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Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by steveosaz(m): 5:44pm On Jun 03, 2018
samuk:
With this your writeup, you exposed yourself as an ignoramus and unable to learn. A simple Google search would have told you that the European arrived and wrote about Benin as far back as the year 1485 and when they arrived the Benin defensive moat was already in place. If this is your level of knowledge, then it's a complete waste of time debating you. I hope your other compatriots on these thread are not as stupid as you are, no wonder you are throwing insults all over the place, you have nothing in your brain.
You are new that's why you are just realizing the dubiousness cum ignorance of these people. Don't waste your time doing logical analysis with them, hit them real hard if you must engage them and show no mercy. They don't deserve any. They are just history manufacturers
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by BabaRamota1980: 5:44pm On Jun 03, 2018
davidnazee:
See mumu wey don get plenty heart attack lol.
Ijebu was under Benin Kingdom. Go read ur history books again.
First port in Nigeria was in Benin Kingdom.. Abi na Oyo or Yoruba lands the Portuguese pass enter West Africa?
Our navy always ferried our troops whenever they were going for war..
Our armies was the most organized and disciplined in West Africa.. even British confessed the Benin-British war was their hardest in West Africa.
Ijebu was never under Bini. Dont make me upload another embarassment for you here. Im still waiting for you to reflect upon that Biafran occupation first ...but force me to speedily bring a more damning evidence of your uncivilization here. grin
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by BabaRamota1980: 5:50pm On Jun 03, 2018
steveosaz:
Save your energy. We don't need to come together with these stupid, dubious and treacherous Yoruba people. My advocacy has always been mind your business while I mind mine. On this thread, Yoruba have claimed to be the progenitor of the Igala, Nupe, Itsekiri and others. Their ooni even said same about the Igbos.

Let it remain like this. If this stretches till eternity, the Edos would always be on ground to whup Yoruba ass.

These are people who have zero pride on their ancestry but would always kowtow to the Hausa Fulani at every instance. I was born and schooled in the North. It's shocking to see the sheer number of so called Yoruba people who have renounced Yoruba and have been assimilated into Hausa. The Yoruba in the north, many of them are lost to their hometowns e.g IBB. It is some of these things that the Yoruba are aware of that they have chosen to hide and cover up. No Hausa or Fulani man in this world would ever deny his tribe to claim another, same with Igbo but go to Zaria, Kano, Kaduna and many other northern cities and see Yoruba bastards everywhere denying their tribe and now claiming to be a member of the household of Uthman Dan Fodio.
The late Ooni of Ife, Sijuwade was practically a houseboy to the sultan of sokoto that even Fani Kayode had to speak out against it.

You are busy here fighting an unwinnable war with the very proud and illustrious Edo people meanwhile, Hausa/Fulani is right now recolonizing you. Fulani has married you as their wife and they have impregnated you, very soon, Yoruba would start giving birth to Fulani children. History is presently repeating itself and you lousy and loud e warriors are here directing your energies to a lost cause.

Should the Igbo leave, Hausa would turn you to their sex maid servant and that's why you people colluded with them to frustrate the Igbo Biafra agenda.
Reallyhuh You schooled in North and see Yoruba converting to Hausa and fulani? grin

But the prince of fulani prostrated and greet king of Yoruba in Oyo. Abi you no know? Would you like to see Prince Sanusi prostrating to greet Alaafin?

grin grin.

Edo and fabricated lies is like rice and chicken stew. Great combination!
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Obalufon: 6:01pm On Jun 03, 2018
samuk:
The first European travelers to reach Benin were Portuguese explorers in about 1485. A strong mercantile relationship developed, with the Edo trading tropical products such as ivory, peppers and palm oil with the Portuguese for European goods such as manila and guns. In the early 16th century, the Oba sent an ambassador to Lisbon, and the king of Portugal sent Christian missionaries to Benin City. Some residents of Benin City could still speak a pidgin Portuguese in the late 19th century.

