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BabaRamota1980:
Your ogiso brother answered that already.

You people dont know where the remains of this ekaladheran is buried. All you know is he left Igodomigodo (not Benin) as a fugitive and went into forest.

Did he die in the forest? You dont know.

Did he return to Igodomigodo? You dont know.

In fact, you dont care....afterall he is a fugitive.

His deranged father didnt care. The harlot queen that put him in his dilemma didnt care. The corrupt chiefs that were sharing pussy with their ogiso and twisting the message of oracle didnt care His Edo people didnt care.

Yoruba dont know him, we dont have any reference in our history about him. Weve never heard of a ekaladheran or an izoduwa or imododuwa in our king list,nor in any of Yorubaland oriki, nor in any of our dynastic totems, or even in our orishas and our legends.

We do know...and your chiefs know that Benin Kingdom is property of Yoruba Ife, as a legacy from Oranmiyan, the grandson of our progenitor Oduduwa Adimula.

If your chiefs could take turns sleeping with wife of their ogiso....if they could be so reckless as to turn the message of oracle upside down and lie against the oracle.....if they could be so cruel as to aid a woman against the honor and dignity of your prince ekaladheran.....then it is not beyond them to fabricate a hoax and mischieveously deceive their people into believing that Eweka is a seed from the loins of an ogiso son. This is nothing short of a witchcraft!

Pele you hear.

At this point I believe it is a self truth that those witnessing these pages of counter arguments will not be wrong to conclude as Yorubas have done, Ekaladheran is a HOAX!



Now, we are not done.
Our purpose on ekaladheran is realized.....but our purpose on Edo is not.

Yoruba won the war and chased fulani completely out of Yorubaland and across the river to Nupeland....but failed to chase them far into the hinterland and make theirbrwturn into Ilorin unthinkable. So we did not hold the gains. Fulani crept back into Ilorin and setup clerics....who became Imams and ultimately Emir.


The next task for us is to attack Edo itself. We must bring you to your rightful position as a subperior race of people to Yoruba. We will do it on this thread.

We are not going anywhere. This faceoff will wrap up when we say so...when we are satisfied that you are thoroughly exposed for who you are not. We kept quiet too long for you. Your day is here.

Keep attacking Edo.. However your attacks have no substance or truth, at best its a mockery of history and venting of frustration at your pre-colonial rulers. Do not forget that Edo ruled Yoruba, your ancestors for 500 years.. 500 years!!
I am soo proud of my ancestors who achieved this feat.. No wonder there is a bond between Edos and Yorubas.. Edo is forever tattooed on Yoruba skin..

Obalufon:
you people are myopic as your thought..i sent a picture of saraki paying obeisance to oni risa..the picture you base your argument or claim on was taken in motion oni was only praying him or exchanging pleasantry not bowing ..our oni is very humble man

A picture of Saraki paying homage doesn't change anything.. at best its just damage control.. Your Oni (a slave descendant) already made a fool of himself.. but however what else will a slave know rather than to always bow because submission is synonymous with slaves.. Its in his DNA to bow.. Your cannot take the slave from him..

You guys have friends from both cultures.

I am ending this thread thesame way it was started

Peace

If you study Benin, there was Might, and there was Weakness

Same with Yoruba

Because humans are both strong and weak

Even the British were once a barbarian peoples when compared with the Romans

It is the future that matters

davidnazee:
A picture of Saraki paying homage doesn't change anything.. at best its just damage control.. Your Oni (a slave descendant) already made a fool of himself.. but however what else will a slave know rather than to always bow because submission is synonymous with slaves.. Its in his DNA to bow.. Your cannot take the slave from him..

We have tried to denigrate each other for weeks

I am tired of the online tirade..

I did allow my emotions to get the better of me

Call it weakness man, but I call it reality

I have Edo people that are my brothers in real life so I will not continue to insult you david

Peace

OBA EWAURE'S OFFICIAL SPEECH AT THAT SHITT HOLE IFE


In his speech at Ooni’s palace, Oba Ewuare had this to say, “We are indeed appreciative of all the commendations and the remarks you said, moreso the support and working together so that our kingdoms will get closer and closer.

