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| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Nobody: 1:42am On Jun 04, 2018 |
BabaRamota1980:Lol baba you’re not giving any quarters o. I admire the time, patience & intelligence you’ve invested in stemming the storm in the tea cup the edo revisionists who have chosen to swim against the tides of evidences gathered before many of them were born have generated. |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Nobody: 1:47am On Jun 04, 2018 |
davidnazee:Unintelligent human. What archives? I hope you know that apart from colonial papers, intelligence reports & missionary papers, most of the things [apart from government declassified documents] that make up the archives & museums were gathered during these periods of 50s/60s/70s when the Nigerian Research Scheme was done? . In fact, I am sure you do not know archival & museum records are not favourable to the Bini history you & your Oba want to push at all ![]() |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by davidnazee: 1:53am On Jun 04, 2018 |
Y0ruba:Heartbroken Yoruba the document u posted done in the 50s clearly says Benin was a super power and you are not. Go cry more and come back with missiles favourable to the Yorubas.. |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by davidnazee: 1:58am On Jun 04, 2018 |
BabaRamota1980:Mugu Ijebu man you are here wallowing in your delusion didn’t you see the document your brother posted gave us the whole Yoruba race and land. It didn’t give us just Eastern Yoruba like I always thought we had, it gave us everything stretching from Lagos all the way to River Niger. You are indeed our subject.. your brother Yoruba don fall una hand finish. I said it earlier all documents are in archives waiting for ur generation and your brother just checked archives and proved me right. |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by BabaRamota1980: 2:13am On Jun 04, 2018 |
davidnazee:But Yoruba owns the superpower rights to Bini. If anyone needs a practical demonstration of SLAVERY they need to juat observe the relationship between Edo and Bini. Edo has never been a superpower. In fact you were a disorganized and rebellious society. Your chiefs went to superpower Ife to beg for a clone copy of its greatness and civilization. Yoruba sent and installed Bini over you. Of course Bini should be a superpower....are you not smart to see where it came from? What else do you expect Bini to be, like Ogiso Owodo ![]() ![]() |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by BabaRamota1980: 2:16am On Jun 04, 2018 |
davidnazee:Wetin concern me with whether you stretch from here to Kenya? I realize you are stretched from here to Italy, does that even concern me? Here is what concerns me....Ekaladheran. Where is he buried? I think his head is in the same crypt Eweka and his descendants are buried in. Dont you think so ![]() |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Obalufon: 2:32am On Jun 04, 2018 |
samuk:gulf of guinea bight Benin what is the difference |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by davidnazee: 2:40am On Jun 04, 2018 |
BabaRamota1980:Please which part of Yoruba are u from? Tell me make I give u juicy and confirmed details of our exploits there. Don’t be scared, tell me. |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by BabaRamota1980: 3:03am On Jun 04, 2018 |
davidnazee:Dude, dont vexx me tonight o. Begin conjure up your otumokpo before the chiefs lock it up for another 400yrs, to disclose to you where ekaladheran is. Where is the fugitive buried? |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Obalufon: 3:15am On Jun 04, 2018 |
davidnazee:School who ..Europe were trying to find another route to India they navigating the coastline of Africa with hope of circum navigate to get to Indian ocean DO you know why ?? their first contact was cape Verde after guinea sierra leone Lagos. they weren't looking for no fucking jungle kingdom ..The known kingdom in west Africa documented by Arab scholars are mali Ghana Songhai bornu Oyo ..oyo was writing ajami Arabic as early as 13 century those are the known empire in west Africa and they had contact with themselves through trade ..The Arab had contact with them through trade oyo was mentioned by great African scholar Ahmed baba and also Moroccan explorer and historian Ibn Battuta .. Benin is a fucking jungle !!!! brother what the hell are you saying your people were not known trader then.. your are hostile pillaging weaker forest people .. |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Obalufon: 3:25am On Jun 04, 2018 |
davidnazee:when edo was getting civilized not everybody coconut head .. i'm glad you accepted you were n't civilized at all till 1800s your barbaric behavior still stinks |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Obalufon: 3:37am On Jun 04, 2018 |
davidnazee:rat rat |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Obalufon: 3:49am On Jun 04, 2018 |
Olu317:welldone bro..our great oni of ife derin olongbenla warrior crushed them |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by EdoNation(f): 4:00am On Jun 04, 2018 |
