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Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Nobody: 1:42am On Jun 04, 2018
BabaRamota1980:
Nice Job!

They were told many times that the flowery illustrations of their kingdom in literature has no corresponding victories on ground.

If any people should blow the whistle and toot the horn for Benin Kingdom it is Yoruba who own the bragging right, not descendants of those we conquered and installed our son on. But these people have been brainwashed by the Ekaladheran hoax to a point theyve become slaves to the crown.....they worship Omo N'Oba.

Here is Edo...

Oba does not come out in public
Oba does not travel out of the palace
Oba does not open his eyes in public
Oba does not open mouth in public
Oba does not speak in public
Oba does not blink in public
Oba does not walk in public
Oba does not walk on ground
Oba does not sit in public
Oba' teeth must not be seen in public
Oba's tongue must not be seen
Oba does not shake hand....


So they wrap all these nonsensical mysteries around the Oba and pretend he is god. The king plays along to further enshrine his authority over the slaves.....and stays out of public glare.

In the end Edo has remained stuck in the 17th century and in a neighborhood of fierce competitors struggling for recognition in 21st century political victory. It has thus become a minority below the minority class. It left Western Region to form MidWest, left that and shrunk to Bendel, left that to become a landlocked Edo.


Anyway, no dongo turanchi.

Where is Ekaladheran body buried?

Edo i need answer o. grin
Lol baba you’re not giving any quarters o. I admire the time, patience & intelligence you’ve invested in stemming the storm in the tea cup the edo revisionists who have chosen to swim against the tides of evidences gathered before many of them were born have generated.
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Nobody: 1:47am On Jun 04, 2018
davidnazee:
I don't need proof from you about Benin greatness.. I'm Edo and as such i know we are great. I'm here to put you in your place, and that place is a place for the conquered. You will remain there in history as a conquered tribe.. I didnt make it up, [b]its all there in archives for you to see [/b]and as a researcher that you claim to be I guess you must have seen them..
Unintelligent human.

What archives?

I hope you know that apart from colonial papers, intelligence reports & missionary papers, most of the things [apart from government declassified documents] that make up the archives & museums were gathered during these periods of 50s/60s/70s when the Nigerian Research Scheme was done? grin.

In fact, I am sure you do not know archival & museum records are not favourable to the Bini history you & your Oba want to push at all cheesy
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by davidnazee: 1:53am On Jun 04, 2018
Y0ruba:
Unintelligent human.

What archives?

I hope you know that apart from colonial papers, intelligence reports & missionary papers, most of the things [apart from government declassified documents] that make up the archives & museums were gathered during these periods of 50s/60s/70s when the Nigerian Research Scheme was done? grin.

In fact, I am sure you do not know archival & museum records are not favourable to the Bini history you & your Oba want to push at all cheesy
Heartbroken Yoruba the document u posted done in the 50s clearly says Benin was a super power and you are not.
Go cry more and come back with missiles favourable to the Yorubas..
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by davidnazee: 1:58am On Jun 04, 2018
BabaRamota1980:
Document ke?
Document on Ekaldheran??

Since when did that nonsense starthuh

You own ekaldheran....we dont know who he is.

You give us your document that shows where he died. Thats next task. I already demystified the co.ck and bull story of his fathers chiefs and their harlot queen. I wrote on the deranged father that didnt care to kill a child to solve barreness or wouldnt care to give the one he killed a decent burial.


We are past all that. Hurry up and disclose where ekaladheran died and was buried. The chapter of his life is not complete without a burial.
Mugu Ijebu man you are here wallowing in your delusion didn’t you see the document your brother posted gave us the whole Yoruba race and land. It didn’t give us just Eastern Yoruba like I always thought we had, it gave us everything stretching from Lagos all the way to River Niger.
You are indeed our subject.. your brother Yoruba don fall una hand finish.
I said it earlier all documents are in archives waiting for ur generation and your brother just checked archives and proved me right.
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by BabaRamota1980: 2:13am On Jun 04, 2018
davidnazee:
Heartbroken Yoruba the document u posted done in the 50s clearly says Benin was a super power and you are not.
Go cry more and come back with missiles favourable to the Yorubas..
But Yoruba owns the superpower rights to Bini.