“I want to say it gives me great pleasure to visit His Majesty today in countinuation of my nationwide thank you call to traditional rulers, and other eminent personalities that graced my coronation on October 20, 2016, which by the divine grace of God is also my birthday. This visit has long been planned but due traditional and other palace engagements in Benin, it is coming at this time. My post-coronation thank-you tour commenced with a visit last year to President Buhari and the Sultan of Sokoto. I thank God for making this visit possible.

“This visit is to appreciate Your Majesty for the honour done to me and the entire people of Benin with your personal presence at my coronation. This visit should provide us the opportunity to re-awaken the cordial relationship between our two kingdoms which seemed to have unfortunately hitherto cooled off since my father’s visit to Ile Ife in the reign of Oba Sijuade, for reasons I am not too sure of. It is my prayer that this visit of mine will restart the cordial relationship which, because of the historical affinity, should exist between our two kingdoms. We should explore and tap into what unites us rather than what divides us, for the advancement of our cultural heritage and socio-economic development.

“It is gratifying to note that you and I have already been in regular communication even before this visit. We must increase visits to each other because such will augur well for the desirable close relationship between our two kingdoms.”

He used the occasion to highlight “three major issues of national concern. They are the persistent herdsmen/farmers clashes, human trafficking, and the socio-economic under-development of the country.” He said there was a “dire need to improve on the security architecture of the country” mentioning porous borders as part of the issue. While commending President Buhari on tackling the issue of insurgency in the Northeast, I want to on behalf of all traditional rulers in Edo State, join al traditional rulers in Nigeria, appeal to the President to as a matter of urgency intervene in these other threats to the unity of our country.”

Having introduced members of the royal family on his entourage that included his bother Prince Aghatise Erediuawa who is Executive Director of NDIC, Princes Ehiose and Omoregbe Erediuawa and his daughter, Princess Osayuwamen Ewuare,Oba Ewuare II also personally introduced one Chief Oliha.

He said, “Those of you that know the history know that the then Oliha came to Ife to ask that Oranmiyan be brought to Benin. There are details in history books. I am cutting out the details. It’s all in the history books and you can research that. He (the then Oliha) was the one that successfully won the right to escort Oranmiyan to Benin to become the first oba of Benin.”

He mentioned the creation of a foundation called the Oba Ewuare II Foundation to help tackle the menace of human trafficking, noting that the issue was not peculiar to Edo State alone. He said Oba Ewuare II Foundation would work with the House of Oduduwa Foundation in Ife for the betterment of the people.[/b]
http://www.tribuneonlineng.com/amp/when-oba-of-benin-visited-ooni-of-ife/

Moorish:
We have tried to denigrate each other for weeks

I am tired of the online tirade..

I did allow my emotions to get the better of me

Call it weakness man, but I call it reality

I have Edo people that are my brothers in real life so I will not continue to insult you david

Peace

You have not heard one word of denigration from my post. In fact when they throw a dart I dodge it and i respond back with facts. Example.....Ogiso Owodo for a fact is a dimwit.

There are many ways to win an argument. Use of saucy and denigrating words is not one of them.

BabaRamota1980:
You have not heard one word of denigration from my post. In fact when they throw a dart I dodge it and i respond back with facts. Example.....Ogiso Owodo for a fact is a dimwit.

There are many ways to win an argument. Use of saucy and denigrating words is not one of them.

Yea

At the end of the day people come on social media and say things they cannot in real life

Makes you feel like a big man cos you can say stuff online

I do regret being dragged into the dog fight

I would say though that I am pleased to meet Nigerian historians

It is an encouragement

Moneywomen17:
I will use thesame document my guy. According to the document he posted Benin attack this five Yoruba kingdom Akure, emure ogotun, ise and ikere and the try going further by the late 16th and early 17 century so I will leave it at 1590. The Benin village was defeated by Ewu kingdom. End of story and could not advanced further. By the early 18th century Benin was weak and all the few eastern Yoruba kingdom in ondo and ekiti like Akure and owo were completely free of Benin and they were already killing the edo people in their town. So Benin could only attack and win successfully against this town from 1590 to early 1700 where all of them were already free from benin accords to the document so 110 years at most. In the 19th century which is the 1800 when ur Benin boys try to take the town once more owo easily defeat the Benin army and when they try to attack Otun they could not defeat and end up joining them in fighting their own local war. All ur warrior that lead the war like ezomo all died and their follower cowardly put down their weapon and settle in the village. When Ibadan came to conquer the town that we’re kicking Benin ass there was no Benin anywhere to be found. And according to the document also ogedengbe lead forces of ekiti and ijesha warrior came for blood and conquer back Some town in Benin kingdom and use Benin people for suya before ur king had to beg them. So if we are going by this document benin attack and conquer like 5 or 6 town in ekiti and ondo together but for 110 years at most and they chase Benin packing not so long and they did not stop there they want to Benin kingdom and conquer back some town themselves. I kinda think it’s a win for the few town in ekiti that was attack and it proves my point that Benin was nothing more than a small kingdom that was severely beaten several times.