Dirty st.inky yooobaaa ppl,.... ![]() Look at thier useless punk in ife bowing down to common saraki ..... Hahahaha kingsango you are right alaafin can never do this , Ooni the bastard from a slave bitch enbarasses himself at every turn , hahahaha ..Apart from bring a slave bloodline . He paid for the throne so am not even surprised ![]()
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| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by davidnazee: 4:37am On Jun 04, 2018 |
EdoNation:And the Fulani president just ordered his Fulani IG to arrest the Yoruba leader Saraki. Yoruba forever under Fulani. If they were under Benin we won’t be embarrassing them the way the Fulanis are doing them. |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by davidnazee: 4:41am On Jun 04, 2018 |
Obalufon:Mugu I said “getting more civilized” meaning moving from one level of civilization to another, getting better. In 18th century when una supposed don open eye more we were still beheading your rulers. You can’t beat me an Edo man, I’m always ahead of u. Before u think I don think am., |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by BabaRamota1980: 5:03am On Jun 04, 2018 |
davidnazee:Face ekaladheran and leave fulani alone. I recall early on this thread how every word out of your mouth was ekaladheran. You were quick to mention him and his founding of Ife. Now you are stammering to say Ekhala.... You havent said the word Ekaladheran since page 25 and we are almost to 60pages. What happened? Did somebody slap Ekaladheran out of your mouth? Please dont loose faith. I still have lots of question to ask and I need you to help explain the fugitive. By the time im done with you, the dimwit Ogiso Owodo and his mute son Ekaladheran.... when you hear Ekala.....before they complete the "dheran" you go don excuse yaself vamoose from the spot. ![]() |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by BabaRamota1980: 5:08am On Jun 04, 2018 |
I am a proud Edo Girl....... I am from the great Benin Empire first before i am an Italian!!We already know! . ![]() |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by steveosaz(m): 6:14am On Jun 04, 2018 |
Moorish:just as yo-ROBBER are known for eating ewedu soup, that's how adultery is an inseparable partner of Thiers. Even your married women are in the habit of keeping multiple sex partners. Yo-ROBBER women are the only ones in the whole world who could have seven children for seven different men. Your men recklessly joke about their adulterous escapades openly. Do something about your internal re colonization by the Fulani and leave trash for LAWMA. |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by steveosaz(m): 6:43am On Jun 04, 2018 |
Y0ruba:Pioneers Yo-ROBBERS are indeed a huge joke. Yet in all these your years of historical manufacturing, not a single scroll from Ife or anywhere else. The Hebrews had scrolls dating back to several thousand years ago. The Egyptians who are regarded as the cradle of civilization had their hieroglyphics documenting their way of life in time past. Their obelisks have for centuries and till date been a juicy spot and source of historical interests. Where is the interest in Yoruba history? None because everybody is a historian in Yoruba land, and so most of the literature out there are basically contradicting one another. The standard other societies have in relaying their history is non existent in the Yoruba case. Too many versions, revisions and formulations and that's why your history can never be streamlined. It is this duplicitous character that you hydra headed monsters have frantically been trying to import into the Edo/Benin narrative. But you know why it has never and would never work? Because a people must first tell their story before an outsider can have a perspective and the Edos have told their story and no bloody yo-ROBBER from anywhere can alter that. Any such attempt would as always end in futility. It is for this reason that the late Benin king put pen to paper and gave a perspective on the history of the royal family-a feat no Yoruba king has ever achieved. |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Nobody: 7:54am On Jun 04, 2018 |
steveosaz:All these Bini hacks with unintelligent responses. A simple google search about Historians in Nigeria would have helped you. Apart from Kenneth Dike, Afigbo, Abdulahi Smith & a few others of non-Yoruba origin, the number of Historians who are Yoruba is high & they are in high demand in the Americas & Europe. You can look them up, be useful to yourself. ![]() As for material historical evidences, Yoruba has obelisks, arts in stone, wood, clay & metals. As for recorded evidence, Yoruba has Ifa which everyone is dying to learn even in the 21st century. What do the Edo/Bini have? A art that is an appendage of the Yoruba; a monarchy that is an appendage of the Yoruba & indigenous religion filled with gods in the Yoruba pantheon. Bini’s relevance revolves around its connection with Yoruba. Look up olokun head, that work is dated to be from very many centuries ago yet it t was so intensely made that it trounces any work out of Africa including Bini - fact. Where is the interest in Yoruba history, you ask? This is a foolish question but do you know how many research papers or books published almost yearly on Yoruba? Do you know how many foreign scholars made their career out of Yoruba history? Let me give you an illustration so you’ll understand. Bini had a sustained