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steveosaz:
I said it that ooni is a stranger and a slave. Here is an altercation between Alaafin and the notoriously controversial late ooni sijuwade.

Alaafin is authentic Yoruba leader

while ur Yoruba ruler in Benin is From ile ife according to the owner of the land Ogiamien. Ur Yoruba ruler is a tenant in his palace.

EdoNation:
Go and collect your mothers puzzy receipt from the meat and groundnut sellers in your street . .. After she dies don't bury her with the puzzy ooo cuz it does not belong to your papa .... Give it to the meat sellers

Oba don swear for una wey dey Italy oh!

Better come back to Edo and live a responsible life

you can even marry steveosaz

Steve go say tufia!

...and the bate between Alaafin and the ooni continues...
Read the whole story at http://www.informationng.com/2012/12/monarchs-at-loggerheads-alaafin-says-ooni-ignorant-about-his-ancestral-origin.html

Moneywomen17:
is kingsango Yoruba so how does his opinion hold weight. Ur dumbass probably didn’t know he was not Yoruba but an African American who is a follower of sango. I respect for holding on to an African tradition especially the great Yoruba own but he talks a lot of things he doesn’t know.

Now, let me answer you. You've been fouling this place with your putrid stupidity all the while without contributing anything meaningful but rather holding forte for an ooni who is a slave of Oduduwa the Edo boy.

You say KingSango is an American, yet he seems to know far more than you who is in one hut in the bush of ile ife cooking history. Tell your ooni to go to the palace of the Alaafin for proper education on his history. When he is through, he should also see the Oba of Lagos to collect certificate, then quickly report to the palace at Benin for blessings. Until then, he would continue bowing down before politicians.

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Moorish:
Oba don swear for una wey dey Italy oh!

Better come back to Edo and live a responsible life

you can even marry steveosaz

Steve go say tufia!

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If I marry osaz or not is not your biz , jealous Yoruba mofo, hot stinky ewedu soup fall on you there and ur had.lot mother

EdoNation:
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If I marry osaz or not is not your biz , jealous Yoruba mofo, hot stinky ewedu soup fall on you there and ur had.lot mother

Go away, you dirty biaatch

Moorish:
Go away, you dirty biaatch

Your Har.lot Mama

EdoNation:
Your Har.lot Mama

May oba's curse fall on you and your dirty mother in Italy LOL

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Moorish:
May oba's curse fall on you and your dirty mother in Italy LOL

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You are just a jobless bastard with no class , thank god you av exposed your owo mi da lifestyle .... Like mother like son ... Har.lot blood

davidnazee:
Your mumu brother that posted the document don run after we made him look foolish and u are still talking.
Bring something else to prove ur point..

I will use thesame document my guy. According to the document he posted Benin attack this five Yoruba kingdom Akure, emure ogotun, ise and ikere and the try going further by the late 16th and early 17 century so I will leave it at 1590. The Benin village was defeated by Ewu kingdom. End of story and could not advanced further. By the early 18th century Benin was weak and all the few eastern Yoruba kingdom in ondo and ekiti like Akure and owo were completely free of Benin and they were already killing the edo people in their town. So Benin could only attack and win successfully against this town from 1590 to early 1700 where all of them were already free from benin accords to the document so 110 years at most. In the 19th century which is the 1800 when ur Benin boys try to take the town once more owo easily defeat the Benin army and when they try to attack Otun they could not defeat and end up joining them in fighting their own local war. All ur warrior that lead the war like ezomo all died and their follower cowardly put down their weapon and settle in the village. When Ibadan came to conquer the town that we’re kicking Benin ass there was no Benin anywhere to be found. And according to the document also ogedengbe lead forces of ekiti and ijesha warrior came for blood and conquer back Some town in Benin kingdom and use Benin people for suya before ur king had to beg them. So if we are going by this document benin attack and conquer like 5 or 6 town in ekiti and ondo together but for 110 years at most and they chase Benin packing not so long and they did not stop there they want to Benin kingdom and conquer back some town themselves. I kinda think it’s a win for the few town in ekiti that was attack and it proves my point that Benin was nothing more than a small kingdom that was severely beaten several times.

EdoNation:
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You are just a jobless bastard with no class , thank god you av exposed your owo mi da lifestyle .... Like mother like son ... Har.lot blood

Money is not everything in life

You that is rich, fire down madam, more grace to your elbow!