Lol.. first of all, non of your mumu yoruba brothers even liked or shared your rants because they know its foolish..
Benin Kingdom conquered everywhere in Eastern Yoruba.. according to your Yoruba scholar Akintoye, he stated that Bradbury who visited the area after Bossman said Benin Conquered and ruled everywhere.. But Akintoye based his self serving analysis on Bossman who came to the area before Bradbury came.. In real life any judgement is always based on "recent findings" and Bradbury findings was more recent.

Also Akintoye saying the Benin Armies who went to quell the Yoruba riots met stiff resistance and decided to "stay behind" and join the locals in their "local war"... I no fit laugh ooo..
That statement from Akintoye is a convenient way of lying and hiding the truth.. The truth is that the armies was highly successful and they were mandated to remain in the area to make sure no more riots happened again, and also to protect Edo citizens and Edo interests in the region.. I have been shouting all along that it was the Benin Armies that actually fought the Ekiti Kparakpo wars.. This statement by Akintoye just proved me right.
Our Armies that stayed behind and fought your local wars was the Benin Armies fighting to protect Edos hold on Eastern Yoruba.. Ibadan's aim in the war was to rescue its Yoruba brothers from the over 500yrs subjugation by the mighty Benin Empire..

No matter how hard you yorubas try to distort history the truth and fact will remain very glaring for all to see.. Even Akintoye could have denied Benin ever beheaded the Deji but because the beheading was done publicly he could not..

KingSango:
I am Afrikan. You lose.

"Afrikans" are the whites in South Africa.. Blacks are called "Africans"..
You are the one that is lost.

BabaRamota1980:
Eehnnn...looto?
You say Ooni is below Alaafin, then you say Ooni is nobody.....you continously disrespect who you claim is your son. Abi?

Edo and witchcraft eehn...

I wouldnt be surprised. Didnt your dimwit Ogiso disrespected his heir?


Your ogiso brother told you in previous page not to be gullible. Thats his polite way to say you are gullible.

You responded and told him you were not gullible. Then you turned around fired more evidences of gullibility by posting newspaper article of back and forth between Ooni and Alaafin.

Your article puts Omo N'Oba visits in jeopardy.

Why are your Kings visiting a lesser authority? If indeed Alaafin is superior as you proposed, what are your Kings going to Ife to visit Ooni for?

Please clarify....and after your clarification take a breath and chill for some minutes so you wont show more gullibility and upset your fellow ekaladherans.


You havent seen anything yet I have all kinds of traps ahead for you, and i promise you lack the intellect to dodge them. I will use you as my channel to expose the emptiness of Edo.

My friend your pain is understood.. Keep venting it out.. But please how does it feel knowing that your ancestors where ruled for 500yrs by the Edo people? I will like to know how it feels because I don;t know that feeling..
Chai!! 500yrs.. and like Kanye West said, I think it was a choice by the Yorubas to be ruled for 500yrs, I guess thats why they easily accepted Ekhaladeran to take up the Ife throne..

BabaRamota1980:
You have not heard one word of denigration from my post. In fact when they throw a dart I dodge it and i respond back with facts. Example.....Ogiso Owodo for a fact is a dimwit.

There are many ways to win an argument. Use of saucy and denigrating words is not one of them.

And Fact: Yorubas were ruled for 500yrs by the Edo people.
another fact: Your Ooni is a slave descendants..

My facts have been researched and found to be truth, but your fact about Ogiso is just a ranting of a pained and frustrated man and everyone knows why u feel that way and we actually feel sorry for u... but at the same time we are proud our ancestors saved us from that feeling by being the conquerors and making your ancestors the conquered..
So babaramota my advice to you is to keep on venting, let the anger out.. when all the anger and frustration is out you will accept your fate and be at peace with yourself.

davidnazee:
My friend your pain is understood.. Keep venting it out.. But please how does it feel knowing that your ancestors where ruled for 500yrs by the Edo people? I will like to know how it feels because I don;t know that feeling..
Chai!! 500yrs.. and like Kanye West said, I think it was a choice by the Yorubas to be ruled for 500yrs, I guess thats why they easily accepted Ekhaladeran to take up the Ife throne..