If anyone needs a practical demonstration of SLAVERY they need to juat observe the relationship between Edo and Bini.

Edo has never been a superpower. In fact you were a disorganized and rebellious society. Your chiefs went to superpower Ife to beg for a clone copy of its greatness and civilization.

Yoruba sent and installed Bini over you. Of course Bini should be a superpower....are you not smart to see where it came from?

What else do you expect Bini to be, like Ogiso Owodohuh

grin
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by BabaRamota1980: 2:16am On Jun 04, 2018
davidnazee:
Mugu Ijebu man you are here wallowing in your delusion didn’t you see the document your brother posted gave us the whole Yoruba race and land. It didn’t give us just Eastern Yoruba like I always thought we had, it gave us everything stretching from Lagos all the way to River Niger.
You are indeed our subject.. your brother Yoruba don fall una hand finish.
I said it earlier all documents are in archives waiting for ur generation and your brother just checked archives and proved me right.
Wetin concern me with whether you stretch from here to Kenya?

I realize you are stretched from here to Italy, does that even concern me?

Here is what concerns me....Ekaladheran.

Where is he buried? I think his head is in the same crypt Eweka and his descendants are buried in. Dont you think sohuh
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Obalufon: 2:32am On Jun 04, 2018
samuk:
Hopefully you will eventually lean something today, the bight of Benin is a body of water that was named after Benin for her greatness just the way Victoria falls and Victoria island was named after queen Victoria of England.
You are already contradicting your compatriot Metaphisical on the history of Lagos just like I stated in my earlier post, you all come out of your ethnic enclaves in the name of one Yoruba and start distorting other peoples history, you guys have nothing to do with Lagos but trying to rewrite her history and start contradicting yourself in a show of shame, do even have shame?
gulf of guinea bight Benin what is the difference
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by davidnazee: 2:40am On Jun 04, 2018
BabaRamota1980:
Wetin concern me with whether you stretch from here to Kenya?

I realize you are stretched from here to Italy, does that even concern me?

Here is what concerns me....Ekaladheran.

Where is he buried? I think his head is in the same crypt Eweka and his descendants are buried in. Dont you think sohuh
Please which part of Yoruba are u from? Tell me make I give u juicy and confirmed details of our exploits there. Don’t be scared, tell me.
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by BabaRamota1980: 3:03am On Jun 04, 2018
davidnazee:
Please which part of Yoruba are u from? Tell me make I give u juicy and confirmed details of our exploits there. Don’t be scared, tell me.
Dude, dont vexx me tonight o.

Begin conjure up your otumokpo before the chiefs lock it up for another 400yrs, to disclose to you where ekaladheran is.

Where is the fugitive buried?
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Obalufon: 3:15am On Jun 04, 2018
davidnazee:
I'm thinking you secretly yearn for knowledge so I will freely educate you a little on this before I go back to tormenting you.

Prior to visiting Western Africa the Europeans had been in contact with North Africans and Arabs and it was from them they heard about a people/culture (and great kingdoms) existing in tropical (rain forest) West Africa. The Portuguese explorers got permission from their King to navigate and chart the unknown African region. So starting from North Africa coast the explorers sailed along the coastal line of Africa to the West and finally they arrived at Benin Kingdom. Benin Kingdom was the first place they landed in the area now known as Nigeria. and FYI trading didnt immediately begin when they landed. When they came they met the Itsekiris who were living closest to where their ship docked, and as normal with every visit to a new place they inquired who their ruler was.. The Itsekiris directed them to their capital Benin City where the great King resides.. and the rest is history.
School who ..Europe were trying to find another route to India they navigating the coastline of Africa with hope of circum navigate to get to Indian ocean DO you know why ??

their first contact was cape Verde after guinea sierra leone Lagos.

