lot of controversy because most of it then is left to oral story and oral story’s it has different version and many people saying conflicting info. Benin will never accept our claim and we will never accept theirs which is the truth and since we can’t go back in time it leaves it uncertain for both parties with each other just sticking to their beliefs. Now ife history says oduduwa came from east of Ife which is oke-ora and we know of no mondiana or whatever u call it then so I accept that but I feel the linking of Islam to oduduwa is recent not historical and that’s why it’s rejected. All we are doing here is well at first is arguing with logic and since guys like davidnaze are not down with that this has just turn into a slug fest. Everything about oduduwa is in ife and none in edo that’s certain and nothing can erase that.

Moneywomen17:
my guy shut up Benin king head was buried in ife in the orun oba ado not the other way around. A Yoruba man statue was found in ur oba palace coz ur king was worshipping his father. Ur oba is a Yoruba descendant of oramiyan. Even ur oba tell the Portuguese that he owes a spiritual allegiance to ife. Benin came on their knee to ife to beg for king ife never went to Benin. Benin was a small village that could not even stamp his authority anywhere. European gave Yoruba gun not one small Benin who were still fighting primitive with cutlass and infantry. U guys never even had cavalry. Just forget it yoruba was ur boss in the past and still today. In fact Yoruba rule over u so much that u had to cry for the fg to help u create ur own mid western region so that u will not die as yoruba slaves. But u can not escape Yoruba domination u still bear our name worship our gods and even ur omo n oba na Yoruba descendant I know the truth hurts but accept it benin na yoruba boy end of story. Pele se o gbo