The first English expedition to Benin was in 1553, and significant trading developed between England and Benin based on the export of ivory, palm oil and pepper. Visitors in the 16th and 17th centuries brought back to Europe tales of "the Great Benin", a fabulous city of noble buildings, ruled over by a powerful king. However, the Oba began to suspect Britain of larger colony designs and ceased communications with the British until the British Expedition in 1896-97 which resulted in a weakned Benin Empire.

Portuguese had a port in Lagos strategics point for their navigation and exploration before heaven seeing you mongrels.. claim of them helping you is false


lagoas was in contact with the Portuguese before you even before



A 17th century Dutch engraving from Olfert Dapper's Nauwkeurige Beschrijvinge der Afrikaansche Gewesten, published in Amsterdam in 1668 wrote:

The king's palace or court is a square, and is as large as the town of Haarlem and entirely surrounded by a special wall, like that which encircles the town. It is divided into many magnificent palaces, houses, and apartments of the courtiers, and comprises beautiful and long square galleries, about as large as the Exchange at Amsterdam, but one larger than another, resting on wooden pillars, from top to bottom covered with cast copper, on which are engraved the pictures of their war exploits and battles..."
—Olfert Dapper, Nauwkeurige Beschrijvinge der Afrikaansche Gewesten
Another Dutch traveller was David van Nyendael who in 1699 gave an eye-witness account.

The Legions of Benin


Copper sculpture from Benin showing the mix of weapons that co-existed side by side during the colonial era. Note firearms in the right hand of one figure, and traditional swords held by others.

The kingdom of Benin offers a snapshot of a relatively well-organized and sophisticated African polity in operation before the major European colonial interlude. Military operations relied on a well trained disciplined force. At the head of the host stood the Oba of Benin. The monarch of the realm served as supreme military commander. Beneath him were subordinate generalissimos, the Ezomo, the Iyase, and others who supervised a Metropolitan Regiment based in the capital, and a Royal Regiment made up of hand-picked warriors that also served as bodyguards. Benin's Queen Mother also retained her own regiment, the "Queen's Own." The Metropolitan and Royal regiments were relatively stable semi-permanent or permanent formations. The Village Regiments provided the bulk of the fighting force and were mobilized as needed, sending contingents of warriors upon the command of the king and his generals. Formations were broken down into sub-units under designated commanders. Foreign observers often commented favorably on Benin's discipline and organization as "better disciplined than any other Guinea nation", contrasting them with the slacker troops from the Gold Coast.



Until the introduction of guns in the 15th century, traditional weapons like the spear and bow held sway. Efforts were made to reorganize a local guild of blacksmiths in the 18th century to manufacture light firearms, but dependence on imports was still heavy. Before the coming of the gun, guilds of blacksmiths were charged with war production—–particularly swords and iron spearheads.



Benin's tactics were well organized, with preliminary plans weighed by the Oba and his sub-commanders. Logistics were organized to support missions from the usual porter forces, water transport via canoe, and requisitioning from localities the army passed through. Movement of troops via canoes was critically important in the lagoons, creeks and rivers of the Niger Delta, a key area of Benin's domination. Tactics in the field seem to have evolved over time. While the head-on clash was well known, documentation from the 18th century shows greater emphasis on avoiding continuous battle lines, and more effort to encircle an enemy (ifianyako).

Fortifications were important in the region and numerous military campaigns fought by Benin's soldiers revolved around sieges. As noted above, Benin's military earthworks are the largest of such structures in the world, and Benin's rivals also built extensively. Barring a successful assault, most sieges were resolved by a strategy of attrition, slowly cutting off and starving out the enemy fortification until it capitulated. On occasion however, European mercenaries were called on to aid with these sieges. In 1603–04 for example, European cannon helped batter and destroy the gates of a town near present-day Lagos, allowing 10,000 warriors of Benin to enter and conquer it. In payment the Europeans received one woman captive each and bundles of pepper. The example of Benin shows the genius of indigenous military systems, but also the role outside influences and new technologies brought to bear. This is a normal pattern among many nations and was to be reflected across Africa as the 19th century dawned.