they weren't looking for no fucking jungle kingdom ..The known kingdom in west Africa documented by Arab scholars are mali Ghana Songhai bornu Oyo ..oyo was writing ajami Arabic as early as 13 century those are the known empire in west Africa and they had contact with themselves through trade ..The Arab had contact with them through trade oyo was mentioned by great African scholar Ahmed baba and also Moroccan explorer and historian Ibn Battuta ..
Benin is a fucking jungle !!!! brother what the hell are you saying your people were not known trader then.. your are hostile pillaging weaker forest people ..
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Obalufon: 3:25am On Jun 04, 2018
davidnazee:
shut up there.. as if you and your yoruba brothers don't know the Deji was executed by Benin for messing up.. I don't need to even discuss what you already know with you.. unless u are a dummy.
It should even be shameful to you yorubas that the execution took place towards the end of the 1800s.. that was a time when everyone was getting more civilized and developed.. but yet at that time yoruba was still under Benin Kingdom..
when edo was getting civilized not everybody coconut head .. i'm glad you accepted you were n't civilized at all till 1800s your barbaric behavior still stinks
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Obalufon: 3:37am On Jun 04, 2018
davidnazee:
Please mention and as usual I will post real and documented articles that discusses a time when Eastern Yoruba princes were mandated to serve as slaves in Oba of Benin palace before they could go back home to become King in their lands..
I get thousands of documents on Yoruba history..
rat rat
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Obalufon: 3:49am On Jun 04, 2018
Olu317:
Not ready to disgrace your Edo servants grin . And the Oba Bini who was the third son of Esigie ,called Okpame (Ozolua) became king, he was the one who had military incursion into Owo but not successful Even the incursion into Akure, saga, you were chased away. Even arounnd 1820s/1830s, another attempt were made by your infamous warriors ,when they formed alliance with some Égi chiefs but were crushed by Derin Olongbenla.What exactly did you Edo do to make you great apart from pepper,ivory,sculpture wore? You could not subjugate Urhobos,Eastern Ibos, Lukumi, etc .
I don't want to keep exposing Bini king past leaders inconsistenies because he is a Yoruba man.
welldone bro..our great oni of ife derin olongbenla warrior crushed them
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by EdoNation(f): 4:00am On Jun 04, 2018
Dirty st.inky yooobaaa ppl,.... grin grin grin grin grin

Look at thier useless punk in ife bowing down to common saraki ..... Hahahaha kingsango you are right alaafin can never do this , Ooni the bastard from a slave bitch enbarasses himself at every turn , hahahaha ..Apart from bring a slave bloodline . He paid for the throne so am not even surprised grin wink cheesy

Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by davidnazee: 4:37am On Jun 04, 2018
EdoNation:
Dirty st.inky yooobaaa ppl,.... grin grin grin grin grin

Look at thier useless punk in ife bowing down to common saraki ..... Hahahaha kingsango you are right alaafin can never do this , Ooni the bastard from a slave bitch enbarasses himself at every turn , hahahaha ..Apart from bring a slave bloodline . He paid for the throne so am not even surprised grin wink cheesy
And the Fulani president just ordered his Fulani IG to arrest the Yoruba leader Saraki.
Yoruba forever under Fulani. If they were under Benin we won’t be embarrassing them the way the Fulanis are doing them.
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by davidnazee: 4:41am On Jun 04, 2018
Obalufon:
when edo was getting civilized not everybody coconut head .. i'm glad you accepted you were n't civilized at all till 1800s your barbaric behavior still stinks
Mugu I said “getting more civilized” meaning moving from one level of civilization to another, getting better. In 18th century when una supposed don open eye more we were still beheading your rulers.

You can’t beat me an Edo man, I’m always ahead of u. Before u think I don think am.,
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by BabaRamota1980: 5:03am On Jun 04, 2018
davidnazee:
And the Fulani president just ordered his Fulani IG to arrest the Yoruba leader Saraki.
Yoruba forever under Fulani. If they were under Benin we won’t be embarrassing them the way the Fulanis are doing them.
Face ekaladheran and leave fulani alone.