David, would you really feel good knowing you enslaved the men and women of another culture?

You truly wouldn't feel good at that, don't lie

I think you are just a man who has a deep love and reverence for his Edo ancestors and you would not tolerate anyone denigrating your heritage

We in the Yoruba camp are thesame.. so there will be no end to the supremacy tussle

I, though I am out of this online d.ick measurement

Peace to you and yours

davidnazee:
"Afrikans" are the whites in South Africa.. Blacks are called "Africans"..
You are the one that is lost.

Do you really think I'm a White South African?

BabaRamota1980:
Olu and moneywomen,

Are KingSango's contributions helping this discussion with Edo?

"Oosha"

Save those who worthy to be saved, who love life and respect life.

Ase

Love Sango

Moorish:
I do want the trajectory of this thread to change for the better

Are we going to argue back and forth forever?

I am sure the Edo peeps here have some respect toward Yoruba Heritage

and I am sure the Yorubas same

While I cannot disagree with what you've said here, it's imperative to understand that this thread was originally started to deride the Edos.

The yorubas were obviously harboring some sinister motives when they immediatelye after this post was made began peddling outright falsehood about the purpose of the Oba's visit to the Ooni. Both parties spoke and acknowledged that the visit was purely on a courtesy basis meant to entrench greater love and cooperation between the two groups, but to the surprise of many, the Yoruba were everywhere including Herr claiming the Oba went to complete his coronation-thats an insult and such insult cannot be left to just cool off at least for posterity's sake. Meanwhile it was repeatedly pointed out to the yorubas that the Oba had a tradition of visiting fellow monarchs of his stature after ascending the throne and in this case, Oba Ewuare actually began by visiting the president, then the Sultan, some other smaller monarchs and then the ooni. But strangely, only the visit to the ooni elicited unnnecessary commentary. This is purely mischief. Edos ordinarily don't tell Yoruba story or that of other groups, we believe everyone should tell their story however they please, but when these incursions by yorubas into Edo history is becoming a hobby for them, then, the records must be set straight, no matter what and at any cost.

steveosaz:
While I cannot disagree with what you've said here, it's imperative to understand that this thread was originally started to deride the Edos.

The yorubas were obviously harboring some sinister motives when they immediatelye after this post was made began peddling outright falsehood about the purpose of the Oba's visit to the Ooni. Both parties spoke and acknowledged that the visit was purely on a courtesy basis meant to entrench greater love and cooperation between the two groups, but to the surprise of many, the Yoruba were everywhere including Herr claiming the Oba went to complete his coronation-thats an insult and such insult cannot be left to just cool off at least for posterity's sake. Meanwhile it was repeatedly pointed out to the yorubas that the Oba had a tradition of visiting fellow monarchs of his stature after ascending the throne and in this case, Oba Ewuare actually began by visiting the president, then the Sultan, some other smaller monarchs and then the ooni. But strangely, only the visit to the ooni elicited unnnecessary commentary. This is purely mischief. Edos ordinarily don't tell Yoruba story or that of other groups, we believe everyone should tell their story however they please, but when these incursions by yorubas into Edo hisyis becoming a hobby for them, then, the records must be set straight, no matter what and at any cost.

I appreciate that you took the time to reason with me.

I had said some silly things to you in the past.

I take them all back.

I wish you nothing but peace and goodwill in your future sojourns.

I also apologize to all people of Edo descent. I made some unguided statements on this thread.

I have great admiration for what the Benin Kingdom accomplished.

Moorish:
David, would you really feel good knowing you enslaved the men and women of another culture?

You truly wouldn't feel good at that, don't lie

I think you are just a man who has a deep love and reverence for his Edo ancestors and you would not tolerate anyone denigrating your heritage

We in the Yoruba camp are thesame.. so there will be no end to the supremacy tussle

I, though I am out of this online d.ick measurement

Peace to you and yours

I don't feel good about anybody or race being enslaved.. Its you Yorubas that dragged the Edos into this fight and like the warriors that we are, we are obligated to defend our honour and heritage..
If you started following this thread you will see that the Yorubas twisted an ordinary thank you visit by my our Great Oba to mean HE was paying homage.. Do you expect us to sit back and take that insult and lie?? We were not born that way.
So I am just reminding the Yorubas their place in history and that this Edo they are trying to trash was once their rulers, but all that is in the past..