The city and empire of Benin declined after 1700. By this time, European activity in the area, most notably through the Trans-Atlantic slave-trade, resulted in major disruptive repercussions. However, Benin's power was revived in the 19th century with the development of the trade in palm oil and textiles. To preserve Benin's independence, bit by bit the Oba banned the export of goods from Benin, until the trade was exclusively in palm oil.

Benin resisted signing a protectorate treaty with Britain through most of the 1880s and 1890s. However, after Benin discovered Britain's true intentions, eight unknowing British representatives, who came to visit Benin were killed. As a result a Punitive Expedition was launched in 1897. The British force, under the command of Admiral Sir Harry Rawson, razed and burned the city, destroying much of the country's treasured art and dispersing nearly all that remained. The stolen portrait figures, busts, and groups created in iron, carved ivory, and especially in brass (conventionally called the "Benin Bronzes"wink are now displayed in museums around the world.
Lagos was in contact with Portuguese by Prince Henry the Navigator before benin , Portuguese heard of benin from the itskeiris i doubt if João Afonso de Aveiromade made it to benin

Portuguese had a port in Lagos " named lagos by them" strategic point for their navigation and exploration i doubt if they would assist you mongrels in destroying Lagos
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by MetaPhysical: 6:09pm On Jun 03, 2018
Obalufon:
Lagos was in contact with Portuguese by Prince Henry the Navigator before benin , Portuguese heard of benin from the itskeiris i doubt if João Afonso de Aveiromade made it to benin
Very true!

Portuguese had trading posts in Wydah and Aworis were already exchanging trades with them through the Badagry creeks.
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Obalufon: 6:12pm On Jun 03, 2018
MetaPhysical:
Very true!

Portuguese had trading posts in Wydah and Aworis were already exchanging trades with them through the Badagry creeks.
Lagos waters
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by samuk: 6:14pm On Jun 03, 2018
Obalufon:
Lagos was in contact with Portuguese by Prince Henry the Navigator before benin , Portuguese heard of benin from the itskeiris i doubt if João Afonso de Aveiromade made it to benin

ouch you said 14 century ...Christopher Columbus was born Before or after 31 October 1451.. Europe made contact with Africa in the 1500s please and Benin around 1550


Vasco da Gama was born on1460 or 1469
Sines, Alentejo, Kingdom of Portugal
You are all over the place and unable to make up your mind. You manufacture your version of history on the go.

You said European didn't get to Africa till 1500, when I pointed you to the fact that they were already in Benin by 1485, you are now saying they got to Lagos before Benin, how would you know that if you didn't even know when Europeans first arrived Africa. When European got to Lagos, Lagos was under and part of Benin Kingdom, itsekiri was part of Benin Kingdom with Benin city as capital.
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by ib0221: 6:17pm On Jun 03, 2018
steveosaz:
Respect they say is reciprocal. You cannot demand respect from me when you haven't extended such courtesy. Not to even talk of a Yoruba for that matter.
I was taught not to demand respect from anyone except from myself. Therefore, I couldn't have demanded it from you.
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by MetaPhysical: 6:18pm On Jun 03, 2018
BabaRamota1980:
Reallyhuh You schooled in North and see Yoruba converting to Hausa and fulani? grin

But the prince of fulani prostrated and greet king of Yoruba in Oyo. Abi you no know? Would you like to see Prince Sanusi prostrating to greet Alaafin?

grin grin.

Edo and fabricated lies is like rice and chicken stew. Great combination!
Dont ask, show him.

Here is picture of Yorubas converting to Fulani. This was witnessed by an Edo, Steveosaz who was a student in the North.

Shikena!

Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by BabaRamota1980: 6:21pm On Jun 03, 2018
MetaPhysical:
Dont ask, show him.

Here is picture of Yorubas converting to Fulani. This was witnessed by an Edo, Steveosaz who was a student in the North.