I recall early on this thread how every word out of your mouth was ekaladheran. You were quick to mention him and his founding of Ife.

Now you are stammering to say Ekhala.... You havent said the word Ekaladheran since page 25 and we are almost to 60pages.

What happened? Did somebody slap Ekaladheran out of your mouth? Please dont loose faith. I still have lots of question to ask and I need you to help explain the fugitive.

By the time im done with you, the dimwit Ogiso Owodo and his mute son Ekaladheran....

when you hear Ekala.....before they complete the "dheran" you go don excuse yaself vamoose from the spot. grin
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by BabaRamota1980: 5:08am On Jun 04, 2018
I am a proud Edo Girl....... I am from the great Benin Empire first before i am an Italian!!
We already know! grin grin. cool
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by steveosaz(m): 6:14am On Jun 04, 2018
Moorish:
Let’s Forget the w.hore s.hit little edo man, The whole world already knows about the s.luts of edo
just as yo-ROBBER are known for eating ewedu soup, that's how adultery is an inseparable partner of Thiers. Even your married women are in the habit of keeping multiple sex partners. Yo-ROBBER women are the only ones in the whole world who could have seven children for seven different men. Your men recklessly joke about their adulterous escapades openly.

Do something about your internal re colonization by the Fulani and leave trash for LAWMA.
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by steveosaz(m): 6:43am On Jun 04, 2018
Y0ruba:
I do not know if you actually think before you type or if you read what you type for any modicum of sense before hitting the ‘submit’ button.

Your come backs are the most pedestrian & stupidest attempts at being sneaky. You must think other posters are slow & retarded posters like yourself & those of your Edo folks who are unintelligent enough to know & accept that your Oba’s tales are not supported by material & non-material evidences gathered & studied for decades starting from the 50s/60s/70s.

We are not illiterates. There are little to no historians & archeologists of Edo/Bini origin who have done or published any works on Edo/Bini history and these are due to obvious reasons listed below:

1. Yoruba pioneered history in Nigeria. Google Ibadan School of History. The population, lead in adoption of western education & the Ibadan school put the ratio of scholars at a high number favourable to the Yoruba people.

2. This point is the most important. The Nigeria history research scheme sponsored regionally led to years of extensive study of Bini history. Now the implication of this is that, Bini history was exhausted & there has been nothing else to add - in archeology, anthropology & history. So nobody goes to these fields & chooses to specialize in Edo/Bini studies, they may never even get to complete their PhD not to mention being regarded as an original scholar. Recent studies on Bini are mostly an agglomeration of past works to fit a narrative - this is something less scholarly. Ever wondered why after so mant decades your Oba’s book was the only book/paper on Bini & have you wondered why no historian was involved in its preparation or why the scholars have yet to rate it after so many years in circulation?

In clear terms, there is no paper/book on Bini history/archeology because it has limited records and this as been thoroughly dealt with by Smith, Bradbury, Lloyd, Ryder - all neutral caucasians.

See the excerpt below & stop disgracing your generation with your unending unintelligent comments.