BabaRamota1980:
You have not heard one word of denigration from my post. In fact when they throw a dart I dodge it and i respond back with facts. Example.....Ogiso Owodo for a fact is a dimwit.

There are many ways to win an argument. Use of saucy and denigrating words is not one of them.

Lol....
Here is a man who lives in an alternate reality. So in your dictionary, dimwit is a word used in adulation abi?

You should cease writing in English and completely write whatever you want to in Yoruba.

In the few years of his reign to date, Ooni Adeyeye has endeavoured to touch lives, physically and materially. He has been a household name in terms of promoting our cultural values as well as being a frontier for unity and peace, at the national and international levels.
At this year’s Olokun Festival, HIM got a collaboration in the area of peacekeeping across the divide and this is no other person than his brother king, a descendant of the Oduduwa kingdom and a foremost custodian of African culture, the Oba of Benin, Omo N’oba Akpolokpolo Ewuare II. The Oba was hosted by HIM on the first day of the Olokun celebration, April 28, 2018, at an elaborate reception at the Royal Court, Enuwa, Ile-Ife.

The visit showcased a display of the cultures of both the Benin and Yoruba people; the performance of the Benin cultural group and the Ooni’s palace troupe, among others, was not only beautiful but the similarity in cultures was highlighted. The kings’ guards, music and the waist-twisting on the dance floor were actually “things to write home about.”

I must recall that the last time such a visit happened between both kingdoms was some 39 years ago. The last visit, which occurred in 1979 at the Royal Court, was by the Oba of Benin, Omo n’oba ni Edo Erediauwa, to see the Ooni Adesoji Aderemi, on his ascension to the throne of Benin. The following year, Ooni Aderemi joined his precursors. It is, however, noteworthy that, Baba was delighted with Omo n’oba to the extent that he swapped his revered black leather seat with Erediauwa. Ooni Aderemi was blessed to have witnessed three reigns of Obas of Benin before he passed. May our kings be blessed with long life in the land of the living (amen).
The crust on the visit this time was the visit to the ‘Orun Oba Ado’ and the symbolic gift presented to the Ewuare. Need I tell you to seat tight, fasten your seat belt as I take you through the significance of the coatings.

Both selfless monarchs decided to visit the place named “Orun Oba Ado” meaning, “the resting place of Edo kings.” Tradition has it that when the Oba of Benin passed, his head was sent from the Edo kingdom to the Orun Oba Ado in Aku (Ile-Ife) for burial while a bronze-head replica was sent from Ile-If to Edo where the rest of the body would be buried. This goes to show the existence of a very close relationship between the Aku and Edo, I suppose. On the same note, Feyistan Opeyemi in a publication made on March 25, 2012, stated that the reason may not be far from the belief that Aku and Ado are siblings and represent the Biblical Esau and Jacob. Reference was made to the book of Jasher 56:48 – 57:5. The major factor is that strong ties exist between Benin Kingdom and Ile-Ife as a descent of Oduduwa. Therefore, the monarchs were thoughtful to pay a visit to this site where they prayed to their ancestors, asking God for unity and peace within their kingdoms and Nigeria at large.

The choice of gift for the Oba of Benin was cardinal and a thoughtful move by HIM as he presented a gift, which transcends the physical. It is symbolic; it illustrates the bond between the two kingdoms, their vocation as professional hunter, and the link of brotherhood to Oranmiyan and further to Oduduwa.

To mark this historic visit, the two powerful brother-king and their entourage were hosted to a reception by the Osun State Governor, His Excellency, Ogbeni Rauf Aregbesola at the government house in Osogbo, Osun State.

The take-home of the visit according to H.I.M Ooni Adeyeye Enitan Babatunde Ogunwusi and the Omo N’oba Akpolokpolo Ewuare II is that, both kings have the intention to foster unity and better understanding of the kingdoms. They also admonished the Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces, President Mohammed Buhari to ensure coexistence among Nigerians by resolving issues that impact the security of the country.

