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Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Obalufon:
davidnazee:
Mugu mugu.. where did the name Bight of Benin come from? Oh so the name Bight of Benin existed before Benin was discovered by the Europeans?
Chai!! If you mugus are Yoruba champions then we Edos are a superior race to you.
after they circum navigated the whole African bight of benin was born from source from Portuguese explorer record account giving by Portuguese explorer even dahomey togo ghana bony were called bight of benin . because the map of africa was created from Portuguese source and the first hinter land contact Portuguese will have is with the benin kingdom creating the map they name the region bight of benin
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by BabaRamota1980: 7:36pm On Jun 03, 2018
MetaPhysical:
I think his name was Ewedo. Correct?
grin grin
Ewedo ko, Ewedu ni!

Ogiso Owodo. grin

Everything na do do do. Yoruba go do Edo. grin
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Obalufon: 7:39pm On Jun 03, 2018
samuk:
You are all over the place and unable to make up your mind. You manufacture your version of history on the go.

You said European didn't get to Africa till 1500, when I pointed you to the fact that they were already in Benin by 1485, you are now saying they got to Lagos before Benin, how would you know that if you didn't even know when Europeans first arrived Africa. When European got to Lagos, Lagos was under and part of Benin Kingdom, itsekiri was part of Benin Kingdom with Benin city as capital.
i don't need to look up the date i said 1500s contact with African contact benin 1550..you said 1400s after you said 1485..

but in the late 1400 they were navigating the Africa coast
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by BabaRamota1980: 7:43pm On Jun 03, 2018
davidnazee:
If you want the name of Ekhaladeran’s father it is Ogiso Owodo.. now type your deranged story let me see and I will counter it with another true accounts of the beheading of your Yoruba Ewi in Ekiti..
my true accounts versus your deranged and frustrated feel good stories..
I’m gonna torture you and your fellow Yorubas till u start avoiding me like ur brother marcof is running from me..
Let me warn you ahead...im going to fact check the fabrication you are trying to type.

Dont think we missed your falsehood when your bother presented the King Owa in Ika as a King of Yorubaland. I was busy and dindt havevtime to respond and puncture holes in his fabulous story and picture.


So be warned...i have all the time today to spend fact checking. grin

Lets hear what you have.....bring it.
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by anibirelawal(m): 7:43pm On Jun 03, 2018
BabaRamota1980:
I ask for name of Ekaladheran's deranged popsy's name, not for SARS. grin grin.

Whats name of your ogiso whose chiefs bleeped his queen? grin grin
BabaRamota, you are so intelligent, i have been following this thread & others, i must confess am amaze with the way you counter attacks their half baked stories with good detailing. Well done sir!

I doff my hat for you.
#RESPECTS.
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by samuk: 7:44pm On Jun 03, 2018
Obalufon:
after they circum navigated the whole African bight of benin was born from source from Portuguese explorer record accounting giving by Portuguese explorer even dahomey togo ghana bony was called bight of benin . because the map of africa was created from Portuguese source and the first hinter land contact Portuguese will have is with the benin kingdom creating the map they name the region gulf of benin
I told you, you are all over the thread making up stories, first you said Benin was the last place to be contacted by the Europeans, now you claimed Benin was the first hinter land kingdom to be contacted, which is which, I hope you are not like this in real life.
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by BabaRamota1980: 7:50pm On Jun 03, 2018
anibirelawal:
BabaRamota, you are so intelligent, i have been following this thread & others, i must confess am amaze with the way you counter attacks their half baked stories with good detailing. Well done sir!

I doff my hat for you.
#RESPECTS.
Thank you for the recognition boss!

I lead with traps...and wait for them to walk in. Then i whack their head! grin
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by anibirelawal(m): 7:56pm On Jun 03, 2018
BabaRamota1980:
Thank you for the recognition boss!

I lead with traps...and wait for them to walk in. Then i whack their head! grin
Lol, that is an 'Ambush' attacks. am loving this, please give them some more. grin

God bless u as u dey roll out dis info.
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by davidnazee: 8:05pm On Jun 03, 2018
Obalufon:
after they circum navigated the whole African bight of benin was born from source from Portuguese explorer record accounting giving by Portuguese explorer even dahomey togo ghana bony was called bight of benin . because the map of africa was created from Portuguese source and the first hinter land contact Portuguese will have is with the benin kingdom creating the map they name the region gulf of benin
I'm thinking you secretly yearn for knowledge so I will freely educate you a little on this before I go back to tormenting you.