Also, all the research written from the 50s narrating Ife/Yoruba prominence to Bini were given, approved & stamped by your king & members of your royal family.
Pioneershuh Yo-ROBBERS are indeed a huge joke. Yet in all these your years of historical manufacturing, not a single scroll from Ife or anywhere else. The Hebrews had scrolls dating back to several thousand years ago. The Egyptians who are regarded as the cradle of civilization had their hieroglyphics documenting their way of life in time past. Their obelisks have for centuries and till date been a juicy spot and source of historical interests. Where is the interest in Yoruba history? None because everybody is a historian in Yoruba land, and so most of the literature out there are basically contradicting one another. The standard other societies have in relaying their history is non existent in the Yoruba case. Too many versions, revisions and formulations and that's why your history can never be streamlined. It is this duplicitous character that you hydra headed monsters have frantically been trying to import into the Edo/Benin narrative.
But you know why it has never and would never work? Because a people must first tell their story before an outsider can have a perspective and the Edos have told their story and no bloody yo-ROBBER from anywhere can alter that. Any such attempt would as always end in futility.
It is for this reason that the late Benin king put pen to paper and gave a perspective on the history of the royal family-a feat no Yoruba king has ever achieved.
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Nobody: 7:54am On Jun 04, 2018
steveosaz:
Pioneershuh Yo-ROBBERS are indeed a huge joke. Yet in all these your years of historical manufacturing, not a single scroll from Ife or anywhere else. The Hebrews had scrolls dating back to several thousand years ago. The Egyptians who are regarded as the cradle of civilization had their hieroglyphics documenting their way of life in time past. Their obelisks have for centuries and till date been a juicy spot and source of historical interests. Where is the interest in Yoruba history? None because everybody is a historian in Yoruba land, and so most of the literature out there are basically contradicting one another. The standard other societies have in relaying their history is non existent in the Yoruba case. Too many versions, revisions and formulations and that's why your history can never be streamlined. It is this duplicitous character that you hydra headed monsters have frantically been trying to import into the Edo/Benin narrative.
But you know why it has never and would never work? Because a people must first tell their story before an outsider can have a perspective and the Edos have told their story and no bloody yo-ROBBER from anywhere can alter that. Any such attempt would as always end in futility.
It is for this reason that the late Benin king put pen to paper and gave a perspective on the history of the royal family-a feat no Yoruba king has ever achieved.
All these Bini hacks with unintelligent responses.

A simple google search about Historians in Nigeria would have helped you.

Apart from Kenneth Dike, Afigbo, Abdulahi Smith & a few others of non-Yoruba origin, the number of Historians who are Yoruba is high & they are in high demand in the Americas & Europe. You can look them up, be useful to yourself. grin

As for material historical evidences, Yoruba has obelisks, arts in stone, wood, clay & metals. As for recorded evidence, Yoruba has Ifa which everyone is dying to learn even in the 21st century. What do the Edo/Bini have? A art that is an appendage of the Yoruba; a monarchy that is an appendage of the Yoruba & indigenous religion filled with gods in the Yoruba pantheon. Bini’s relevance revolves around its connection with Yoruba. Look up olokun head, that work is dated to be from very many centuries ago yet it t was so intensely made that it trounces any work out of Africa including Bini - fact.

Where is the interest in Yoruba history, you ask? This is a foolish question but do you know how many research papers or books published almost yearly on Yoruba? Do you know how many foreign scholars made their career out of Yoruba history? Let me give you an illustration so you’ll understand. Bini had a sustained contact with Europeans from about the 15th/16th century meanwhile Europeans had contact with Yoruba proper just starting from the 19th century and they havee been crazy about Yoruba history ever since. For starters google Leo Fobrenius & Dierk Lange. JDY Perl wrote Yoruba history till he passed in the early 2000s. P. Verger, Ulli Bierer, Morton & Frank Willet all did Yoruba history their entire lives. Recently, there are the Sustan Preston & a bunch of caucasians digging into Yoruba history. Apart from the early researchers such has Smith, Bradbury, Lloyd please give us a list of people interested in Bini history, I’ll wait cheesy

Nobody is stopping Bini from selling its own history. The problem here is that it contradicts what was dug around Bini & your palace; it contradicts archeological datings of materials found in your own place; it contradicts tests done on soil layers and resulting periods of occupation; it contradicts the data your king, palace chiefs & old men gave in the old days; it contradicts records in the archives and museums herein Naija & overseas. Do you see why no one is interested in your king’s book & the history at that? Do you see why researchers avoid that story, it can ruin a researcher’s career in an instant! grin. See, your falsehood stories have a lot of material & non-material data given to Europeans by your own forefathers to contend with. Maybe your forefathers should not have assisted the Europeans in the research works conducted decades ago. grin
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Nobody: 7:55am On Jun 04, 2018
BabaRamota1980:
Face ekaladheran and leave fulani alone.

I recall early on this thread how every word out of your mouth was ekaladheran. You were quick to mention him and his founding of Ife.