Shikena!
grin grin grin
This is embarassment to the conquered Umubiafrans.
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by samuk: 6:21pm On Jun 03, 2018
steveosaz:
You are new that's why you are just realizing the dubiousness cum ignorance of these people. Don't waste your time doing logical analysis with them, hit them real hard if you must engage them and show no mercy. They don't deserve any. They are just history manufacturers
Honestly you guys are really trying putting up with people like these. They lack knowledge of history and refuse to learn. My little sympathy for them is because I know they have disjointed history, you have someone from Ijebu or Ekiti trying to write about Oyo history and they start contradicting themselves.
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by MetaPhysical: 6:29pm On Jun 03, 2018
samuk:
You are all over the place and unable to make up your mind. You manufacture your version of history on the go.

You said European didn't get to Africa till 1500, when I pointed you to the fact that they were already in Benin by 1485, you are now saying they got to Lagos before Benin, how would you know that if you didn't even know when Europeans first arrived Africa. When European got to Lagos, Lagos was under and part of Benin Kingdom, itsekiri was part of Benin Kingdom with Benin city as capital.
Benin did not settle in Lagos untill 1600s. Lagos was never part of Benin. Benin had a throne in Lagos to protect against invasions from Dahomey.

Benin did not fight the owners of Lagos, they were invited to secure their farms and lands against invasions from Dahomey. If the original invitation to Oyo had been honored Oyo would be the throne, not Benin.
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Obalufon: 6:30pm On Jun 03, 2018
samuk:
You are all over the place and unable to make up your mind. You manufacture your version of history on the go.

You said European didn't get to Africa till 1500, when I pointed you to the fact that they were already in Benin by 1485, you are now saying they got to Lagos before Benin, how would you know that if you didn't even know when Europeans first arrived Africa. When European got to Lagos, Lagos was under and part of Benin Kingdom, itsekiri was part of Benin Kingdom with Benin city as capital.
15 century is 1400 1500 they explore hinterland ,they were navigating the coastal region the late 15 century 1400 .before exploring the hinterland after they had already circum navigated Africa their main expectoration was to trade with indian if they had contacted the benin in 1484 so you were ruling Lagos 1400..when the first lagos king was in 1600 right ..you are a clone ..
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by MetaPhysical: 6:41pm On Jun 03, 2018
Hey babaramota, im looking something up in the library. whats name of that ogiso whose queen gave pussy to chiefs to change what oracle said?
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by KingSango(m): 6:42pm On Jun 03, 2018
Olu317:
Yeah, I know that , sango was made god of thunder because of the way, he used fire and thunder to persecute war but not the sango that is known as Irunmole. This was what I am trying to tell that guy called Kingsango that assumed that Sango as king was the same sango as Irunmole. And that everything about Alaafin is the beginning and end of yorubas




Cheers
No, it wasn't me that compared Sango to Jakuta, the God of thunder. the Ife created Jakuta is limited to only lightning and thunder. Sango is the God of fire, lightning and thunder. As I've said there are 3 Sangos, The Alaafin of Oyo, The High Priest Sango Kuso, and the Irunmole Sango the God of fire. The Irunmole descended and incarnated the son of Oranmiyan and he became Alaafin. It was only after his death was he defied as Sango. Meaning that the elders understood that God had descended upon Earth in their King. All these nasty stories yall have about Sango are not true. Yorubas were wicked and Sango had to judge them harshly sometimes, this lead to Sango being hated by many Yorubas. Especially those who were engaged in twin sacrifice which is child sacrifice. Even some Yorubas were engaging in other wicked practices that the Alaafin Sango put an end too. People hate reformers especially moral reformers like Sango. Not all Afrikan people want to live morally and that include some Yorubas, hell Bobrisky is Yoruba. Do you think Bobrisky loves Sango? grin Sango would have judged him harshly for his wicked behavior.


Ase

Love Sango
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by BabaRamota1980: 6:47pm On Jun 03, 2018
MetaPhysical:
Hey babaramota, im looking something up in the library. whats name of that ogiso whose queen gave pussy to chiefs to change what oracle said?
hhhemm, i cant recall right away. Hold on...

Hey Edos...umubiafrans..., grin
Whats Ekaladheran popsy's name? The deranged Ogiso that killed his son so he can be blessed with more.
What's his name? Ogiso what??
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Obalufon: 6:49pm On Jun 03, 2018
MetaPhysical:
Benin did not settle in Lagos untill 1600s. Lagos was never part of Benin. Benin had a throne in Lagos to protect against invasions from Dahomey.