The Olokun festival which was rounded up on 29 April 2018 witnessed a good number of people from within and outside Nigeria in attendance. The Olokun festival is an annual cultural festival in Nigeria, it is celebrated throughout Yoruba land and the Edo. The word Okun means sea while Olokun means the owner of the sea; the owner who is deemed the goddess of the sea. It is believed that the Olokun has the power to give children to barren women. She is also believed to be in control of ocean waves and could capsize sea vessels of evildoers at will. Olokun is also the goddess of riches and she has the power to bestow wealth to her devotees. The worshippers of Olokun are generally dressed in immaculate white attires with their faces paintedted with white chalk.

The Edo people celebrate Olokun in late February that is; 1st moon after the 12th moon. This takes place in Usonigbe, the site of Olokun’s shrine, in Edo State while the Chief Olokun shrine is located in the Ilode quarter of Ile-Ife, Osun State.

KingSango:
Do you really think I'm a White South African?

I don't know who you are or care that much.. Just correcting your phrase "Afrikans".. I thought you understood the purpose of my statement..

Olu317:
You have no knowledge of what you think you know but knoweth not. Read carefully and dont get yourself into trouble bro. In as much as you mention Odua, Oranmiiyan , Sango etc , I HAVE RIGHT ON IT OVER YOU. Before, you can match me, you've to be a lineage of Oranmiyan else keep from what's greater ,that can consume you. I don't need to worship Sango because I am the son of my ancestors but who are you?

If you don't know what integrity stand for,then I will let you have a taste f it. No man will use negative words on my ancestors and will not taste a bitter pill on it . If any Edo do so, I will hit them hard because, I am called to let them know the truth, either they like it or not. after all, we give dates and sources of information we give information From historical account.
Just imagine,how you ignorantly you claimed you could draw lightning ,and create disaster ? Create disaster over who or where? You make me laugh.

What concern me if anyone is Ogboni or not? It is a bloody choice . Have you no knowledge of ancient Yoruba kingdoms and Empire ? If you dont let me explain to you that it was a taboo and still a taboo to prcatice homosexuality in Yoruba land . In fact,it was and still seen as a evil disease in yoruba herbology world . The group of people who dint marry in ancient Yorubas world were eunuch that serves the kings, concreted priests, etc . You need to study to know the difference. If you love to join any of the Ogboni,then, ask for help from members, who can be of a guide to you. Kindly dont ask me . Furthermore, if you are a lover of Yoruba and an initiate ,doesn't mean you are not a stranger. Being an adopted son is different from blood lineage because the trait and spiritual gift divinely given to is different from yours, so do get it.

Freemanson,can do whatever they chose to do and let God /Eledumare judge everyone for his her act after life.

Just imagine you claiming Egun brought IFA? Egun that understand Yoruba .Bloody clown...

My lineage is Ifa that is by heritage. Your lineage is Oranmiyan that is by heritage. I never claimed to be Yoruba that is a modern term. I just prefer to say I am Afrikan. I am open to share with Oyo, Ife, Benin, Edo, Hausa, Fulani, Dahomey, and any Afrikan ethnic group that is working to better the world for the race known as the, "Black Race. Yet I follow, "Oosha", to save those only worthy to be saved, who love life and respect life.

Sango is King of Kings, that's that. Yet Obatala and Oduduwa are higher than Sango and so is Ifa. Alot is owed to the royal family of Oyo who contributed a huge milestone in Yoruba history. I argue to preserve the legacy of Alaafin Sango and respect for the spirit of Sango, the cult of kingship. Sango doesn't bow to no one yet if Yorubas bowed to Sango would that be an issue? The higher you raise your king the higher you are raised. You love the Ooni? Long live the Ooni of Ile Ife. You love Oranmiyan, his mighty staff will never fall.

I wasn't speaking of the original Ogboni only Ogboni Confaternity which is connected to Freemasonry. Ogboni is the traditional society which the Alaafin of Oyo and Sango Kuso are high chiefs. Again, my loyalty is to Sango. Maybe you misunderstand me. The Alaafin is the Living Sango.

I know homosexuality is taboo in Yorubaland. Yet the times we live in the culture has died and European values via Freemasonry have crept into land. And it's everywhere in America all because of Freemasons are sodomites. I don't know if Afrikan Freemasons are into the same insane practices. Because I would have never thought Black people were into this yet it appears the Afrikan Freemasons in America are deeply into ritual sodomy.