Now you are stammering to say Ekhala....
You havent said the word Ekaladheran since page 25 and we are almost to 60pages.

What happened? Did somebody slap Ekaladheran out of your mouth? Please dont loose faith. I still have lots of question to ask and I need you to help explain the fugitive.

By the time im done with you, the dimwit Ogiso Owodo and his mute son Ekaladheran....

when you hear Ekala.....before they complete the "dheran" you go don excuse yaself vamoose from the spot. grin
LMAO.

Baba you’re evil.

cheesy
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Nobody: 8:10am On Jun 04, 2018
davidnazee:
Heartbroken Yoruba the document u posted done in the 50s clearly says Benin was a super power and you are not.
Go cry more and come back with missiles favourable to the Yorubas..
davidnazee:
Mugu Ijebu man you are here wallowing in your delusion didn’t you see the document your brother posted gave us the whole Yoruba race and land. It didn’t give us just Eastern Yoruba like I always thought we had, it gave us everything stretching from Lagos all the way to River Niger.
You are indeed our subject.. your brother Yoruba don fall una hand finish.
I said it earlier all documents are in archives waiting for ur generation and your brother just checked archives and proved me right.
Stewpid fook, these are more document from the ‘archives’, I hope they are enough proof for you.

Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Olu317(m): 8:31am On Jun 04, 2018
Obalufon:
Orisha reveals its self more secrete to whom worship it in sincerity ..King sango initiated into Sango .his not a novice is right likewise you to olu he revered his god so respect his opinion ..Orisha is like a big elephant different people see in different form.....[color=#000000]I'm direct descendant of Oduduwa from ile-ife[/color]
Oh I see. Nice chatting with you bro
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Moorish: 8:34am On Jun 04, 2018
steveosaz:
just as yo-ROBBER are known for eating ewedu soup, that's how adultery is an inseparable partner of Thiers. Even your married women are in the habit of keeping multiple sex partners. Yo-ROBBER women are the only ones in the whole world who could have seven children for seven different men. Your men recklessly joke about their adulterous escapades openly.

Do something about your internal re colonization by the Fulani and leave trash for LAWMA.
Edo women sell their daughters through prostitution rings in Italy

Yet you claim you are a great people

My guy, the state of your people should be your concern, forget about others!
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by steveosaz(m): 8:37am On Jun 04, 2018
EdoNation:
Dirty st.inky yooobaaa ppl,.... grin grin grin grin grin

Look at thier useless punk in ife bowing down to common saraki ..... Hahahaha kingsango you are right alaafin can never do this , Ooni the bastard from a slave bitch enbarasses himself at every turn , hahahaha ..Apart from bring a slave bloodline . He paid for the throne so am not even surprised grin wink cheesy
Hahahaha, these people are bastards by nature. This is a symbolism of Yoruba bowing down to Fulani again. Ife bows before Afonja/Alimi... Shameless people.

How can a king of this status stoop that low to receive Saraki's handshake with two hands while bowing down? Tomorrow, yo-ROBBER demons would tell you it never happened because it doesn't agree with their sensibilities.

Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Obalufon:
davidnazee:
This screen shot of the Benin study you posted doesn't say anything to dispute what my argument has been, that Benin was a super power compared to the Yoruba Kingdoms.. From the post you can see it says Benin was the only powerful Kingdom in southern Nigeria ruling from coast of river Niger through Yoruba lands to Lagos and beyond..
If you have more documents to discredit my argument please post it but if this is all you have to show then you are a big fool.. You post document that says Benin ruled Yoruba and you insulting me..
superpower my ass.. battle of imagbon was before Benin invasion our oba and chiefs were not disgraced like your oba and chiefs killed and hung like a dog rather they were placed on royalty and pension
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by samuk:
Y0ruba:
LMAO.