Prior to visiting Western Africa the Europeans had been in contact with North Africans and Arabs and it was from them they heard about a people/culture (and great kingdoms) existing in tropical (rain forest) West Africa. The Portuguese explorers got permission from their King to navigate and chart the unknown African region. So starting from North Africa coast the explorers sailed along the coastal line of Africa to the West and finally they arrived at Benin Kingdom. Benin Kingdom was the first place they landed in the area now known as Nigeria. and FYI trading didnt immediately begin when they landed. When they came they met the Itsekiris who were living closest to where their ship docked, and as normal with every visit to a new place they inquired who their ruler was.. The Itsekiris directed them to their capital Benin City where the great King resides.. and the rest is history.
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by KingSango(m): 8:18pm On Jun 03, 2018
davidnazee:
I'm thinking you secretly yearn for knowledge so I will freely educate you a little on this before I go back to tormenting you.

Prior to visiting Western Africa the Europeans had been in contact with North Africans and Arabs and it was from them they heard about a people/culture (and great kingdoms) existing in tropical (rain forest) West Africa. The Portuguese explorers got permission from their King to navigate and chart the unknown African region. So starting from North Africa coast the explorers sailed along the coastal line of Africa to the West and finally they arrived at Benin Kingdom. Benin Kingdom was the first place they landed in the area now known as Nigeria. and FYI trading didnt immediately begin when they landed. When they came they met the Itsekiris who were living closest to where their ship docked, and as normal with every visit to a new place they inquired who their ruler was.. The Itsekiris directed them to their capital Benin City where the great King resides.. and the rest is history.
The ruler of Itsekiris not Oyo and from what I gather the Benin King wasn't ruler of Ife either. So what's your point?
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by davidnazee: 8:21pm On Jun 03, 2018
KingSango:
The ruler of Itsekiris not Oyo and from what I gather the Benin King wasn't ruler of Ife either. So what's your point?
King Sango what are you talking about? Did I say ruler of Ife when the Europeans came was the Oba of Benin? The ruler of the Itsekiris was the Oba of Benin and till today He still is the Overlord in that region.
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Obalufon: 8:21pm On Jun 03, 2018
davidnazee:
I'm thinking you secretly yearn for knowledge so I will freely educate you a little on this before I go back to tormenting you.

Prior to visiting Western Africa the Europeans had been in contact with North Africans and Arabs and it was from them they heard about a people/culture (and great kingdoms) existing in tropical (rain forest) West Africa. The Portuguese explorers got permission from their King to navigate and chart the unknown African region. So starting from North Africa coast the explorers sailed along the coastal line of Africa to the West and finally they arrived at Benin Kingdom. Benin Kingdom was the first place they landed in the area now known as Nigeria. and FYI trading didnt immediately begin when they landed. When they came they met the Itsekiris who were living closest to where their ship docked, and as normal with every visit to a new place they inquired who their ruler was.. The Itsekiris directed them to their capital Benin City where the great King resides.. and the rest is history.
stop there..you are derailing MR big mouth ..Arabs ...
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by davidnazee: 8:22pm On Jun 03, 2018
anibirelawal:
Lol, that is an 'Ambush' attacks. am loving this, please give them some more. grin

God bless u as u dey roll out dis info.
another deranged Yoruba man.. welcome to the forum, I hope u have your own deranged points to give oo.
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Obalufon: 8:22pm On Jun 03, 2018
davidnazee:
I'm thinking you secretly yearn for knowledge so I will freely educate you a little on this before I go back to tormenting you.

Prior to visiting Western Africa the Europeans had been in contact with North Africans and Arabs and it was from them they heard about a people/culture (and great kingdoms) existing in tropical (rain forest) West Africa. The Portuguese explorers got permission from their King to navigate and chart the unknown African region. So starting from North Africa coast the explorers sailed along the coastal line of Africa to the West and finally they arrived at Benin Kingdom. Benin Kingdom was the first place they landed in the area now known as Nigeria. and FYI trading didnt immediately begin when they landed. When they came they met the Itsekiris who were living closest to where their ship docked, and as normal with every visit to a new place they inquired who their ruler was.. The Itsekiris directed them to their capital Benin City where the great King resides.. and the rest is history.
stop there..you are derailing MR big mouth ..Arabs ...
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Nobody: 8:22pm On Jun 03, 2018
KingSango:
No, it wasn't me that compared Sango to Jakuta, the God of thunder. the Ife created Jakuta is limited to only lightning and thunder. Sango is the God of fire, lightning and thunder. As I've said there are 3 Sangos, The Alaafin of Oyo, The High Priest Sango Kuso, and the Irunmole Sango the God of fire. The Irunmole descended and incarnated the son of Oranmiyan and he became Alaafin. It was only after his death was he defied as Sango. Meaning that the elders understood that God had descended upon Earth in their King. All these nasty stories yall have about Sango are not true. Yorubas were wicked and Sango had to judge them harshly sometimes, this lead to Sango being hated by many Yorubas. Especially those who were engaged in twin sacrifice which is child sacrifice. Even some Yorubas were engaging in other wicked practices that the Alaafin Sango put an end too. People hate reformers especially moral reformers like Sango. Not all Afrikan people want to live morally and that include some Yorubas, hell Bobrisky is Yoruba. Do you think Bobrisky loves Sango? grin Sango would have judged him harshly for his wicked behavior.