Benin did not fight the owners of Lagos, they were invited to secure their farms and lands against invasions from Dahomey. If the original invitation to Oyo had been honored Oyo would be the throne, not Benin.
Benin was on a trading expedition to Ghana as i read they were attacked by the aworis for stepping foot on their soil the expendition was halted they turned back to benin after getting to Benin they narrated the story to oba benin , oba sent his son ado a renown warrior with his elite soldier to attack Lagos as reprisal for the insult on him when the aworis cited ado they knew he was a prince and ife from his regalia they offer to make ado the king of lagos being a lineage of oduduwa ..ado could spaek yoruba fluently
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by samuk: 6:51pm On Jun 03, 2018
Obalufon:
15 century is 1400 1500 they explore hinterland ,they were navigating the coastal region the late 15 century 1400 .before exploring the hinterland after they had already circum navigated Africa their main expectoration was to trade with indian if they had contacted the benin in 1484 so you were ruling Lagos 1400..when the first lagos king was in 1600 right ..you are a clone ..
You are the fool and confused one here, go and read your post again. You wrote 1500 and not 15th century, I was the one that wrote 1400s and you disputed it. Who was the king the European wrote about when they got to Lagos, provide international sources not the one written by fellow ignoramus like you.
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by davidnazee: 6:57pm On Jun 03, 2018
Obalufon:
15 century is 1400 1500 they explore hinterland ,they were navigating the coastal region the late 15 century 1400 .before exploring the hinterland after they had already circum navigated Africa their main expectoration was to trade with indian if they had contacted the benin in 1484 so you were ruling Lagos 1400..when the first lagos king was in 1600 right ..you are a clone ..
If the Portuguese got to Lagos before Benin but yet when they got to Benin they documented Benin was ruling everywhere, from Niger to Lagos.. so probably it’s the Aworis you say they Portuguese met that told them Benin was the lord.
Your brain must be scratching you.
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by samuk: 6:58pm On Jun 03, 2018
MetaPhysical:
Benin did not settle in Lagos untill 1600s. Lagos was never part of Benin. Benin had a throne in Lagos to protect against invasions from Dahomey.

Benin did not fight the owners of Lagos, they were invited to secure their farms and lands against invasions from Dahomey. If the original invitation to Oyo had been honored Oyo would be the throne, not Benin.
So you agreed that Lagos was a Benin colony and protectorate with a throne, just as Nigeria later became British colony and protectorate.
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Obalufon: 6:59pm On Jun 03, 2018
samuk:
You are the fool and confused one here, go and read your post again. You wrote 1500 and not 15th century, I was the one that wrote 1400s and you disputed it. Who was the king the European wrote about when they got to Lagos, provide international sources not the one written by fellow ignoramus like you.
you were trading in pepper what year ...you were the last to be contacted stop spurting rubbish bight of Benin is different from benin city fool the Portuguese were in contact with Lagos Badagry years before stepping foot on benin soil they get to know about benin from the itsekiri..hinter land was in the 1500

trading started in the 1500 at it peak 1550
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by davidnazee: 7:06pm On Jun 03, 2018
Obalufon:
Lagos was in contact with Portuguese by Prince Henry the Navigator before benin , Portuguese heard of benin from the itskeiris i doubt if João Afonso de Aveiromade made it to benin

Portuguese had a port in Lagos " named lagos by them" strategic point for their navigation and exploration i doubt if they would assist you mongrels in destroying Lagos
I will assume that you and your fellows here are representing the Yoruba race and as such I feel sorry for Yoruba people. A people so cowardly and deluded with no pride trying to distort history just to feel good.
Other tribes read the same documents we read and also knows African history.. they will be laughing at you yorubas at your desperate attempt to change what’s documented down. If you like tell your children to write in exams that Portuguese got to Lagos before Benin, Na failure and repeat go be their portion lol.