Baba you’re evil.

cheesy
Are you still writing after you practically handed victory to the Edo on the forum by posting from the archive, Yoruba historical documents that showed that Benin was your overlords. Even the Edos did not claim the full extent of their forebears domination of Yoruba land, we were all claiming eastern Yoruba not Lagos to river niger as your documents shows. Thanks to you, I now know it was the entire Yoruba land Benin subjugated. David set you a trap by asking that you produce historical documents, you foolishly did. You are not clever at all, at least your other compatriots avoided posting verifiable documents, they stuck to their unverifiable tales by moonlight and you jumped in to spoil it for them. There is nothing more to debate here as you have proven every Edo on this thread right by your documents. I wonder what point you were trying to make, your Yoruba historical document says Benin owned and ruled Yoruba land, what else.
My guess is there are those on this forum that know the truth but like to enjoy themselves by writing funny stories that makes them feel good but are very careful not to point to verifiable documents because of other Yoruba here that are genuinely ignorant and are here as spectators, by posting verifiable documents, one or two of these ignorant ones are bound to start questioning your tales by moonlight they thought were true history.
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Olu317(m): 9:38am On Jun 04, 2018
KingSango:
I have noted that Sango isnt worshiped by all Yorubas at least some years ago. Yet you are called Yoruba which means you are saying, "Subject of the Oba of Oyo". grin The British gave your ancestors that name because when they arrived the head Yoruba king was the Alaafin , who is the "Living Sango" grin

I am an ibeji. My mother and her brother, my uncle, were ibeji. My aunt, who is my mothers sister, had 2 sets of triplets, and one set of twins. I saw pictures of my family photo of cousins that were cojoined and both lived to get married. Weird? I know. grin


Sango is all throughout my bloodline. Sango is the baba of ibeji. I know this about Sango, Sango dont bow to no one. The Yoruba king you are related to by descent named Sango would have been the type of person that became superior in strength, power and charm that he ruled over everyone including the Ooni when he was around. I can see how come he wasnt liked by some Yorubas, even say Sango was arrogant. Sango is fire and fire is the supreme element next to ashe which is the highest.


Yet Oya is the secret to Sangos power believe it or not. Oya is a cold woman and you cant have fire without ice or the whole universe will burn. grin Ifa is the the masculine tradition of Yorubas. OOsha is the mother tradition. Ejiogbe is masculine, I am all male. My views are forceful yet they sink into the mind. My medicine is strong it knocks the patient cured. grin Share and your expiences with others will be less frictional.