contact with Europeans from about the 15th/16th century meanwhile Europeans had contact with Yoruba proper just starting from the 19th century and they havee been crazy about Yoruba history ever since. For starters google Leo Fobrenius & Dierk Lange. JDY Perl wrote Yoruba history till he passed in the early 2000s. P. Verger, Ulli Bierer, Morton & Frank Willet all did Yoruba history their entire lives. Recently, there are the Sustan Preston & a bunch of caucasians digging into Yoruba history. Apart from the early researchers such has Smith, Bradbury, Lloyd please give us a list of people interested in Bini history, I’ll wait ![]() Nobody is stopping Bini from selling its own history. The problem here is that it contradicts what was dug around Bini & your palace; it contradicts archeological datings of materials found in your own place; it contradicts tests done on soil layers and resulting periods of occupation; it contradicts the data your king, palace chiefs & old men gave in the old days; it contradicts records in the archives and museums herein Naija & overseas. Do you see why no one is interested in your king’s book & the history at that? Do you see why researchers avoid that story, it can ruin a researcher’s career in an instant! . See, your falsehood stories have a lot of material & non-material data given to Europeans by your own forefathers to contend with. Maybe your forefathers should not have assisted the Europeans in the research works conducted decades ago. ![]() |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Nobody: 7:55am On Jun 04, 2018 |
BabaRamota1980:LMAO. Baba you’re evil. ![]() |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Nobody: 8:10am On Jun 04, 2018 |
davidnazee: davidnazee:Stewpid fook, these are more document from the ‘archives’, I hope they are enough proof for you.
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| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Olu317(m): 8:31am On Jun 04, 2018 |
Obalufon:Oh I see. Nice chatting with you bro |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Moorish: 8:34am On Jun 04, 2018 |
steveosaz:Edo women sell their daughters through prostitution rings in Italy Yet you claim you are a great people My guy, the state of your people should be your concern, forget about others! |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by steveosaz(m): 8:37am On Jun 04, 2018 |
EdoNation:Hahahaha, these people are bastards by nature. This is a symbolism of Yoruba bowing down to Fulani again. Ife bows before Afonja/Alimi... Shameless people. How can a king of this status stoop that low to receive Saraki's handshake with two hands while bowing down? Tomorrow, yo-ROBBER demons would tell you it never happened because it doesn't agree with their sensibilities.
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| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Obalufon: 9:02am On Jun 04, 2018*. Modified: 9:58am On Jun 04, 2018 |
davidnazee:superpower my ass.. battle of imagbon was before Benin invasion our oba and chiefs were not disgraced like your oba and chiefs killed and hung like a dog rather they were placed on royalty and pension |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by samuk: 9:26am On Jun 04, 2018*. Modified: 9:48am On Jun 04, 2018 |
Y0ruba:Are you still writing after you practically handed victory to the Edo on the forum by posting from the archive, Yoruba historical documents that showed that Benin was your overlords. Even the Edos did not claim the full extent of their forebears domination of Yoruba land, we were all claiming eastern Yoruba not Lagos to river niger as your documents shows. Thanks to you, I now know it was the entire Yoruba land Benin subjugated. David set you a trap by asking that you produce historical documents, you foolishly did. You are not clever at all, at least your other compatriots avoided posting verifiable documents, they stuck to their unverifiable tales by moonlight and you jumped in to spoil it for them. There is nothing more to debate here as you have proven every Edo on this thread right by your documents. I wonder what point you were trying to make, your Yoruba historical document says Benin owned and ruled Yoruba land, what else. My guess is there are those on this forum that know the truth but like to enjoy themselves by writing funny stories that makes them feel good but are very careful not to point to verifiable documents because of other Yoruba here that are genuinely ignorant and are here as spectators, by posting verifiable documents, one or two of these ignorant ones are bound to start questioning your tales by moonlight they thought were true history. |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Olu317(m): 9:38am On Jun 04, 2018 |