As I said earlier, your future generations will come to read history as it was documented, “Great Benin conquered and rule vast parts of Yoruba lands”.. History and documents awaits them.
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by samuk: 7:09pm On Jun 03, 2018
Obalufon:
you were trading in pepper what year ...you were the last to be contacted stop spurting rubbish bight of Benin is different from benin city fool the Portuguese were in contact with Lagos Badagry years before stepping foot on benin soil they get to know about benin from the itsekiri..hinter land was in the 1500
Hopefully you will eventually lean something today, the bight of Benin is a body of water that was named after Benin for her greatness just the way Victoria falls and Victoria island was named after queen Victoria of England.
You are already contradicting your compatriot Metaphisical on the history of Lagos just like I stated in my earlier post, you all come out of your ethnic enclaves in the name of one Yoruba and start distorting other peoples history, you guys have nothing to do with Lagos but trying to rewrite her history and start contradicting yourself in a show of shame, do even have shame?
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by davidnazee: 7:11pm On Jun 03, 2018
Obalufon:
you were trading in pepper what year ...you were the last to be contacted stop spurting rubbish bight of Benin is different from benin city fool the Portuguese were in contact with Lagos Badagry years before stepping foot on benin soil they get to know about benin from the itsekiri..hinter land was in the 1500

trading started in the 1500 at it peak 1550
Mugu mugu.. where did the name Bight of Benin come from? Oh so the name Bight of Benin existed before Benin was discovered by the Europeans?
Chai!! If you mugus are Yoruba champions then we Edos are a superior race to you.
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by MetaPhysical: 7:14pm On Jun 03, 2018
Obalufon:
Benin was on a trading expedition to Ghana as i read they were attacked by the aworis for stepping foot on their soil the discoloration was halted they turned back to benin after getting to Benin they narrated the story to oba benin , oba sent his son ado a renown warrior with his elite soldier to attack Lagos as reprisal for the insult on him when the aworis cited ado they knew he was a prince and ife from his regalia they offer to make ado the king of lagos being a lineage of oduduwa ..ado could spaek yoruba fluently
Aworis dont fight. Do you know what is unique about Yorubas? Every war we fought we know the principals and the given name of the war. If we cant find in archives name of a war or names of the principals then that war did not happen.

There is no record of a war featuring Awori principals. They occupy western part of Ogun all the way to Dahomey and down to Badagry creeks. Yet it was Egba that fought Dahomey over Awori territory. The Aworis themselves did not fight. Their covenant is priesthood, so they abstain from war.

Benin presence in Lagos is for defense. In the war of Agidingbi, the first Kosoko vs Beecroft war, the Aworis vacated their palaces and left town. In the second war of Ahoyaya, they left town again. After war they returned. Thats what Benin signed up for, to defend Lagos in contract for trade benefits on the coast.

King of Lagos domain covers only Lagos Island.

Ikoyi, Lekki, VI, Atlantic City, Apapa, Ijora, Iganmu, all of Mainland....all belong to the Aworis.

In terms of land ownership, the land the palace is built on is the only one Oba of Lagos can claim to his pedigree. He has no other land anywhere.

Yoruba scholars intimidated oral authorities to yield to them the custody and rights of historical accounts and reviews. Unfortunately, except for few, they failed in their task to shield the history from tainted injections from more conservative historians competing to displace our superiority.
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by KingSango(m): 7:16pm On Jun 03, 2018
davidnazee:
I will assume that you and your fellows here are representing the Yoruba race and as such I feel sorry for Yoruba people. A people so cowardly and deluded with no pride trying to distort history just to feel good.
Other tribes read the same documents we read and also knows African history.. they will be laughing at you yorubas at your desperate attempt to change what’s documented down. If you like tell your children to write in exams that Portuguese got to Lagos before Benin, Na failure and repeat go be their portion lol.

As I said earlier, your future generations will come to read history as it was documented, “Great Benin conquered and rule vast parts of Yoruba lands”.. History and documents awaits them.
What is the point of this?