WONDER This is a piece written by another Yoruba chap elsewhere. The guy totally exposes the fraud called ooni who all these Yoruba mental Lilliputians here have been fighting tooth and nail defending. I keep saying it, Yoruba has no reckonable history. What they call history is just cut and join comedy. This is the nonsense they now want to import into the Edo story. But sorry, No road!

adecharly:
All human beings are equal before God; the Almighty. He is our Sustainer. The Creator of the worlds. However, God in His infinite wisdom has created man and placed some above others. It is a providential design to achieve universal order, harmony and peace. He has placed the kings over their subjects to ensure coordination. I love history, and I loathe history being distorted. I am neither an ethnic chauvinist nor jingoist. But I have special affinity for history. It is worrisome when people concoct genres of myth in the face of impeccable facts. I wish to delve a bit into in the history of Obaship in Yorubaland ,with a special focus on His Imperial Majesty, The Alaafin of Oyo and His Royal Highness, The Ooni of Ile-Ife.

History has been so kind and friendly to the Alaafin that he does not need to get into any battle for supremacy with any Oba, either in Yorubaland or anywhere in the universe. No other Oba had combined humility with royalty to meet the demands of modernity like the incumbent Alaafin of Oyo, His Imperial Majesty, Kabiyesi Iku Baba Yeye,Oba Lamidi Olayiwola Adeyemi III .

According to impregnable sources of Yoruba history, Oduduwa is the ancestor of the Yorubas. Oduduwa gave birth to a son, Okanbi. Okanbi gave birth to seven male children (Oranmiyan, Olowu, Alaketu, Onisabe, Orangun, Olupopo, Oba Benin). Nowhere in history is Ooni mentioned as one of the Yoruba Royal Families. The Ooni is no blood relation of the seven sons of Okanbi. Historically, Ooni has no traditional or political authority in the Yoruba hierarchy. Riches and political fame of the Ooni from 1954_when Ooni Adesoji Aderemi was made the Governor of Western Region by the Awolowo Administration cannot undo the pristine history or invalidate the truth about the Yoruba race.

History has acquainted us with copious facts that Ooni is known to have been appointed by the Alaafin as the custodian and keeper of the rituals and oratory of the gods in Ile-Ife. The stool of Ooni was never known to be big on hereditary kingship. Oonis have been the descendants of Adimu the Olorisa, instead of being the direct descendants of Oduduwa. The Alaafins of Oyo have been the paramount kings and rulers of the Yorubas. Alaafin, in recognition of his leadership,had intervened in numerous boundary disputes involving the territories of the Ooni and Owa Obokun of Ijeshaland

Some years back, when Oba of Benin visited Ile-Ife, the comments made by Ooni Sijuade (I am happy to welcome back my son and brother to the land of our ancestor, Oduduwa) was quickly refuted by the Oba , through his response:"who is the son of who?"

Moreover, The British as it was in their tradition recognized lineage as meaning supremacy and legitimacy, preferring to sign the Treaty of Cessation with the Alaafin as the Head of the Yoruba Nation.

Also, on August 8th,1960, when Sir Adesoji Aderemi held sway as the Ooni of Ife, Alaafin Bello Gbadegesin Ladigbolu II was appointed the Chairman of the Council of Obas for two years, Oba Adesoji never batted an eyelid. In 1962, when Ooni had ceased to be Governor, he reverted to his traditional stool and was attending the meetings of Obas which had The Alaafin as the Chairman. When the first term of Alaafin Gbadegesin expired, he was reappointed for another two-year term. The Alaafin was reappointed for the third time in 1965 until the military struck.

In 1966, Lt Colonel Adeyinka Adebayo made the Ooni Chairman and the Alaafin his Deputy. Only the Alaafin,among other Obas, protested the awkward appointment and sought redress, as Alaafin does not play a second fiddle to any Oba in Yorubaland. In 1976, the military government had to reinstate the Alaafin as the Chairman of the Council.

It is also a distortion to address the Ooni as "His Imperial Majesty". This is another gaffe! Only the Alaafin is addressed as His/Your Imperial Majesty. You cannot assume the title when you have no empire you rule over. Alaafin ruled over a vast empire (From Ilorin to Dahomey and to some parts of Ghana; Ashanti) while Ooni did not have that royal privilege.The Ooni is better addressed as His/Your Royal Highness. This is history,my people!

The preeminence and supremacy of the Alaafin is obvious from the above assertions and as deeply espoused in many Yoruba books of history. We should not distort the history by pitching the Alaafin against the Ooni. Oba Adeyeye Ogunwusi made an unequivocal statement on his coronation day that he was not into any supremacy contest with the Alaafin. Therefore, Alaafin remains the undisputed leader of all Yoruba monarch.