KingSango:You see,one of the reason, I as a person make mockery of many of you lads that are Afro Americans in the united states is many of you is inept on Africa, because you don't think before you talk or inform as it relate to a lot of subject matters that happens in Africa. This is the reason I pick and respond to what seem logical questions you cunningly desire the answers to things you have no knowledege on. And people, on this forum of Yoruba extraction will help you out on them all. . You and millions of Afro Americans have done practically nothing to better the lot of poverty ridden African countries, so why do you complain for unity among strange fellows with distinct ideologies and historical connection? Instead ,you blame Africans for slave trade btw the ancients kingdoms that connived with white and Arab invaders. Yoruba didnt sell Yorubas to slavery but invaders did. Can you not see the difference that sold captured citizens and invaders caught as P.O.W ? Do you think I gave a damn about Pan Africanism? My ancestors gave no care about Pan Africanism nor will I.If you want peace for Africans,then let all of you Complain to UN in millions. After, all, you all have DNA link to Africa. The American Caucasians are helping European market sustainable through policies on trade, so do the needful bro. Mind you, We as yoruba didn't wage war against any ethnicity except we were/ are attacked first. The Yorubas descendants in America be it in the states ,North, central, South American and Carribean Island believed in their tradition and always wiling to come home on tourism. Your inconsistency and lack of knowledge of yorubas is the reason I don't want to engage you on a fruitless mission. I have given out my personal information, but you seem to think , it was a joke! Yoruba on this platform don't want peace with any one who distort the original historical account betweeen Yoruba and Bini you loose sight of it . Edo as whole is different from Bini, which was founded by my partilineal ancestor? Still you didnt understand it. If you are bewitched with Oyo history ,then go meet up with Olu Ko so and not Oba Ko so . This is the difference . A big mystery that you cant unravel. Oranmiyan was the one through which ‘Oba' as a word came out of ILE IFE, still you kept blundering from one post of yours to another. How do I classify you ? I had said earlier and will affirm it again that, Sango is not worshipped by many Yorubas because, what it became extraordinary to slaves in Oyo, who sees Ajaokuta ‘god’, had existed before his father was born. Ajaka was the older brother of Sango,who reigned before and after Ajakuta/Ajaokuta. For your information, Sango, mistakenly killed all his children through fire in his palace. The current Alaafin is a descendant of Ajaka Being a twin is a gift from Eledumare in Yoruba cosmology and Yoruba has the largest set of twins in the world. Does this not give you the reason to thread gently on what you have no knowledge on ? Learn, learn and learn |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by steveosaz(m): 9:49am On Jun 04, 2018 |
samuk: Y0ruba:Samuk, exactly what I thought when I saw the post by Y0ruba. The guy has practically murdered himself. Every damn thing in that post of his showed that the Edos peppered these people for centuries. Yoruba should really be grateful to the British for amalgamating Nigeria, otherwise, Benin for don't sell them into slavery finish. Self entrapment... Hahaha I love this. The guy totally bombed the entire yo-ROBBER war craft on here. That's what happens when you pick up a sword for a fight without being skillful, your opponent wouldn't even have to kill you, you'll do it yourself.
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| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by steveosaz(m): 10:04am On Jun 04, 2018 |
Moorish:Just as yo-ROBBER are reputed for armed robberies and yahoo yahoo abi? Guy, you are gloriless. Tell yourselves the truth, the rot in Edo nation is nothing compared to that in yo-ROBBER land. To make it worse, you people even degrade yourselves by kowtowing to your largely illiterate Fulani overlords. Americans don't deny their country, neither do Europeans and same for Israelis. But yo-ROBBER bastards are littered all over the north denying their Yoruba origin, repudiating their Yoruba ancestry and culture and adorning that of a more superior state-the Hausa/Fulani state. Even in your lands, strangers have been ruling you. Lam Adeshina of Oyo was Igbirra, Same with Olusegun Mimiko of Ondo, all Igbirra ruling you people and you aren't even ashamed of yourselves. Why would anyone want to be Yoruba when even the children of the house are running away and denying it. |
| Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Obalufon: 10:05am On Jun 04, 2018 |
steveosaz:what is wrong about the picture saraki approached the oba on seat and gave decent greeting oni welcome him with open heart as a son . he stood there receiving the blessing of his father . ..Saraki is the senate president of Nigeria..you people are so fool of yourself .. if saraki visited him palace and his no more senate president of Nigeria he will prostrate to honor his ancestor |
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? I had said earlier and will affirm it again that, Sango is not worshipped by many Yorubas because, what it became extraordinary to slaves in Oyo, who sees Ajaokuta ‘god’, had existed before his father was born. Ajaka was the older brother of Sango,who reigned before and after Ajakuta/Ajaokuta. For your information, Sango, mistakenly killed all his children through fire in his palace. The current Alaafin is a descendant of Ajaka Being a twin is a gift from Eledumare in Yoruba cosmology and Yoruba has the largest set of twins in the world. Does this not give you the reason to thread gently on what you have no knowledge on ?