Ase

Love Sango
Very wrong information.

Oramfe was & is still Ife’s god of fire, thunder and lightening. Ife did not worship Sango or recognize him as sugch until contacts with immigrants from Oyo dependent towns under Ilorin attack.
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Obalufon: 8:26pm On Jun 03, 2018
[quote author=davidnazee post=68150617]another deranged Yoruba man.. welcome to the forum, I hope u have your own deranged points to give oo.[/quo


you need to get your head out of your ass mr david..you are going nut
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Obalufon: 8:26pm On Jun 03, 2018
you need to get your head out of your ass mr david..you are going nut
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by KingSango(m): 8:28pm On Jun 03, 2018
davidnazee:
King Sango what are you talking about? Did I say ruler of Ife when the Europeans came was the Oba of Benin? The ruler of the Itsekiris was the Oba of Benin and till today He still is the Overlord in that region.
As long as you are talking Oba of Benin ruling over Itsekiris not Oyo and Ife. grin


Small groups can come under the rulership of another more powerful group, what's the harm in this? There was no slavery like chattel slavery European inflicted upon Afrikans in the West. What are you guys beefing about? Ancient Nigerian history that none of you lived and none of your grandparents. grin All this stuff is so long, long, long ago. Who cares? Benin is a great empire yet so is Oyo, Dahomey and Fulani. I don't get the back and forth, that's woman behavior yet I don't see the women partaking in such wasteful use of energy only men. grin

Ase

Love Sango
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Olu317(m):
davidnazee:
If the Portuguese got to Lagos before Benin but yet when they got to Benin they documented Benin was ruling everywhere, from Niger to Lagos.. so probably it’s the Aworis you say they Portuguese met that told them Benin was the lord.
Your brain must be scratching you.
Yes,Portuguese got to Lagos around 1470s and they met Aworis grin. And Portuguese got to Edo around 1485 . Stop feeling sorry for yourself. Bloody set of Edo liars.
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by davidnazee: 8:42pm On Jun 03, 2018
KingSango:
As long as you are talking Oba of Benin ruling over Itsekiris not Oyo and Ife. grin


Small groups can come under the rulership of another more powerful group, what's the harm in this? There was no slavery like chattel slavery European inflicted upon Afrikans in the West. What are you guys beefing about? Ancient Nigerian history that none of you lived and none of your grandparents. grin All this stuff is so long, long, long ago. Who cares? Benin is a great empire yet so is Oyo, Dahomey and Fulani. I don't get the back and forth, that's woman behavior yet I don't see the women partaking in such wasteful use of energy only men. grin

Ase

Love Sango
It’s your Yoruba brethrens that refuse to acknowledge that Benin was a great and mighty Empire.. Benin didn’t rule over Ife, nor did it rule over Oyo. But Benin ruled over most of Eastern Yoruba and shared boundaries with Oyo kingdom.. Benin also saw the birth of Oyo and the end too.. Benin was the only independent African kingdom till the end of the 19th century when it was subdued by the British forces..
As for slavery Benin didn’t engage in slavery but Oyo was the master of slavery selling almost all Yorubas in its territory into slavery..
Benin was a great Kingdom that survived time while others fell it stood..
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by anibirelawal(m): 8:45pm On Jun 03, 2018
davidnazee:
another Yoruba man.. welcome to the forum, I hope u have your own points to give oo.
LOADING grin
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Olu317(m): 8:46pm On Jun 03, 2018
angry
Y0ruba:
Very wrong information.

Oramfe was & is still Ife’s god of fire, thunder and lightening. Ife did not worship Sango or recognize him as sugch until contacts with immigrants from Oyo dependent towns under Ilorin attack.
grin grin grin