© Adejare Ibrahim

steveosaz:
Now, let me answer you. You've been fouling this place with your putrid stupidity all the while without contributing anything meaningful but rather holding forte for an ooni who is a slave of Oduduwa the Edo boy.

You say KingSango is an American, yet he seems to know far more than you who is in one hut in the bush of ile ife cooking history. Tell your ooni to go to the palace of the Alaafin for proper education on his history. When he is through, he should also see the Oba of Lagos to collect certificate, then quickly report to the palace at Benin for blessings. Until then, he would continue bowing down before politicians.

I am Afrikan. You lose.

steveosaz:
Now, let me answer you. You've been fouling this place with your putrid stupidity all the while without contributing anything meaningful but rather holding forte for an ooni who is a slave of Oduduwa the Edo boy.

You say KingSango is an American, yet he seems to know far more than you who is in one hut in the bush of ile ife cooking history. Tell your ooni to go to the palace of the Alaafin for proper education on his history. When he is through, he should also see the Oba of Lagos to collect certificate, then quickly report to the palace at Benin for blessings. Until then, he would continue bowing down before politicians.

e pain am kingsango is American and u thought he was Yoruba that’s why u opened ur big mouth to say trash and he kingsango knows little he didn’t even know sango bear Jakuta during his life time and how did u edo boy thinks he knows more than me what did he say that was right and I was wrong point it out. Ur dynasty in Benin is being ruled by the descendants of oranmiyan a Yoruba man. The ooni na ur king father and ur king crown na ife own am if that hurt u take the advice akiolu have to ibo and jump enter lagoon. Ur Ogiamien u know the landlord of ur Oba Palace has told u several time his tenant is a Yoruba man from ife who is ruling u listen to him.

Moneywomen17:
is kingsango Yoruba so how does his opinion hold weight. Ur dumbass probably didn’t know he was not Yoruba but an African American who is a follower of sango. I respect for holding on to an African tradition especially the great Yoruba own but he talks a lot of things he doesn’t know.

I don't know anything.

KingSango:
I don't know anything.

what state are u from in the state

KingSango:
I am Afrikans. You lose.

I don't bloody care where you come from.
It was MoneyWomen17 who said you were American. So sort that out with him.

I only noted that both of you just like the other Yorubas are manufacturers of history.

steveosaz:
See Yoruba versus Yoruba doing a dirty fight... Meanwhile it appears one of them is fraudulently manufacturing history again.

Read this...



Then this...



These are people who have been making failed attempts at rewriting Edo history, yet they don't even know their.
You don't even know the number of Sango's that there were... No wonder, you kept losing wars and had many of your lands fall under Edo control.
Every single day, someone would just wake up and add a new dimension to Yoruba history- complicating an already chequered history.

My advice to you people; set up a council, separate the chaff from the corn. Remove all these nonsensical inventions, streamline your perspectives. If you can do this, them we might just take you a little bit more serious. Tomorrow, someone like Kingsango would publish a book filled with comedy of errors and Yoruba charlatans of that era would be quoting it recklessly.

Laughter is good medicine.

steveosaz:
I don't bloody care where you come from.
It was MoneyWomen17 who said you were American. So sought that out with him.

I only noted that both of you just like the other Yorubas are manufacturers of history.

e pain am he is not Yoruba so stop crying u had hope he is so u can cling on to him as some form of support for ur deluded writings. I like kingsango he honors the Yoruba god whoever or whatever tribe he is but he should investigate the sango more. And kingsango never said he was Yoruba na u say he is so he has nothing to “sought” sort out with me.

Steveosaz right now u know cuz I have this thing called a life but when I have time I will be back to make u cry more.

Moneywomen17:
e pain am kingsango is American and u thought he was Yoruba that’s why u opened ur big mouth to say trash and he kingsango knows little he didn’t even know sango bear Jakuta during his life time and how did u edo boy thinks he knows more than me what did he say that was right and I was wrong point it out. Ur dynasty in Benin is being ruled by the descendants of oranmiyan a Yoruba man. The ooni na ur king father and ur king crown na ife own am if that hurt u take the advice akiolu have to ibo and jump enter lagoon. Ur Ogiamien u know the landlord of ur Oba Palace has told u several time his tenant is a Yoruba man from ife who is ruling u listen to him.