Think of what you want about calling upon the Orishas to cause disaster. As I've said about magick, mixing herbs to cause lightning can be done in alot of magical traditions around the world. Affecting weather is one of the easiest forms of magick. Directing it towards enemies towns and cities is much harder. Sango achieved it though. There was a mage apart of Great Britain that cause the Spanish Armada about to invade Britain to sink in a storm he conjured. There is an occult war against Afrikans and I am surprised to that some of you may believe sincerely that other races don't have great magick. Never underestimate in war.

That's all I have to contribute to the matter.

Ase

Love Sango

steveosaz:
Lol....
Here is a man who lives in an alternate reality. So in your dictionary, dimwit is a word used in adulation abi?

You should cease writing in English and completely write whatever you want to in Yoruba.

Owodo is a dimwit, there is no other way to qualify a man who believes killing his only son and heir to throne will open wombs so queens can begin getting pregnant and birthing children.

Ekaladheran, will you do that?

steveosaz:
Lol....
Here is a man who lives in an alternate reality. So in your dictionary, dimwit is a word used in adulation abi?

You should cease writing in English and completely write whatever you want to in Yoruba.

hahahaha.. I just had to laugh at this.. babaramota Steve don finish u lol..

davidnazee:
I don't feel good about anybody or race being enslaved.. Its you Yorubas that dragged the Edos into this fight and like the warriors that we are, we are obligated to defend our honour and heritage..
If you started following this thread you will see that the Yorubas twisted an ordinary thank you visit by my our Great Oba to mean HE was paying homage.. Do you expect us to sit back and take that insult and lie?? We were not born that way.
So I am just reminding the Yorubas their place in history and that this Edo they are trying to trash was once their rulers, but all that is in the past..

In real life I have Edo friends.

In real life you have Yoruba friends.

Let us move on brother..

All of us here from both sides of the tussle, have something in common

We, unlike the majority of our countrymen, have knowledge of history and national pride

All these things you know about history, where you self taught?

davidnazee:
I don't know who you are or care that much.. Just correcting your phrase "Afrikans".. I thought you understood the purpose of my statement..

Hmm...I understand.

davidnazee:
And Fact: Yorubas were ruled for 500yrs by the Edo people.
another fact: Your Ooni is a slave descendants..

My facts have been researched and found to be truth, but your fact about Ogiso is just a ranting of a pained and frustrated man and everyone knows why u feel that way and we actually feel sorry for u... but at the same time we are proud our ancestors saved us from that feeling by being the conquerors and making your ancestors the conquered..
So babaramota my advice to you is to keep on venting, let the anger out.. when all the anger and frustration is out you will accept your fate and be at peace with yourself.

Ok, you don start again ...you dey run mouth and filling up pages with 500yrs lies. If I begin probe into that now you will again start stammering.

No problem...kwantinue...I dey come review what that 500yr is about when i get to it.

steveosaz:
Ekaladerhan's place in Edo history is very clear, it's lost souls like yourselves that are developing high BP over a non issue. I repeat, if you know Oduduwa's grave site, then, you've found Ekaladerhan's.

But you must tell us where ooni is from. This is a classical case of house boy becoming king and that's why slavery and slavishness is a major defining character of the Yoruba's because you people are ruled by slaves. Ooni was never a son of Oduduwa like Alaafin, but was only his slave who took up title upon the death of that poor old man who himself is also a stranger in ife.

>: Yet, Oba Ewuare II accepted and admitted that Ooni is sitting on throne of their forefather ; Oranmiyan. Continue in your ignorance.

Olu317:
>: Yet, Oba Ewuare II accepted and admitted that Ooni is sitting on throne of their forefather ; Oranmiyan. Continue in your ignorance.

How did he admit?
I know u are stupid but are u dat stupid ?

Moorish:
We have tried to denigrate each other for weeks

I am tired of the online tirade..

I did allow my emotions to get the better of me

Call it weakness man, but I call it reality

I have Edo people that are my brothers in real life so I will not continue to insult you david

Peace

is your mom related to Edo?

AxxeMan:
How did he admit?
I know u are stupid but are u dat stupid ?

Your Father is stupid

AxxeMan:
How did he admit?
I know u are stupid but are u dat stupid ?

Your father is stupid

Olu317:
is your mom related to Edo?

No.

They are not blood brothers, but I love them all thesame.

I grew up in the former Bendel Region. I was born there too.