Greetings to you dear bro
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Olu317(m): 8:47pm On Jun 03, 2018
[quote author=anibirelawal post=68151201]grin cheesy grin
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by KingSango(m): 8:48pm On Jun 03, 2018
davidnazee:
It’s your Yoruba brethrens that refuse to acknowledge that Benin was a great and mighty Empire.. Benin didn’t rule over Ife, nor did it rule over Oyo. But Benin ruled over most of Eastern Yoruba and shared boundaries with Oyo kingdom.. Benin also saw the birth of Oyo and the end too.. Benin was the only independent African kingdom till the end of the 19th century when it was subdued by the British forces..
As for slavery Benin didn’t engage in slavery but Oyo was the master of slavery selling almost all Yorubas in its territory into slavery..
Benin was a great Kingdom that survived time while others fell it stood..
Oyo only sold captured warriors into slavery from Dahomey. It was Dahomey that raided the corridor that exists between Oyo state and the nation of Benin Repulic where lies Yorubas there persecuted by Dahomey/Fon slave raiders. Yorubas were sold by Dahomey not Oyo. It was a practice to enslave captured warriors so they just sold them to Europeans. Oyo Empire didn't end it still exists yet like Benin Empire both came under the tyranny of British. Let's not forget who our real enemies are in the real sense. You guys make too much of old rivalries that the Nigerian Independence put an end too! Stop digging up old bones.

Ase

Love Sango
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Olu317(m): 8:50pm On Jun 03, 2018
KingSango:
As long as you are talking Oba of Benin ruling over Itsekiris not Oyo and Ife. grin


Small groups can come under the rulership of another more powerful group, what's the harm in this? There was no slavery like chattel slavery European inflicted upon Afrikans in the West. What are you guys beefing about? Ancient Nigerian history that none of you lived and none of your grandparents. grin All this stuff is so long, long, long ago. Who cares? Benin is a great empire yet so is Oyo, Dahomey and Fulani. I don't get the back and forth, that's woman behavior yet I don't see the women partaking in such wasteful use of energy only men. grin

Ase

Love Sango
No beefing but correcting falsehood from Edos....Period
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Olu317(m): 8:51pm On Jun 03, 2018
KingSango:
Oyo only sold captured warriors into slavery from Dahomey. It was Dahomey that raided the corridor that exists between Oyo state and the nation of Benin Repulic where lies Yorubas there persecuted by Dahomey/Fon slave raiders. Yorubas were sold by Dahomey not Oyo. It was a practice to enslave captured warriors so they just sold them to Europeans. Oyo Empire didn't end it still exists yet like Benin Empire both came under the tyranny of British. Let's not forget who our real enemies are in the real sense. You guys make too much of old rivalries that the Nigerian Independence put an end too! Stop digging up old bones.

Ase

Love Sango
Correct
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by KingSango(m): 8:51pm On Jun 03, 2018
Olu317:
No beefing but correcting falsehood from Edos....Period
Lies cause damage. Yet in trying to undo the lies you may be feeding into negativity that's the trap. People who need lies to keep them alive are weak people, if that is the case and not some confused Edo historian. grin
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Olu317(m): 8:56pm On Jun 03, 2018
samuk:
I told you, you are all over the thread making up stories, first you said Benin was the last place to be contacted by the Europeans, now you claimed Benin was the first hinter land kingdom to be contacted, which is which, I hope you are not like this in real life.
Mr. what are you even informing on? Have you no knowledge that Bini was landlocked? The Itsekiri was the link way between Bini and Portuguese, simply because of pepper before ivory, sculputure work etc....
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Obalufon: 9:04pm On Jun 03, 2018
Olu317:
Mr. what are you even informing on? Have you no knowledge that Bini was landlocked? The Itsekiri was the link way between Bini and Portuguese, simply because of pepper before ivory, sculputure work etc....
these fools even claimed contact with the arabs yet nothing to show for it .
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Olu317(m): 9:06pm On Jun 03, 2018
samuk:
Honestly you guys are really trying putting up with people like these. They lack knowledge of history and refuse to learn. My little sympathy for them is because I know they have disjointed history, you have someone from Ijebu or Ekiti trying to write about Oyo history and they start contradicting themselves.
Who is on contradictory lane if not you Edo people? You claimed Oba means ‘shiny' in Edo but Omo nor Oba said Oranmiyan imported the word from Yoruba land . Some of you claim ,there are no Yoruba people or settlement in Akoko Edo yet we have seen full blooded words that aren't in Bini lexicon nor names. such as Akerele, Bayo, Tosin, etc . Perhaps, Yorubas are wrong, Kindly help us find the etymology of Ikiran Ilé and Ikiran Okè in Bini lexicons. How did Ilé and Okè became Bini words for description of a settlement? grin
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Olu317(m): 9:18pm On Jun 03, 2018
KingSango:
Lies cause damage. Yet in trying to undo the lies you may be feeding into negativity that's the trap. People who need lies to keep them alive are weak people, if that is the case and not some confused Edo historian. grin
You just made me burst into laughter grin. Do you know they condemned Jacob Egharevba's work on history of Bini just to save face? Simply because, it became an embarrassment to Edos that their most revered king was a Yoruba man! grin
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Nobody: 9:21pm On Jun 03, 2018
Olu317:
angry grin grin grin

Greetings to you dear bro
Yes, papi.

Kon ti ri?
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