Lol... See this frog head! KingSango knows nothing, while you ain't any better yourself. No Edo person even listens to the Ogiamiens, they are jokers that can only find relevance among ogogoro drinking Yoruba's. Meanwhile, Yoruba is a yesterday creation. In those era under debate,there was no such thing as Yoruba. In Benin, ooni is known as a slaveboy of Oduduwa who himself was a son of the Ogiso. So no respect for Ooni. We even have higher regard for the Alaafin.

Moneywomen17:
Steveosaz right now u know cuz I have this thing called a life but when I have time I will be back to make u cry more.

Hehehe, running away with your tail in between your legs. Typical yo-ROBBER cowardice.
When you come back, you must tell us why you chose to recognize a slave boy(ooni) among royals.

steveosaz:
Lol... See this frog head! KingSango knows nothing, while you ain't any better yourself. No Edo person even listens to the Ogiamiens, they are jokers that can only find relevance among ogogoro drinking Yoruba's. Meanwhile, Yoruba is a yesterday creation. In those era under debate,there was no such thing as Yoruba. In Benin, ooni is known as a slaveboy of Oduduwa who himself was a son of the Ogiso. So no respect for Ooni. We even have higher regard for the Alaafin.

e enter am well. The Ogiamien that no Benin take serious are thesame people ur king has to sign treaty with before he becomes king coz na him be actual owner of the land and Benin are not ashamed at the fact that na ogogoro drinker dey rent palace for oba. In the past there was nothing called Hausa or ibo today even go further back there was nothing called English till they were unified under one. Ooni na ur king father like it or not and mind u I never said kingsango knows nothing I meant he knows little and I respect him for learning.

steveosaz:
Hehehe, running away with your tail in between your legs. Typical yo-ROBBER cowardice.
When you come back, you must tell us why you chose to recognize a slave boy(ooni) among royals.

i get things to do u know I actually have a life U know a job such things but do not worry I will be back ok. Till then bow to ur king father ooni ur kings owes his crown to him.

At the end of the day, no one really hates the other african culture

Me, personally, I do not

If you track my posting on this thread, I was originally benevolent towards Edo people

But they rejected my show of peace and were arrogant and dismissive towards my heritage

At the end of the day however, I am not what I potray here on this thread

I do want the trajectory of this thread to change for the better

Are we going to argue back and forth forever?

I am sure the Edo peeps here have some respect toward Yoruba Heritage

and I am sure the Yorubas same

KingSango:
You have no rank over me or over Edo or Benin. None of You have any rank over each other. The Alaafin and the Oba of Benin belong both to the Kings council, there is no rivalry with them. They work to better Nigeria. So how subjects are rivalrying? You are a subject not a king.


Cults were behind the slave trade just like they are now behind evil human trafficking.


Afrikans all over the world love to form evil cults mixing sex magick and sodomy all in one. This is the curse not tribalism. Isn't Bobrisky Yoruba? Is he a protected member of Ogboni Confraternity? That's devil worshipping Freemasonry where they practice sodomy rituals. This isn't original Ogboni for you have strayed from the lessons of your good king Sango who hates witches.


Evil cults are behind tribal wars too and this comes directly from the story of Ayelala. Y'all need to cleanse the land of devil cults no matter the cost or suffer the wrath of God for your transgressions. 90 percent of your resources are wasted on criminal mafia spending on greed and sin. We have the same curse in America where Black people are members of devil cults. It's the same phenomenon wherever Blacks are they are forming evil gangs based in satanic worship to exploit their own people. Way at the top of all these evil cults are Europeans running it all. Ignorant cult members haven't figured out this is how the European is ruling over all Afrikans. It's a curse that you bring upon the whole by satanic practices. God does not play dice with the universe. Everything has a cause and effect.


Thank the Egun for Ifa because I would have never known without Ifa that Blacks are involved in Satanic worship like Europeans and Jews. Raping children and creatimg homosexual populations. Then lying like they don't know where homosexuality comes from. Freasomry and Christianity are satanic faiths that come from Egypt.


Again there are 3 Sangos. The Sango I come with is the Irunmole. Who I can command to flood whole cities and cause natural disasters. I choose out of love to warn you only. You have no idea the power of Sango. Mixing herbs to cause a little lightning is nothing. As the avatar I can cause a whole nation to suffer endless severe weather. Consult Ifa before you approach this stranger.


Sango ti roogun Oya Se.