Ase


Love Sango
You see,one of the reason, I as a person make mockery of many of you lads that are Afro Americans in the united states is many of you is inept on Africa, because you don't think before you talk or inform as it relate to a lot of subject matters that happens in Africa. This is the reason I pick and respond to what seem logical questions you cunningly desire the answers to things you have no knowledege on. And people, on this forum of Yoruba extraction will help you out on them all. . You and millions of Afro Americans have done practically nothing to better the lot of poverty ridden African countries, so why do you complain for unity among strange fellows with distinct ideologies and historical connection? Instead ,you blame Africans for slave trade btw the ancients kingdoms that connived with white and Arab invaders. Yoruba didnt sell Yorubas to slavery but invaders did. Can you not see the difference that sold captured citizens and invaders caught as P.O.W ? Do you think I gave a damn about Pan Africanism? My ancestors gave no care about Pan Africanism nor will I.If you want peace for Africans,then let all of you Complain to UN in millions. After, all, you all have DNA link to Africa. The American Caucasians are helping European market sustainable through policies on trade, so do the needful bro. Mind you, We as yoruba didn't wage war against any ethnicity except we were/ are attacked first. The Yorubas descendants in America be it in the states ,North, central, South American and Carribean Island believed in their tradition and always wiling to come home on tourism. Your inconsistency and lack of knowledge of yorubas is the reason I don't want to engage you on a fruitless mission. I have given out my personal information, but you seem to think , it was a joke! Yoruba on this platform don't want peace with any one who distort the original historical account betweeen Yoruba and Bini you loose sight of it . Edo as whole is different from Bini, which was founded by my partilineal ancestor? Still you didnt understand it. If you are bewitched with Oyo history ,then go meet up with Olu Ko so and not Oba Ko so . This is the difference . A big mystery that you cant unravel. Oranmiyan was the one through which ‘Oba' as a word came out of ILE IFE, still you kept blundering from one post of yours to another. How do I classify you undecided ? I had said earlier and will affirm it again that, Sango is not worshipped by many Yorubas because, what it became extraordinary to slaves in Oyo, who sees Ajaokuta ‘god’, had existed before his father was born. Ajaka was the older brother of Sango,who reigned before and after Ajakuta/Ajaokuta. For your information, Sango, mistakenly killed all his children through fire in his palace. The current Alaafin is a descendant of Ajaka Being a twin is a gift from Eledumare in Yoruba cosmology and Yoruba has the largest set of twins in the world. Does this not give you the reason to thread gently on what you have no knowledge on ?
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Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by steveosaz(m): 9:49am On Jun 04, 2018
samuk:
Are you still writing after you practically handed victory to the Edo on the forum by posting from the archive, Yoruba historical documents that showed that Benin was your overlords. Even the Edos did not claim the full extent of their forebears domination of Yoruba land, we were all claiming eastern Yoruba not Lagos to river niger as your documents shows. Thanks to you, I now know it was the entire Yoruba land Benin subjugated. David set you a trap by asking that you produce historical documents, you foolishly did. You are not clever at all, at least your other compatriots avoided posting verifiable documents, they stuck to their unverifiable tales by moonlight and you jumped in to spoil it for them. There is nothing more to debate here as you have proven every Edo on this thread right by your documents. I wonder what point you were trying to make, your Yoruba historical document says Benin owned and ruled Yoruba land, what else.
Y0ruba:
Stewpid fook, these are more document from the ‘archives’, I hope they are enough proof for you.
Samuk, exactly what I thought when I saw the post by Y0ruba. The guy has practically murdered himself.

Every damn thing in that post of his showed that the Edos peppered these people for centuries.
Yoruba should really be grateful to the British for amalgamating Nigeria, otherwise, Benin for don't sell them into slavery finish.

Self entrapment... Hahaha I love this. The guy totally bombed the entire yo-ROBBER war craft on here. That's what happens when you pick up a sword for a fight without being skillful, your opponent wouldn't even have to kill you, you'll do it yourself.

Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by steveosaz(m): 10:04am On Jun 04, 2018
Moorish:
Edo women sell their daughters through prostitution rings in Italy

Yet you claim you are a great people

My guy, the state of your people should be your concern, forget about others!
Just as yo-ROBBER are reputed for armed robberies and yahoo yahoo abi?

Guy, you are gloriless. Tell yourselves the truth, the rot in Edo nation is nothing compared to that in yo-ROBBER land. To make it worse, you people even degrade yourselves by kowtowing to your largely illiterate Fulani overlords.

Americans don't deny their country, neither do Europeans and same for Israelis. But yo-ROBBER bastards are littered all over the north denying their Yoruba origin, repudiating their Yoruba ancestry and culture and adorning that of a more superior state-the Hausa/Fulani state. Even in your lands, strangers have been ruling you. Lam Adeshina of Oyo was Igbirra, Same with Olusegun Mimiko of Ondo, all Igbirra ruling you people and you aren't even ashamed of yourselves.

Why would anyone want to be Yoruba when even the children of the house are running away and denying it.
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Obalufon: 10:05am On Jun 04, 2018
steveosaz:
Hahahaha, these people are bastards by nature. This is a symbolism of Yoruba bowing down to Fulani again. Ife bows before Afonja/Alimi... Shameless people.

How can a king of this status stoop that low to receive Saraki's handshake with two hands while bowing down? Tomorrow, yo-ROBBER demons would tell you it never happened because it doesn't agree with their sensibilities.
what is wrong about the picture saraki approached the oba on seat and gave decent greeting oni welcome him with open heart as a son . he stood there receiving the blessing of his father . ..Saraki is the senate president of Nigeria..you people are so fool of yourself .. if saraki visited him palace and his no more senate president of Nigeria he will prostrate to honor his ancestor
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