Don't you know that Sango is Afrika's greatest King? Sango ruled from Nigeria all the way to Senegal. Sure the original Oyo shown on maps is much smaller but there were council of Kings like today back then and Sango ruled by confluence. Yoruba traders were in Benin, Republic, Togo, Ghana, Cote' ldovire, Liberia, Sierra Leone, Guinea, all the way to Senegal. Yall present day Nigerians arguing over North and South, ethnic group to ethnic group while the rest of West Afrika looks to you as the Giant of Afrika yet you act like pygmies. There is no beef between the Alaafin and the Emir of Kano. None. How come subjects are beefing? The Oba of Benin isn't fighting with the Alaafin. How come you guys are in here promoting this anti-socialism? angry Nigeria needs wide awake youths, so wake the hell up.

Ase

Love Sango
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by MetaPhysical: 7:16pm On Jun 03, 2018
samuk:
So you agreed that Lagos was a Benin colony and protectorate with a throne, just as Nigeria later became British colony and protectorate.
Read my last comment.
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by davidnazee: 7:20pm On Jun 03, 2018
BabaRamota1980:
hhhemm, i cant recall right away. Hold on...

Hey Edos...umubiafrans..., grin
Whats Ekaladheran popsy's name? The deranged Ogiso that killed his son so he can be blessed with more.
What's his name? Ogiso what??
Do you know how the Yoruba Deji of Akure was beheaded by the Benin police in the mid 18th century? I will tell you because I like telling you things u don’t know.

After the Deji messed up, Benin special police (equivalent of SARS now) was dispatched to bring his head.. Benin didn’t have to fight a war to execute the Deji, yorubas was too weak and in fear of mighty Benin.. our police simply walked into Deji palace dragged him out into the street and took of his head while the Yorubas were just looking and wailing..
This account is stored in historical archives waiting for your future generations to read and judge who is master and who is the conquered..
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by MetaPhysical: 7:21pm On Jun 03, 2018
davidnazee:
I will assume that you and your fellows here are representing the Yoruba race and as such I feel sorry for Yoruba people. A people so cowardly and deluded with no pride trying to distort history just to feel good.
Other tribes read the same documents we read and also knows African history.. they will be laughing at you yorubas at your desperate attempt to change what’s documented down. If you like tell your children to write in exams that Portuguese got to Lagos before Benin, Na failure and repeat go be their portion lol.

As I said earlier, your future generations will come to read history as it was documented, “Great Benin conquered and rule vast parts of Yoruba lands”.. History and documents awaits them.
Do you mind naming the wars of conquest so we can check it up and be educated?

Every war has a name. What are names of some of these wars, if you are truthful?
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by BabaRamota1980: 7:25pm On Jun 03, 2018
davidnazee:
Do you know how the Yoruba Deji of Akure was beheaded by the Benin police in the mid 18th century? I will tell you because I like telling you things u don’t know.

After the Deji messed up, Benin special police (equivalent of SARS now) was dispatched to bring his head.. Benin didn’t have to fight a war to execute the Deji, yorubas was too weak and in fear of mighty Benin.. our police simply walked into Deji palace dragged him out into the street and took of his head while the Yorubas were just looking and wailing..
This account is stored in historical archives waiting for your future generations to read and judge who is master and who is the conquered..
I ask for name of Ekaladheran's deranged popsy's name, not for SARS. grin grin.

Whats name of your ogiso whose chiefs bleeped his queen? grin grin
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by MetaPhysical: 7:27pm On Jun 03, 2018
BabaRamota1980:
I ask for name of Ekaladheran's deranged popsy's name, not for SARS. grin grin.

Whats name of your ogiso whose chiefs bleeped his queen? grin grin
I think his name was Ewedo. Correct?
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by davidnazee: 7:31pm On Jun 03, 2018
BabaRamota1980:
I ask for name of Ekaladheran's deranged popsy's name, not for SARS. grin grin.

Whats name of your ogiso whose chiefs bleeped his queen? grin grin
If you want the name of Ekhaladeran’s father it is Ogiso Owodo.. now type your deranged story let me see and I will counter it with another true accounts of the beheading of your Yoruba Ewi in Ekiti..
my true accounts versus your deranged and frustrated feel good stories..
I’m gonna torture you and your fellow Yorubas till u start avoiding me like ur brother marcof is running from me..
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