Ase

Love Sango

You have no knowledge of what you think you know but knoweth not. Read carefully and dont get yourself into trouble bro. In as much as you mention Odua, Oranmiiyan , Sango etc , I HAVE RIGHT ON IT OVER YOU. Before, you can match me, you've to be a lineage of Oranmiyan else keep from what's greater ,that can consume you. I don't need to worship Sango because I am the son of my ancestors but who are you?

If you don't know what integrity stand for,then I will let you have a taste f it. No man will use negative words on my ancestors and will not taste a bitter pill on it . If any Edo do so, I will hit them hard because, I am called to let them know the truth, either they like it or not. after all, we give dates and sources of information we give information From historical account.
Just imagine,how you ignorantly you claimed you could draw lightning ,and create disaster ? Create disaster over who or where? You make me laugh.

What concern me if anyone is Ogboni or not? It is a bloody choice . Have you no knowledge of ancient Yoruba kingdoms and Empire ? If you dont let me explain to you that it was a taboo and still a taboo to prcatice homosexuality in Yoruba land . In fact,it was and still seen as a evil disease in yoruba herbology world . The group of people who dint marry in ancient Yorubas world were eunuch that serves the kings, concreted priests, etc . You need to study to know the difference. If you love to join any of the Ogboni,then, ask for help from members, who can be of a guide to you. Kindly dont ask me . Furthermore, if you are a lover of Yoruba and an initiate ,doesn't mean you are not a stranger. Being an adopted son is different from blood lineage because the trait and spiritual gift divinely given to is different from yours, so do get it.

Freemanson,can do whatever they chose to do and let God /Eledumare judge everyone for his her act after life.

Just imagine you claiming Egun brought IFA? Egun that dont understand Yoruba language . Ogu or Egun does not have any closeness in lexicons with Yoruba .Bloody clown...

I will honour the contributors to this thread, because African History is not taught in Nigerian Schools

For you guys to know this much, you had to self educate

All of you, both Yoruba and Edo are men of stature

You are the kind of people I associate with

I have hereby halted all hostilities

All the insults end here online..

I was on an Air peace flight last week

Benin man on my left, Benin man on my right

It was all love

We were talking about Nigerian domination of the african entertainment scene

steveosaz:
WONDER This is a piece written by another Yoruba chap elsewhere. The guy totally exposes the fraud called ooni who all these Yoruba mental Lilliputians here have been fighting tooth and nail defending. I keep saying it, Yoruba has no reckonable history. What they call history is just cut and join comedy. This is the nonsense they now want to import into the Edo story. But sorry, No road!

Eehnnn...looto?
You say Ooni is below Alaafin, then you say Ooni is nobody.....you continously disrespect who you claim is your son. Abi?

Edo and witchcraft eehn...

I wouldnt be surprised. Didnt your dimwit Ogiso disrespected his heir?


Your ogiso brother told you in previous page not to be gullible. Thats his polite way to say you are gullible.

You responded and told him you were not gullible. Then you turned around fired more evidences of gullibility by posting newspaper article of back and forth between Ooni and Alaafin.

Your article puts Omo N'Oba visits in jeopardy.

Why are your Kings visiting a lesser authority? If indeed Alaafin is superior as you proposed, what are your Kings going to Ife to visit Ooni for?

Please clarify....and after your clarification take a breath and chill for some minutes so you wont show more gullibility and upset your fellow ekaladherans.


You havent seen anything yet I have all kinds of traps ahead for you, and i promise you lack the intellect to dodge them. I will use you as my channel to expose the emptiness of Edo.

Olu and moneywomen,

Are KingSango's contributions helping this discussion with Edo?

BabaRamota1980:
In case you are wondering why i double posted, its deliberate, to mock you........i wanted to make sure I "accompanied" the first post with a duplicate.

If you like you can be stuborn and deny Oduduwa is rightful heritage. Fact remains he is Ekhaladeran from Edo.. He is buried wherever you buried Oduduwa.. and yes Edos only remember him as a banished prince who later founded Oni lineage in Ife although the Ife throne is now usurped by the lineage of his slave.. A slave whose descendants now rule the Yorubas..

I think there is something about Yorubas and Slavery.. Yorubas where sold as slaves, A slave descendants rules you.. In this modern age Yoruba are still enslaved by the Fulanis..

Now this is what I call an Hatchet Job!!.... Well done my Edo brothers and Sister!

Prolog2 hwfar I see you still dealing deadly facts on the confused scumbags from ile shit town!........

Edonation Sup baby missed me?